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/ctg/ - Coffee Time General Anonymous Tue Sep 26 22:57:37 2023 No.19743685 [Reply] [Original]

Thread for goffee cupposting https://pastebin.com/2WCB8DyH..

The https://pastebin.com/2WCB8DyH never left edition.

Pastebin: https://pastebin.com/UEzwuyLz

Last thread: >>19730727 https://pastebin.com/2WCB8DyH

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 26 23:00:08 2023 No.19743694 I kneel.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 26 23:00:11 2023 No.19743695 And 3/4 of them are the wrong link. Grats retard.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 26 23:05:13 2023 No.19743709 >>19743685 OP is not mokafrà btw

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 26 23:08:44 2023 No.19743716 File: 1.47 MB, 3874x3024, IMG_7053.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >he used the iPhone filename after I told him to do so Lol >>19743709 Yes it’s not me

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 26 23:10:53 2023 No.19743726 >>19743716 how many ml is your cuppa? 150?

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 26 23:19:08 2023 No.19743749 File: 368 KB, 1109x1109, 1639263098722.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Remember when this general was good?

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 26 23:27:37 2023 No.19743782 >>19743749 No

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 26 23:34:59 2023 No.19743813 Goffee tiem

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 26 23:58:01 2023 No.19743902 >>19743749 /b/ was never good

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 27 00:06:10 2023 No.19743932 >>19743726 250

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 27 00:43:46 2023 No.19744055 File: 1008 KB, 2048x1241, 1666247699738634.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>19743932

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 27 00:57:59 2023 No.19744108 Bros, please instruct me on the secret of good espresso with a flair.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 27 01:00:48 2023 No.19744116 >>19744108 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fykid81iC-Q https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y_-Qxm_2xx0

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 27 01:01:03 2023 No.19744118 >>19744108 Tell me exactly what you're doing and I'll tell you what you're doing wrong. Just turned my heater on.

Anonymous Wed Sep 27 01:05:41 2023 No.19744128

>>19744116
Will watch shortly, thank you.

>>19744118
I've pulled exactly one shot from it so far and it was shockingly bitter but tasteless otherwise.
I think my tamping was uneven, 18g at a fairly fine grind. Had the preheater on the medium setting for a light-medium roast. I noticed Hoffman seems to remove the pressure gauge before pouring the water and put it back in after, but that both seems pointless and needlessly difficult since it comes with the valve that allows the water into the brewing chamber without removing it. I tried to keep it at roughly 9 bars over 35 seconds.
I will admit I'm not as used to espresso as I am filter coffee, but it didn't seem to really have a proper layer of crema and the taste was unpleasant.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 27 01:10:18 2023 No.19744139 File: 135 KB, 1309x1310, ETHIOPIAKOCHERE_1800x1800.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] It's perfect

Anonymous Wed Sep 27 01:22:44 2023 No.19744172

>>19744128
>I noticed Hoffman
Hoffman's video is pre valve plunger. It was a $100 upgrade for us preorder suckers.
>roughly 9 bars over 35 seconds
Grinder coarser. You really don't need 9 bars. I usually top out at 6 on light stuff, but just be open to experimentation. Same with your ratio. Guessing you're pulling a 1:2 to start with. Try a 1:3 and tell me how it tastes. I pull 1:4 since thats about all I can get out of the 58s brew chamber. 16.5:65 in 10-30 depending on what profile I'm running. You want to keep that fill rate consistent. You'll get very different results on a "fast lift" vs "slow lift" with that valve. Lift slow, treat that as part of your initial preinfusion. When you're at the top, pull slow. If you're hitting a brick wall, you're at way too fine of a grind so trying to force through it is just going to make you channel. You're going to be able to feel that puck saturate and loosen up as your first drops come out, thats when you ramp up your pressure.
>but it didn't seem to really have a proper layer of crema and the taste was unpleasant
What coffee are you using and how long off roast? You really don't want crema. Suspended coffee fines trapped in co2 don't taste good.

Anonymous Wed Sep 27 01:39:07 2023 No.19744232

>>19744172
>Guessing you're pulling a 1:2 to start with. Try a 1:3 and tell me how it tastes. I pull 1:4 since thats about all I can get out of the 58s brew chamber.
Stupid question, how exactly are you supposed to measure that? Measuring the coffee is easy, measuring the water is a bit harder since I can't really eyeball the measurement as I'm pouring it in.

Anonymous Wed Sep 27 01:46:07 2023 No.19744254

>>19744232
You put a scale under your cup. The cheap option is a $13 weightman off amazon if you don't have something sitting around. Always want to fill the chamber to full, and then top it off a little until water is above the valve. I fill a little and start raising the arm to crack open the valve while I'm still pouring. Might take a little jiggle at the top to get all the air out. You don't want to be pulling through a bubble at the top of the chamber.
https://www.amazon.com/WEIGHTMAN-Digital-Silicone-Stainless-Included/dp/B07XQS8JL6/

Anonymous Wed Sep 27 01:54:46 2023 No.19744281
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>>19743657
Stop being obsessed with me anon, your life will improve.

People like me, they don’t care about anything but the content and the info I post, which I regularly do unlike you because you’re too busy bitching and compiling the surveillance dossier about me.

I even have nicknames given by other anons, and all I had to do was being myself, nothing else.

It’s all in your head anon, let it go.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 27 01:56:40 2023 No.19744290 >>19744254 Thank you anon, I have a scale that'd be perfect for that. I really appreciate the advice, I'll have to practice a lot more with it when it's not quite as late at night and I can experiment without worrying about the caffeine.

Anonymous Wed Sep 27 02:05:33 2023 No.19744317

>>19744290
Anytime pal, let me know how it goes tomorrow.
>>19744281
> which I regularly do unlike you
Lel. Just last thread I helped two anons with roasting questions, diagnosed and solved the jmax anon's pourovers, and gave rokanon a 10/10 album. I helped you pick out a jxpro back when trabatti stopped responding to your emails.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 27 02:12:21 2023 No.19744345 File: 1.48 MB, 3575x3024, 20230926_203128.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>19744317 >diagnosed and solved the jmax anon's pourovers Hey that was me Getting consistently really tasty results

Anonymous Wed Sep 27 02:22:45 2023 No.19744376
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>>19744345
ayy looking better and better anon. Just remember you paid a premium for those 8.8um steps so use them. Every cup is a chance to dial in further. Give thanks to the kind anon who posted my grinder chart as well.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 27 02:32:54 2023 No.19744401 >>19744139 How're you brewin?

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 27 02:59:27 2023 No.19744456 New kino https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Kzunx7ljHY

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 27 03:07:24 2023 No.19744471 File: 1.07 MB, 2400x1080, Screenshot_20230927-110458.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] New timemore grinder with external adjustment is coming out. Also flat/cone Varia should be announced soon.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 27 03:22:53 2023 No.19744508 I'm not a big coffee drinker but Turkish Coffee sounds appealing. Do I need one of those gay little pots or can I just use a sauce pan?

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 27 03:26:44 2023 No.19744516 >>19744376 Where's the chart?

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 27 03:30:55 2023 No.19744529 >>19744508 Can you even buy preground fine enough for Turkish in America?

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 27 03:36:10 2023 No.19744538 File: 1.02 MB, 6021x464, yoinkv11.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>19744516

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 27 03:48:16 2023 No.19744564 >>19743685 PISS OUT MY ASS

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 27 03:49:32 2023 No.19744567 >>19743749 ah yes pre "anon sitting on top of a black metal table drinking cold brew from a mason jar" /ctg/

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 27 03:51:04 2023 No.19744570 File: 157 KB, 279x360, PippinBoyd.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>19744538 >thats one chart yes but what about the other?

Anonymous Wed Sep 27 04:03:35 2023 No.19744616
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>>19744567
>standing
If only we knew how good we had it back then. I wonder how red timemore cadmiumnon is doing.
>>19744570
The joke is neither of them are charts and noone has pointed that out in a year.

Anonymous Wed Sep 27 04:11:15 2023 No.19744629
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>>19744616
>The joke is neither of them are charts and noone has pointed that out in a year.
>type in chart
>go to images
>second image
looks alot like the grinder chart to me amigo

Anonymous Wed Sep 27 04:17:26 2023 No.19744638
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>>19744629
Thats a table anon. You would use that to organize data, to then generate a graphical representation of what you want to show, i.e a chart. Go ahead and click through to that link and it'll explain. Numbers is Apple's version of Excel.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 27 04:19:51 2023 No.19744640 File: 61 KB, 480x498, apu-hmph.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>19744638 i googled charts and that came up google wouldn't lie to me.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 27 04:52:24 2023 No.19744707 >>19743685 What sort of Moka pot is that?

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 27 05:06:27 2023 No.19744731 >>19744707 a broken one

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 27 05:25:21 2023 No.19744762 >>19744731 >Noooo the only way you could know that is if you doxxed me :(

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 27 05:27:45 2023 No.19744765 >>19744762 i would but the italian "language" disgusts me

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 27 06:01:04 2023 No.19744852 >>19744731 Ahaha, but is it a certain brand??

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 27 06:11:37 2023 No.19744879 >>19744852 i believe it is a giovanni giorgio

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 27 06:15:21 2023 No.19744893 >>19744879 Real funny. Don't lie to the poor lad. >>19744852 Its a Giannini Giannina. Very popular with redditors. https://www.reddit.com/r/mokapot/comments/16kc05z/giannini_giannina_6_cup_experiences/

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 27 06:53:39 2023 No.19744953 >>19744108 step 1, get a machine with a boiler step 2, put flair in cupboard step 3, good espresso

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 27 06:56:03 2023 No.19744961 >>19744345 Every pourover you improve upon brings me joy to see. Enjoy your goffee anon, looks like a good bed there.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 27 08:09:23 2023 No.19745070 >>19744953 filtered

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 27 10:49:11 2023 No.19745245 >>19744471 Is timemore owned by the same people as 1zpresso and kingrinder or is it a separate group?

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 27 10:58:54 2023 No.19745259 What's the most consistent, reliable, and delicious pour over method? I don't care about acidity at all but also I don't want any bitterness or tannic tastes. Also what's the best water temperature for medium roasts?

Anonymous Wed Sep 27 11:06:56 2023 No.19745277

>>19745259
time for some homework choom
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AI4ynXzkSQo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1oB1oDrDkHM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v5WQ1sZzW4o
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YbXbcQEFPOU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0uggibTY0AE
also ignore anything and everything by anyone with the name lance and or hendrick

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 27 12:16:37 2023 No.19745363 Will coffee cure my covid?

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 27 12:18:58 2023 No.19745369 File: 39 KB, 613x1000, 51eo9GE5UML._AC_UF894,1000_QL80_.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Best 60 bucks I spent this month

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 27 12:40:46 2023 No.19745393 >>19745363 In my experience cobbee tastes like utter shit when sick with anything that inhibits your sense of smell, which unfortunately includes the common cold

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 27 12:55:44 2023 No.19745415 >>19745369 Elegtrig turgish gobee maker?

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 27 13:07:48 2023 No.19745439 >>19745415 yes

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 27 13:23:33 2023 No.19745485 >>19745245 Different.

Anonymous Wed Sep 27 13:37:16 2023 No.19745510

>cleaned my disgusting group screen yesterday
>coffee tastes completely different (and better) today
Well I'll be.

>>19744508
>>19744529
You can get a briki/ibrik/cezve for like $10, might as well. You could technically use any other saucepan if you had one narrow enough, but they're generally too wide for the water to cover the grounds well.
You can get Turkish or Greek coffee in specialty shops in most major cities (they normally also sell the pot), but it might not be super fresh.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 27 13:41:48 2023 No.19745518 Will covid cure my coffee?

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 27 13:43:53 2023 No.19745527 >>19745518 In my experience cobbee tastes like utter shit when sick with anything that inhibits your sense of smell, which means that if your cobbee tastes worse than that then covid will bring you up to a slightly less awful baseline

Anonymous Wed Sep 27 13:49:36 2023 No.19745542
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I want to contribute but some fag keeps getting range b& so I can’t post when I’m actually at home making goffee, I gotta shitpost at work instead. On that subject, what do you guys drink out of when you’re not home? Do you have an office mug? I have an insulated cup I got from work that I use every day, I also have some yeti cups that I like. Any nicer options, maybe something with no plastic?

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 27 13:51:46 2023 No.19745551 >>19745542 >when you’re not home? i dont understand the question

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 27 14:27:59 2023 No.19745619 There's big old bags of coffee at Costco for dirt cheap. Obviously they are lower quality and less fresh than buying beans from a roaster, but would there be a substantial difference in quality if I were to use them in a cold brew iced coffee?

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 27 14:30:09 2023 No.19745622 >>19745527 less awful goffee... :)

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 27 15:06:02 2023 No.19745693 1am goff

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 27 15:07:00 2023 No.19745695 >>19745693 as should be.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 27 15:34:03 2023 No.19745788 >>19745277 Cyberpunk sucked choom. Nearly as bad as hoffmeme.

Anonymous Wed Sep 27 15:37:14 2023 No.19745802

I have never felt like such a bitch as I have when trying to grind espresso
This is the second time in as many days I've lost the entire grind to knocking the cup off because I wind up holding the grinder against my body to try to get enough leverage to do it

Anonymous Wed Sep 27 15:40:20 2023 No.19745816

>>19745788
did 150 hours at launch
just clocked another 150 hours post dlc update.
so my brain is full of preem night city slang.
idk i hate the words they changed and i wouldn't recommend the game to anyone but i noticed in my real life i started replacing dude and bro and mate with choom, and cool and awesome with preem.
weird.
new dlc is so good that when you are forced to enter night city for gigs it makes you look around and be like wow yeh this place fucking sucks compared to the new town.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 27 15:41:32 2023 No.19745817 >>19745802 how weak are you? also sounds like you need a vertically cranked bench mounted grinder.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 27 15:42:34 2023 No.19745821 >>19745802 Ah I see you bought the shitty Hario ceramic/plastic one.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 27 15:44:40 2023 No.19745826 >>19745817 Apparently very >>19745821 Nope, it's a good grinder

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 27 15:45:31 2023 No.19745829 >>19745826 >Nope, it's a good grinder name it

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 27 15:46:02 2023 No.19745831 Wait.. new flair 58 owner is mokafrà? kek

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 27 15:46:34 2023 No.19745835 >>19745831 where did you see that.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 27 15:48:15 2023 No.19745839 >>19745835 my dreams

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 27 15:48:44 2023 No.19745842 >>19745829 K6

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Anonymous Wed Sep 27 15:51:53 2023 No.19745858

>>19745842
thats a funny picture anon.
>grinding morning goffee
>pop catch cup when bracing for extra leverage
>coffee grounds cover body, legs, feet, floor and maybe even kitchen bench
>3rd time this week
>look of utter disbelief and amusement of self.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 27 15:53:29 2023 No.19745863 >>19745858 It stops being amusing when it takes you nearly 1 minute per gram

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 27 15:54:45 2023 No.19745867 >>19745863 choom?

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 27 15:55:22 2023 No.19745868 >>19745863 use a drill?

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 27 15:56:20 2023 No.19745870 >>19745868 to me it sounds like user error there is no universe where he is using that grinder properly and it takes 1 minute for 1 gram of coffee.

Anonymous Wed Sep 27 15:58:11 2023 No.19745876

>>19745816
Day 1 after mentally blocking out all the tposing and standing up through roofs of cars I was finally starting to get immersed. Driving down by the "mall" near the legless tygerclaw with some tunes on. My car clipped a trash bag on the side of the road and shot off at a right angle at about 140mph. Immersion gone. Spite completed the game and all gigs by khopping around the map. Launch sucked, 1.6 sucked. Edgerunners sucked but I like old gainax/I.G. so I watched it. But at least you can get virtual espressos in your apartments now. I don't think rebalanced perks and an extra 10 hours of slogging through bad dlc dialogue is worth the ssd space. Time for a non virtual espresso. Guji goro bedessa is smelling heavenly.

Anonymous Wed Sep 27 16:03:49 2023 No.19745890

>>19745868
Tempting

>>19745870
That's about how long it takes
I'm supposed to rotate the lever in a circle, yes? At an espresso-fine grind that takes an inordinate amount of effort to the extent that I finished my current grind by doing it in a 90° back and forth crank, which was significantly easier.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 27 16:04:15 2023 No.19745891 File: 2.57 MB, 360x640, 1667396519243096.webm [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] New kino https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C8RnYVAiP0A

Anonymous Wed Sep 27 16:04:18 2023 No.19745892

>>19745876
>10 hours of slogging through bad dlc dialogue is worth the ssd space
its closer to 20 and its actually alot better than base game.
they front load a ton of the "cool" and things fizzle out near the end of the dlc but i think its worth it.
and yeh same for me just driving around vibing to the radio.
killing random gangs.
best part of the game
and 2.0 made driving alot better.
i hated it at launch and now its just better.
you can "feel" your car by how it moves on the road and takes corners.
not perfect but better.
funny tho, on a timer based side gig my car got caught on fency and it lodged under the rim and launched me to the moon.
builds are better.
i think you should give it a go.
pirate it if you like.

Anonymous Wed Sep 27 16:04:57 2023 No.19745893
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>>19745831
Mokafrà here.

I actually want to buy a Flair but so far I’m more inclined to get a Pro 2 model, even though the 58 would be cool for the baskets and accessories, but spending 550~770€ for a piece of metal with a lever makes me overly mad. I mean even 350€ for the Pro 2 are a lot of money, but at least with that amount there isn’t a decent semi automatic espresso machine, so I’m good.

Give me your opinions on this bros.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 27 16:08:41 2023 No.19745907 >>19745890 >That's about how long it takes https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3hAgWubvdKs this guy is a fag but hes doing 18g in 40 seconds.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 27 16:09:13 2023 No.19745909 File: 927 KB, 540x960, 1677211659044672.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>19745893 second hand market pic rel 450€ if you look around and are patient you can get good deals

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 27 16:10:20 2023 No.19745915 >>19745909 you have done a full tear down and deep clean right anon?

Anonymous Wed Sep 27 16:13:03 2023 No.19745925

>>19745892
>pirate it
Already done. It's worth stacking upload on my tracker, just not worth the time. I might have paid $15 for some opening lifepath dlc instead of a cutscene. My favorite part is when NPCs fall through the floor or into a shipping container and you can't complete the gig.
>>19745909
It took the guy 2 months and spamming here, reddit, and several email addresses to realize his moka pot was broken. I don't think he has the constitution to deal with used equipment.

Anonymous Wed Sep 27 16:14:25 2023 No.19745933

>>19745893
At least in burgerland, the new price of a bambino ($300, saw $275 once) is comparable to a scratch and dent flair pro 2 ($260) and I’m having a hard time deciding which is the better deal. As far as I understand, the flair will give you more control options, doesn’t need electricity, and is fairly portable, but the bambino has steaming, doesn’t need preheating, and is automatic. Food for thought, I guess. Wait were you asking about the pictures?

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 27 16:15:16 2023 No.19745936 >>19745925 welp i think my save file my be fucked. gog wont even launch because it isnt synced and it says my last sync was 54 years ago

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 27 16:17:07 2023 No.19745944 >>19745907 I'm grinding at 20 clicks, he's grinding at 35. I'm not saying the grinder won't do it, I'm saying it's fucking hard.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 27 16:19:59 2023 No.19745952 >>19745944 do you NEED to grind at 20? might want to sell it and invest in a pietro, its about $400 and uses flat burrs. no more bracing against your chest.

Anonymous Wed Sep 27 16:20:25 2023 No.19745954

>>19745936
Pawel is laughing at you. Try The Ascent. Way more cyberpunk than Cyberpunk.
>>19745944
That stopping and starting is fucking your psd by the way. Rpm matters. Once you get a little momentum and beans are cracking, power through. My Kinu got hot to the touch after 18g doses.

Anonymous Wed Sep 27 16:20:54 2023 No.19745956

>>19745909
Not in Italy anon, trust me.
We don’t even have official Flair resellers (or sellers at all).

>>19745933
I was asking about the flair.

CoffeeItalia here sells the bambino plus for 529€ which is a big no since for that money I’d simply add 60-70€ and fetch a Lelit PL81T.

I don’t need to steam milk, it’s not a priority.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 27 16:21:49 2023 No.19745960 Is espresso supposed to taste incredibly overpoweringly sour/bitter compared to filter coffee?

Anonymous Wed Sep 27 16:22:33 2023 No.19745961

>>19745954
>Try The Ascent.
put 90 hours into it, 100% completed it and the dlc. hope they make a second one
and i just had to restart gog, game booted right up.
i couldnt take going in blind so i spoiled the new endings and yeh they all fucking suck, worse than the original imo.
gotta pick the least shitty one i guess.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 27 16:23:26 2023 No.19745963 >>19745956 Also for the price of a Flair 58+ I’d buy this https://www.coffeeitalia.it/p/lelit-victoria-pl91t/

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 27 16:23:31 2023 No.19745964 >>19745960 sounds like someone really fucked up the extraction; sour implies underextraction and bitter implies over, most likely culprit is channelling

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 27 16:23:37 2023 No.19745965 >>19745956 >Not in Italy anon, trust me. >We don’t even have official Flair resellers (or sellers at all). well you have the moka, what else could a man want? >>19745960 no thats called a skill issue.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 27 16:24:07 2023 No.19745969 >>19745964 >>19745965 So what's it supposed to taste like?

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 27 16:25:24 2023 No.19745972 >>19745960 >>19745969 Depends on your beans. My espressos are usually floral, fruity, sweet and very balanced.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 27 16:25:28 2023 No.19745973 >>19745969 depends on way too many factors to list. but usually shit in = shit out. where did this espresso come from, did you make it or was it from a cafe.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 27 16:27:57 2023 No.19745977 >>19745965 >well you have the moka, what else could a man want? I have a moka and an aeropress, I need an espresso machine to close the circle. I’m not sure about getting a v60 or if it’s similar to the aeropress.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 27 16:29:32 2023 No.19745984 >>19745972 Do you need "specialized" beans to make espresso, or will normal coffee work? >>19745973 I made it.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 27 16:32:49 2023 No.19745990 I gave my old bialetti 3 cup to my gf a couple of years back and now I miss it. What's the best 3 cup moka pot nowadays?

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 27 16:34:13 2023 No.19745994 Thanks to whatever anon posted 2 or 3 threads ago about not filling the pourover to the brim and taking it slower. Sometimes you guys are alright.

Anonymous Wed Sep 27 16:34:40 2023 No.19745995

>>19745984
>specialized
to make good coffee, yes you do.
it doesnt say it at the top but this is actually specialty coffee time general
every cafe you go to and probably whatever beans you bought is commodity grade and over roasted. which means burnt, acidic, rubber and chemical tasting and smelling.
the better the beans the better potential your brew has.
then comes tools
and then technique
same goes for any other part of the culinary world
good ingredients
good tools
good technique
and no you won't find good beans at your supermarket.
you will have to go to a roaster online or in person that sells specialty beans.

>>19745990
that would be the E&B Lab 3 cup moka pot with included competition filter.

Anonymous Wed Sep 27 16:36:26 2023 No.19746001

>>19745961
Good shit. I really just don't think cdpr is a good dev. I've tried tw3 several times and it just gets boring so fast.
>Endings
Narratively they're terrible too. Like young adult fantasy book terrible. My other favorite thing about 2077 is how they named a central starting area Kabuki. As in traditional 5 act Kabuki theatre. Then they wrote about an act and 2/3rds of a game.
>>19745984
You can make an extraction out of any beans. "Better" beans will taste better and there are some real good coffees out there. Keep trying. If you don't like what you're drinking there's always something else to source.
>>19745994
No probalo pal. Always glad to help.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 27 16:37:41 2023 No.19746005 >>19745915 i did it on mine yes.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 27 16:43:47 2023 No.19746023 File: 917 KB, 720x960, 1666710293051583.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>19745963 480.- 2nd hand lelit the simonelli >>19745909 is still for sale the pic is from the listing.

Anonymous Wed Sep 27 16:46:49 2023 No.19746032
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>>19745995
>>19746001
I mean beans roasted or selected with the intent of brewing espresso. I'm not trying to use Folgers for it, I have reasonably fresh and quality beans that I ground myself, but they're a light roast that I normally use for pourover. I've gotten good results with pourover out of this bag, but I'm extremely new to espresso and have rarely ever had it outside of a milk drink from a cafe, so my presumptions are basically nonexistent. That's kind of the hard part; I don't know what to expect, so it's difficult to tell what to adjust. I can tell when my filter coffee is overly bitter or sour and know what to fix there, but espresso is somewhat harder.
That said, if you know any quality roasters in the US who do online sales I'm certainly open to recommendations. Espresso or otherwise.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 27 16:48:39 2023 No.19746038 >>19746032 yes lightroast for espresso is tough to handle medium to medium dark is much easier to dial in.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 27 16:48:55 2023 No.19746040 File: 283 KB, 444x960, 1686077055716773.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>19745977 pic rel. 600.- open a café and it basically prints money

Anonymous Wed Sep 27 16:53:20 2023 No.19746050

>>19746032
Print this out and leave it by your machine. Make more espresso. Think about it. The lighter the roast, the harder its going to be to extract. Usually when someone goes on a long winded rant about how fresh and quality their beans are without saying what the beans are, it turns out to be shit coffee.
>rarely ever had it outside of a milk drink
Make some cortados. If you don't like the shot, give it an oz of warm milk.
>any quality roasters in the US who do online sales I'm certainly open to recommendations. Espresso or otherwise
SW Craft, Sey, Proud Mary, Flower Child, Hydrangae, Onyx, Regalia, Kumquat, Intelligentsia

Anonymous Wed Sep 27 16:55:46 2023 No.19746055
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>>19746050
Whoops forgot the link. This is a very simplified take on espresso but it should help start to understand a couple of the "dials" you can adjust in your drink.
https://www.baristahustle.com/blog/the-espresso-compass/

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 27 16:56:55 2023 No.19746058 >>19746032 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-BT7-yOUMDM

Anonymous Wed Sep 27 17:00:19 2023 No.19746068

>>19746040
Ok, now try to open a cafe in Italy.

There are 50000 insane rules and requirements, bureaucracy, insane taxes and stupid rules that are designed to make it difficult for young people to start business.

There’s a reason why my country is the one with the oldest population who will soon be replaced by third worlders.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 27 17:01:38 2023 No.19746071 >>19745893 who the fuck are you faggot

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 27 17:05:39 2023 No.19746088 File: 66 KB, 315x560, IMG_6113.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Wtf

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 27 17:07:59 2023 No.19746095 File: 319 KB, 1080x1080, 6094F924-D7BE-4A84-AD68-5133451DF305.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>19746071 A friend.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 27 17:08:42 2023 No.19746097 File: 3.53 MB, 1326x1326, 1664459946274275.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>19746068 >Ok, now try to open a cafe in Italy. scusami i just happen to transport this machine on my bicycle. would you like a caffè by chance? 2€ e basta.

Anonymous Wed Sep 27 17:09:32 2023 No.19746100

>>19746038
Understood.

>>19746050
>>19746055
>it turns out to be shit coffee.
https://myalmacoffee.com/products/agua-fria is specifically what I used. I'm not enough of an expert to say whether it's good coffee and the stuff I get with pourover isn't the best I've ever had, but it's decent. YMMV
A cortado sounds like a good idea and I'll need to look into a reliable way to steam milk since I'm using a Flair. I have a cheap frothing wand that might work, but we'll see. Thank you very much for the roaster recommendations and the diagram, I'll order a bag or two and post results when I get them in.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 27 17:10:22 2023 No.19746105 >>19745259 Depends on your grinder but I prefer 1 pour v60s with a fine-ish grind When I was still using the encore I just did 3 equal pours and it was consistently good

Anonymous Wed Sep 27 17:15:00 2023 No.19746119
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>>19746097
>pic related appear after 10 seconds
>”let me see your permits, your sanitary procedures, your POS and receipts, your driving license, also your bike doesn’t have lights so I’m fining you 250€”
>”also don’t forget to give 50% of your profits to (((the state)))”

Anonymous Wed Sep 27 17:17:03 2023 No.19746125

>>19746119
No, seriously, Trabatti can go around selling coffee on his bike because he has a license and a registered commercial activity on a fixed shop/building.
It’s the same as Hodeidah, they can use the Apecar to sell coffee on the street/events because of a gimmick, and when they make you a receipt for the coffee you will see the name and the address of the shop in Milano.

Anonymous Wed Sep 27 17:23:22 2023 No.19746139

>>19746100
>to steam milk since I'm using a Flair
I just microwave a small bit of milk so its not fridge cold and fucks with espresso temp whenever I want one. You're not going for texture, just seeing if milk will mask anything you don't like for now.
>alma
Looks like they're owned by honduran farmers and just import shit from their family back home. Cool story, doesn't really matter if you don't like their coffee though. Just glancing through their listings you should probably snag a bag of soulmate. Medium roast, not too fruity, should be easy to extract without blowing out your palate.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 27 17:24:21 2023 No.19746141 File: 3.09 MB, 640x360, 1686785298936182.webm [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>19746119 >>19746125 Was i lied to?!

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 27 17:38:25 2023 No.19746176 >implying coffee was ever real lol

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 27 17:44:29 2023 No.19746188 File: 471 KB, 1125x1900, IMG_6115.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Now that the dust has settled, what’s the verdict on this?

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 27 17:48:23 2023 No.19746195 >>19746188 Translate it from taco language and I will give you my opinion

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 27 17:53:09 2023 No.19746207 >>19746188 commandante ripoff just get a kinu

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 27 18:00:14 2023 No.19746229 >>19746188 For the destitute italian moka market its targeting, they're better off with a mignon crono for the same price.

Anonymous Wed Sep 27 18:02:35 2023 No.19746236

Retarded question
For manual grinders, does the speed or time at which I grind affect the actual result? Like, say, if I set my grinder down or pause in the middle of it, will that damage the consistency of the final grind? I'm unsure of the full details.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 27 18:07:26 2023 No.19746257 >>19746207 >>19746229 Thanks. Also, for the same price 700-800€, is a flair 58 plus that better than a La Pavoni?

Anonymous Wed Sep 27 18:11:34 2023 No.19746274

>>19746236
Rpm will skew your particle distribution. You're aiming for consistency. Feed rate will also affect things. The most hyperautistic coffee people slow feed their beans, so grinding a small amount and taking a little break with a hand grinder shouldn't be the worst thing you can do. Its when you're constantly starting and stopping, making it a 1/2 rotation, then an 1/8th, then 1/4 is where you'll get inconsistency. It won't "ruin" your grind or anything, its just going to be harder to repeatedly do the same random motions from cup to cup. You are the motor. Good motors don't drop rpm. Try not to be a shitty motor.

Anonymous Wed Sep 27 18:20:17 2023 No.19746293

>>19746257
You couldn't pay me to daily drive a pavoni. Some people get a kick out of using quirky obsolete tools you have to temp surf and guess timings, others want to make good coffee. Flair58s are dead simple and thats a good thing. If your heater ever burns out you can still manually preheat it like the 58x and others+the whole chamber detaches with one set screw if you had to get a replacement from them. No ripping machines apart, redoing wiring, descaling lines, replacing boilers or pumps etc etc. Its just a hot stainless steel tube ready in minutes whenever you need it. At most you'll need to replace some cheap orings every once in a while.

Anonymous Wed Sep 27 18:23:23 2023 No.19746303

>>19746274
>The most hyperautistic coffee people slow feed their beans, so grinding a small amount and taking a little break with a hand grinder shouldn't be the worst thing you can do.
That actually seems like the ideal for me because I'm a fucking pussy and fine grinds are hard with more than a couple of grams at a time

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 27 18:25:32 2023 No.19746306 File: 39 KB, 537x1024, 1695825606255955m.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Germany is banning coffee What are we going to do bros?????????????

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 27 18:26:07 2023 No.19746308 >new IP >phoneposter epic shitpost

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 27 18:27:32 2023 No.19746312 >>19746308 I get banned daily for racism

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 27 18:29:42 2023 No.19746315 >>19746303 Try a half dose and tilt your grinder 45deg to slow the feed a bit.

Anonymous Wed Sep 27 18:29:49 2023 No.19746317
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>>19745956
>bambino plus
I was referring to the regular bambino, which is apparently not on coffeeitalia, but I found it on pastaland amazon, might be an option even if you don’t use the steam wand

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 27 18:46:55 2023 No.19746365 File: 2.46 MB, 854x480, 1686750783802111.webm [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>19746188

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 27 18:50:16 2023 No.19746372 >>19746365 Why does that dude have a boner?

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 27 18:58:13 2023 No.19746391 >>19746372 I think that's just moose knuckle but regardless, thanks for making me stare at it for like 3 minutes.

Anonymous Wed Sep 27 19:03:58 2023 No.19746414

This is autistically specific but thank you to whichever anon recommended S&W Roaster about 2 threads back. I gave them a look and the prices were good. The Ethiopian Wuri has hands down been one of the most interesting cups I've had in quite some time, flavor went from lightly nutty (no bitterness whatsoever) at one temp, to juicy, lightly fruity, and then back to choccy when the temp dropped more. Price was shockingly reasonable too so there's that.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 27 19:05:01 2023 No.19746416 >>19746414 Dont know why I repeated myself there, I'm zonked. Need to make myself a goff goddamnit.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 27 19:13:59 2023 No.19746445 >>19746293 Thanks anon, you convinced me. With that said, I need to decide between Pro 2 and 58 plus model. 300€ difference is a lot, but that 58 portafilter is cool to have in the long run.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 27 19:15:00 2023 No.19746452 File: 714 KB, 1080x1080, trabahddi.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>19746306 >thebarnfag on suicide watch Hahahahahahaha The Alberto Trabatti king of European Coffee timeline shall start soon.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 27 19:16:01 2023 No.19746456 >>19746317 Huh I never seen the bambino on Amazon, thank you anon.

Anonymous Wed Sep 27 19:24:19 2023 No.19746476

>>19746414
Glad you liked the rec. I shill him because he really should be charging $5 more a bag. That wuri grade 0 was fantastic. I managed to snag some of the washed and natty greens of it. Did you try either of the others? I'm still thinking about that ayarza wine natty.
>>19746445
18 hours ago you were crying, now I get thanks.
>the info I post, which I regularly do unlike you
>>19746452
This is why I don't help italians. Ingrato.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 27 19:29:40 2023 No.19746491 >>19746476 The filenames, anon. Look at the filenames. It's not him.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 27 19:33:17 2023 No.19746499 >>19746491 One of them is, and I specifically rec'd thebarn to the mokaschizo back before he had a grinder. He reeee'd at the price and has been bringing it up since.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 27 19:42:21 2023 No.19746531 >>19746476 I also got the sampler with Malawi, Kenya Thuti, and Columbia Huila, but I haven't cracked those bags open yet. Looking forward to trying them later this week.

Anonymous Wed Sep 27 19:59:22 2023 No.19746587

>>19746293
Can second this
I got a refurbished 58 and the valve in the brew chamber where the pressure gauge hooks into was improperly set by the previous owner so it wasn't pulling back up with the lever. Realigning it took no time at all, and from my rather clumsy experience setting it up it seems like the entire package is extremely easy to maintain and repair/replace.
My only real qualm is that the cable doesn't completely detach from the main brew chamber so if something happens to the "pigtail" you'd have to replace the entire thing, but that's a small point of failure and it's not in a position where it'll be subjected to much wear anyway.

Anonymous Wed Sep 27 20:14:24 2023 No.19746631
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>>19746587
>where the pressure gauge hooks into was improperly set by the previous owner
Nah they just rotate on the orings a little bit. Every 15-20 shots I have to turn it back around. Thats what this black key is for if you got one in the box.
https://flairespresso.com/product/flair-58-plunger-key/

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 27 20:39:28 2023 No.19746695 File: 7 KB, 145x144, Screenshot_20230927_153900.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] What's this thing called

Anonymous Wed Sep 27 20:47:03 2023 No.19746717

>>19746695
Dosing tray, stolen from chinese tea ceremonies. Called a "cha he" in the tea world. You can get them for a couple bucks on amazon or aliexpress. Good for weighing, good for spritzing.
https://www.loveramics.com/products/champions-signature-set-of-2-beans-dosing-trays

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 27 20:57:06 2023 No.19746748 >>19746717 Thank you, I do not need this at all but I'm buying one anyway.

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 28 00:08:48 2023 No.19747413 File: 124 KB, 1443x1419, 61TrVZV4FYL._AC_SL1500_.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Bump

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 28 00:49:56 2023 No.19747525 >>19747413 You also get the suitcase?

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 28 01:24:15 2023 No.19747592 Massive newfag here, just installed the 9 bar OPV on a gaggia classic so wish me good brewing lads

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 28 01:27:29 2023 No.19747599 >>19747592 Good luck and report back

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 28 01:43:40 2023 No.19747639 >>19747592 Good luck anon. Sipping on some blanched ethiopian shots and listening to nudisco. Hopefully it the 9bar life brings you a little closer to bliss. https://youtu.be/8dLtH-EnlPM

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 28 02:41:18 2023 No.19747758 File: 156 KB, 465x392, 1512267811356.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>19747413 >That machine Looks awesome but is it good?

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 28 02:48:46 2023 No.19747783 >>19747758 not $900 good

Anonymous Thu Sep 28 03:03:21 2023 No.19747807

Having trouble brewing with good coffee. For reference, I tend to drink shitty coffee because it's cheap and I don't mind the bitterness. I normally brew with a V60 and get pretty good beds but every time I try with nicer coffee it turns into mud. Tried all sorts of grind settings, but it doesn't seem to matter much. Are fresher beans just more likely to produces fines? It there any way around this?

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 28 04:43:50 2023 No.19748038 File: 2.21 MB, 638x426, the-simpsons-homer.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>19747525 no

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 28 04:45:54 2023 No.19748045 >>19747807 post equipment, bed and beenz please :3

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 28 04:58:15 2023 No.19748064 File: 3.65 MB, 4204x3979, 20230927_202200.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Post your beans

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 28 05:52:28 2023 No.19748174 >>19747807 What grinder are you using?

Anonymous Thu Sep 28 05:58:13 2023 No.19748187

>>19747807
Post all the information on your setup.
>beans
>grinder
>scale if applicable
>technique if you're using one you got from elsewhere (you probably should be)
>kettle type (normal, gooseneck)
>typical ratio/quantity per brew
The most likely candidate is that you have either an inconsistent grinder or are having an issue with your technique/ratio.

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 28 06:42:52 2023 No.19748265 How acidic should medium roasts beans be? Thought of trying to get it closer to dark roast. I've grinded to fine and brewed for 10 minutes with 98°C water. It's 15g with 200g of water and still has some acidity.

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 28 06:44:06 2023 No.19748266 File: 645 KB, 528x602, roast.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>19748064 not long finished roasting them. phone why you no focus.

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 28 07:16:32 2023 No.19748300 File: 874 KB, 1776x1184, 4.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>19748064

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 28 08:45:52 2023 No.19748412 >>19748265 depends on the roast whats your method

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 28 09:03:36 2023 No.19748439 ITS UP! >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3uiycP3phl4 new weber kino >the audio is totally fucked up sigh

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 28 09:50:14 2023 No.19748496 >>19746119 I hate the government so much it's unreal.

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 28 09:59:11 2023 No.19748506 File: 70 KB, 310x400, 1648736446064.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>19747413 lol what a useless hunk of junk the same flaws as a flair classic (multiplied by size), but the prize of a flair58+

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 28 10:02:24 2023 No.19748507 >>19748506 >prize

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 28 10:02:33 2023 No.19748508 >>19748439 I don't even want to know the price. Thankfully I'm only drinking 1 cup/day so I'm just fine with a 200 bucks handgrinder that will probably outlive me.

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 28 10:04:40 2023 No.19748511 >>19748508 $2k usd not bad. about $500 more than the hand grinder version.

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 28 10:04:47 2023 No.19748512 >>19748507 I have made a spelling mistake, please allow me to cut open my belly!

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 28 10:06:34 2023 No.19748514 >>19748511 damn. I really should have kept my bitcoins :')

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 28 10:09:58 2023 No.19748520 Anyone know if any lidl coffee is decent?

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 28 10:10:36 2023 No.19748521 >>19748512 >he wasn't passively mining dogecoins for years and dumped when they went from 0.001 to 0.03 made off like a bandit >>19748520 no its all trash, sorry.

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 28 11:01:58 2023 No.19748597 File: 462 KB, 640x770, 1672201850108065.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >his goff isn't structurally sound might as well end it

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 28 11:02:27 2023 No.19748598 >>19748597 I only drink non-newtonian goffee

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 28 11:04:05 2023 No.19748601 >>19748598 as should be.

Anonymous Thu Sep 28 12:22:05 2023 No.19748711
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>>19748174
>>19748187
>Beans
8 o'clock do well for me, stuff like Counter Culture roasts (particularly Hologram) are giving me trouble
>Grinder
OXO Conical Burr Coffee Grinder
>Scale
Ozeri Pronto
>Technique
April or 4:6 method
>Kettle type
Hario Buono 1.0L
>Typical brew ratio
13:250 for lighter or 16:300 for darker

I grind the 8 o'clock on the 5 setting but I've tried the others on everything from 4-6

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 28 12:24:36 2023 No.19748715 File: 103 KB, 951x900, hey_worms_lmao_check_out_my_fuckin_uhhhh.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>19748711 meant for >>19748045 too sorry, can't post bed photos

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 28 12:35:56 2023 No.19748734 >>19745995 >E&B Lab 3 cup moka pot Is the moka pot really worth it or should I just get the filters separately and get a cheaper moka pot?

Anonymous Thu Sep 28 12:41:01 2023 No.19748747

>>19748734
its a solid construction and feels good to use.
i have used a few cheapo generic moka pots and they always feel wrong to be consuming liquid from.
i mean their competition filter is the main difference so if you already have a moka you like or dont care about build quality then yeh just the filter is fine.

Anonymous Thu Sep 28 12:48:23 2023 No.19748766

>>19748747
> and they always feel wrong to be consuming liquid from
I know that feel. I'm still sceptic about aluminum despite despite appreciating better heat distribution. I guess I'll just go for it.

On another note, I just checked my tap water and it's 361 ppm CaCO3. I don't think Britta filters are enough...

Anonymous Thu Sep 28 13:00:07 2023 No.19748801

>>19748711
My JX pro grind chart states moka range from 2.4.0 to 3.0.0 while I usually grind in the high espresso range at 1.6.0

I tried out of curiosity grinding @ 2.4.0 with a medium roast and the goffee was washed out and both acidic and a bit bitter.

These charts are fucking useless.

Anonymous Thu Sep 28 13:18:32 2023 No.19748833

>>19748766
if your worry comes from hearing that aluminium gives Alzheimer's or some shit you can rest easy that that scientist and his work was found to be fraudulent and he didnt actually have any evidence to prove his claims.
because if it was true we would see early onset Alzheimer's being seen as worse than cancer and have tens of millions more cases than we already do.
also that chart is probably wrong and your grinder is shit. sorry.

Anonymous Thu Sep 28 14:04:35 2023 No.19748905

>>19747639
Thanks for the album rec my man, incredible vibe. I’ve been big on Cal Tjader lately myself

https://youtu.be/KVf8_z145us?si=ZeHLuOoor2bVogAj

>>19747599
Goffee was all around terrible, but a lot less bad than at the standard 15 bar. My shots came out way too fast/slow when bouncing between grind settings, so I think my old non-espresso grade grinder is the issue. I’ll be upgrading in the next week or so

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 28 14:06:41 2023 No.19748910 >>19748905 >standard >15 bar

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 28 14:17:45 2023 No.19748924 Does /ctg/ hate Comandante now and prefer the chink knockoffs?

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 28 14:44:37 2023 No.19748961 >>19748924 People don't hate comandate, it's just that the chink grinders were most of the way there for half the price, and for the price of a comandante you could delve into the cheaper kinu models instead.

Nigger MOD is mad pussy lol permbanned all bitch lmao Thu Sep 28 14:51:57 2023 No.19748974 [DELETED]

>>>/vg/447875110
Artificial Academy 2 General /aa2g/ #1293
Ready to Serve Edition

Welcome, this general is for the discussion of ILLUSION's Artificial Academy 2.

COPY ERROR MESSAGES WITH CTRL+C, PASTE THEM WITH CTRL+V INTO GOOGLE TRANSLATE. JUST CLICK THE WINDOW AND PRESS CTRL + C, IT WORKS.

>Downloads:
/aa2g/ Pre-Installed Game, AA2Mini: https://tsukiyo.me/AAA/AA2MiniPPX.xml
AAUnlimited updates: https://github.com/aa2g/AA2Unlimited/releases

>Information:
AA2Mini Install Guide:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/e/2PACX-1vS8Ap6CrmSNXRsKG9jsIMqHYuHM3Cfs5qE5nX6iIgfzLlcWnmiwzmOrp27ytEMX03lFNRR7U5UXJalA/pub
General FAQ:
https://web.archive.org/web/20200216045726/https://pastebin.com/bhrA6iGx
AAU Guide and Resources (Modules, Tans, Props, Poses, and More):
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/17qb1X0oOdMKU4OIDp8AfFdLtl5y_4jeOOQfPQ2F-PKQ/edit#gid=0

>Character Cards [Database], now with a list of every NonOC in the megas:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1niC6g-Xd2a2yaY98NBFdAXnURi4ly2-lKty69rkQbJ0/edit#gid=2085826690
https://db.bepis.moe/aa2/

>Mods & More:
Mods for AAU/AA2Mini (ppx format, the mediafire has everything):
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/vwrmdohus4vhh/Mods
/aa2g/ Modding Reference Guide (Slot lists for Hair/Clothes/Faces, List Guides, and More):
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1gwmoVpKuSuF0PtEPLEB17eK_dexPaKU106ShZEpBLhg/edit#gid=1751233129
Booru: https://aau.booru.org

>HELP! I have a Nvidia card and my game crashes on startup!
Try the dgVoodoo option in the new win10fix settings.
Alternative: Update your AAU and see if it happens again. If so, disable win10fix, enable wined3d and software vertex processing.
>HELP! Required Windows 11 update broke things!
winkey+R -> ms-settings:developers -> Terminal=Windows Console Host

Previous Thread:
>>>/vg/445943839
nigger mod is an angry spearchucker lol you couldn't catch us. How does it feels, bitch cocksucker for life.

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 28 14:52:55 2023 No.19748979 >>19748974 lmao

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 28 14:54:15 2023 No.19748982 I liked iced "coffee" drinks from places like Starbucks but I realized that I don't like actual coffee

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 28 14:57:08 2023 No.19748995 >>19748974 Coffee?

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 28 14:57:29 2023 No.19748996 >>19748982 good

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 28 14:58:24 2023 No.19749000 >>19748996 Yeah it made me feel kind of ill and made me unable to sleep properly. Shame about buying the equipment, though.

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 28 15:21:26 2023 No.19749043 >>19748961 Yeah just a bit of a shame it's either the chink ones or Kinu. Is Kinu that much better than Comandante?

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 28 15:24:16 2023 No.19749049 Good morning, coffee bros, time to brew

Anonymous Thu Sep 28 15:29:40 2023 No.19749061

So I'm just trying to make sure I'm right

We have a dual boiler breville, we are trying to pull shots but they keep coming out super fast and barely reaching 5 bar on the gauge. This is a grind issue right?
We have the breville grinder and I know it's really not ment for espresso but I want to be sure

Anonymous Thu Sep 28 15:35:42 2023 No.19749072

>>19743685
What's the best Moka Pot I can buy? The lid on mine is breaking and it's about 10 years old. Should I just get a regular aliminum Bialetti? I've hear aluminum can cause alzheimer's. Should I get a stainless steel one instead like my current one? If so, which manufacturer should I purchase from?

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 28 15:44:50 2023 No.19749093 >>19749072 >>19748833

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 28 15:45:52 2023 No.19749097 >>19749061 when was the last time you did a proper deep clean of it? like all the inside pipes and shit.

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 28 15:52:33 2023 No.19749111 >>19748910 A 15 bar OPV comes standard on the gaggia classic dumbass, everyone replaces it

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 28 15:55:34 2023 No.19749115 >>19749111 isnt brewing at 15 bar only going to make shit coffee? btw, kill yourself.

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 28 16:14:11 2023 No.19749151 >>19749043 A lot of people consider the m47 to be the pinnacle of hand grinders, and the other models are basically just the m47 but with slightly worse materials.

Anonymous Thu Sep 28 16:31:53 2023 No.19749182

>>19748766
>On another note, I just checked my tap water and it's 361 ppm CaCO3. I don't think Britta filters are enough...

Britta filters suck, you need to get ZERO WATER filters. They reduce everything to 0-2ppm. They instruct you to replace the filters once it gets above 6ppm and they include a tester with every pitcher

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 28 16:32:13 2023 No.19749183 >>19749111 I do make shit coffee but that’s beside the point. I believe gaggia uses 15 bar because it works better for pressurized baskets/preground coffee users

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 28 16:35:22 2023 No.19749188 >>19748412 It's immersion.

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 28 17:11:00 2023 No.19749271 >>19749097 Like a month ago? We can hit 9 bar if we use a pressurized basket so I'm assuming I has to be grind

Anonymous Thu Sep 28 17:22:01 2023 No.19749306

>>19748711
I've never used that grinder but I'd be willing to bet it's just as bad as the baratza encore in terms of fines

Try going coarser and stick to 4:6 IMO. Back when I had a worse grinder 4:6 with a coarse grind was the only way to get a good cup

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 28 18:15:45 2023 No.19749451 >>19749188 shoulda figured from the ten minute brew time i guess are you trying to avoid the acidity or are you just curious about what youve got? your roaster probably knows more than i do about that

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 28 18:18:23 2023 No.19749457 wait have you been talking about roasting your own beans this whole time

Anonymous Thu Sep 28 18:35:09 2023 No.19749502

>>19749061
>>19749271
How old are the beans you're trying to use?
>>19749043
It's just a different style. Kinus were just as expensive as comandante, until Kinu had a factory fire and had to move some units quickly for cash flow. So they made the m47 classic a little worse in terms of build and sold it for $150 less as the Kinu phoenix. Meanwhile comamdante's new c60 is going to run like $600 so they'll continue to have their lunch eaten by china.
>>19749457
Y-yes..

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 28 18:38:02 2023 No.19749507 >>19749502 lol my bad i cant help ya though besides offering my two cents that i like a bit of acid in my medium roasts, just enough to taste it through some steamed milk

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 28 20:03:24 2023 No.19749711 How do I know when its time to clean my grinder vs my grind / technique is bad?

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 28 20:05:58 2023 No.19749716 goffeebros... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ez92rrLjVao

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 28 20:08:16 2023 No.19749722 >>19749716 >Coffe :\| >Coffe, Japan :O

Anonymous Thu Sep 28 21:56:43 2023 No.19749956

>>19743685
Hooked on my chemex. Do I need anything else? I'm saving up for one of those manual espresso machines, but in the meantime, is it worth investing in other non-espresso brew methods (like aeropress or mokapot), or am I better off just getting in pour-over practice with what I've got?

Anonymous Thu Sep 28 22:13:55 2023 No.19749993

Is onyx worth the cost? I'm looking to get my first quality bean. I noticed it in the pastebin because one of my coworkers was talking about how much he loved his 10oz/week sub. Anons who've had their coffee, are they a good place to start, or would you recommend someone else?

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 28 22:43:24 2023 No.19750076 >>19749993 It's fine. I'd recommend finding a local roaster and visiting them for coffee if you can.

Anonymous Thu Sep 28 23:07:58 2023 No.19750129

>>19749993
They're bretty gud. Check out s&w roasting tho. Way smaller operation. Every anon I've recc'd them to here has loved his shit. Very good prices.
>>19746414
>>19746531
https://www.swroasting.coffee/shop/single-origin-coffees-lighter-roasts-/2

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 28 23:11:14 2023 No.19750135 >>19749993 i enjoyed their single origin sample box and plan on ordering again since they're out of the beans they sent. quality beans from a good roaster.

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 28 23:21:06 2023 No.19750155 >>19750076 >>19750129 >>19750135 Ended up getting 10oz each of their Geometry and Monarchy beans. I’ll try s&w when I’m out since people here recommend it sometimes.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 29 00:21:59 2023 No.19750323 >>19749956 If you're happy with what you have just stick with it for pourover. I regret fucking around buying all sorts of different pour over things and they're really not very different.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 29 00:48:55 2023 No.19750402 >>19749502 The beans were like 2 months old? I have fresher ones unopened that I will dig into now that we used up the last of the others>>19749457

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 29 01:20:07 2023 No.19750494 A bunch of breville espresso machines are on sale locally, should I consider one?

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 29 01:23:32 2023 No.19750507 >>19750494 yes

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 29 01:28:51 2023 No.19750524 >>19750494 Potentially, they have some very good value ones depending on what you want vs what you spend

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 29 03:19:18 2023 No.19750937 File: 202 KB, 891x949, 1684200863098667.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >yes, goy-san, all our filters are the same >the ones with the tab are totally fine, goy-sama Fastrack to shit pourover. Paper filters in the 30-pack or bust.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 29 03:46:46 2023 No.19751007 >>19750937 What's the issue with the ones that have the tab? (Yes I have some of those, that's why I'm asking).

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 29 03:49:34 2023 No.19751011 >>19751007 Absolute terrible filtration. They're too thick and result in weak pours regardless of grind. Only the unbleached hario filters are worth it.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 29 03:51:43 2023 No.19751019 >>19751007 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0uggibTY0AE

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 29 04:00:24 2023 No.19751039 File: 3.01 MB, 3024x4032, 1673224089979640.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>19745542 I use my yeti that I got as a company gift. It like all thermoses make the taste not as great but it works so just keep using it

Anonymous Fri Sep 29 06:04:02 2023 No.19751275

>>19745542
I have a Fellow Carter that I quite like because I don't tend to want to drink coffee on the drive to work - which it isn't suitable for because it's bigger than most cupholders and it's screw top - but it's nice to drink out of when I get to work and take the top off and drink from it like a normal cup or mug. A fair few people have reported odd smells out of theirs, I haven't and I've had it for two or three years but it's worth pointing out. It's also sized for an aeropress to sit in which is useful. Lately though I've been trying a Loveramics Nomad because I like their cups for drinking at home. It's nice to drink from and also fits an aeropress but I completely neglected to think about the size of it vs the height under my portafilter for my espresso machine, and it's a tight squeeze - I can't get it in there on a scale so I have a button programmed for that cup only which isn't ideal but works okay.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 29 07:10:02 2023 No.19751364 For the same price is there anything as good as the flair pro 2 aside from a heavily modded gigga? I don't know another machine that allows such control over pressure and everything else

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 29 07:26:12 2023 No.19751393 File: 2.94 MB, 720x480, exdosflair.webm [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>19751364 Picopresso if you're a sadist. Otherwise not really. The ability to pull "modern" flow controlled decent profiles for a couple hundo is ridiculous.

Anonymous Fri Sep 29 10:44:15 2023 No.19751698

Decided to try dark roast beans for the first time and I’m not sure if they’re meant to be this bitter even though I’m brewing with 80c-85c. Are dark roasts supposed to taste this burnt? Where the hell is all the “marshmallow” and “dark chocolate” notes lmao I want to kill these coffee tasters.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 29 10:49:56 2023 No.19751707 >>19751364 Depends on what your priorities are maybe a bambino. Doesn't have the pressure control but it is automatic and it's got a pid and steam wand and shit.

Anonymous Fri Sep 29 11:13:25 2023 No.19751735

>>19751698
>Are dark roasts supposed to taste this burnt?
yes
thats the point
dark roasts exist to hide the flaws in low quality coffee.

and anon, rule 1 of buying coffee is to NEVER ever read or give a shit about the "notes" make your own mind up about how it tastes.
buy based on details not subjective opinions.

Anonymous Fri Sep 29 11:25:50 2023 No.19751766

>>19751011
>>19751019
Thanks for the info, I'll be sure to do more research the next time I buy some filters. Tons of options. I got lucky, the pack of v60 filters I have were the made in Japan ones, which I suppose is why my brews have been clocking in around the ~3 minute range and not really any longer.

Anonymous Fri Sep 29 13:54:51 2023 No.19752023
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reporting back on the 100 pajeet monsooned robusta. can't dinstinctively taste peper nor licorice, like if it would not be written i wouldn't have thought about it. beans taste like tasty robusta, with nutty, woody, smoky, and chokky flavours. you can tell it's in the more tastier range of robustas as it lacks the rubber and chemical taste and aftertaste of shittier beans. nutty is the flavour that's most present for me.
great goff to start the day.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 29 14:01:29 2023 No.19752035 >>19752023 >can't dinstinctively taste peper nor licorice, like if it would not be written i wouldn't have thought about it. we've been over this anon.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 29 14:20:32 2023 No.19752061 >>19752035 last thread or two an anon wanted to know if i could clearly taste the "notes" and told him i'd first dial the beans before judging. worry not, your message is understood loud and clear.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 29 14:24:47 2023 No.19752069 >>19751735 Go eat the beans raw you pretentious knob

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 29 14:28:16 2023 No.19752078 >>19752069 >pretentious retard.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 29 15:32:43 2023 No.19752214 >>19749716 She's Yuka, but she's no Kinoshita https://youtu.be/J0AfhS3w13g?si=52AtfsRGzQhN4loC Man, remember that Dalgona trend. It actually tasted kinda shitty

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 29 15:34:52 2023 No.19752221 >>19752214 i mean it was just instant coffee, sugar and water.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 29 15:38:06 2023 No.19752235 >>19752221 The instant coffee tastes too intense, you had to really dilute it so it's not yucky

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 29 15:40:00 2023 No.19752246 File: 178 KB, 1000x667, IMG_2971.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Drinking shitty coffee and watching a replay of the 2023 24 hours of Le Mans bros

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 29 15:40:51 2023 No.19752250 >>19752246 like the whole 24h replay?

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 29 15:42:50 2023 No.19752261 File: 911 KB, 3600x1575, IMG_2887.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>19752250 Yes

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 29 15:46:33 2023 No.19752274 >>19752246 >>19752261 very based

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 29 15:54:44 2023 No.19752311 the only good vehicle racing is motogp everything else is boring and slow

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 29 16:10:32 2023 No.19752350 File: 156 KB, 1200x800, IMG_2853.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>19752311 I disagree

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 29 16:14:34 2023 No.19752359 >>19751393 >385€ for a piece of stainless steel with a piston I feel like I’m being robbed

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 29 16:15:01 2023 No.19752360 >>19752359 you are

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 29 16:19:20 2023 No.19752375 >>19752360 Yeah but I don’t want an automatic machine with lines that needs deep cleaning and descaling, I want to keep things simple and clean so the flair is really my only option for quality espresso.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 29 16:19:44 2023 No.19752376 >>19743685 test

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 29 16:23:11 2023 No.19752387 >>19752350 look how slow this image is you cant even see it moving

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 29 16:23:50 2023 No.19752388 File: 514 KB, 498x269, IMG_5425.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>19752376 MOOOOOOOODS!!!

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 29 16:23:54 2023 No.19752389 >>19752376 Congratulations on evading your ban >>19752387 Kek

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 29 16:35:37 2023 No.19752418 >>19752376 >thebarnfag evading his ban Sad.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 29 16:40:28 2023 No.19752434 how do I make husband pleasing coffee?

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 29 16:40:34 2023 No.19752435 File: 1.21 MB, 919x1226, 1682093645883628.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] is the grind too coarse? tastes watery compared to last time

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 29 16:44:54 2023 No.19752450 >>19752435 Mmm delicious coco powder

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 29 16:53:02 2023 No.19752472 >>19752450 by it's nature, coco powder is a powder. too fine? i don't have the proper filter papers so it's hard to follow Ass' recipe

Anonymous Fri Sep 29 17:01:31 2023 No.19752492
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>>19752472
Cacao powder can clump a bit into larger chunks, which is what it reminded me of. It's plenty coarse, if it tastes watery go finer or increase water temp if you're not already brewing with boiling water, an "empty" taste is a sign of underextraction.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 29 17:03:28 2023 No.19752499 >>19752435 this looks super clumpy so its hard to tell exactly how fine it is.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 29 17:13:26 2023 No.19752528 >>19752492 >benquick 75% of isn't cacao. cacao powder is 99.9% cacao in a powder format otherwise you would not call it powder.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 29 17:15:36 2023 No.19752536 >>19752360 Elabor8

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 29 17:19:06 2023 No.19752556 >>19752418 Can't afford good beans or espresso essentials. Keep on seething. >>19752311 Kek. Never thought I'd post this here. Nicky Hayden is(was?) my cousin.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 29 18:16:41 2023 No.19752737 >>19751735 >buy based on details So just stuff like region, altitude, and such?

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 29 18:28:41 2023 No.19752789 >>19752737 Yeah but also you're start to learn what the tasting notes are referring to. Anyone who says the notes are complete bullshit either has a skill issue, equipment issue, or both.

Anonymous Fri Sep 29 18:37:59 2023 No.19752818

>>19752789
holy fucking dunning kruger
even if you drinking the exact same coffee as the person writing the notes you would give different notes.
and the odds that you at home have made even a remotely similar coffee as the note writer is insanely small.
sure you can get a vibe but tasting notes should never be the reason why you buy a coffee or should even be looked at before tasting it yourself.
because its just leading to failure
how many times have we seen here new fags talk about how they cant taste anything that the tasting notes say?
but if you get experienced with learning regions, altitude, variety, process, if fermented the type of fermentation, roast, you will already know more than the notes could ever tell you.
actually fucking kill yourself and stop posting misinformation in this thread faggot.

Anonymous Fri Sep 29 18:53:51 2023 No.19752856
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>>19752818
>tasting notes should never be the reason why you buy a coffee or should even be looked at before tasting it yourself
I read the tasting notes of coffee greens, I roast the beans to my liking. Beans taste like they said. Dunno what to tell you pal.
>new fags talk about how they cant taste anything that the tasting notes say
Its mostly a shitty tap water issue.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 29 18:54:09 2023 No.19752859 File: 197 KB, 2520x1420, IMG_8435.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] For me, it’s rally

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 29 19:02:28 2023 No.19752889 >>19752859 Are you Finnish The Finn’s like rally and coffee desu

Anonymous Fri Sep 29 19:09:13 2023 No.19752918

>>19752856
>greens
why are you injecting yourself into a conversation you cannot contribute to you fucking moron
this is about ALREADY ROASTED BEANS
and how do you know you are not being influenced by the tasting notes
if you are at an art gallery and before you see a painting the artist tells you that you should see a dog and then you see the painting and its just a flower you brain is going to be trying its hardest to find the dog and often it will find the dog where there is no dog at all
whereas if you had gone in blind your brain would have never looked for a dog and would never have found one.
fucking hell reminds me of watching hoon, fucker will read "watermelon" on the bag and then when tasting the whole time is searching for the watermelon and as soon as he tastes any sweetness he says "ah yes there's the watermelon"
its fucking retarded.

Anonymous Fri Sep 29 19:28:19 2023 No.19752983

>>19744108
Preface this with I'm using a neo
I always pull long shots, usually 13 g of coffee with a full brew chamber. Pre-infuse at 2 bar until the portafilter fills out and then up to 9 bar until all water has passed through. I'll ease off the pressure if it starts to channel (usually only when I'm dialing in new beans).
>>19752359
>>19752360
>>19752375
Machine it yourself then

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 29 19:30:44 2023 No.19752992 >>19752983 >if it starts to channel How do you tell when it's channeling?

Anonymous Fri Sep 29 19:35:34 2023 No.19753005
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>>19752918
>how do you know you are not being influenced by the tasting notes
Because I've forgotten about anything the notes might have said after the greens sit around for weeks, and then have zero idea about the coffee after it rests for a month+? The coffees I get from other roasters also line up with their notes. Drink more coffee, buy better coffee, think about it. Stop using tap water.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1kXKjrdYV-ZkORxWX0aDqgQlSlXu85WtJE7eFR5PwlJE/

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 29 19:37:25 2023 No.19753009 >>19753005 >Stop using tap water. good morning Mr Kruger how nice of you to join us.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 29 19:37:34 2023 No.19753010 File: 124 KB, 833x799, IMG_7598.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>19752889 No, American, I just have unusually good taste

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 29 19:43:40 2023 No.19753031 >>19753009 Stop reeing at hoontubers then. Either you'll learn to taste and prepare coffee, or you won't. I hope for the former. Check out the pastebin up top.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 29 19:45:19 2023 No.19753035 >>19753031 i want you to tell me what you think my comment meant. because i dont think you understood.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 29 19:53:19 2023 No.19753066 >>19753035 You're implying that a less skilled individual than yourself is overstating their ability. Standard psued copout. I'm implying you could either prepare coffee better coffee or buy better coffee. Work at it. You'll get there.

Anonymous Fri Sep 29 19:58:01 2023 No.19753081

>>19753066
>You're implying that a less skilled individual than yourself is overstating their ability.
no im not.
im saying you are attributing a massive amount of change to a very small(impactful and noticeable but small) change to the brewing process.
and i do use filtered water, i use a filter that was recommended here.
and your snark is really fucking annoying
it makes every interaction with you 10x harder.
id rather you just call me a dumb cunt than do this "Work at it. You'll get there." shit.
actually fucking unbearable and unnecessary.

Anonymous Fri Sep 29 20:08:02 2023 No.19753123

>>19753081
>i do use filtered water, i use a filter that was recommended here
So you've got no idea whats actually in your water then? TDS, hardness, alkalinity? What minerals are creating that hardness and alkalinity?
>you're a dumb cunt
I'm really trying to help you out here. Tell me more about your water setup. We've got a few posts to burn through before the next thread.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 29 20:20:39 2023 No.19753172 >he doesn’t use pristine well water, or water captured from mountain springs to brew his coffee >he has to filter his water at all str8 up ngmi famalam

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 29 20:22:38 2023 No.19753178 File: 223 KB, 1280x1280, IMG_2968.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>19753010 I dig your style dude

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 29 20:23:40 2023 No.19753183 File: 5 KB, 100x100, IMG_2953.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>19753172 I use well water desu senpai

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 29 20:25:28 2023 No.19753189 so when is the pseud genocide happening?

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 29 20:29:09 2023 No.19753195 File: 49 KB, 461x600, imgcover.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >dunningkruegerdunningkruegerdunningkrueger Why yes I use 4chan's #1 recommended water filter :3

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 29 20:31:38 2023 No.19753201 you guys live in flint michigan?

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 29 20:31:57 2023 No.19753204 holy shit look at him melt

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 29 20:34:09 2023 No.19753215 >>19753204 >look at him melt haven't said that in weeks

Anonymous Fri Sep 29 20:40:19 2023 No.19753243

>>19753215
thought about bringing it back into rotation.
anyway, i hadnt had my first coffee of the day
i am now post first goff
saturday morning vibes.
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=merFcTEQPFQ
dialing in that washed honduras i got last week(?)
ill go another click finer later today (if i remember)
its mellow at the moment but i know i can squeeze more out of it.
gotta find a decent green goffee bean seller in aus.
iv been putting it off.
but the time is upon me.
pretty scared, its a big investment.
its half of a HG1P

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 29 20:48:44 2023 No.19753273 >>19752918 >hoon >watch oldest videos >watch newest videos >timestpan 4 years home espresso is no joke

Anonymous Fri Sep 29 20:50:40 2023 No.19753279
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>>19753243
Oh god I had a feeling I was educating roktist. Make the next thread and think about what you've done. I'll teach you all about roasting once you get the genecafe.
>thought about bringing it back into rotation
And quit aping my shit.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 29 20:52:13 2023 No.19753286 NEW THREAD >>19753284 >>19753284 >>19753284

Anonymous Fri Sep 29 20:55:08 2023 No.19753293

>>19753279
>And quit aping my shit.
people ape my shit.(such as "if you dont know what you are talking about just say so and fuck off")
its an ape eat ape world.
also when it comes to water and tasting notes in the end its subjective(to a degree) and we do very different brewing methods (i feel like this is a good resolution to the discussion/argument.)

Anonymous Fri Sep 29 20:59:59 2023 No.19753319

>>19753293
You understand that filtered tap and 0ppm distilled water dialed to taste are very different things though right? I shouldn't have to teach you that. One is repeatable and measurable, one is constantly changing as your filter medium degrades.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 29 21:14:30 2023 No.19753387 >>19753319 >teach oi cunt dont push it. and yes i do understand the difference. in my personal experience better water will change the resolution of the picture, it will not change the picture itself.

Anonymous Fri Sep 29 21:30:23 2023 No.19753448
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>>19753387
Yes, teach. Just mixed up enough concentrate for 9L of filter. 35/15(sey) with calcium chloride and potassium bicarb. It makes different coffee than the same specs made with epsom salt and baking soda. I know this because I've tried it side by side across several different coffees/origins/processes. Tried (waterchem) blends too but its already annoying weighing out two powders. Can you teach me anything about your water or are you just guessing?

Anonymous Fri Sep 29 21:36:55 2023 No.19753472

>>19753448
water goes in filter
water comes out of filter into kettle :)
also i know all this water shit.
i just dont do all the autistic shit
hey maybe one day when i get into the espresso faggery ill do the water autism but for me right now water filter is good enough.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 29 21:45:05 2023 No.19753495 File: 86 KB, 980x569, 1670387747559590.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>19753448

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 29 21:46:06 2023 No.19753500 File: 153 KB, 987x887, 1667776616851615.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>19753448 >>19753495

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 29 21:47:08 2023 No.19753503 File: 43 KB, 992x254, 1667284592213622.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>19753448 >>19753495 >>19753500 is my tap water detailed enough?

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 29 21:47:30 2023 No.19753506 >>19753500 >>19753495 reminds me of my ex(med student, liked biochem)

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 29 21:49:11 2023 No.19753515 >>19753495 >cadmium 0.00 gmi

Anonymous Fri Sep 29 21:52:14 2023 No.19753525

>>19753472
You should buy a small distiller before the roaster.
>also i know all this water shit
So you know better but just wanted to argue. Think about giving that therapist another call before the next episode. If a newfag complains about their coffee tasting wildly different than what the bag says its a water issue. Or a kettle issue. Could be scale in the kettle changing the water.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 29 21:54:53 2023 No.19753535 >>19753495 >>19753500 >>19753503 Yeah distill all that shit out. Add back a little epsom and bicarb and you'll have better coffee.

Anonymous Fri Sep 29 21:55:19 2023 No.19753537

>>19753525
>If a newfag complains about their coffee tasting wildly different than what the bag says its a water issue. Or a kettle issue
you are wrong and schizophrenic.
thats an insane thing to say.
if i taste grape and the bag says prune its not a water issue.
thats actually crazy YOU KNOW THATS INSANE.
and the original topic was tasting notes, YOU brought up your insane opinion that its all down to the water and acted as if thats the objective reality.

Anonymous Fri Sep 29 22:00:16 2023 No.19753549

>>19753537
Scroll up my autistic friend. Its all there. I told the anon to buy based on details, but he'd also start to learn what the tasting notes were referring to. You freaked out and made a fool of yourself again. You've been getting better recently so its kind of painful to watch. I think I'll go roast some burundi.
>>19752789

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 29 22:02:32 2023 No.19753554 >>19753549 >told the anon to buy based on details did you forget the second part of the message? >Anyone who says the notes are complete bullshit either has a skill issue, equipment issue, or both

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 29 22:07:21 2023 No.19753568 >>19753535 lol lmao even

Anonymous Fri Sep 29 22:13:37 2023 No.19753593

>>19753554
Not at all. I mentioned water as another potential issue after you started reeeing about newfags and your inability to taste. I really think this roktism has gone too far. You've dunning krueger'd yourself while watching the gianinnitard do the same thing. Here's another Albarn gem. Hope things have gotten a little better recently.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kx1KZjDsr8c

Anonymous Fri Sep 29 22:22:16 2023 No.19753620

>>19753593
so you dont think this
>Anyone who says the notes are complete bullshit either has a skill issue, equipment issue, or both.
is an incredibly inflammatory statement directed at me?
and you have the gall to call others pseuds while rattling off water chemistry and saying how it can fully change the taste of coffee to such a huge degree that you can go from not tasting what it says on the bag to tasting what it says on the bag.
unless of course, you would like to, on record, and say that thats not what you think and there are many other much larger factors that go into tasting notes on the bag and the notes the individual tastes.
oh and you really need to stop being constantly snarky.
its repugnant.

,. Fri Sep 29 22:27:16 2023 No.19753635 [DELETED]

>>>/vg/447875110
Artificial Academy 2 General /aa2g/ #1293
Ready to Serve Edition

Welcome, this general is for the discussion of ILLUSION's Artificial Academy 2.

COPY ERROR MESSAGES WITH CTRL+C, PASTE THEM WITH CTRL+V INTO GOOGLE TRANSLATE. JUST CLICK THE WINDOW AND PRESS CTRL + C, IT WORKS.

>Downloads:
/aa2g/ Pre-Installed Game, AA2Mini: https://tsukiyo.me/AAA/AA2MiniPPX.xml
AAUnlimited updates: https://github.com/aa2g/AA2Unlimited/releases

>Information:
AA2Mini Install Guide:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/e/2PACX-1vS8Ap6CrmSNXRsKG9jsIMqHYuHM3Cfs5qE5nX6iIgfzLlcWnmiwzmOrp27ytEMX03lFNRR7U5UXJalA/pub
General FAQ:
https://web.archive.org/web/20200216045726/https://pastebin.com/bhrA6iGx
AAU Guide and Resources (Modules, Tans, Props, Poses, and More):
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/17qb1X0oOdMKU4OIDp8AfFdLtl5y_4jeOOQfPQ2F-PKQ/edit#gid=0

>Character Cards [Database], now with a list of every NonOC in the megas:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1niC6g-Xd2a2yaY98NBFdAXnURi4ly2-lKty69rkQbJ0/edit#gid=2085826690
https://db.bepis.moe/aa2/

>Mods & More:
Mods for AAU/AA2Mini (ppx format, the mediafire has everything):
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/vwrmdohus4vhh/Mods
/aa2g/ Modding Reference Guide (Slot lists for Hair/Clothes/Faces, List Guides, and More):
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1gwmoVpKuSuF0PtEPLEB17eK_dexPaKU106ShZEpBLhg/edit#gid=1751233129
Booru: https://aau.booru.org

>HELP! I have a Nvidia card and my game crashes on startup!
Try the dgVoodoo option in the new win10fix settings.
Alternative: Update your AAU and see if it happens again. If so, disable win10fix, enable wined3d and software vertex processing.
>HELP! Required Windows 11 update broke things!
winkey+R -> ms-settings:developers -> Terminal=Windows Console Host

Previous Thread:
>>>/vg/445943839
Nigger spearchucker you woke up eh. Loli nigger this will be fun!

Anonymous Fri Sep 29 22:31:55 2023 No.19753648

>>19753620
If it was directed at you I'd have quoted your post. It only takes a click. Didn't even read what the guy was responding to if you believe it, but if you feel attacked that seems like a personal problem. Rooting for you in coffee and in life. You should recognize how rare that is. Not too long ago we had another discussion after you reeeee'd about resting beans and had your mind completely changed by a standart sample right? Keep an open mind. Hope the proud marys are good. Heard people stopped liking them after the head roaster left recently(?) but I'm assuming they're talking about the us side.

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