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19852580 No.19852580 [Reply] [Original]

How can I make absolutely SURE that my pork didn't come from pigs who were suffocated in a gas chamber? I've seen the videos and I hate to think about the way they thrash and poke their snouts out of the cages, gasping for air.

>> No.19852654

>>19852580
They should sell pork that has a QR code that takes you to a video of the pork in the gas chamber so you can make sure it was killed

>> No.19852670

>gas chamber for pigs

THATS NOT KOSHER

>> No.19852672

>>19852580
You can buy from a ranch that uses a bullet to the brain instead.

>> No.19852682

>>19852580
Raise the pig yourself, take it to the slaughter yourself or slaughter it yourself.

>> No.19852699

>>19852670
Pork is not but the method is. It is called “CO2 stunning” and is sold as a way to “peacefully” render animals unconscious before the kill shot so they never see it coming. In actuality this results in the animal spending its last conscious moments terrified, confused, unable to breathe, thrashing and gasping for air. If you buy your meat from the grocery store you can bet it was “stunned” like this.

>> No.19852704

>>19852580
buy meat from local farmers and hunters.

>> No.19852705

>>19852580
poor pig dude

>> No.19852727

>>19852699
i don't eat that much meat honestly. I just think it smells bad.

I do drink a shit ton of titty juice though

>> No.19852895

>>19852654
>so you can make sure it was killed
I think it's fair to assume that, when you're looking at the pig's meat cut into pieces in a butcher case, the pig has been killed.

>> No.19852905

>>19852699
Why don't they just smother them with literally any non-toxic gas other than CO2? Nitrogen will smother any mammal without it feeling the sensation of suffocation.

>> No.19852910

>>19852905
Big nitrogen already owns crops, now you want to give them livestock too?

>> No.19852915

>>19852905
The US meat market is a satanic institution that thrives on suffering. It is literally demonic.

>> No.19852947

>>19852895
it's possible to die without being killed

>> No.19852957

>>19852915
>literally

>> No.19852966

Funny, I don't see any wooden doors

>> No.19852979

>>19852910
Don't forget that big nitrogen is trying to return the dinosaurs to the top of the food chain.

>> No.19852984

>>19852947
Livestock that dies of "natural causes" vs. slaughter is illegal to sell. Same goes for (diseased) animals which are slaughtered just before they die of "natural causes".

>> No.19853020

>>19852699
Here they don't even shoot them or use one of those nail guns, they immediately grab them hang them upside down and cut their throat after they are knocked out by the gas. They do millions of them each year like that.

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>>19852915
Your right. But no one cares. Which is why 2024 will be a time of education for those without a clue.

>> No.19853137

>>19852580
>How can I make absolutely SURE that my pork didn't come from pigs who were suffocated in a gas chamber?
the meat won't have gas streaks in it.
simple as.

>> No.19853141

>>19853034
longpig is never off the menu.

sincerely,
war

>> No.19853167

>>19852580
seems like a very inefficient way to kill a pig. I call bullshit. also man up.

>> No.19853179

>>19853034
god i wish those were real humans.

>> No.19853197
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>>19852580
Has it ever occurred to you the price difference and consumer health hazards between that and a captive bolt?

>> No.19853212

>>19852580
>>19852915
This. Go vegan, stop eating meat.

>> No.19853220

>>19852915
I can't tell if this is bait or if some schizoid form /x/ got lost in /ck/ and just decided to roll with it

>> No.19853373

>>19852984
interdesting

>> No.19853385

>>19852915
it's true, they harvest the suffering. also the negative energy attaches to the meat and karmically influences people who consume it (they are party/consenting to the system) thereby perpetuating the sick cycle

>> No.19853523

>>19853385
Don't all animals suffer when they get eaten by another?

>> No.19853818

>>19852905
>Why don't they just smother them with literally any non-toxic gas other than CO2?
CO2 cost almost nothing.
Using expensive non-toxic gas will raise the price for the consumer without adding value to the meat.
>>19853167
It is effective, CO2 is more heavy than air. The pig are placed in a small elevator that descends into the CO2 chamber.

>> No.19853982

>>19852580
Kill them yourself.
If you're too much of a coward for that, stop eating meat.

>> No.19853997

>>19853818
>It is effective, CO2 is more heavy than air. The pig are placed in a small elevator that descends into the CO2 chamber.
Sounds like something the nazis would have done to the Jews in their death camps.

>> No.19854000

>>19853982
Do you realize how impractical having pigs are for most people?

>> No.19854005

>>19854000
>Do you realize how impractical having pigs are for most people?
So raise a cow or bull if you are muslim or jewish.

>> No.19854009

>>19854005
A bull is raising your wife as we speak

>> No.19854456

>pork
Yuck!

>> No.19854463

>>19852905
whenever a question like this comes up you can always assume because of cost effectiveness. if carbon recapture was cheap in large yield we'd be doing a ton of it rn

>> No.19854614

>>19853034
>kwispy

>> No.19854673

>>19854005
>It's impractical to raise a large animal for slaughter for people in urban enviroments
>sO rAiSe CaTtLe, JeW!

>> No.19854689

>>19852699
I wish small farms were still a common thing, instead of a curio for hipsters to buy overpriced "humanely sourced" meat.
Back in the old days, they used to feed pigs one last meal of bread soaked in moonshine and sugar. Knocked them right out, never knew what hit 'em.

>> No.19854711

>>19852699
The vast majority of times, the CO2 will take them out in one or two breaths, before they realise what's happening. These videos are taken from farms that either fucked up the concentration or didn't lower them into it fast enough.

>>19852905
Nitrogen is lighter than air so you can't quickly kill them by lowering them into a gas pit. CO2 actively harms the brain so it's very fast and there's less chance of them popping up fully aware compared to a noble gas that merely deprived the brain of O2 for a bit.

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>>19854673
My brother in christ, you are 95% of the way to having a major breakthrough.

>> No.19855932

>>19852905
CO2 causes brain death faster, there is very little brain activity after unconsciousness

Inert gasses will put them to sleep without stress but the brain will remain active considerably longer after unconsciousness before the animal dies

t. had the same thought a while ago

>> No.19856017

It's hard to know what to believe
People say that the animals are suffering, others say that the examples you see are due to poor practises at a slaughter house
How can I trust that?
Lets assume that it is poor practises, how do I know what is the industry standard? How do I know which slaughter houses are compliant?
When I watch industry disaster videos it seems that it's common for managers and owners to be completely incompetent and cut corners for profit, if it's a pig suffering for a few seconds more why would they care?
They refuse to let people film the slaughter houses
I don't like the propaganda on both sides

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>>19852580
hey now cool it with the anti-semetic remarks

>> No.19857899

>>19852699
Why are you spending even a single second wondering how a pig died? Who cares? It could have been raped to death, that’s not changing how tasty bacon is.
You need a hobby or friends if you think about dumb shit first world problems.

>> No.19857940

>>19853997
do those cattle farms use wooden doors for their gas chambers too?

>> No.19858065

Is gassing really an efficient way to kill animals? Seems like a bitch to setup and maintain while the animals also trash around like mad before they finally die after a minute or more.

Imagine simply adding carbon dioxide in a sealed room with no added oxygen. Wouldn't they get drowsy and doze off until they die of asphyxiation? I guess it depends on how many pigs you gotta kill per hour.

>> No.19858243

>>19858065
i have the same question. there's no way that it is easier to round up pigs and gas them instead of just shooting them in the head. maybe they can even modernize it by using computer vision to automatically shoot at pig heads

>> No.19858287

>>19858243
Eh I can see firearm use being a bitch. Gotta hit the correct spot or waste ammo while the animal suffers a ton too. Lots of potential for something to go wrong.
The butcher bullet gun thing that goes into the forehead seems like the closest thing but it might be a pain to use 500 times a day.

>> No.19858306

>>19852580
Piggies are adorable and very smort, but piggies gotta die to make the bacon

>> No.19858524

>>19858306
What about pigless bacon grown from protein and fat?

>> No.19858652

>>19858524
that's not proper meat you fuckwit. Or bacon.

>> No.19858675

>>19852654
All grocery store meat is halal meaning they brutally slaughter the animal squeezing and all and let it die slowly in excruciating pain while a pedo mufti says Allah Akbar a few times

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>>19852580

>How can I make absolutely SURE that my pork didn't come from pigs who were suffocated in a gas chamber?

>> No.19860052

>>19858652
>proper
Doesn't need to be "proper" (whatever the fuck that means) if it's good.

>> No.19860164

>>19854732
Oh fuck off that retard ruined any point he had the moment he started killing random people instead of industrial giants or anyone that mattered

>> No.19860261

>>19860052
>Doesn't need to be "proper"

for you

>> No.19861360

Gassing the animal must fuck up the meat, no?

>> No.19861431
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>>19852727
I love you, we're like diamonds in the rough

>> No.19861441

>>19858243
Yeah honestly, think about it. Seems like it would be completely unrealistic to gas a large number of pigs in a limited amount of time. Imagine someone places an order for something like 6 million of them? Seems impossible an unlikely.

>> No.19861613

>>19852727
what's wrong with you?

>> No.19861798

>>19857899
Yes it literally does change how well your bacon tastes you dumb retard. Look up the effects of adrenalin and stress on meat quality. The quicker and cleaner the kill, the better the meat

>> No.19861808

How common is this really though? Seems like a remarkably inefficient way to kill something on an industrial level.

>> No.19861890

>>19853818
holy fuck, this thread is full of “I don’t actually know a thing but I’m going to speak with authority and bumble my way through it”
CO2 costs ~50x MORE per unit than nitrogen, assuming CO2 canisters vs nitrogen generators, and the density of air is almost exactly the same as nitrogen because air is 78% nitrogen….no, it’s not the SAME density, but extremely close, and with proper circulation makes the density irrelevant. CO2 death is a violent struggle bc the brainstem has CO2 sensing cells, and is the brain’s first line of defense in respiration (i.e. your brain senses CO2 elevation in the blood long before it senses oxygen deprevation.) Your reptilian brain is absolutely screaming for air while you’re taking your last miserable breaths. Nitrogen deprivation is a slow, comfortable way to die as there is no brain stimulus for air hunger. It simply and slowly drops your total O2 concentration, your heart stops, you die. The sole reason CO2 is used instead of nitrogen in the slaughterhouse is the speed at which it kills the animal. The increased cost per unit for CO2 is outweighed by the speed of the production line.

t. pulmonologist and medical gas expert

>> No.19861894

>>19861808
It's efficient because you can stun a bunch of pigs at once. Put them in a cage, lower it into a pit of CO2 for 90 seconds until they're all unconscious or dead, then cut their throats.

>> No.19861935

terror makes it taste better

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>>19861890
>CO2 canisters

>> No.19863464

They should mark this meat with some kind of tag so I can make sure I'm only buying this.

>> No.19863814

>>19852915
Literally Satan himself is out there in his overalls and straw hat using magic evil beams to grow corn and potatoes, is that right schizo?

>> No.19863992

>>19852580
Factory farming is inherently inhumane and killing an animal to eat i is inherently cruel, but as long as the processors aren't going full Joker mode and torturing the animals I really don't care. If I did care I'd buy from non-Muslim, non-Asian small scale producers and pay $30/lb for chicken but since I don't care I buy the cruel stuff for $1/lb at the store.

>> No.19864040

>>19863992
i disagree

>> No.19864055
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>>19852699
That's an interesting point you bring up but I actually just don't care in the slightest.

>> No.19864070

>>19853212
kill yourself
>>19852699
so?

>> No.19864075

>>19864040
don't care didn't ask plus your cis

>> No.19864085

>>19852670
It's not Halal, as it were, either.

>> No.19864129

>>19853523
I’m not a vegan but what kind of a fucking moron thinks this is a good defence of the meat industry?

>> No.19864136

>>19857940
What’s wrong with wooden doors being used in gas chambers?

>> No.19864473

>>19863814
Each pig that screams in terror as it's gassed, each cow beaten and abused, each baby chick ground up alive, is a sacrifice to satanic evil.

Stop eating factory farmed meats and start going to church. Read the King James Bible.

>> No.19865375

>>19864473
get help

>> No.19865381

>>19864473
god told me to eat them so I eat them
its satanic for me not to give the gifts given unto me by the lord

>> No.19866911

>>19852580
>How can I make absolutely SURE that my pork didn't come from pigs who were suffocated in a gas chamber?
Don't eat pork.