/ctg/ Coffee Time General

[Anonymous No.20250816]

Thread for discussing coffee and coffee-related topics

Obesity edition.

If you're new or confused, start here: https://pastebin.com/UEzwuyLz
If you're old and confused, had any physical activity lately?

Previous thread: >>20227328

[Anonymous No.20250840]

>>20250816
its nice you dedicated a thread to your mother.

[Anonymous No.20250865]

The retards have finally discovered slow feed. If only someone let Morgan know years ago :(

[Anonymous No.20250867]

>>20250865
does he have to jerk the portafilter?
wdt is going to mix it up anyway

[Anonymous No.20250904]

>>20250840
Mom doesn't drink coffee

[Anonymous No.20250911]

>>20250816
Double espresso shot is kino pre-workout stim.

[Anonymous No.20251011]

Blacker than a moonless night, hotter and more bitter than Hell itself... that is coffee.

[Anonymous No.20251032]

>>20251011
>blacker than lunchtime rowdies

[Anonymous No.20251076]

>>20250865
This is the gayest shit I have ever seen
I looked it up and this thing costs 4k

[Anonymous No.20251127]

>Drink 500ml of green tea
:)
>Drink 500ml of iced black tea
:)
>Down a few caffeine pills
:)
>Drink a cup of coffee
Stomach pain...

WHY? I just want to drink my fucking coffee? Why does it hurt my stomach more than green tea or caffeine pills?
It's not the caffeine here

[Anonymous No.20251300]

>>20251127
Use the thickest paper filters you can find, see if that helps.

[Anonymous No.20251346]

>>20251127
Are you a tranny? You seem like a tranny...

[Anonymous No.20251414]

>>20250865
Now that's just some retarded shit.

[Anonymous No.20251464]

>>20251076
i've been told you pay extra for the engineered slop and that is in fact on purpose and desirable

[Anonymous No.20251466]

For me, personally, it's the 4:6 method

[Anonymous No.20251495]

Been looking at used machines, anyone here got experience on refurbing the old model gaggia classic machines?
I've seen them as low as 150 bucks for non refurbished ones and as high as 300 from people who took good care of them.
Am I fucking myself as a not experienced rookie by getting one that may need deep cleaning?

[Anonymous No.20251513]

>>20251495
It's gonna be some work, but gaggia classic machines have a very active and developed diy community. If you're willing to bother with it you can definitely fix them up.

[Anonymous No.20251514]

>>20251127
How are you making your coffee?
French press coffee does this to me but pourover, mokka, espresso, all of those are fine

[Anonymous No.20251572]

hmmm
4am coff?

[Anonymous No.20251574]

>>20251572
No. Get some hot choco instead.

[Anonymous No.20251580]

>>20251513
Noted.
I'm looking up tutorials and there are a lot of nice seeming older men telling me how to, seems doable.
Thanks anon :)
Have you tried that machine yourself, by chance? If so, how'd you like it?

[Anonymous No.20251581]

>>20251574
Ame ame ame ame
san se uu
onai le
kaminari
kedi kedi da

mmm
no
coffee first
cortado probably
i have some Ecuadorian chocolate powder
its some pretty intense shit
almost gives the same kind of head high as coffee

[Anonymous No.20251583]

>>20251580
I considered it and looked into it but ultimately I went with a sage bambino because at the time I had too much going on to bring myself to also fix up a gaggia. If I was buying it today I'd probably get a used gaggia.

[Anonymous No.20251625]

>>20251464
It's called a floating carrier. They're very common.

[Anonymous No.20251690]

>>20250816
KINOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=clUt7XN8PVU
new hoffee is up!

[Anonymous No.20251695]

>>20251690
oh and all the movement skills are useless

[Anonymous No.20251708]

>>20251690
Hoff should stick to informational content and not reaction slop

[Anonymous No.20251711]

i have little hands-on experiencce with espresso, and while i really enjoy my moka pot, i wonder
would you guys reccommend preheating the cup before pouring the moka? i picked it up for pourovers but i just realized that it might not have the same benefit, here, as i sip my cup and the sharpness fades as it cools

[Anonymous No.20251784]

>>20251711
dont see how it would hurt
worth a try i guess
depends
are you using glass or ceramic

[Anonymous No.20251791]

>>20251784
ceramic
i was just wondering if preheating one's cup is a common practice for espresso, really
among those who drink it straight, anyway
that is, for the flavor

[Anonymous No.20251829]

>>20251791
>i was just wondering if preheating one's cup is a common practice for espresso
anon?
why do you think they keep espresso cups on top of the espresso machine?
its literally a cup warmer

[Anonymous No.20251882]

>>20251829
i dont know
i mean, i do now
i mentioned i dont have much hands-on experience with espresso

[Anonymous No.20251957]

>>20251882
:)

[Anonymous No.20252045]

i got a new gaggia classic with a vst filter in a bottomless pf, using a 1zpresso j-max to grind machine is unmodified. i wdt before tamping. but the goff that comes out is making a mess, it goes everywhere except into the cup, although the puck looks fine. any ideas where i'm fucking up? i wonder if its the shower screens, when i draw water without a portafilter in the water comes out more on the left side

[Anonymous No.20252150]

>>20252045
>any ideas where i'm fucking up?
Factory opv is set too high.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=txWyLHnuuz0

[Anonymous No.20252162]

I think I'm gonna go with cheaper beans and go all-in on milk drinks for the next month or so.
I'm finally decent at steaming milk, still can't do latte art tho

[Anonymous No.20252189]

Chicory anon here.

I tried boiling it 4 minutes in a milk pitcher and it turned out better than with the moka, but it's still watery and kind of weak, it's like long coffee filtered with paper in the aeropress.

I'm sad bros, 14 years drinking coffee like a champ and as soon I started getting serious into this hobby with good equipment too I now have to sell my brand new items. Fuck this gay earth.

>drink tea

Nope, I need something dense and thick as coffee...there aren't substitutes.

[Anonymous No.20252242]

>>20252150
yeah been thinking about modding the pressure, but i'm not sure if my problems come from this or the uneven water flow

[Anonymous No.20252256]

>>20252242
what's the problem? just buy a bag of citric acid powder and a new shower screen if you're that worried about. you should swap that out at least once a year anyway (3 or 6 mo if you make more than one cup a day). honestly though it sounds more like inconsistent grind. get an actual grinder.

[Anonymous No.20252285]

>>20252189
>Chicory anon
The irony that your old nickname does not suit you anymore.

In case you don't have celiacs, you can brew Caffè d'orzo with your stainless steel moka pot.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MjcQXZVZnQM

Acorn coffee is also something you can explore.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yDpnRUPg4iE

You can also brew RedEspresso with your manual espresso maker which is finely ground Rooibos.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DC651t4rZmo

Not sure if those three are compatible with your condition. Report back.

Godspeed detetitian anon.

[Anonymous No.20252309]

>>20252242
If the water flow was uneven, you'd notice it in the puck. They set the pressure high because tastelets desire thick crema. There's a reason it comes with a spouted pf. Keeps people from realizing how their shots are actually flowing.
https://www.amazon.com/Distro-Coffee-Labs-Modification-Espresso/dp/B0BQTL8T5M?th=1

[Anonymous No.20252327]

>>20252189
its not coffee but i really like cascara and reccommend you try it

[Anonymous No.20252369]

>>20252285
>>20252327
I'm sorry but it's over for me, I'll just keep the moka pot and sell everything hoping not to lose a lot of money...my fucking espresso machine have been used 3 weeks only...

[Anonymous No.20252377]

>>20252369
i assume youve looked into low acid options?
lots of roasters try to cater to people with your exact issue

[Anonymous No.20252379]

>>20252256
>what's the problem?
well that's what i'm asking. i clean the shower screen with caffiza every other week, so the issue would be that the stock one is shit and not dirt.
>get an actual grinder
the good ones start at 1k and everything below that is unusable, yeah?
>>20252309
puck looks fine most of the times. i'll stop being lazy and change the pressure then

[Anonymous No.20252392]

>>20252285
LOL fuck please tell me tardbatti can't drink coffee anymore. I might start going to church.
>>20252379
Your grinder is fine.

[Anonymous No.20252413]

>>20252392
>rent free
he really buckbroke you huh?

[Anonymous No.20252416]

>>20251791
You can and should balance the mug upside down on ur moka pot I do it

[Anonymous No.20252419]

>>20252416
thats ok, ill just warm it with hot water

[Anonymous No.20252426]

>>20252377
Blood type 0 is incompatible with coffee, it fucks me badly and it's not related to the acidity.

I've been drinking coffee 3 times a day until 2 months ago for years without a single problem, all it took was to change the diet to reveal sudden intolerances because I stopped eating gluten, milk/cheese and all the foods that weren't suited for my immune system.

Having a much quicker digestion, coffee increases the acid production in my stomach, which produces a lot of acids even without (my group is prone to ulcers and other issues), so if I drink even 1 small cup from my moka pot it hurts my stomach and makes me nervous, even the decaf, and I've never experienced something like this before.

>>20252392
Aren't you happy anon?

In the end, it appears that you have won and I'll stop posting here.

[Anonymous No.20252473]

>>20252426
Has your condition improved under your new diet? How's your skin?

[Anonymous No.20252492]

>>20252426
Today was a good day. I'll go get a real nice dose out of the freezer. Not that I believe you in the slightest.

[Anonymous No.20252514]

>>20252473
It's too early to tell, since I started the diet I've lost 4 kg (I'm 64 kg now) because my body is burning all the fats accumulated by eating carbs and gluten rich foods (I ate a lot of bread and pasta because it's our culture here) despite not being fat at all in the first place...however I'm also eating more than before, 3-4 veggies per day, always fish each day, meat 4 times a week, eggs, etc..

My skin looks better but it's still dry, the eyes are a rollercoaster, sometimes dry and sometimes less dry, anxiety almost disappeared, depression is always there but at least I don't feel tired anymore after eating.

The diet is not even half the job, I now have to do sports and work on my depression, I've been told by many people who followed this diet that result may start to appear after 2-3 months from the beginning and it's expected that in the beginning you can actually feel worse as your body need to detox and re-adapt (the gluten really fucks up your intestine covering in a thin layer of gluten that prevents it from absorbing nutrients and vitamins, hence why the deficiencies and tiredness lack of energy).

Coffee and caffeine wasn't giving me the energy to stay awake, that's the plot twist.

The main challenge now is to identify which foods, even the ones that I can eat in my blood group, I tolerate and which I don't because we are not the same and everyone is different. I also have custom indications for what I can and can't eat for each of my symptoms, it's depressing as fuck.

>>20252492
Unless someone has been impersonating me in the last 2 months, you can stay assured that I never even opened /ctg/ after posting about my new Flair. I simply stopped posting.

[Anonymous No.20252516]

>>20252426
how do i find out my blood type

[Anonymous No.20252520]

>>20252516
Ask your family doctor or take a blood test.
Even pharmacies have quick tests with a needle that punctures your index and instantly tell you the answer.

[Anonymous No.20252545]

>>20252416
but how would you see what you moka is doing if there is a cup on it?

[Anonymous No.20252549]

>>20252514
Did you have your condition pre 2019? Also are you vaxxd and do you consume cannabis?

>>20252492
>the coffee merchant only finds happiness in the suffering of others
Pottery

[Anonymous No.20252551]

>>20252514
Noone has been impersonating you. I figured you finally killed yourself, as previously suggested. This works out just fine. You now realize that on a genetic level there's no reason for you to post here and the last year of autistic fixation has been a waste.

[Anonymous No.20252558]

>>20252545
Glass cup baby

[Anonymous No.20252563]

>>20252549
>Did you have your condition pre 2019?
Yes but it wasn't as bad as now

>Also are you vaxxd?
No

>and do you consume cannabis?
No

I searched for the answer but I coulnd't find anything sadly, so I stopped caring.
My life is shit since I turned 18, even if I was almost healthy back then, so it is what it is.
Better luck in the next life.

>>20252551
It wasn't a waste, I can assure you.

The skills I've learned can still be useful.

Bye.

[Anonymous No.20252651]

>>20252516
Donate blood and they'll tell you.

[Anonymous No.20252969]

>>20252473
>>20252549
>knows intimate medical details about anonymous posters
Is this a dossier?
>the coffee merchant
Kek. Your patient was stalking, shilling, and posting vacation photos of a roaster for a year.

[Anonymous No.20252992]

Goddamn it Mokafrà, at least try pourover coffee through a thick paper filter before completely shutting the door on this!

[Anonymous No.20253762]

>>20252992
no
let him sink

[Anonymous No.20253946]

Guys...my butt
I can't do it, how do you live like this? I started a few days ago and oh my God it's been a show stopper

Legit had accidents requiring clothing changes and a shower twice this week

[Anonymous No.20253952]

>>20253946
bro how much grounds are you using?

[Anonymous No.20253958]

>>20253946
sodomy is a sin

[Anonymous No.20253979]

>>20253952
Like 1.5 tbsp 2-3 times

[Anonymous No.20254029]

just tried the short strand blend from andytown coffee, coarse ground in a french press. really shocked at how tasty it was holy shit! i think they might have improved somehow since i last tried them a year or two ago. im actually amazed at how good it was hot fucking damn

[Anonymous No.20254034]

>>20254029
are the baristas still obese?

[Anonymous No.20254035]

>>20254034
i haven’t been to their cafe in years. i always thought they were mediocre at best compared to all the other coffee in that area but with how good these beans are i’m reconsidering.

[Anonymous No.20254095]

How do I store whole beans once I opened the packaging? Search results say airtight, but what is that valve/ outlet thingy in picrel, should I keep it, or wrap the packaging tight, which covers the outlet?

[Anonymous No.20254109]

>>20253979
>volume measurement
Do you have a weight/mass? If the beans used are particularly dense or roasted one way or another the volume will not be an accurate measure of how much coffee you're putting into your body.

In general though you should probably cut back if you're having bathroom accidents

[Anonymous No.20254114]

>>20254095

[Anonymous No.20254133]

>>20250816
What spices would pair best with Geisha beans for a possible homemade coffee liqueur?

[Anonymous No.20254144]

>>20254133
Pubic hair

[Anonymous No.20254170]

>>20254114
Okay, thanks!

[Anonymous No.20254268]

Latest beans, mono origin american, washed.

>Mexican coffee is known for its spicy aromas, which give it a unique and delicious taste. It is often blended with other coffees from the region to create an exceptional blend that captures the authentic flavors of the country. The spicy aromas blend perfectly with the natural flavors of the coffee to create a tasting experience that takes you on a gustatory journey.

>Coffee trees are grown in the mountainous regions of Mexico, where the climatic conditions and nutrient-rich soils contribute to the quality and taste of the coffees produced. Local coffee growers have developed unique methods to maximize the aromas and flavors of their coffees, giving them a distinct personality.

Tastes like balanced coffee, no notable acidity nor bitterness.
Mouthfeel is nice and thicc with an aftertaste that spans for what is expected from a 100% arabica.
I can see why it's usually blended, alone it's just some ordinary coffee, nothing special.

[Anonymous No.20254278]

If I drink more than 1 cup of coffee in the morning, it makes me nauseous and when I try to brush my teeth, I end up puking like 5 times

[Anonymous No.20254279]

>>20250865
I would smack this fruity faggot at the back of the head with my Louisville slugger

[Anonymous No.20254280]

>>20254268
Why do you only buy from Trottet?

[Anonymous No.20254293]

These guys are too expensive but I have tried a lot of flavors.

[Anonymous No.20254302]

>>20254293
this looks like gimmick bullshit

[Anonymous No.20254377]

>>20251464
But that actually is floating on purpose by design, that's how it's supposed to be

[Anonymous No.20254470]

>no don't add milk you'll neuter the polyphenols
Does drinking black coffee with a fatty meal (e.g. scrambled eggs) also ruin most of the healthiness, or is it only a problem when the drink itself is adulterated?

[Anonymous No.20254509]

>>20254095
if you need to store bulk, freeze it in an air tight container, don't do this if you'll need to re-freeze it
if it's just your daily beans or w/e the bag is honestly fine, you can put them in a more airtight container if you want.
to answer your question, the bag has that vent on it because the beans outgas for a week or two after they've been freshly roasted. if there wasn't a vent, you'd have exploding bags of coffee beans everywhere. they don't let air in though, they're designed to only vent excess escaping gas.

[Anonymous No.20254572]

>>20254278
what kind of coffee do you drink?

[Anonymous No.20254575]

>>20254470
who cares

[Anonymous No.20254577]

>>20251127
oils, nigga

[Anonymous No.20254587]

>>20254278
I drink one/two days old coffee from my moka with no issues. Get real

[Anonymous No.20254704]

>>20254279
the more cumbersome and expensive equipment, the better the shot. if a planetarium employee says so it must be true. that's soyence chud.

[Anonymous No.20254711]

>>20254704
>60g shot
How many g of beans did they put in the grinder?

[Anonymous No.20254715]

>>20254704
this seems not that bad to me. aside from turning the portafilter which I guess they might as well, that's not a terrible workflow, might even add wdt.you only get 2-3 20g shots a day and they're very pleasurable, why would you rush? you probably jerk it for longer

[Anonymous No.20254723]

>>20254711
20 grams you can read it on the scale. a 1:3 isn't that crazy for a very light bean, admittedly I'm a basic bitch who prefers 2.5 but maybe the bean is particular.

[Anonymous No.20254745]

Is there any reason to go for a dual boiler over single boiler with PID if I only many drinks for 2 people at a time? I’m trying to decide between profitec go and maybe a rancillio Silvia pro

[Anonymous No.20254787]

>>20254711
>>20254723
I pull 16.5 to 65 by default.
>>20254715
He's turning the pf to avoid mounding. Normal people would grind into the included Weber shaker but he wants a direct to pf workflow for some reason.

[Anonymous No.20254845]

>>20254509
Thank you for the explanation and the tip! :)

[Anonymous No.20254870]

>>20254280
you thought he did it for free?
these posts account for 1/3 of their annual marketing budget

[Anonymous No.20254873]

>>20254293
thanks for the tier list anon
i will never use it but i appreciate the effort :)

[Anonymous No.20254877]

>>20254470
https://youtu.be/U8CJ_DCeADY?feature=shared&t=565

[Anonymous No.20254886]

>>20254787
>Normal people would grind into the included Weber shaker
also he's wdt-ing in a large dosing funnel just seems like he's avoiding a non-issue.
>>20254715
I meant rdt here oops

[Anonymous No.20254920]

>>20254877
i should drink coffee before eating my eggs?

[Anonymous No.20254945]

>>20254886
Weird shit you have to do when you're using filter specific burrs past chirp I guess. He's doing the slowfeed to avoid clogging and regrinding with the tiny outfall. I might look into getting a set of ultra low fines this year.

[Anonymous No.20254954]

espresso seems ridiculously autistic
for me its pourover and moka

[Anonymous No.20254983]

>>20254945
the slowfeed is because it leads to better grind consistency, it's the hot new espresso reddit hack
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7_U8nwO4cy0 but doing this when you're not bothering with rdt, I don't understand that, maybe the weber deals poorly with rdt? I can't imagine that

[Anonymous No.20254996]

>>20254920
yes the order is coffee, then eggs, then porridge

[Anonymous No.20255002]

>>20254954
it's about as advanced as you make it, pourovers are harder to get consistent great results from, objectively

[Anonymous No.20255011]

>>20254983
>to avoid clogging and regrinding
>because it leads to better grind consistency
Thats what I said anon.
>The retards have finally discovered slow feed

[Anonymous No.20255014]

>>20255011
fair enough, I assumed when you said clogging you meant literal stop on the engine

[Anonymous No.20255021]

>>20254954
>espresso seems ridiculously autistic
it just has a higher capacity for tism

[Anonymous No.20255033]

>>20255002
>pourovers are harder to get consistent great results from
that just makes the autism around espresso seem poorly justified

[Anonymous No.20255050]

>>20255014
>literal stop
Nah but its funny that even with him dropping in a bean or two at a time you do see rpm drop on the eg1 motor at 1500 rpm. Doesn't happen on my wug at 400rpm, but I do have a very different style of burrs. Grinders are weird. Pic rel.

[Anonymous No.20255080]

>>20255033
I do all the things and it adds maybe a minute or two to my shots. If you're just dumping dark roast shots into milk none of it really matters. This is all about optimizing taste and extraction for very light roast, straight espresso. It sucks wasting expensive shit to pull a bad shot, so you learn how to max your chances of not getting fucked.
>single dose
>spray
>slow(ish) feed into grinder
>wet bottom filter
>dose to portafilter
>quick sworks wdt
>tamp
>top paper and puck screen
>yeet espresso

[Anonymous No.20255093]

>>20255050
what's an ulf?

[Anonymous No.20255119]

>>20254745
Bros pls

[Anonymous No.20255141]

>>20255093
One of the burr sets for that grinder. Ultra Low Fines. He's doing the slow feed autism because he's using a filter burr set to grind way finer than intended to build some pressure for espresso.
https://weberworkshops.com/products/eg1-burrs
>The Core (DB-1), which currently ship with all EG-1s; The Ultra (DB-2), built to be the ultimate for pour-over coffee; And The Base (DB-3), our burr set utilized in our original MK1 EG-1s.

[Anonymous No.20255147]

>>20250816
>Making coffee every morning is fun now because I get to Spin the Device

Thank you Chinese people

[Anonymous No.20255159]

>>20255119
dual boiler is nice if you want to steam milk while pulling shots.

[Anonymous No.20255161]

>>20255147
make sure to do it sideways

[Anonymous No.20255191]

>>20255080
Okay. How much difference is there between what you do and:
>single dose
>grind
>dose to portafilter
>wdt using conventional wdt tool
>pull shot
How much improvement is there and is it really justified to go through all of your steps for every shot?

[Anonymous No.20255197]

>>20254280
I want to explore different coffees from different terroirs but same roaster. They have a large offering of single origins at an honest price and are local to me.
I also buy from other roasters from time to time. New decaf offering from La Semeuse, Peru Mexico arabica bio blend. And a Nicaragua Waslala 90 square.

[Anonymous No.20255234]

I bought this because I cannot be bothered to get anal about coffee
Please tell me how much of a bad decision I made

[Anonymous No.20255243]

>>20255234
OG>Vertuo

[Anonymous No.20255254]

>>20255234
i dont know what that is

[Anonymous No.20255283]

>>20255191
>spray
takes time off the workflow. I get some chaff and fines static'd to my exit funnel most of the time if I don't so I have to bang it on the table a bit to knco it all loose. Visually better grounds as well. Little fluffier.
>slow feed
Takes a little time off too. Dropping in a half dose at a time keeps my "feed" funnel clean so I don't have to go back and push little popcorned bits and stray beans back in.
>wet paper filter
Less necessary now that I have a 2200hole high flow basket, but it still helps out with extraction a bit by keeping the basket holes from getting clogged with how fine I'm grinding month old light roast. I drop this out of the routine when my shots are running faster than I'd like/want to pull something higher bodied for a cortado. There's also different papers with different flow/properties like sibarist and ahlstrom 909s. Ahlstrom's are supposed to drop astringency somehow. I just use cut chemex filters.
>conventional wdt tool
minimal difference, its just nice. I dropped my 3d printed one behind my bar and I'm too lazy to move shit to get it. When I say quick wdt my grounds come out very nice and uniform so its more of a quick distribution/settling when I pour it in. I'm not busting up any clumps.
>top paper and puck screen
I've got a flair 58 so there's no shower screen. Puck screen keeps water from potentially digging into the top of the puck causing channeling, paper filter spreads it out even more, but mostly keeps the puck screen cleaner. I think its worth the extra minute. Every few weeks I take 10 minutes punch out a few hundred papers. 4 layers per cut, 20 espresso papers per chemex square.

[Anonymous No.20255296]

>>20255254
Nespresso pod machine.

Is it actually true that the consumer machines make worse coffee / espresso than what can be done manually? I feel like if you're not an expert and don't have a machine that costs as much as a new car, then a pod machine is just as good and the quality depends more on the coffee used.

[Anonymous No.20255313]

>>20255234
I don't get it, why not just get a normal batch brewer? I guess if you "don't wanna get anal about coffee" and that's taken to mean you don't care if your coffee is good, then any solution is as fine as another, good buy.

[Anonymous No.20255334]

>>20255296
>depends on the coffee used
well a few problems with that, nespresso doesn't just control variables to make things easier for consumers, the process is entirely different from espresso. secondly
>depends more on the coffee used
espresso sells really very bad coffee and tries hard to make third party sellers impractical. but yes, coffee is more important than technique, ultimately. if you want to take control out of your hands and just buy nice coffee, you could go for a bean to cup espresso machine, but believe it or not, they make worse espresso than a semi-automatic for full manual for the price, you don't need that much expertise to bridge that gap, automation doesn't mean perfection in this instance.

[Anonymous No.20255335]

Is this coffee?
No, it’s chicory with almond “milk”.
It’s close enough to keep me sane.

Farewell /ctg/ we had fun, thank you all.

[Anonymous No.20255338]

>>20255334
semi-automatic *OR full manual
>>20255335
just get decaf weirdo

[Anonymous No.20255354]

>>20255335
About the gayest, poorest drink you could imagine. How fitting. You've gone from filler robusta to an even cheaper filler. Make sure to try it with some organic soy.

[Anonymous No.20255397]

cafelet here, just got a cheap moka pot for 10$ a couple days ago and holy fuck it makes me feel so GOOD, some normal Columbian brew tastes 10x better than in my regular coffee maker

[Anonymous No.20255459]

>>20255283
Huh, sounds pretty reasonable. I might start using the top paper + puck screen. What do you use to cut the chemex filters? You mentioned something about a punch.

Have these tricks improved taste and shot quality, or is it purely for ease of prep and clean up?

[Anonymous No.20255642]

>>20255459
Improved is subjective, but flavors definitely change when you're changing your grind size with bottom filters/different flow baskets.
>punch
I use an ektools 2 1/4in. Its a scrapbooking punch. It sucks but it works. Shitty blade(apparently you can sharpen it with a small jeweler's file), shitty "action", its all plastic. Tears some papers, occasion rough edges. I had to exchange my the first one I bought. Whenever I get fed up enough to replace it I'll get something like pic rel. Adjustable razor blade you spin around to get the exact sizing for your baskets.
>Have these tricks improved taste and shot quality, or is it purely for ease of prep and clean up?
They've made my shots more consistent. When they act consistently its easier to tune your taste/coffee. With rested coffee I know I'm going to be somewhere between burr touch and about 120 micron gap. That range gives me anywhere from a 8second gusher to a minute long slow drip. High flow+unclogged basket means my "pressure" comes from the puck, not the co2 from (rapidly changing) fresher coffee or any resistance from a lower flow basket. It seems like you're adding steps but its just cutting out potential bottlenecks.

[Anonymous No.20255672]

>>20254572
Folgers instant coffee

[Anonymous No.20255696]

>>20255335
arrivederci lattanon

[Anonymous No.20255703]

>>20255672
Based incest enjoyer

[Anonymous No.20255722]

>>20255283
epf tastes cleaner but there's no evidence that it has less body, especially not if you grind slightly finer for it(which usually you will). I suppose that this in the grey zone between the objective and subjective and maybe having larger microfines in the brew is perceived as fuller bodied, but really in an objective sense I don't think there's compelling evidence

[Anonymous No.20255757]

>>20255254
Impressive.

[Anonymous No.20255944]

>>20255397
Mokachads stay winning

[Anonymous No.20255947]

>>20255722
>epf
I wonder if cafec made a custom paper for them or just used one of their other filters. I decided to cut some abacas, mediums, and whites. Here they are next to the cut chemex squares.

[Anonymous No.20256010]

>>20255947
I just used epf as a generic term but yeah I think weber has an exclusive deal on them, which I guess wouldn't account for much if they had zero unique characteristics. wouldn't be shocked either way tho. test it since you have a 58mm machine, do it for us

[Anonymous No.20256126]

>>20255161
Huh? Like hold the whole thing horizontal?

[Anonymous No.20256131]

>>20256126
almost sideways, still need gravity

[Anonymous No.20256141]

>>20255161
Great way to wear down one side of the outer burr disproportionally.

[Anonymous No.20256159]

>>20256131
Why on earth would I do such a thing mister

[Anonymous No.20256162]

>>20256141
what kinda psycho has an exact spot for hand placement? grinders are cylinders, it's a well known way to slowfeed in manuals, if anything they last longer for it

[Anonymous No.20256164]

>>20256159
more consistent grind, less regrinding

[Anonymous No.20256171]

>>20256164
This sounds like bullshit. Let me get her out and see

[Anonymous No.20256201]

>>20256171
Left is straight up. Right is sideways. They look the same nerd.

[Anonymous No.20256210]

>>20256201
dont worry, one of the gridneranons will probably come explain the real benefits to you before too long
i cba sorry

[Anonymous No.20256216]

>>20256210
I’m just messing around. In she goes to my dumpy DeLonghi.

One day I will kill you and replace you but not today my darling.

[Anonymous No.20256239]

>>20256171
it's quite literally simple physics
>>20256201
it's the same grind size retard the microfines won't be super obvious, get out the sieve, even then it's not guaranteed to be different, it's about minimizing a potential problem.

[Anonymous No.20256311]

>>20256201
>he did it?

[Anonymous No.20256325]

>>20255283
>he doesnt know
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLnB99VJ0HE

[Anonymous No.20256329]

>>20255696
>>20255354
i-is it over... is he gone?!

[Anonymous No.20256337]

>>20256216
based equatorial anon

[Anonymous No.20256365]

>>20256239
It was garbage anyway. Feels random wether my coffees great or garbage.

[Anonymous No.20256406]

>>20256365
I recommend watching videos on how to pour desu. I thought the same thing until I learned how to control my pour. (assuming you are doing pour over)

[Anonymous No.20256434]

>>20256406
>>20256216
Yeah me and my lovely pour over machine

[Anonymous No.20256449]

>>20256434
It's probably the machine then, maybe try aeropress if you want something easy but still pretty convenient

[Anonymous No.20256457]

Natural is so much better than washed it's insane. Washed is just boring by comparison.

[Anonymous No.20256493]

>>20256449
You know I do have one of those. Used to use it all the time. Got tired of doing it all the time for slightly better than pot coffee.

[Anonymous No.20256498]

>>20256493
Well, if you are willing to learn some technique, pour over will give you better results than aeropress, but it is less consistent. Definitely more reward for your effort though.

[Anonymous No.20256515]

>>20256329
I really hope he offs himself before getting anywhere near that poor old man.

[Anonymous No.20256524]

anyone tried espresso mixed with milk tea?

[Anonymous No.20256527]

>>20256457
uhh your carbonic maceration natural process bro?

[Anonymous No.20256534]

>>20256498
Probably not gonna get one. Don’t really need another coffee device. But maybe one day.

[Anonymous No.20256538]

>>20256527
I know you're memeing but I would like to experience more esoteric processing methods

[Anonymous No.20256568]

>>20256538
Hydrangea is great for checking out dank processes.
https://hydrangea.coffee/products/castillo-jaq-crepe-cultured-washed-finca-la-riviera
>Process: JAQ Crepe Cultured

[Anonymous No.20256617]

>>20256568
>>20256538
i just finished a bag of this
ETHIOPIA SIDAMO 45%
Washed process - indigenous heirloom
GUATEMALA EL BOQUERON 45%
Natural process - Catuai, Caturra, Typica and Villa Sarchi
COLOMBIA JAIRO ARCILA 5%
Honey+ (Wine Yeast / Peach) process - Castillo
COLOMBIA JAIRO ARCILA 5%
Honey+ (Wine Yeast / Lulo) process - Pink bourbon

and then rested in the bag for a whole month
shit was fucking crazy
it was some of the most wild coffee i have ever had, kicked like a mule. you would never know it had any washed in it at all.
i bought 2 more bags last night.
there are people that drink washed dark roast colombian/brazilian/ethiopian coffee their whole life, i dont understand how you can live like that.

[Anonymous No.20256705]

>>20256534
Don't worry anon, all you gotta do is get your beans wet. The bean juice comes out about the same no matter what. Your taste is gonna be different from day to day so it's not like it matters much anyway.
Making coffee is not a hobby unless you think buying things is a hobby. Use what you got and enjoy it.

[Anonymous No.20257391]

>>20256617
Imagine the look of shock on 3rd-wavers' faces when "4th wave coffee" becomes a thing and starts dragging the previous wave for pushing a "lack of diversity" in roasting and brewing methods, which results in coffees themselves becoming more homogenous despite the increased variety of origins

[Anonymous No.20257418]

[Anonymous No.20257463]

>>20257418
Did... did he just dump his leftover grounds into the cup after the pourover was done?

[Anonymous No.20257468]

>>20257463
no

[Anonymous No.20257616]

>>20256705
my hobby is paying my mortgage

[Anonymous No.20257642]

>>20257463
nah don't see how you're seeing that, he just didn't like the coffee

[Anonymous No.20257700]

I haven't cleaned my Specialita in over 2 years, any other lazy bastards here?

Is grinder maintenance a hoax?

[Anonymous No.20257762]

>>20257700
the abrasiveness of the beans cleans the grinder

[Anonymous No.20257903]

espresso is suddenly tasting bitter. beans are old, so that might be it.
what variable should I mess with first?
>grind coarser
>change amount of beans
>change amount of espresso pulled
>change temperature

[Anonymous No.20257910]

>>20257903
you can grind less fine but that works against having less co2 so your shot might be way too fast, that's why old beans are kinda rough for espresso. you could add a pinch of salt or milk to the cofe to fight bitterness

[Anonymous No.20257913]

>>20257910
>so your shot might be way too fast
yeah that's a problem I'm suddenly having too.
Luckily I'm down to ~100g of beans left so it isn't a huge deal
>you could add a pinch of salt or milk to the cofe to fight bitterness
I've been doing lattes for the last few days because my espresso has been so bad haha

[Anonymous No.20258047]

>>20256457
Natty is low rent shit meant for adding body to a blend, hardly a step above robusta.

[Anonymous No.20258113]

I wish espressos were bigger, it's sad that you can't nurse a cup for very long.
>>20258047
natural is a more expensive process than washed

[Anonymous No.20258200]

>>20257616
For me, it's paying my gas bill

[Anonymous No.20258201]

bought a moccamaster last week.
the hype is real, just good coffee.

[Anonymous No.20258219]

>>20258201
You did get the thermal carafe version and not a hotplate one, right anon?

[Anonymous No.20258293]

>>20258113
Switch to the decaf life and start doing 4x double espressos at once.
My problem now is that regular coffee tastes too watered down

[Anonymous No.20258314]

>>20258293
build a tolerance to caffeine and enjoy the coffee lyfe

[Anonymous No.20258326]

>>20258314
400mg of caffeine is a bit excessive

[Anonymous No.20258355]

>>20258314
It's funny that all it took for Europe to leapfrog the rest of the world was switching from downers (alcohol/beer) to stimulants (tea/coffee)

[Anonymous No.20258365]

>>20258219
no, I only make enough to fill my thermos for the day, so it never sits for more than a few minutes after brewing.

[Anonymous No.20258446]

>>20258355
Recovering from having it's population decimated, twice, probably helped

[Anonymous No.20258552]

>>20258293
>Switch to the decaf life and start doing 4x double espressos at once.
it'd be a pain on my shitty dedica that doesn't have a solenoid and is only 51mm. it does sound great though

[Anonymous No.20258819]

>>20257418
>making 80mls of coffee with a pourover
do japs really do this or is it just for comedic effect

[Anonymous No.20258846]

>>20258819
doubt it, then again they probably didn't make the cup for the bit, and it looks like it'd be annoying for espresso.. so not sure. maybe it's just for experimenting/dialling in?

[Anonymous No.20258886]

>>20258819
>>20258846

[Anonymous No.20258895]

>>20258886
that says for 1 cup that's still way more

[Anonymous No.20258941]

that's it I'm getting a decaf, pissed that I can't get another delicious shot before bed. any particularly great decaf roasters? or should I just default to Wendelboe as the goat roaster?

[Anonymous No.20258954]

>>20258941
>not a single one of my favorite roasters are even carrying a decaf option right now
grim, starting to question this venture

[Anonymous No.20258978]

>>20258941
Just stop reacting to caffeine anon, why make things complicated?

[Anonymous No.20258994]

>>20258978
no

[Anonymous No.20259000]

>>20258994
well then you can't be helped I'm sorry to say

[Anonymous No.20259007]

Friends, if I can down a double espresso then immediately go to sleep with no issues does that mean I have good genetics or am I defective? Asking for me.

[Anonymous No.20259011]

>>20259000
I can, by getting decaf.
>>20259007
just means you're good at sleeping/have good sleep hygiene. congrats anon. I can't do that shit I already struggle sleeping

[Anonymous No.20259016]

>>20258941
just roast your own
>>20258886
lol neat, anyone have any experience with one of these?
clearly not what he's using in the webm but idk why i balked at that in the first place when i brewed just 160 mls myself earlier

[Anonymous No.20259128]

>>20259016
>just roast your own
I won't, there are people better at it than me with contacts that let them get more exciting beans than me. also afaik getting good decaf is fairly expensive compared to roasting normal

[Anonymous No.20259155]

>>20257700
>Is grinder maintenance a hoax?
for home users? yes mostly

[Anonymous No.20259159]

>>20259128
good SWP decaf greens are quite reasonably priced

[Anonymous No.20259167]

>>20258326
4 u

[Anonymous No.20259168]

>>20257700
This>>20259155
Even daily use in a home setting isn't really going to do enough to your grinder for it to need "maintenance" very often at all. If your grinder is retaining enough crap in it to need disassembled and cleaned then it's a piece of shit that you should replace.

[Anonymous No.20259169]

>>20259128
>>20259159
i mean yeah it can range slightly higher but its still far less expensive than buying roasted beenz

[Anonymous No.20259178]

>>20259169
that's not a concern though, just wanted some recs for some quality decafs, if price was a concern I'd obviously not buy from tim wendelboe

[Anonymous No.20259181]

>>20259178
you brought it up
i dont have any recs im afraid but i understannd not wanting to get into roasting

[Anonymous No.20259189]

>>20259181
yeah I brought up asking for recommendations for decaf, as in, what roasteries make good decaf.
I might get into roasting someday but not anytime soon

[Anonymous No.20259192]

>>20259168

[Anonymous No.20259197]

>>20259192
it's shit

[Anonymous No.20259210]

>>20259168
also if you wdt there really shouldn't be any problem
>>20259192
skill issue
also we have no idea what grinder or what beans are most used.
the idea of grinder maintenance came from commercial grinders which actually do need to be taken apart and cleaned once in a while because they grind more beans per day than a home user grinds per month
and they almost exclusively use dark oily beans and obviously dont wdt
and on top of that the average temp and humidity is going to be way higher inside a commercial grinder than a home grinder
i mean at home its 1 dose in the morning and maybe 1 in the afternoon?
in a cafe its constant grinding.
the machine simply doesnt have the time to cool down between doses

[Anonymous No.20259216]

>>20259210
assuming you mean rdt

[Anonymous No.20259238]

>>20259216
Don't correct the psued he obviously knows what he's talking about. Whisk those beans.

[Anonymous No.20259314]

>>20259189
you brought up the price of decaf greens (even though it's apparently a non-issue for you) so i commented on that
if you have a good roaster that you like, then chances are, you will like their decaf too

[Anonymous No.20259324]

>>20259314
no I meant the process of making decaf. as in, expensive on an industrial scale. I had thought it was done on the roasters end of things as it sometimes is commercially afaik

[Anonymous No.20259329]

>>20259324
i see, fair enough
i should think it does add a cost but i dont think its an especially high one

[Anonymous No.20259399]

>>20259216
hmm
yes
sorry
i am uncaffeinated right now

[Anonymous No.20259433]

>>20256365
read Johnathan gange ignore the Reddit smoothbrains

[Anonymous No.20259457]

>>20259433
you guys are so fucking annoying, gagne supports slowfeeding and bean-by-bean, which is what sideways grinding emulates in handgrinders. why would you think gagne disagrees with me without even looking into it?

[Anonymous No.20259512]

>>20251127
tea hurts me on an empty stomach more than coffee. especially stuff like Houjicha and Oolong

[Anonymous No.20259593]

>>20258113
i had a coworker who drank cups of instant coffee at espresso level concentrations, he eventually went to the doctor for stomach pain

[Anonymous No.20259622]

been going to st****cks lately just for a place to be with the wife and newborn outside the house. got a tall “strawberry lavender tea latte” for my wife, she didn’t like it so i ended up drinking it. turns out this thing had like 230mg of caffeine despite having no coffee. when will they stop sneaking absurd amounts of caffeine into everything?

[Anonymous No.20259641]

>>20259593
considering that espresso is like 50% coffee that's almost impossible if your coworker added water at all, since instant is like 50% filler woody fibers from them overextracting like crazy(45%+ extraction) to save money. I guess I'll interpret as espresso consistency.

[Anonymous No.20260049]

>>20259641
>considering that espresso is like 50% coffee
it's not

[Anonymous No.20260689]

early coof not mine didn't make it(might add more)

[Anonymous No.20260700]

>>20260689
nice

[Anonymous No.20260746]

>>20260700
the K6 is there twice buddy

[Anonymous No.20260765]

>>20260746
>so is the k4
don't take it seriously a schizo made it after all

[Anonymous No.20260807]

Sometimes when I drink coffee; yaknow good coffee made with good beans, it hurts my stomach. Anyone else? It feels like I'm going to puke it up, despite it smelling and tasting good.

[Anonymous No.20261056]

>>20260807
no, I think you might just be sick

[Anonymous No.20261135]

Between this and a nespresso machine what should I get bros? I like my moka pot but it's just a hassle to use every morning

[Anonymous No.20261145]

>>20261135
>I like my moka pot but it's just a hassle to use every morning
how is that possible?
also that machine is as much or more work than a moka
if you want less work just get a pod machine

[Anonymous No.20261149]

>>20261145
You can put ese pods in the delonghi

[Anonymous No.20261155]

>>20261135
dedica is the very very obvious choice, but it cannot make good espresso alone, so if that's the whole budget from scratch, I guess you're stuck with nespresso. if you're willing to switch out the portafilter, and have/can get a grinder that can grind espresso fine, the dedica is so far above what you can get with the nespresso that there's no conversation to be had, the dedica is better. it might still be better if you use preground espresso in the pressurized basket, but that's such a waste and also debatable

[Anonymous No.20261179]

>>20261135
>>20261155
>I like my moka pot but it's just a hassle to use every morning
I take it back, just get a batch brewer it's by far the most convenient, will still be able to create far better coffee than a nespresso, more conveniently

[Anonymous No.20261379]

>>20260807
Have you tried to use a chemex or just two filters? Their filters are very thick and remove a lot of the oils and acidity which could be upsetting your stomach.

[Anonymous No.20261574]

anyone roast their own beans? it's awesome and satisfying.

[Anonymous No.20261585]

Thoughts on this badboy?

[Anonymous No.20261627]

>>20261585
if you're in europe just buy the gaggia classic pro cause it's overpriced to shit here and the gaggia is just way way better, in usa idk, seems like an okay budget option if it's not much more expensive than the dedica.

[Anonymous No.20261712]

>>20261585
Better espresso out of the box than a gaggia. Gaggias are more moldable and repairable though.
>>20260746
No shit.

[Anonymous No.20261720]

>>20261585
gud enuf

[Anonymous No.20261725]

>>20261712
>Better espresso out of the box than a gaggia
but just the OPV mod instantly reverses that, and that's borderline a free and very easy fix.

[Sloorper !!5KKDqtnZHqV No.20261741]

>>20261627
From what I can see DeLonghi Dedica is ~200, Breville Bambino is ~300 and Gaggio Classic Pro is ~430. The Gaggia seems to take a long time to get started? The Bambino webpage says it gets started in 3 seconds which is pretty amazing if real

[Anonymous No.20261744]

>>20261741
>The Bambino webpage says it gets started in 3 seconds which is pretty amazing if real
it's fast as fuck but really you're gonna use more than 45 seconds to prep the puck so it ends up not making any difference in your workflow. I've heard it's nice if you're also using it for tea though, don't quote me on that

[Anonymous No.20261746]

>>20261741
Yeah you need to turn the gcp on in advance. The dedica is almost as fast

[Sloorper !!5KKDqtnZHqV No.20261747]

>>20261744
I'm reading online about some people giving it 10-15 minutes... is it a meme?

[Anonymous No.20261753]

>>20261747
I was comparing to Dedica, that's my machine, dunno about Gaggia sorry

[Anonymous No.20261771]

>>20261725
Bambino is also just more thermally stable/repeatable out of the box. Well tuned stock pid, its just not adjustable.
>>20261747
You want everything to be heat soaked. Nothing in the way like a cold portafilter/grouphead to sap temp off your water.

[Sloorper !!5KKDqtnZHqV No.20261824]

>>20261771
>>20261753
>>20261746
>>20261744
>>20261725
>>20261720
>>20261712
>>20261627
Thanks everyone. I'll do some more thinking but I may go for the Bambino or the Dedica. I like that the Dedica is very compact.

[Anonymous No.20261831]

>>20261824
fwiw I have a hard time imagining that I could get much better shots than I do with dedica, to me it tastes delicious(so long as you replace the pressurized basket and prepare your puck properly)

[Anonymous No.20261923]

>>20261585
I've got one and I like it a lot. Comes with a normal basket out of the box which is nice, I did eventually switch the portafilter with a different one that didn't have the spouts and had a nicer wooden handle.

[Anonymous No.20261936]

>>20261712
>moldable
Kek. Moddable. Fucking autocorrect.

[Anonymous No.20262446]

>>20261574
yeah

[Anonymous No.20262578]

>>20261574
yeh
more satisfying than cooking food honestly

[Anonymous No.20262622]

steam wands hurt my ears
is there any other way to steam milk

[Anonymous No.20262632]

Best decaf in Southern California? I blended some alright decaf with some really good regular and it made a good doubleshot for a Cortado. I think there must be better decaf around though.

[Anonymous No.20262635]

>feel tired
>drink coffee
>still tired
cant even game like this

[Anonymous No.20262656]

>>20262635

[Anonymous No.20262668]

>>20262622
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VRhJxnlpXTA
extremely sorry for fag hendrick but he has a good video on it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r5RmmiF3QFY
or you can use this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sm_MXkX-mLg

[Anonymous No.20263596]

>>20261741
I bought a GCP during the sale a little while back and it takes almost no time to heat up. You flip the power switch on and by the time you've prepped your beans, portafilter, glasses, milk, etc. it's ready to go. It heats up fast enough that you need to temp surf to get it back down to a reasonable brew temp.

[Anonymous No.20263602]

>>20261725
Also if you get the GCP evo from whole late love it's literally already got the 9 bar opv mod out of the box

[Anonymous No.20263688]

>>20263602
And you get a flaking boiler + shitty customer service as a bonus.

[Anonymous No.20263691]

Thoughts on the K Ultra versus the ZP6 for pourover? I heard the ZP6 gives more clarity and the K Ultra has more body.

[Anonymous No.20263723]

>>20263688
Eh, I've had no issues with mine

[Anonymous No.20264052]

>>20262668
thanks for replying
fool that i am, id hoped to simply, learn some techniques instead of purchasing a unitasker

[Anonymous No.20264162]

>>20264052
oh sorry
:) ( :( )

[Anonymous No.20264186]

>>20263691
take the zp6 pill

[Anonymous No.20264195]

>>20264162
thats ok

[Anonymous No.20264217]

>>20263691
"Different kinds of clarity". They're incomparable. I'd also say try the zp6.

[Anonymous No.20264267]

>>20262622
Plug ear

Follow me for more hack

[Anonymous No.20264467]

>>20264267
i cant find the follow button

[Anonymous No.20264488]

>>20264467
You put your email in the name field and then type "noko" in the options field.

[Anonymous No.20264505]

>>20264467
skill issue

[Anonymous No.20264507]

3rd coffee of the morning, why is it so good?

[Anonymous No.20264526]

>>20264507
its goffee

[Anonymous No.20264542]

>>20262635
the usual fix here is sleep

[Anonymous No.20264549]

>>20263688
gcps are known for longevity while the breville is the opposite

[Anonymous No.20264812]

Could someone give me a tl;dr on what it means when hand grinder have problems with static?
I'm looking for a budget hand grinder, because I moved to a place that has a couple of coffee shops close by. So I can get small quantities of freshly roasted beans now. I'm going to be using them in an aeropress the vast majority of the time, with the occasional pour over if I've got people over and need more than one cup. I've been shopping around and the kingrinder p0/p1 seems to get good reviews, but I've seen the occasional complaint that the plastic housing has problems with static? Alternatively I've also ran across the timemore c3s, but the main sticking point there seems to be that the dial doesn't have a lot of steps. Though I'm not sure that matters much if I'm not going to use it for espresso?
I'm very new at this, so if I've missed any obvious options I'm all ears. I'm using a really old electric blade grinder right now that used to my grandma's, so that needs replacing sooner rather than later.

[Anonymous No.20264827]

>>20264812
>Could someone give me a tl;dr on what it means when hand grinder have problems with static?
all grinders have a problem with static
the way you deal with that is doing rdt
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D8zqp3CgcbA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLnB99VJ0HE
done
no more static

[Anonymous No.20264870]

>>20250816
>buy three bags of specialist coffee beans
>try grinding each, cooking them on stove w/ moka pot and adding a little of the coffee to a small cup to try before I add them to the usual lattes I make
>each one tastes sharp as hell, and I can taste nothing but cherry despite the 'notes' that are advertised on the packaging
Am I doing something wrong? Does the comparative tasting demonstrated by James Hoffmann only apply when you try multiple shots of different coffees in quick succession?

[Anonymous No.20264873]

>>20256568
Any European roaster equivalent? My usual roasters usually have one dank process offering, but it's often expensive.

[Anonymous No.20264884]

>>20264812
Ah, actually I got a P1 after it being recommended to me on one of these threads. And yeah, I understand what is meant by the static - when you grind coffee some of the grounds stick to the base. Interestingly, I've noticed that this depends to a large extent on what coffee you're using - so far when I've been using fresher blends from specialist producers the result is that a LOT more grounds get stuck to the base, but with the P1 you get a wee little brush that I use to sweep these grounds into the moka pot thingy thing. If I get store coffee then the problem of static, whilst still there, isn't nearly as prevalent.

Attatched diagram shows very similar to how the P1 works btw, albeit with plastic casing. I love it but so far its the only grinder I've used. You can step it up a lot (I use 30 for the moka pot, and 40 for the coffee machine at work) which works nicely. You put the hand crank in the top before rotating the uh... stepper for lack of a better word in order to get the desired no clicks (you'll feel it getting harder or easier to move depenidng on how fine/ course you're going).

But best to look to others here for advice, they know better~

[Anonymous No.20264887]

>>20264870
>before I add them to the usual lattes I make
Maybe you don't like coffee

[Anonymous No.20264909]

>>20264887
:(

[Anonymous No.20264935]

>>20264884
I'm curious how long it takes you to grind a dose of say, 15 grams. I remember ceramics being torture

[Anonymous No.20265117]

>>20264935
Idk... I don't measure grams, I just got enough to fill a moka filter, so like a shot or two?... It takes like a minute and a half maybe, I usually grind whilst I'm having the kettle boil.

[Anonymous No.20265473]

>>20251708
I agree. This one felt like a back-up to meet his video quota this month.

[Anonymous No.20265599]

>>20250816
hey amerigolems, how do you call the coffee with water you drink, the rest of the world calls it "american", but how do you call it?
Just "black" coffee?

[Anonymous No.20265615]

>>20255234
>Please tell me how much of a bad decision I made
Not at all a bad decision. Pretty convenient and the centrifugal shit happening on the inside I think helps for a pretty decent extraction. It obviously won't be a 100% amazing espresso, but it will conveniently give you a 90-95%. Also the original is shit so the best decision you made was at least getting the vertuo.

t. family has original, I have vertuo

[Anonymous No.20265621]

>>20265599
>american
wrong
they call it an americano
because americans in italy were weak bitches and couldn't handle the strong coffee, so they took the coffee that italians drank and added hot water
and because only the americans ordered this drink it was called the americano.
and yes americans in america call the americano the americano when they order an americano.

[Anonymous No.20265640]

>>20255050
someone posted a pic of ulf vs core and it seemed like the outfall was 10x bigger on one of them, idk which, even though it was the same geometry aside from that. lots of people on teh forumz are sayin that ulf isn't really as low-fines as something like brew v1.

btw guys reminder if you're using tapwater ur doing it wrong

[Anonymous No.20265647]

>>20259622
bahah what their triple shot doesn't get me feeling a buzz when my avg dose is 18g med roast

[Anonymous No.20265648]

>>20265599
>amerigolems
nice pleonasm

[Anonymous No.20265652]

>>20264870
>"specialist" coffee
>james hoffmann
fuckin retard use aeropress brew at 85

[Anonymous No.20265671]

>>20265652
high iq not extracting the microplastiks

[Anonymous No.20265673]

>>20264827
Thanks for that, senpai
>>20264884
I see, thanks. So it's limited to the grounds sticking a bit to the base then? Which should be solved by the method in the other anon's videos, if I'm understanding correctly.

So, with that info, it seems I've got a couple of options here:
>kingrinder p0: 30 euro, cheapest options
>kingrinder p1: 40 euro, slightly more expensive. Unsure if it's better somehow?
>kingrinder p2: 50 euro, first one to be advertised specifically for espresso
>timemore C3S/ESP: 52/58 euro, maybe better constructed?
>timemore C3 PRO: 70 euro. Not sure what the upsides are over the C3S except for the folding handle
>Other: ?
If anyone wants to chime in why a certain option here is good and I should get it, or awful and I'm an idiot for even considering it, I'd appreciate it. Other options welcome, I'm just listing what I can find locally, but I'm willing to use aliexpress if need be.

[Anonymous No.20265676]

>>20265648
outside of the mainstream insults there's the good ones
>>20265621
you sure they don't just call it "black" coffee?

[Anonymous No.20265734]

>>20265676
>you sure they don't just call it "black" coffee?
yes
black coffee is any coffee made in any way
as long as there is no milk in it, it is black coffee.

[Anonymous No.20265764]

>>20265676
Calling it a pleonasm is in and of itself an insult anon.

Also it's calle POC coffee, get with the times biggot.

[Anonymous No.20265809]

>>20264884
Are you spritzing your beans or not?

[Anonymous No.20265818]

>>20265673
Get a p0 or a p2. Not really worth checking ali listings imo, with the added VAT it comes out to almost the same if not more expensive than ordering from a european amazon, and you have to wait four times longer for shipping.

[Anonymous No.20265912]

>>20265640
Ulf is allegedly 80mp.

[Anonymous No.20265923]

>>20250816
God I needed to make this. Its basic bitch blended coffee steeped in a french press with cardamon spices, with frothed half&half sweetened with sugar and added vanilla extract, rose water, and dark chocolate drizzle. I kinda cant wait to get good coffee to drink black, but I do love me some good flavored drinks.
>>20251127
It's the tannins or acid level. It can cause your bowls to dump contents which is people say coffee makes them poop. Dont drink light roast or very acidic coffee and strain it through a paper filter. Also drink it wu food.
>>20254268
This kinda reminds me of a light roasted washed Catuai from Gatamala. Its was noted to taste like earthy roasted marshmallow. It was basically that, but I'd describe it as the most plainest coffee flavor. No nutty, chocolate notes or fruit. Just roasted earthiness with a natural sweetness that builds. Its nothing amazing but just really solid. Like really good plain cream icecream. Just comfy. Still had more character than a Brazilian blend.
>>20255197
Nice mug
>>20255335
Putting it in a clear glass was a mistake.
>>20255397
Welcome to the cult moka bro
>>20264870
When you say "sharp" do you mean acidic or sour?

[Anonymous No.20265980]

>>20261179
>get a batch brewer
any suggestions?

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[Anonymous No.20266157]

>>20265671
it doesn't denature the amino acids and proteins under about 82. i brew at 80 in ap with nordic roasts, just gotta stir. thickness for days, nobody recommends it except luna