/ck/ - Food & Cooking

[Anonymous No.19914477]

I keep trying to make one of these but the fucking cheese won't melt before the bread burns. I tried lowering the heat but then it takes forever for the bread to get toasted. How long are these supposed to take?

[Anonymous No.19914481]

>>19914477
the heat of the bread melts the cheese

[Anonymous No.19914483]

>>19914477
the heat of the bread melts the cheese
i.e. don't keep it on the pan waiting for the cheese to heat up

[Anonymous No.19914485]

>>19914477
Like a minute or two on each side at medium heat. You are buttering the outside of the bread, right?

[Anonymous No.19914491]

>>19914477
>t. Gordon Ramsey

[Anonymous No.19914495]

try cooking em on a very hot pan, rather than one on a lower heat-setting. it might be a function of the cheese/bread ur usin as well idk

[Anonymous No.19914506]

>>19914477
Oil both sides of bread
Make sandwich
Place in oven at 385 until bread is toasted. Roughly 10 minutes.

Remove from oven, allow to cool some, slice into triangles, put on plate, grab sandwich, place part of sandwich into mouth, bite, chew, swallow, REPEAT until both halves have been consumed.

[Anonymous No.19914517]

>>19914477
use a lid on the pan
/thread

[Anonymous No.19914521]

>>19914477
Bring the cheese to room temperature you donkey

[Anonymous No.19914524]

>>19914477
I get better results by pressing the sandwich down with a spatula. Some cheese may ooze out, but it's fine

[Anonymous No.19914527]

>>19914506
>oven
And you call it a grilled cheese despite the fact it's obviously baked?

[Anonymous No.19914545]

>>19914527
It's a regional dialect. Upstate New York.

[Anonymous No.19914546]

>>19914527
No, I call it ovened cheese. The result is nearly the same and requires absolutely zero attention.

I don't hear you calling a grilled cheese made in a pan, panned cheese either, buster.

[Anonymous No.19914548]

>>19914517
But then the bread gets soggy.

[Anonymous No.19914552]

>>19914477
the heat from the cheese toasts the bread

[Anonymous No.19914556]

>>19914477
>but the fucking cheese won't melt before the bread burns.
Which cheese?
Are the slices thick?

[Anonymous No.19914568]

>>19914506
This, except do 345 if you use butter to keep it under butter's smoke point.
I use a convection oven for this - it's faster.
This method is pretty foolproof.

[Anonymous No.19914572]

You are all doing it wrong

[Anonymous No.19914584]

[Anonymous No.19914588]

>>19914527
It's your house, call it whatever you want. No one is going to break down the door to force you to call it one thing or the other.

[Anonymous No.19914593]

[Anonymous No.19914667]

Don't bother using regular butter because the milk solids will burn. You want a reasonably high smoke point and a high level of saturated fat to help create a nice crunchy crust on the bread.
Clarified butter and beef tallow are my top picks with tallow being my favorite if its been flavored; for example if you make a pot roast with herbs, spices, garlic, shallots etc which have infused into the rendered fat then skim it off and use that it will taste incredible.
Preheat your skillet, melt enoughclarified butter/tallow to coat the bottom of the skillet evenly, lay in your bread and slide it around to soak up the fat.
After a minute or two once you're happy with the level of browning on the bread place your cheese on top, stick the skillet underneath the broiler in your oven to melt the cheese, close the sandwich, and enjoy.

[Anonymous No.19914687]

>>19914477
Medium to medium low is the way to go, to speed things up bring the cheese to room temperature and slice it really thin.

[Anonymous No.19914750]

>>19914548
so then... toast the bread after the cheese is melted...?

[Anonymous No.19914762]

Thin layer of mayo on the pan side of the bread, butter in the pan. Don't listen to the mayo detractors. The mayo will prevent burning and give an even golden brown toast. It's like a fat shield.

[Anonymous No.19914798]

>>19914762
ah, a fellow enlightened mayo grilled cheese consumer. I reccomend using sourdough bread if you have it, the mayo really makes the tangy flavor pop.

[Anonymous No.19914807]

>>19914545
I'm from Utica and I've never heard of it

[Anonymous No.19914954]

u can bake them open face then grill the outside, or u can put them open face in a pan on low until the cheese melts, then close the sandwich and grill the outside

[Anonymous No.19914963]

>>19914762
>>19914798
Gentlemen, Gentlemen. Two wise patrician souls using based mayo. I toured with the grateful dead in the early 90s. Sold grilled cheese sandwiches in the parking lot. Mayo, wonder bread, and cheap cheese. It was awesome
t.old hippie

[Anonymous No.19914965]

>>19914807
i used to own a grilled cheese shop in utica called cheesys

[Anonymous No.19915238]

>>19914477
>How long are these supposed to take?

with processed american cheese? 30 seconds.

with real cheese? lol it depends.

the key is to get the pan superhot, slam the bread down then flip it right as it starts to burn. the heat of the bread unironically melts the cheese.

if you get a good toast on each side but the cheese still hasnt melted, then just cheat and throw the whole thing in the microwave for like 30 seconds.

different cheeses have different melting points, so there isnt any straightforward rule. Just remember: food can still cook after youve removed it from the heat, and likewise cheese can still melt.

[Anonymous No.19915280]

>>19915238
This is the most retarded "I think I know what I'm talking about" post I've seen in a while.

[Anonymous No.19915348]

>>19914667
This, toast the bread and then melt the cheese as a separate operation under a broiler or in a microwave if you are lazy. If you keep it as two separate open faced cheese sandwiches you can also add other ingredients such as tomato slices, ham, etc.

[Anonymous No.19915454]

>>19914477
Take cheese out of fridge 20 mins before making the sandwich

[Anonymous No.19915496]

Kind of surprised how many ways people making grilled cheese
For myself, it’s buttered bread open face in the pan with cheese, then a sprinkle of water and a lid to melt the cheese. The water doesn’t make the bread soggy, if that’s your worry, it will still get crispy. Then add the top slice of buttered bread, flip the sandwich, toast the other side, and it’s done
By the by, what are peoples preferred cheese(s)?

[Tuna No.19915508]

>>19915496
Boars head american cheese.

[Anonymous No.19915621]

>>19914477
what kind of cheese are you using? Something tells me you're not using based pasteurized prepared cheese product

[Anonymous No.19915642]

>>19914477
You are using the wrong type of bread Anon

[Anonymous No.19915659]

>>19914477
>>19915642
nah op got it right but you cut it this way

[Anonymous No.19915670]

Having the cheese at room temperature or as close as you can get to it really helps.

Low and slow for the temp. My range goes from 1-7. If I cook it on anything above 3.5, it'll typically burn once its up to temp. I usually set it at 2.5, let the pan warm up properly for 5-10 minutes. Dropping butter in the pan instead of spreading it on the bread is almost essential. Get the cheese on the bread asap to start melting. If you're using two types of chees, cooking both halves of the sandwich is great as it'll warm up both cheeses so that when you combine the halves, it's basically done. Give it a few flips after that to even out the warmth and to cook to your desired browning.

I like to put a very thin layer of mayo on the bread beforehand, too. It'll help with the crispiness of the bread and adds a little tang. Of course, it's not necessary.

It's something you won't get right every time, but there are things you can do to help make it better. Best of luck, anon.

[Anonymous No.19915700]

>>19915659
I cut my grilled cheese and PB&J that way, but I cut basically any other sandwich diagonally. I don't know why, it just feels correct.

[Anonymous No.19915705]

>>19915700
same i cut my turkey horizontal too though
blt/salami/chicken all go diagonal

[Anonymous No.19915707]

>>19914506
>put it in the oven
That’s not a grilled cheese any more you fucking bong

[Anonymous No.19915708]

>>19915705
But what if you put turkey and salami on the same sandwich? What are you supposed to do then?

[Anonymous No.19915714]

>>19915707
This is a grill to Bongs.

[Anonymous No.19915718]

>>19915708
no cut

[Anonymous No.19915727]

>>19915707
Yeah and your pan isn't a grill either you SCHLUB.

[Anonymous No.19915741]

>>19914807
It's an Albany expression

[Anonymous No.19915743]

>>19914798
thought this was a picture of celestia. op try putting a little dash of water in when you put it in your buttered pan and cover it for like thirty seconds then cook it normal

[Anonymous No.19915755]

>>19914963
kill yourself hippy scum

[Anonymous No.19915759]

>>19914524
all grilled sammiches should be spatula pressed as far as im concerned

[Anonymous No.19915914]

>>19915642
Oh god. You can see the butter pooling in the pan. God no. Grim. Just grim.

[Anonymous No.19915922]

>>19914527
>>19914545
>>19914807
>>19915741
Amazing samefag

[Anonymous No.19915949]

>>19915914

Like it should be.

[Anonymous No.19915972]

>>19915741
AURORA BOREALIS
AT THIS TIME OF YEAR
IN THIS TIME OF DAY
IN THIS PART OF THE COUNTRY ?

[Anonymous No.19916031]

>>19914965
i bet your menu was complicated and overpriced

[Anonymous No.19916115]

>>19915743
See an eye doctor today.

>>19915755
You couldn't possibly glow harder.

[Anonymous No.19916205]

Why are you guys so determined to get this wrong
Splash of worcestershire then broil it

[Anonymous No.19916240]

>>19914588
I fucking hate AI so much. Why the fuck did it stab one of the sandwiches with a spoon? AI is so godamn retarded and I'm tired of pretending that it's not.

[Anonymous No.19916246]

>>19914588
>>19916240
and why did it put some of the soup in a jar? and why the fuck did it put the jar on top of a spoon? FUCK. AND who the FUCK holds a sandwich like that bitch while they're eating it?? why is there a plastic tomato on the table? WHO THE FUCk serves a sandwich on a cutting board?? what is wrong with her teeth? FUCK AI SO MUCH

[Anonymous No.19917015]

>>19915922
>STOP HAVING FUN

[Anonymous No.19917065]

>>19916240
>frogposter calling anything else retarded

[Anonymous No.19917227]

>toast bread lowest setting
>butter and cheese both breads on one size
>cookie sheet and broil in oven until cheese melts
>assemble sandwich
>butter outside and pan
>fry until gold
Perfect every time

[Anonymous No.19917241]

>>19914963
Also based

[Anonymous No.19917277]

>>19914477
What kind of cheese are you using?

[Anonymous No.19917301]

>>19914477
if you really want to make sure it melts, grate your cheese instead of just using slabs. also make sure to butter the outside of the bread (or mayo is even better)

[Anonymous No.19917424]

Mayo on the bread instead of butter. Little butter in the pan if you want. Medium low heat. Cover it. Cook other side uncovered. Don’t squish it or smash it. Serve with pickles. You’re welcome.

[Anonymous No.19917854]

>>19916246
It's called having a sense of humor. AI is far more advanced than you give credit for.

[Anonymous No.19917933]

>>19916246
Autism the post

[Anonymous No.19918105]

>>19914477
Toast the first side without the top slice on yet. Put a lid over it so the heat gets trapped and melts the cheese. Then take the lid off while you toast the other side.

[Anonymous No.19918120]

>>19915707
It's a cheese toastie not a fucking "grilled cheese" you autistic mystery meat slob

[Anonymous No.19918130]

>>19916246
>why did it put some of the soup in a jar?
That's Blood Orange Tang.
>AND who the FUCK holds a sandwich like that bitch while they're eating it??
She gave the guy a bite as a form of flirting. You wouldn't understand.
>why is there a plastic tomato on the table?
Looks like a red bell pepper there for decorative purposes. Women do that type of thing.
>WHO THE FUCk serves a sandwich on a cutting board?
I do that regularly. It's cute.
>Spoons! Spoons! Spoons!
Maybe the AI just likes spoons.

[Anonymous No.19918201]

>>19914477
don't use frozen cheese. thaw it first.

[Anonymous No.19918213]

>>19914477
3-4 minutes per side on medium low. I make a pretty thick sandwich and it gets melted and toasted this way.

[Anonymous No.19918233]

>>19914477
don't eat this it's very Carson genetic

[Anonymous No.19918252]

>>19914477
>Grilled cheese

[Anonymous No.19918266]

>>19914477
I'm probably too late but if your bread is too fluffy or rigid, use a weight to press it down. And don't use maximum heat, use medium high to allow time for the bread to crisp up while also heating the inside
Most chefs use a weight for consistency. I think Kenji Lopez Trans uses one in his videos. All about the ingredients and pan, most don't need weight but it's not uncommon to use either

[Anonymous No.19918278]

>>19918252
>"Noo gordon ramsay doesn't even know how to make a late night grilled cheese sandwich that his kids know how to make!?!==#!"
He's using a cheese that doesn't melt good in this video, mongoloid https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8E4cQHejFq0
The traditional uses american factory cheese for maximum melt. He used some italian shit in that

[Anonymous No.19918293]

>>19914506
>swallow
Shit. This is what I've been doing wrong.

[Anonymous No.19918299]

>>19918120
it's a grilled cheese you baby-talking inbred cretin

[Anonymous No.19918582]

All mayo grillers must hang. Using mayo is using cheap soybean oil and old eggs. The reason mayo is recommended for grilled cheese is because it is easier to spread than butter, but neither is correct for making grilled cheese. Melting clarified butter, beef tallow, bacon grease etc. in the pan will yield a superior crust for your grilled cheese.

[Anonymous No.19918598]

>>19918278
>He's using a cheese that doesn't melt good in this video
then why did he choose that cheese, shouldn't he know better?

[Anonymous No.19918616]

>>19914527
fuck off alton nobody's making your gaynigger aluminum foil contraption

[Anonymous No.19918619]

>>19914477
why doesn’t it occur to you to just, you know, turn down the heat a little
fucking npc

[Anonymous No.19918695]

>>19918598
You're right, he should. That clips was a fucking joke.

[Tea No.19918720]

>>19914477
Microwave the chess and bread first and then tost in a pan on till crispy on low heat.

[Anonymous No.19918741]

>>19914477
get a grill pan and use mayo on the faces instead of butter.

[Anonymous No.19918751]

American cheese
Butter on the bread
Medium low heat
Simple as
How the fuck do you mess this up

[Anonymous No.19918772]

>>19918751
>How the fuck do you mess this up
>American cheese

[Anonymous No.19918779]

>>19914477
get a sandwich press. duh

[Anonymous No.19918787]

>>19918751
I'm partial to pepperjack. If I wanted anything meltier I'd add sodium citrate and a little milk to anything, American is one of the worst cheeses. Shit tastes like MSG, whey and wax.

[Anonymous No.19918943]

>>19918582
No one cares. Well, OK you do. But no one important cares.

[Anonymous No.19918951]

I think the problem is that Americans don't have access to good cheese. It's either rubbery cheddar or something to dry. Which is weird because the British make all sorts of good cheese as do Wisconsin and California and Ontario and Québec which are right next door.

[Anonymous No.19918964]

medium - medium/low, about 5 minutes per side
just be patient you fucking autist, great things take time.

[Anonymous No.19919002]

I just tried the Mayo on the bread and the butter in the pan. Wow.

[Anonymous No.19919118]

>>19914477
have you ever thought about adjusting the heat in the middle of making a dish?
start on medium-low, cover with a pot lid until the cheese melts (having the sandwich halves open helps too) and then turn up the heat at the end to get the brownness.

[Anonymous No.19920047]

>>19916031
just overpriced

[Anonymous No.19920350]

>>19914477
gouda cheese

[Anonymous No.19920558]

>>19916205
>Splash of worcestershire
You're putting the woozy on the cheese? That sounds fanfuckingtastic.

[Anonymous No.19920635]

>>19914477
just cover the pan

[Anonymous No.19921516]

>>19914477
I take the cheese out of the fridge and let it warm up a bit before making the sandwich.

[Anonymous No.19921549]

>>19916240
>>19916246

[Anonymous No.19921680]

>>19914798
Wait, there are people that don't mayo on rye grilled cheese?

[Anonymous No.19921692]

>>19915496
Depends on what I'm eating it with. But on its own, I like mozz, cheddar, swiss, and provolone. Sometimes I'll mix cheeses.

[Anonymous No.19921696]

You niggas don't rest and serve your grilled cheese in the pan?

[Anonymous No.19921707]

>>19916205
That's not a grilled cheese / cheese toastie at that point. It's cheese on toast, but it's not a cheese toastie anymore. Sounds good nonetheless.

[Anonymous No.19921716]

>>19918582
>using store bought mayo

[Anonymous No.19921951]

>>19921716
>using home made mayo on a girlcheese sammy