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Coffee Time General /ctg/ Anonymous Mon Sep 18 04:34:08 2023 No.19715963 [Reply] [Original]

Thread for discussing coffee.

Preferably coffee from brasil... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vz4yrEL9UZ8

Last thread: >>19691296

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 18 04:34:46 2023 No.19715964 >>19715963 Previously >>19702216

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 18 06:23:10 2023 No.19716189 You couldn't fuck this up any harder. Just stop. If you're new or confused, start here: https://pastebin.com/UEzwuyLz If you're old and confused, remember when this general was good?

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 18 06:28:51 2023 No.19716199 What’s the cheapest decent setup to make real espresso? I bought my parents one of those nespresso machines a couple months ago, and I wanna know if 500 or so backs would be better spent on that and some pods or some used espresso equipment

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 18 06:41:45 2023 No.19716214 >>19716199 Flair+hand grinder https://youtu.be/-FP9Tnl3OFQ

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 18 07:15:56 2023 No.19716282 >>19716189 can you make an ACTUAL new goffee time general thread with proper formatting? i cant stand even being in this krangled ass thread.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 18 07:21:21 2023 No.19716293 >>19716282 Went to make it, looked up the old OP, refreshed because I had a feeling the tard beat me and I was right. Sorry pal.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 18 07:29:04 2023 No.19716317 >>19716293 i mean jesus fuck just look at the top of this thread. it cant be much worse than that. you should just make new threads too early better to be early and be called a fag than be late and be stuck in actual hell.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 18 08:03:45 2023 No.19716405 >>19716317 I tried to shut this shit down back in april. Its beyond saving now.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 18 08:26:20 2023 No.19716464 >>19716405 well... did you have a good goffee today :3

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 18 08:44:47 2023 No.19716497 >>19716464 Had a very nice origami cup of natty Idido Desalegn Hijo earlier. Tasted like blueberry+stonefruit jam.

Anonymous Mon Sep 18 08:55:29 2023 No.19716526

>>19716199
If you've got a budget of $500 you can get a breville bambino and an espresso capable handgrinder. Hell since the bambino is apparently under $300 on burger amazon you could get it and a high quality handgrinder or mid quality electric grinder

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 18 11:57:38 2023 No.19716868 Latest Quan's Kino https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s5nGW4Je_I0

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 18 12:17:26 2023 No.19716897 For those with manual/lever machines, what do you use for milk drinks?

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 18 12:18:33 2023 No.19716901 >>19716897 Your mom's semen

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 18 12:26:59 2023 No.19716919 >>19716901 my mom is semen?

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 18 14:02:54 2023 No.19717126 File: 83 KB, 520x390, 1671871167384293.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] new goff

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 18 14:46:02 2023 No.19717212 File: 27 KB, 300x250, pepcentcoffee.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>19716189 Thanks fren

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 18 14:49:38 2023 No.19717224 ( ) ( ) ) ) ( ) ( ( ( ) ( ) ) _____________ <_____________> ___ \| \|/ _ \ \| \| \| \| \| \|_\| \| ___\| \|\___/ / \___________/ \ \_____________________/ hey everyone just made a cuppa siiiiip ahh

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 18 14:49:40 2023 No.19717225 >>19717126 Nice, hows it taste? You like it?

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 18 14:50:47 2023 No.19717228 >>19717224 fuck the mug broke

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 18 15:01:33 2023 No.19717254 >>19717225 very nice! i was afraid it would be similar to the kenya aa but its not. pear and grape upfront followed by honey and then a hint of sugar.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 18 15:20:30 2023 No.19717297 >make coffee >beans say it tastes like dried fruit, smoky, chocolatey, pineapple, nutty, etc etc etc >drink it >tastes like coffee Why do they lie?

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 18 16:38:32 2023 No.19717471 >>19717297 >tastes like coffee bet you think all wine tastes like wine. expand your palate anon. also >reading the tasting notes EVER ngmi

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 18 16:39:33 2023 No.19717474 >>19716868 YOU TRICK ME YOU FUCK

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 18 17:12:40 2023 No.19717562 Is the quality/freshness of coffee really that important for cold brew?

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 18 17:22:20 2023 No.19717586 >>19717562 Not really. Cold brew is always going to have a stale oxidized funk from the long brew time.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 18 17:23:08 2023 No.19717589 >>19717586 skill issue

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 18 17:30:27 2023 No.19717601 >lookmomIposteditagain.jpg

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 18 17:32:54 2023 No.19717611 >>19717601 if its true i will post it.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 18 17:42:26 2023 No.19717639 >>19717611 Are you making cold brew in a vacuum?

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 18 18:17:47 2023 No.19717722 >>19717474 wdym?

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 18 18:35:26 2023 No.19717750 >making iced cobbe with my hario v2 >fuck up and forget to open the drip valve thing for the first 30s >fuck up and forget to put ice in the pot beforehand >somehow tastes better than how I normally make it explain

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 18 18:45:05 2023 No.19717772 >caffeine withdrawal Didn't think it would happen to me

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 18 18:50:06 2023 No.19717783 >>19717772 >didn't drink covefe for a week and a half to make sure I didn't get addicted ngmi if you aren't taking breaks, anon

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 18 18:51:17 2023 No.19717784 >>19717750 Welcome to hybrid immersion brewing. Long blooms are great huh?

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 18 19:17:33 2023 No.19717834 File: 250 KB, 1042x1280, IMG_5882.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Bros, I love her so much.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 18 19:21:17 2023 No.19717841 >>19717834 Does it actually make better moka than the steel Bialetti models? Or is the higher cost just for Italian manufacturing, design, and materials?

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 18 19:25:34 2023 No.19717846 >>19717841 100% of them that have been posted in this thread have shipped with a broken valve that needed RMA and repair.

Anonymous Mon Sep 18 19:28:55 2023 No.19717855

>>19717841
Stainless steel doesn't absorb odors from, say, detergents and certain coffee aromas, so you don't need to season it and you can liberally switch between different coffee while immediately tasting the difference rather than having a "break in" period like it happens with aluminium.

Apart from this and other pros, the taste imho is better and more concentrated, it's not a big difference though but it's nice.

Fit and finish is perfect, the pot is heavy and thick as fuck, so you pay also for the materials and design: it will last forever.

Anonymous Mon Sep 18 19:31:36 2023 No.19717864

>>19717855
Ok I misread your question, didn't see "stainless" Bialetti.

I never had a coffee from a stainless Bialetti moka, however I can 100% say that the difference lays in materials and fit/finish, as the Bialetti surely is thinner and lighter, it also has plastic bits.

Probably the coffee would be very similar but then again the only way to find out is to make a direct comparison because even high level moka pots such as the Giannina and Alessi 9090 are said to make coffee with some differences, for example the one from the Giannina is more concentrated.

Anonymous Mon Sep 18 19:41:07 2023 No.19717884

>>19717471
NTA but unless I had a whole row of coffees and wines to taste right after another, I couldn't tell the difference very well either. If I were to have a cup one day, and a cup of something else the day after it would be tough to taste the difference, unless it was something extremely different like light and dark roasts.

Anonymous Mon Sep 18 19:52:22 2023 No.19717917

>>19717864
I know the Alessi is higher cost simply because of the design and doesn't actually produce anything better than the steel Bialetti models. I was just wondering if the same is true for the Giannina. How much dry coffee fits in the basket of your Giannina?

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 18 19:54:10 2023 No.19717924 >>19717917 IIRC 11-12 grams with the reducer on 1 cup position and 21 grams on the 3 cups position. If you wait, I'll measure and reply later when I'm making cold brew before going to sleep.

Anonymous Mon Sep 18 19:57:52 2023 No.19717938
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>>19717924
Ps. the Giannina and Alessi 9090 have the same quality and fit/finish, the price is basically the same.

Online you can find the original Giannina model called "Tradizione" which has the older handle and other different details, that's even cheaper at circa 69€, and the current model (mine) which is called "Restyling" for 89€ both in the 3/1 cups version.

At the physical shop, where I bought mine, I paid 110€ and the Alessi goes for 130€ circa.

If you want to spend slightly more than the Bialetti stainless, look at this one:

https://www.amazon.it/Giannini-6611-GIANNINI-Caffettiera-Italiana/dp/B08H3WT79V

It's made in Italy by Giannini.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 18 20:16:48 2023 No.19717995 >>19717938 Round bottom pots seem like a bad idea, much harder to unscrew while hot.

Anonymous Mon Sep 18 20:20:01 2023 No.19718007

>>19717995
Then buy the Giannina Tradizione or Restyling models, they don't have this problem because they use the handle as a closure mechanism.
Mind that for a couple of months it will be very hard, then with time it will become softer and easy to close them.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 18 20:20:23 2023 No.19718008 Kino kino kino (moka pot users are scum) kino kino kino https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r9KAUgOuqws

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 18 20:28:58 2023 No.19718041 piston bros, today we flourish, less oversights https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KJc42z4Gpdg

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 18 20:38:14 2023 No.19718080 File: 238 KB, 1200x900, Fotoram.io.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Tomorrow I'm out of town for an appointment. There's a roaster + coffee bar on the road, let's see if I have time to stop for a goffee and some beans.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 18 20:40:28 2023 No.19718088 File: 115 KB, 600x574, jfds16531-fig-0006-m.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>19718041 Ah a fellow Ass man. I almost posted his last video but I figured discussion would be sparse. https://youtu.be/AfYfcnX6bV8

Anonymous Mon Sep 18 20:44:53 2023 No.19718102
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>>19718088
i posted the paper and was ignored >>19715319
>The goal of this study was to investigate how key brewing vari-
ables drive consumer preference for a single black coffee roasted at
a single level, and we found that TDS had the largest effect of the
three tested variables. Extraction yield played a secondary role in
consumer preferences, with the differences in liking based on PE
more apparent at higher TDS values. BT had the weakest impact of
the three investigated variables as long as other brewing variables
were adjusted to achieve similar extraction profiles across different
water temperatures.
>Our results suggest that the Coffee Brewing Control Chart’s
“ideal” coffee should be reconsidered to reflect consumer pref-
erence segmentation. Indeed, we uncovered two preference seg-
ments in this study, each with different sensory drivers of liking,
and whose liking related to TDS and PE with different response
surfaces

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 18 20:46:59 2023 No.19718110 >>19718080 there is always time for a goffee and beans disgovery stop

Anonymous Mon Sep 18 20:53:58 2023 No.19718128
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>>19718102
I seent it don't worry frendo. It was immediately drowned out by the jxprokatard not knowing what he's talking about.
>some people have shit taste and we can prove it scientifically
We just need to wall off that top right corner.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 18 20:55:14 2023 No.19718132 >>19718088 >>19718102 >neophilic goffee drinker literally me

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 18 21:14:55 2023 No.19718187 File: 65 KB, 1068x601, gigachad.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >sorry, friend. light roasts are bright and fruity, but they make my tummy hurt. I'll take a MEDIUM roast instead.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 18 22:17:02 2023 No.19718338 >>19717297 To sell more coffee..maybe you'll taste something like apple or pear or white grape with the fruity ones..then spice and chocolate with the dark ones that's about it..

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 18 22:19:32 2023 No.19718342 >>19717722 >Latest Quan's >click video >no quan thats called a trick anon.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 18 22:19:53 2023 No.19718346 Redpill me on light roasts with moka pot

Anonymous Mon Sep 18 22:29:49 2023 No.19718375

>>19717884
i feel like you have the wrong approach
you are not looking for distinct differences you are looking for the notes IN just this coffee.
it should be easy if you have an advanced palate and or great coffee beans.
like i know what burnt industrial carpet smells (and therefore tastes) like. so when i drink a dark roast there is a good chance i am going to smell/taste THAT, so instead of me saying "yep tastes like dark roast" or "yep tastes burnt" im going to describe EXACTLY what i am tasting and or smelling.
if you have a shit palate then yeh its like a different language, you cant see it, you cant read it, say it, understand it or even think it.
so yeh, tastes like goffee to you i guess.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 18 22:30:55 2023 No.19718379 >>19718102 >i posted the paper and was ignored i dont click links.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 18 22:34:39 2023 No.19718387 >>19718379 based. that's how you dodge the CIA N-WORDS

Anonymous Mon Sep 18 22:59:14 2023 No.19718453

>friend is visiting and stays over at my place for a few days
>drinks coffee literally all day long
>starts morning with two mugs of coffee
>constantly drinks coffee during the day
>constantly wants to stop at cafes when we go hang out in the city to drink more coffee
>drinks more coffee in the evening
>drinks a mug literally 5 minutes before going to sleep
I have no fucking clue how she's not dead yet, this was basically every day.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 18 23:17:04 2023 No.19718496 >>19718453 superior genetics

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 19 00:13:41 2023 No.19718745 >>19717924 Seems to be more than the equivalent 3 cup Bialetti (14g – 18g depending on beans and grind). Do you know if it's compatible with E&B Lab competition filter?

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 19 00:57:26 2023 No.19718910 >>19718453 did he make his own brews or did you graciously accomodate him

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 19 00:59:34 2023 No.19718916 >>19718453 I'm basically the same, why would I be dead? The only difference I can see there is that I only drink decaf after 9 PM.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 19 01:05:37 2023 No.19718933 >>19718910 >he >him

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 19 01:07:00 2023 No.19718939 >>19718933 oh whatever, she i guess that answers my question though

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 19 01:40:26 2023 No.19719044 >>19718745 Nope, sadly the Giannina can’t fit the E&B filter.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 19 02:30:58 2023 No.19719199 File: 1.16 MB, 4032x3024, 20230918_212820.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Think I got it, except for real this time.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 19 02:43:56 2023 No.19719237 >>19719199 anon...

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 19 02:45:49 2023 No.19719238 >>19719199 >muddy, lumpy bed Better grinder and technique are necessary. I give you a 2/10; it would not have been possible to do a worse job even if you had just dumped all the water in at once and let it sift through

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 19 02:46:27 2023 No.19719242 File: 209 KB, 750x1000, 1569003132074.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>19719237 >>19719238 At least you're not calling it bait this time

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 19 02:50:30 2023 No.19719252 >>19719242 if i see CHUNKS of coffee bean in your grounds 1 more time i swear to god anon. I WILL... be disappointed and give you words of encouragement :) you have to BE the hoff >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1oB1oDrDkHM look at his bed at 5:30.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 19 02:57:15 2023 No.19719263 >>19719252 My concern with that video (as opposed to his older V60 one that I'm trying to follow) is that I'm not doing one cup, I'm going for about 700ml of coffee every time I brew. Is it still applicable?

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 19 03:01:51 2023 No.19719269 >>19719044 Thanks. That is unfortunate. Guess I'll try my luck with the Bialetti Venus 6 cup model. The gasket measurements are only 1mm off the 6 cup Moka Express so it should fit.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 19 03:05:30 2023 No.19719277 >>19719199 how did it taste

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 19 03:10:39 2023 No.19719287 >>19719277 Frustrating, mainly It's very close to being really good but it's not quite there.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 19 03:12:39 2023 No.19719291 File: 1.34 MB, 3024x4032, shyssuafr8861.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>19719199 Looking great anon!

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 19 03:14:36 2023 No.19719298 >>19717783 Just had a slight headache for a day. Not the end of the world.

Anonymous Tue Sep 19 03:36:46 2023 No.19719349

>>19719263
yes
the technique is a bit different but your bed should still look like that.
he did a follow up video if you want to check that out.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v5WQ1sZzW4o
bonus chemex kino
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ikt-X5x7yoc
bonus bonus asmr kino
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YbXbcQEFPOU

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 19 03:38:19 2023 No.19719354 >>19717783 Caffeine addiction is a meme. It's real, but a complete pushover.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 19 04:08:19 2023 No.19719421 got the new standart they gave me bloody 6 month old beans i know its free but come on. they are fermented so maybe them being in the bag all this time made them even better.(copium) also the cover of this issue is worse than the last one.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 19 04:48:15 2023 No.19719508 >>19719421 That idido I had yesterday was about 4 months off roast. You'll be fine. If the beans aren't oily and aren't constantly exposed to fresh oxygen you're gucci.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 19 04:58:33 2023 No.19719525 >>19719508 havent opened the bag yet. its about 3pm so i might have a coffee as the sun goes down in a couple more hours. 66.73g bag. nice packaging. colombian washed, long fermented.(i think)

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 19 05:40:47 2023 No.19719596 File: 96 KB, 1024x1023, 1694519312427787.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Made some cold brew coffee overnight, tasted today, its nice, a bit stronger but feels unusual since cold

Anonymous Tue Sep 19 06:56:47 2023 No.19719767

>>19719525
>>19719508
update.
it was roasted on 14/8/23 so 1 month ago
the outer envelope had a misprint which was 14/3/23
but the inner sealed bag had the correct roast date
still longer than i prefer and there was noticeably less aroama and crema.
havent tasted it yet, it is too hot to drink at the typing of this message.
(its goffee time)

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 19 07:07:43 2023 No.19719777 >>19719767 All those words, still haven't said who the fucking roaster is. >less crema Good. Crema is the enemy of good coffee. You should know this by now. Carbon dioxide and suspended fines do not taste as good as the rest of your brew.

Anonymous Tue Sep 19 07:17:47 2023 No.19719786

>>19719767
https://www.belllane.ie/products/alfredo-eunilver-castano-colombia-250g
this is the sample i got
i love fermented coffee(just bought another $100 worth last night) so its a shame these beans are (not as old but still) so old, would have loved to have tried them 1 week post roast.
first taste. black. weak canned vegetable minestrone(Heinz of course)
second taste, a little premium panela. rose water, generic hard candy, refreshing. very pleasant.
third taste. cortado, wow, very nice. smooth, calm, very light in the mouth, papery, like licking the wrapping of a candy before eating the candy. very tea like, yeh heavy tea notes.
i will make it a little differently tomorrow(or later today if i have another coffee)
yeh i would recommend this coffee, i would pay for a full bag for sure. great summer coffee, either black with a bit of sugar or made into your milk drink of choice
i personally wouldn't buy this for drinking straight black ymmv.
>>19719777
sorry babe

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 19 07:23:58 2023 No.19719793 File: 137 KB, 2000x2000, 71tzTqJIc6L.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>19715963 I hate the handle on this thing so much for some reason and wish I got another model. Is there a way I can somehow replace it?

Anonymous Tue Sep 19 07:26:37 2023 No.19719796

>>19719793
yeh you can just rip that off and i think there should be a metal prong that the plastic is mounted to, can probably just weld your own handle on it
i dont know why, i guess its just that classic, premium italian engineering that makes every moka have the absolute most worthless handle known to mankind.

Anonymous Tue Sep 19 07:37:37 2023 No.19719824
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>>19719796
I have no idea how to weld but thanks for the tips anyways. I wonder if I can just get a similar leather sleeve thing they use on some kettles like pic rel and use that to hold it instead. Might work but sadly it would hide the logo and might make it look like some rip off Moka pot or something.
>>19719796
>the absolute most worthless handle known to mankind.
This one in particular takes the cake.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 19 07:41:36 2023 No.19719831 File: 2.88 MB, 2268x4032, PXL_20230912_224159559.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>19719786 Good shit, I'll put that grower on my shortlist for greens. Love floral columbians. Had a little of my honey gesha earlier.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 19 07:42:15 2023 No.19719833 >>19718910 I made coffee for her a few times, but for the most part she drank instant while at home.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 19 07:42:43 2023 No.19719836 >>19719833 >instant

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 19 10:46:28 2023 No.19720107 File: 102 KB, 1080x716, A1.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Could you make better coffee than your local cafe?

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 19 10:47:21 2023 No.19720110 >>19720107 I can't do latte art but in terms of taste I'm better.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 19 10:47:30 2023 No.19720111 File: 163 KB, 1080x938, A2.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>19720107 I can make it CHEAPER but the cafe still taste nicer

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 19 10:48:16 2023 No.19720113 >>19720107 yes, even at my worst i can beat them with my eyes closed.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 19 10:50:01 2023 No.19720117 >>19720111 >but the cafe still taste nicer how is that even possible?

Anonymous Tue Sep 19 10:53:18 2023 No.19720122

>>19715963
33 and today was the first time I ever ordered a coffee in a cafe. Always felt like I wasn't good enough. I ordered a coffe with 2 sugars and gave him this long story about how I normally drink tea I make at home. I believe I got a cuppacino. Was good but a little bit bitter.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 19 10:54:52 2023 No.19720123 ITS UP! >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dzVXxccIW7I

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 19 11:15:09 2023 No.19720152 All these light to medium roast beans have me craving a change and now I wanna try some dark roast on my V60. Any suggestions on beans? I heard the osmotic flow technique works nicely so I’ll try that.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 19 11:22:14 2023 No.19720170 >>19720107 Better latte art? No. Better tasting milk drinks? Yeah a little. Better tasting bare espresso? Absolutely.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 19 12:55:14 2023 No.19720341 >>19720123 Fuck off, chud!

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 19 14:24:43 2023 No.19720505 >>19720152 Illy

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 19 18:27:51 2023 No.19721089 >>19720123 The biggest psued coffeetube has to offer.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 19 18:31:14 2023 No.19721095 When I was poor I would just boil coffee grounds in a pot of water and drink that. Tasted like shit.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 19 18:37:17 2023 No.19721124 >>19721089 hes cringe kino hes exactly what the coffeetube community needs. more thorough than most of them when it comes to product reviews.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 19 18:42:02 2023 No.19721141 >>19721124 The guy makes wild jumps in logic while stock footage plays in the background. He's like Robert Aloe but even Aloe changed after Quan brought him on a livestream and he got cyber bullied.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 19 18:45:10 2023 No.19721150 File: 867 KB, 1024x1200, 1687674947538462.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] consoooom

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 19 18:47:48 2023 No.19721155 >>19721095 Grind it finder and you've got turkish

Anonymous Tue Sep 19 19:35:03 2023 No.19721302

Holy shit we've got some double kino here + the one and only Sheldon Wong. Picopresso gang is eating good.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n_Dy5fTnoog
For everyone else, yet another "how do I (buy) coffee" vid.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T9F3x7hU5O8

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>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 19 21:01:49 2023 No.19721504 >>19718453 Fast metabolizer of caffeine.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 19 21:02:50 2023 No.19721509 >>19719833 >instant Holy kek.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 19 21:03:52 2023 No.19721513 >>19719199 Nice grind size variance anon. Kek.

Anonymous Tue Sep 19 22:10:31 2023 No.19721671

I'm not an expert on coffee but why does it feel like the slider went towards dark with all coffee the past 10+ years? Light is medium at best, medium is medium dark, dark is... dark. Is there anywhere I can get light roast that's actually light? Milk chocolate colored or so?

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 19 22:18:34 2023 No.19721696 >>19721671 The lightest roast I've had from any roaster https://www.swroasting.coffee/product/colombia-huila-aguazul-pink-bourbon/4

Anonymous Tue Sep 19 22:25:58 2023 No.19721717

>>19721671
Darker roasts are more soluable and easier to extract with shittier equipment. By roasting med+ and calling it light all the normies get to larp that they drink the superior light roast.
>is there anywhere I can get light roast that's actually light?
Apollon's gold, sey, wendleboe, april, hydrangae, proud mary, flower child, roguewave, la cabra, moodtrap, or just roast your own.
https://www.sweetmarias.com/popper.html

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 19 22:45:42 2023 No.19721754 >>19721671 If you're buying grocery store stuff it's all going to be medium at the darkest. Specialty roasters do light roasts.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 19 23:16:38 2023 No.19721805 >>19721696 >>19721717 >>19721754 Thanks anons! >If you're buying grocery store stuff Should I avoid places like amazon as well?

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 19 23:17:13 2023 No.19721808 >>19721805 Yes

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 19 23:48:22 2023 No.19721877 >>19721717 >Apollon's gold, sey, wendleboe, april, hydrangae, proud mary, flower child, roguewave, la cabra, moodtrap At some of these prices, you might as well just buy actual Kona or some shit. Jeez.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 20 00:18:18 2023 No.19721969 >>19721805 >Should I avoid places like amazon as well? Kinda. Some roasters (Onyx, Partners Coffee) sell via third party so you shouldn't have an issue with roast dates, but you will have a smaller selection compared to their site's offerings.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 20 00:31:13 2023 No.19722009 >>19721754 To be fair some grocery stores (higher end varieties like whole foods, etc.) carry brands from bigger name specialty roasters, you just have to check that the bag's roast date was recent. Online shipping or local roaster is the best though.

Anonymous Wed Sep 20 00:36:15 2023 No.19722028
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>16 gr beenz in
>80 gr water
>put everything in a Nutella glass, put lid on and stir
>wait 12 hours
>pour everything into an Aeropress with metal filter (Prismo)
>separate the grounds from the goffee
>pour into your preferred mug and top with fridge cold whole milk

Enjoy

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 20 00:52:35 2023 No.19722060 File: 3.02 MB, 3234x3024, 20230919_195037.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>19719199 Slightly finer grind and tried to copy Hoffman's 1-cup ratios as best as I could. 30g coffee, 500ml water.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 20 00:56:50 2023 No.19722069 >>19722060 Nope, never mind, that's horrifically bitter.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 20 01:09:25 2023 No.19722097 >>19722060 Stop posting pictures of shit you motherfucking pajeet

Anonymous Wed Sep 20 01:11:10 2023 No.19722103

>>19721141
>wild jumps in logic
such as?
also the stock footage and royalty free music is comfy as hell.
i dont know what you would actually prefer?
him sitting in his small studio with the camera pointed at his fat old face while he talks? why?
like if he has something to show he shows it, if not then stock video it is because thats better than a black screen no?
anyway this Mahlkonig EK43 Project looks kino.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 20 01:12:19 2023 No.19722108 >>19721302 "es works" i thought it was pronounced sworks?

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 20 01:13:31 2023 No.19722112 >>19722028 buddy, you can just put g for grams.

Anonymous Wed Sep 20 01:19:10 2023 No.19722131
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>>19722097
No, you're going to suffer with me with every failure and struggle.
15g, 250ml, exact same technique. Notch 14 on an Encore.

Still has room for improvement, but it's much better. Actual flavor this time. Seems like it could do to be just a little bit coarser, but only a little bit.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 20 01:21:31 2023 No.19722140 >>19722131 poopa :)

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 20 01:25:20 2023 No.19722152 >>19722103 >hemro group won't answer my emails so they are babies afraid of my review He's the epitome of a home-barista forum dipshit.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 20 01:31:37 2023 No.19722174 >>19722152 >t. corpo bootlicker

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 20 01:32:57 2023 No.19722179 >>19722152 >>19722174 Just watched this. Pretty kino ngl desu https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Mh8QbOpcd8

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 20 01:49:26 2023 No.19722228 you know what moka stands for, right? "fix it again, tony"

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 20 01:52:52 2023 No.19722236 >>19722131 How are you getting such a coarse ground with a literal pile of fines every time? This seems impossible for a halfway decent grinder...

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 20 01:53:57 2023 No.19722239 >>19722236 You consider that coarse? I've got it calibrated as fine as it can go, and I was under the impression that the muddy texture could only really show up in too-fine grounds.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 20 02:10:59 2023 No.19722289 >>19722236 i think he has an old encore.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 20 02:13:27 2023 No.19722295 >>19722289 I got it back in 2021 or so.

Anonymous Wed Sep 20 02:20:58 2023 No.19722318

>>19722239
yes i can still see chunks as if the beans have been chipped.
you are getting mud because your grinder has bad consistency, aka fines.
so on one hand you have uneven chucks(which tbf have gotten smaller) and you also are getting finer particles slipping through as well.
think about how sediment works irl.
you often have multiple stages of different sized rocks and then gravel then sand or similar sized soil then very fine silt.
>>19722295
ok :)
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1gm6UfD9qSc
4:39, you can see majority of your grind on the left and the fines in the middle and right.
the more expensive a grinder gets(USUALLY) the less fines it will make
not telling you to go out and buy a new grinder at all
simply explaining how things work
ps, you are making good progress :) hope you had a good day.

Anonymous Wed Sep 20 02:27:33 2023 No.19722352

>>19722318
So what's the move here? If my grinder's imperfect but not really in my power to fix from what I can tell, am I just bottlenecked by it?

I don't need perfect coffee by any means, but if there's something I can do to resolve the issue that'd be good. I plan on doing espresso soon too, and while I know I can get fine enough with the encore the inconsistency might be a problem.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 20 02:30:13 2023 No.19722361 >>19722352 i mean... i supposed you could sift evey grind for 10 minutes.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 20 02:54:03 2023 No.19722412 >>19722361 I'm actually not opposed to doing that if only for the hell of it. I'll look into sifting. Also, thank you for the compliment anon, my day was good and I hope yours was too.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 20 03:00:57 2023 No.19722432 File: 315 KB, 1024x667, 5408002005_5962f7093f_b.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>19720122 The Donut King was satisfied with your order

Anonymous Wed Sep 20 03:10:03 2023 No.19722451

>>19722352
Anon, depending on what you grind for, yourself or an army, a hand grinder can be a perfect answer to getting espresso worthy grinds.
If you're a cheapskate or just don't want to invest a lot into a new method, javapresse is a decent option. You get what you pay for, but it's worth it's weight. You'll get a very simple tool with problems more expensive grinders don't have, but it has a good burr and it holds up to abuse.
Consult the geniuses here or elsewhere on an expensive choice, but success there really depends though on what you want to do with it, and whether or not you consider 200-300 to be a good price.

Anonymous Wed Sep 20 03:20:45 2023 No.19722476

>>19722352
Yeah I think if the grinder is broken, your only option for espresso is to sift (since it can produce fine grinds). However for pourover, the variation in grind size will reduce your margin of balanced flavors (basically it will be more likely to go from overly bitter to overly acidic). I think even a cheap hand grinder (less than $100) can provide you with much higher grind consistency for your pourovers. For example I find it easy to dial in my coffee with my $85 Q2, and the grinds are very consistent. The reason I mention this is because I suspect most sifters fine enough for espresso cost over $100 (kruve is near $200) and repair will probably cost at least $100 as well.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 20 03:22:21 2023 No.19722481 >>19722476 And to be clear I'm fairly sure you can spend just a bit more than that for a decent to high tier espresso grade hand grinder as well.

Anonymous Wed Sep 20 03:24:23 2023 No.19722487

>>19722451
>>19722476
I do drink a lot of coffee but if I'm going for smaller batches with higher precision for espresso (as opposed to the 30-45g for casual pourover) then I do think a hand grinder might not be a terrible idea. I had a Timemore once but it never felt quite right and also took a century to grind finer stuff so I sold it before getting my Encore.

I don't really want to blow $200 on a handgrinder when at that point I could probably get a better automatic grinder than my Encore, but I'm certainly open to suggestions below that. I've also heard that espresso generally favors grinders that don't have a clicking dial, but I'm not sure as to the truth of that.

Anonymous Wed Sep 20 03:55:02 2023 No.19722560
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>>19722487
Afaik the stepless style grinder gives you much more precision at the fine grind settings (since you in theory can dial in to individual microns, rather than it jumping between a given interval). Attached is the /ctg/ chart for handgrinders, and from what I've heard, M47 and Jmax are of similarly high quality for espresso with extremely fine adjustment (basically next best thing to stepless afaik). I went ahead and checked prices and Kinu M47 went up a couple dollars to $219 still a quite good price I believe, and the Jmax is currently on sale for $159, so that seems like a pretty good deal given your indicated price point. I believe you'd have to spend a lot more if you wanted to get an automatic of comparable consistency, but I frankly haven't researched those so I'll defer to other anons on that front.

Anonymous Wed Sep 20 04:03:41 2023 No.19722590

>>19722560
Well damn, that sale on the Jmax is pretty serendipitous. If I have any reservations at all it's that it's still technically Chinese but a Taiwanese company manufacturing in China feels like it's probably better than an outright Chinese company (Timemore).
Think I'm going to go ahead and spring for the Jmax. Really appreciate it.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 20 04:04:49 2023 No.19722595 File: 310 KB, 552x965, Screenshot_20230919-215742_Camera.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>19715963 I want to mix this together with coffee. Good idea?

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 20 04:14:03 2023 No.19722624 I'm almost certain that Encore has either a broken or missing part

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 20 04:15:32 2023 No.19722629 >>19722624 *That's easily and cheaply replaceable

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 20 04:19:23 2023 No.19722639 >>19722624 Not missing, I disassembled the thing Sunday to recalibrate it. Broken, maybe but I don't think so. The gasket is an unsteady pain in the ass but from every video I've seen the gasket is an unsteady pain in the ass on all of them.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 20 04:31:17 2023 No.19722666 >>19722624 yeh idk i looked at a bunch of videos and all of them could do v60 no problem sometimes thats life.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 20 04:45:24 2023 No.19722688 I'm glad my chart helps another anon :)

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 20 04:57:17 2023 No.19722711 >>19722688 but what if he needs a vertical crank? honestly i think my rok can produce a better grind for filter with less fines than that guys encore. (disclaimer do NOT buy a rok unless you are 38 layers deep in moka pot schizophrenia)

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 20 05:01:34 2023 No.19722722 >>19722639 What guide or video did you follow? Baratza has a video on their YouTube channel breaking down every part of an Encore.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 20 05:03:51 2023 No.19722727 >>19722722 https://youtu.be/tvPmA2laBzM?feature=shared

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 20 05:06:48 2023 No.19722735 >>19722727 >audio is only one side jesus

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 20 05:09:17 2023 No.19722741 >>19722711 I hope you get a chance to use a decent hand grinder one of these days and realize the error of yours ways.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 20 05:16:05 2023 No.19722754 >>19722595 Great idea! For best results use a concentrated coffee beverage like espresso, moka pot, or high dose instant.

Anonymous Wed Sep 20 05:19:34 2023 No.19722761

>>19722741
>love me rok
>love me natural process medium roast burundi
>love me E&B Lab 6 cup moka pot with competition filter
>love me bespoke ceramic cup i use for my grounds catcher
>love me loveramics clear twisted glass cups
>love me Loveramics x Tens Hundreds Thousands dosing tray
>love me rdt
simple as
roaster next month(probably)
had a couple big spending months(thats just life, sometimes ya just gotta do what ya gotta do) but still on track financially.
even if i hate roasting if i can get any amount of freedom from these worthless overpriced roasters it will be worth it.
new grinder is at least 1 year after roaster.(CRAIG LYN MAKE A NEW VERSION PLEASE!) i just feel like they are due for a new 2023/2024 revision.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 20 05:28:54 2023 No.19722775 >>19722727 Is this as far as you've gone? Have you removed the motor?

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 20 05:45:06 2023 No.19722806 >>19722761 An afternoon with my kinu would turn your life upside down.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 20 05:52:46 2023 No.19722818 >>19722775 I haven't gone any further than that, no. I'm not sure if I have the expertise to repair any issues with the motor, if they exist.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 20 06:11:46 2023 No.19722858 >>19722806 a dinner date with my rok would make for a great night <3

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 20 07:01:25 2023 No.19722944 File: 125 KB, 1440x1440, 377416171_665429362203781_5622902326000122261_n.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>19722858 Maybe if it were a wafo x pietro instead.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 20 07:15:04 2023 No.19722965 >>19722944 YOOO WHAT IS THAT!?

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 20 07:38:49 2023 No.19723005 >>19722965 Why its only the finest vertically cranked hand operated benchtop mounted flat burr grinder in existence. https://www.instagram.com/p/CxHXklhBHVI/

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 20 07:42:32 2023 No.19723010 File: 605 KB, 1600x900, cover1.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>19723005 >not a real product

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 20 09:33:53 2023 No.19723144 File: 1.09 MB, 250x141, 2023.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>19720113 >>19720117 I need better equipment...

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 20 10:18:07 2023 No.19723215 >>19723144 usually its better beans not better equipment

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 20 10:30:51 2023 No.19723238 File: 48 KB, 791x507, A1.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Have you guys tried singaporean-styled coffee? It's very different to italian espresso.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 20 10:35:57 2023 No.19723245 >>19723238 >have you guys tried pizza? its very different than lasagna

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 20 11:01:45 2023 No.19723304 >>19723238 Idk what this is but the coffee at my local HK-style café is vile.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 20 11:33:16 2023 No.19723349 >>19723238 I haven't. How does it differ?

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 20 12:39:59 2023 No.19723461 File: 3.32 MB, 640x360, 1681296356559584.webm [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >It's very different to italian espresso

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 20 12:43:19 2023 No.19723467 >>19723461 you couldn't pay me to drink that.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 20 12:45:06 2023 No.19723471 >>19723467 cluster 1 coffee drinker i see

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 20 14:05:16 2023 No.19723635 >>19723467 I'd drink that cup of slop long before I touch a moka.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 20 15:00:51 2023 No.19723724 Quan blessed us with another kino https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OUnmZv0PWhQ

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 20 15:52:49 2023 No.19723852 what's the cheapest hand grinder that's worth buying, hario slim any good?

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 20 15:56:56 2023 No.19723869 >>19723852 Not at all. Start here. >>19722560 If you're absolutely strapped for cash the kin k1 can be had for like $36 with the amazon coupon., otherwise look at spending just a bit more. It'll be worth it.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 20 15:58:27 2023 No.19723873 >>19722818 If you're able to calibrate then the rest shouldn't be that difficult. I'd recommend inspecting the motor/burr/etc before throwing money at another grinder.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 20 16:15:32 2023 No.19723941 when people use brew time for pour over as a metric for grind size, do they include the time waiting for the bloom in the total?

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 20 17:00:13 2023 No.19724117 >>19722560 >>19723869 are the colors supposed to be a ranking system? doesnt seem to say what it indicates

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 20 17:14:58 2023 No.19724162 >>19722487 >(as opposed to the 30-45g for casual pourover) You do 30-45 g for one cup pourover?

Anonymous Wed Sep 20 17:32:51 2023 No.19724215

>>19724117
Subjective opinion on "value"/feature set. The $99 Q2 used to be the default budget recommendation, now you can get a kinu knockoff for $88 with the k4 or the k6 for $99 which is just a cheaper K-max/bigger "better" q2. If you have to pay full price for the k6, its a bit worse value and you might want to look at snagging something else. If you have to pay full price for the k4, its still a better value than the Jx. Same burrs, smaller step size, better external adjustment, and cheaper. I haven't updated the prices in a few months but just looking at amazon the Jmax is on sale for $160 right now. Pretty fucking good price for 1zpresso's flagship espresso grinder.

Anonymous Wed Sep 20 17:44:05 2023 No.19724248

>>19724117
Yes, the more green the grinder is the better it is for its relative price bracket. You can compare the features at the similar price points, generally the greener they are the better one or more features such as burr set, micron interval, grind speed, construction, where they're built, etc. For example, Kingrinder K4 slightly edges out the 1zpresso Q2 because it is usually cheaper at msrp while having comparable performance and build and larger bean capacity. In cases like that determining factors are often up to your preference. The Q2 has burrs that lend to profiles close to commandante, and it's very compact andportable, ,so if the idea of that appeals to you it may in fact be worth the slightly higher price point compared to the K4. Then if you compare it to K6, the K6 beats the K4 out and Q2 by dint of it having features like external adjustment 16um intervals, and being espresso capable at a cheap price point. Typically, the grinders improve in performance at higher price, which is why they're ranked relative to price bracket, as grinders like the M47, Jmax, Kmax, and Commandante have solid reputations for capacity, higher consistency, espresso capability, as long as they're within your budget. Hope that helps.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 20 18:01:51 2023 No.19724304 brudi... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=quy-Lyvz8pg

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 20 18:17:07 2023 No.19724342 I wanna join the dark side... Any suggestions on what's a good dark roast to try?

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 20 18:21:10 2023 No.19724354 File: 138 KB, 900x675, 1688790817105204.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>19724342 >good dark roast https://www.intelligentsia.com/products/el-diablo-dark-roast

Anonymous Wed Sep 20 18:25:38 2023 No.19724373
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>>19723873
I don't mind having a handgrinder anyway but yeah I'll look into doing a full teardown on the Encore.

>>19724162
Nah, 650-700ml usually. I have the 2-cup V60 so it works perfectly.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 20 18:28:50 2023 No.19724383 I've been noticing that I only experience the whole Drink Coffee-> Poop phenomenon when Robusta is involved, is this just me?

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 20 18:29:22 2023 No.19724387 >>19724383 Yes because the Drink Coffee-> Poop phenomenon is almost entirely psychological.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 20 18:58:03 2023 No.19724476 >>19724354 Nice, what a coincidence. I was thinking either that or pic rel. However the El Diablo one is cheaper so it's probably better to try that first. Also both websites offer a subscription. I wonder if those are worth.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 20 18:59:19 2023 No.19724479 File: 669 KB, 933x1065, Capture8.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>19724476 As you can tell I haven't had coffee yet. Here's the pic rel that I didn't even add.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 20 19:06:59 2023 No.19724505 >>19724383 wishing I had that instead of the drink poop->coffee phenomenon

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 20 19:47:18 2023 No.19724635 File: 241 KB, 432x878, 1677413682192951.webm [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] You guys use https://beanconqueror.com/ right?

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 20 19:55:21 2023 No.19724660 I want to improve my coffee photography game. Any suggestions or tips? Got any examples of highly presumptuous pictures I can imitate?

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 20 20:18:09 2023 No.19724721 I just brewed the most downright VENOMOUS cup of coffee I've ever tasted in my french press and all I did was try putting a paper filter over the grounds.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 20 20:39:26 2023 No.19724787 File: 82 KB, 640x800, gof.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>19724248 >>19724215 youve been very helpful, ty anon have a nice pic from my local cafe

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 20 20:52:52 2023 No.19724827 >>19724787 Two hearts. That barista wants your dick, Anon

Anonymous Wed Sep 20 21:08:01 2023 No.19724872

>>19724635
I have it installed and should use it, I just don't. Its good for remembering what I have frozen though.
>>19724787
Anytime pal. Feel free to ask anything and we'll try to get you set up. It might be hard to swallow the upfront cost of some of the "premium" grinders but over the coarse of the lifetime the difference is going to be negligible and you'll be happier not having to use junk for years.

Anonymous Wed Sep 20 21:26:54 2023 No.19724930

>>19724248
>got the K4 grinder instead of the K6 because I thought I'd eventually get into espresso
>still don't do espresso and have started to prefer pour overs so I doubt I'll get an espresso machine any time soon
feelsbadman..
Is it that much of a difference between the K4 and K6? If the extra fines from the K4 gives my pour overs more "body" then I don't mind desu. I might just grind coarser to make up for it.

Anonymous Wed Sep 20 21:39:46 2023 No.19724969

>>19724930
Matt Winton won the world brewer's cup with a kinu. K4 is essentially a knockoff kinu. You're fine. I've made great pourovers with my kinu phoenix over the years.
https://youtu.be/_7azuIxdRF4
>gives my pour overs more "body"
Thats it. Its just a different profile.You're trading more focus/clarity and separation for a little more body/texture and "blending" between the same flavors.

Anonymous Wed Sep 20 22:00:02 2023 No.19725018

>>19724969
Nice. Thanks anon. I just read in that chart thing that the K6 is a "stupid fucking deal for filter or espresso" and thought I missed out or something, but guess if I made some tasty brews (especially with some Costa Rica beans MMMM I never knew coffee could taste so strongly of brown sugar) then I don't need to worry. There's also the benefit that the K4 grinds a little faster than the K6 too.

Anonymous Wed Sep 20 22:29:15 2023 No.19725081
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>>19725018
$99 K6 specifically is a stupid deal because you can't get the 48mm "comandante" burrs cheaper than the $240 kmax. The price gap between those two is bigger than the k4/jx.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 20 22:36:55 2023 No.19725101 >>19725081 Ahh okay makes sense now.

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 21 00:58:52 2023 No.19725472 >>19723461 It feels so batch I'm depressed but I'd still be sad and drink it then not have coffe.e

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 21 00:59:29 2023 No.19725473 >>19723941 Yes, at least in most cases.

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 21 02:24:17 2023 No.19725683 >>19722560 JX-Pro has been the best purchase I've ever made, and the infinitely adjustable grinder is pretty cash

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 21 03:12:13 2023 No.19725775 Kino https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_oruhRlA39Q

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 21 03:31:51 2023 No.19725827 File: 326 KB, 800x800, 1950880574-429920366.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>19724930 >>19725018 You can find the Kingrinder heptagonal burr set on Aliexpress for $20 – $30. Not sure if/how it will fit in the k4 body though.

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 21 04:46:32 2023 No.19725942 >>19725775 >13 minutes in HOLY FUCK JUST GET TO THE BREWING

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 21 11:17:24 2023 No.19726545 Coffeebros, how do i make the most compressed and strongest possible coffee within a single cup if doing it by cold brewing or something? I only really have some coffee filters, a coffee machine and a french press as for equipment.

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 21 12:34:59 2023 No.19726668 File: 1.45 MB, 919x1226, 1663839679731609.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] New beenz bros. 100% arabica espresso archetype. Will brew shortly.

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 21 12:37:56 2023 No.19726675 >>19726668 >fruity instant pass

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 21 12:51:03 2023 No.19726701 >>19715963 brother bought a nespresso machine coffee it makes tastes like shit is that normal? How is good black coffee supposed to taste like?

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 21 12:53:28 2023 No.19726705 >>19726675 NTA but please tell me what taste notes to look for because most of the beans I've been buying are ass

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 21 12:54:44 2023 No.19726708 >>19726701 Yes, that's the expected result from that sort of machine.

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 21 12:54:57 2023 No.19726709 >>19726668 Fuck off back to Instagram.

Anonymous Thu Sep 21 12:57:45 2023 No.19726713

>>19726705
chocolaty, nutty, woody are usually good keywords

avoid anything that says vibrant, fruity, colorful, etc - that's a love it or hate it type coffee. That being said, it's possible your brewing technique or your grinder sucks more than the beans being all bad.

Anonymous Thu Sep 21 12:59:41 2023 No.19726717

>>19726545
I haven't succeeded in making a good cold brew yet (still somewhat of a beginner) but I would assume the strongest possible thing would be a 1:12 ratio French press. Maybe even slowly filter it through a V60 or something to have no fines in your drink.
Oh and you could also try Turkish coffee which is quite strong but of course you gotta leave the last sip which would be full of sunken grounds.

Anonymous Thu Sep 21 13:12:46 2023 No.19726747

>>19726713
I did have a lot of "fruity" beans which all sucked EXCEPT for one Costa Rica origin beans which was so good. I'll try to look for chocolaty type of notes next. I feel like I just need to take a break from coffee however. Every coffee I'm making is starting to taste more bland, boring, and I don't even feel like finishing the cup. I'll clean my grinder and also just lay off of coffee for like 4 days or something. In the meantime I shall have green tea.

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 21 13:41:43 2023 No.19726815 File: 2.33 MB, 2242x1001, 1672794641872022.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>19726668 First sip. Not dialed in yet. Ground too fine. Still tasty but not balanced. Will try a coarser second sip a bit later. New Luberamics cuppa n saucer too.

Anonymous Thu Sep 21 15:41:28 2023 No.19727092
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>>19726815
Second sip.
Almost dialed, 18g in 33g out, in 32s so next time a tad coarser.
Balanced AF.
Can clearely taste a bit of acidity that is absent from my last beenz (Robustarabica & N°7) but in a really tasteful and equilibrium way. I suppose those are the "fruity notes". I'm a novice so don't ask what fruit's the taste from.
Tasty cocoa notes intermingle to produce a very balanced and rich syrupy taste.
First Carasso goff, won't be last i presume.
Cuppa is thicc and hefty and provides adequate thermal energy storage.

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 21 16:26:09 2023 No.19727200 File: 52 KB, 534x556, 1666329586930139.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Do I need a cezve to make turkish coffee or can I make turkish coffee in any pot?

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 21 16:57:34 2023 No.19727279 >>19727200 Nah you're good to make it in a v60.

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 21 17:27:49 2023 No.19727338 >>19726717 >1:12 ratio French press. one part coffee 11 parts water? filter through a coffee filter after or?

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 21 18:17:34 2023 No.19727470 what should my first gesha be?

Anonymous Thu Sep 21 19:29:09 2023 No.19727688
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>>19727338
Multiply the weight of your dry coffee by 12 to get the weight of water you should use. For example 15g coffee would need 180g water for 1:12 ratio.
Pic related is a French press. It's a type of immersion brewer. It has a fine mesh screen for filtration. Most people don't use additional filtration when using a french press, but some do. Watch James Hoffmann's video on the french press for a good technique. You can also do the exact same type of brew in a regular pot, canister, or jar and filter through a fine mesh sieve/strainer if you don't want to buy a French press right now. The trick with immersion brewing is to let the grounds settle on the bottom of the brewing vessel before slowly pouring into your cup.

Anonymous Thu Sep 21 20:55:41 2023 No.19727926
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700ml of water, 42g of coffee, J-Max at 230 clicks.
The inconsistent coloration makes me think there's an issue with my technique, but that's just a matter of practice. On the other hand, I'm much, much happier with the overall state of the bed now and the taste is much more pleasant and balanced.

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 21 21:23:04 2023 No.19728016 >>19727926 holy fuck the grind isn't total dogshit allah be praised

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 21 21:24:41 2023 No.19728022 >>19727926 What do you mean by clicks?

Anonymous Thu Sep 21 21:25:39 2023 No.19728024
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>unique and interesting new coffee brewer is released
>it's plastic
Every time! I know why they do this, but man, is it frustrating.
When are they going to release a metal AeroPress?

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 21 21:39:04 2023 No.19728061 >>19727926 Now you see why we say hand grinders punch well above their price point.

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 21 21:42:48 2023 No.19728070 >>19728024 >unique and interesting new coffee brewer is released an aeropress without the pressing, which i do often.

Anonymous Thu Sep 21 21:45:52 2023 No.19728080
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>>19728016
Getting closer to ideal every time. I won't say I'm perfectly "satisfied" with the end result, but that coffee was good enough that I definitely think it'd be worth serving to guests.

>>19728022
The J-Max has very small adjustments but it's not a stepless grinder, so it "clicks" every time you adjust the grind. A full rotation is 90 clicks, so 230 is two full clockwise rotations from 0 and then continuing to rotate until it's roughly on the 5 mark.

>>19728061
Absolutely. A little more effort than the Encore but much much easier than the shitty Timemore I used to have and fantastic results.

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 21 22:31:10 2023 No.19728181 File: 271 KB, 1200x1200, paper_filter_all_product_web.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Flair sells bottom papers now kek. $9 for a 100pack and they've got pro2 and classic sized ones as well. Get em while they're hot.

Anonymous Fri Sep 22 00:35:13 2023 No.19728616

>>19727688
Lately I've been testing out using a filter on the press the way I saw on some video. Pretty good result and it's a nice way to switch things up trading some body for clarity. I'm consistently amazed how versatile and delicious the press can be even after using it for months as a daily driver (next I will get into v60).

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 22 00:36:35 2023 No.19728619 I bought an electric cezve and I'm pretty happy with it. Turkish coffee and 0 effort.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 22 00:45:56 2023 No.19728652 >>19728619 >0 effort. i bet you let a machine fuck your wife too because doing it yourself is too much effort.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 22 00:46:57 2023 No.19728656 ITS UP! >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cSWdHBqAz-4

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 22 00:47:18 2023 No.19728661 >>19728652 I have a black bull for that.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 22 00:47:52 2023 No.19728663 >>19728652 He should have married a man.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 22 00:49:28 2023 No.19728672 >>19727926 Holy shit anon that looks really good (especially compared to the older photos kek). I'm glad that grinder is working well for you.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 22 01:11:17 2023 No.19728749 >>19728656 i wish we had down votes

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 22 01:13:57 2023 No.19728758 >>19728656 Holy shit look at that charcoal at 3mins.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 22 01:19:20 2023 No.19728779 >>19728749 Don't wish to ruin our site because you're too used to social credit scores.

Anonymous Fri Sep 22 02:23:53 2023 No.19728990

>>19725827
The description says it works for the K0, K1, and a few other grinders. I’m not sure if it would fit in the K4.

However this does make me wonder, can someone get a high quality grinder for absolutely dirt cheap just by buying a K0 grinder and then replacing its shitty burrs with this heptagonal one?

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 22 02:28:25 2023 No.19729003 >>19728990 >can someone get a high quality grinder for absolutely dirt cheap No but you can get a janker q2 for a couple bucks cheaper and wait 6 weeks for aliexpress shipping though.

Anonymous Fri Sep 22 03:21:26 2023 No.19729101
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>Meticulously measure everything, get my water to the specific temp, perfectly grind the beans
>Tastes good
>Accidently let my scale shut off and eyeball the rest, let the water cool too much, slight change in the grind because of how a single bean sat during the process
>Best coffee I've ever brewed in my life that I will never be able to replicate
Five times. Five times this has happened to me, I started counting because of how phenomenal the coffee turns out every single fucking time. Once is a happy coincidence, twice is frustrating, three plus is God laughing at me.

Anonymous Fri Sep 22 03:44:11 2023 No.19729133

>>19728070
The unique and interesting part is how it disperses water over the grounds. It's something different and fun. Other than that it's basically a plastic phin filter with paper filtration.
My point about no metal AeroPress still stands. Why won't they make more brewers out of metal?

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 22 04:26:12 2023 No.19729210 >>19728070 That doesn't give you a no bypass brew. >>19729133 It's just a low turbulence/agitation no bypass brewer. It's cool, but at $40 probably just get a switch instead.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 22 04:27:05 2023 No.19729213 >>19729101 lmao

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 22 04:28:07 2023 No.19729215 >>19728024 >it's plastic Kids these days. I didn't grow up with your plasticphobia and I'm 40 now and still haven't grown tits.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 22 04:49:32 2023 No.19729268 >>19729210 > That doesn't give you a no bypass brew. Where does it bypass

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 22 04:57:55 2023 No.19729278 >>19729101 You must have some idea from how much water is leftover in your kettle, yes?

Anonymous Fri Sep 22 05:09:59 2023 No.19729297
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>>19729268
Between the(slightly undersized) filters and the side holes on the cap. Lower bypass than other methods for sure, but not zero bypass. If you look at the tricolate, it uses slightly larger filters than the brewer so it fully adheres to the wall. Hoop does the same thing but the filter get screwed in between the two pieces giving it a good seal and forcing all the water down through the bed/filter.

Anonymous Fri Sep 22 05:40:26 2023 No.19729342

>>19729297
>Doesn't own an Aeropress
You should have just said that instead of talking out of your ass. The bottom of the Aeropress chamber extends into the cap which not only keeps the perfectly sized filter firmly in place but also covers the holes on the sides (only useful when the filter is clogged and pressing).

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 22 05:56:18 2023 No.19729374 >>19729342 Have you ever had any grit in your ap brews? It's coming through those side holes. Theres a reason why the prismo and flow control don't have them, and thus have no bypass.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 22 06:05:10 2023 No.19729382 >Doesn't own an Aeropress >Reading comprehension is shit

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 22 06:10:29 2023 No.19729391 File: 537 KB, 704x699, SW-SSD.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>19729210 Switch has plastic.

Anonymous Fri Sep 22 06:18:43 2023 No.19729402
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>Those side holes are purely aesthetic and 120um thick paper filters make a water tight seal
I wonder what happens if you drill a few holes above this valve and the rubber gasketed screen. You think any water would b y p a s s?

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 22 06:19:44 2023 No.19729404 >>19729391 More than the hoop?

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 22 08:41:53 2023 No.19729603 should I drink some coffee?

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 22 08:45:56 2023 No.19729606 >>19729603 yes

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 22 12:02:25 2023 No.19729914 File: 1.73 MB, 919x1226, 1686957825766610.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Tasty brew in me belly.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 22 12:44:36 2023 No.19729983 File: 1.37 MB, 1396x1169, 1689648739512991.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>19728656 >>19728758 Where to find beans that dark, yet not oily?

Anonymous Fri Sep 22 12:47:02 2023 No.19729987

>>19729215
More than anything it effects flavour and aroma. Just like aluminium from classic Moka pots, a small amount of plastic leaches into the coffee and gives off a hint of plastic flavour. And honestly, I don't want to be ingesting plastic if I can help it.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 22 13:34:16 2023 No.19730075 >Doesn't go back and read what was posted >Doubles down >ESL

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 22 14:17:24 2023 No.19730163 >>19729983 self roasted?

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 22 14:18:37 2023 No.19730167 >>19729987 >More than anything it effects flavour and aroma. Just like aluminium from classic Moka pot provably false

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 22 14:23:10 2023 No.19730179 Drank no coffee for 2 days, then I had two cups and did my art reps for 14 hours straight. It is now time for work. I did not sleep. Time for more coffee.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 22 14:23:31 2023 No.19730180 >>19730163 I'd rather not. I just want to taste a sip.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 22 14:43:20 2023 No.19730217 >>19729101 >Five times. Five times this has happened to me You're shit at brewing coffee is what you're saying?

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 22 14:52:30 2023 No.19730236 recommendation for a scale for a v60 and clever dripper? is a hario good enough? https://www.amazon.de/HARIO-V60-Drip-Coffee-Scale/dp/B009GPJMOU/

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 22 15:04:23 2023 No.19730267 File: 1.83 MB, 640x360, 1684218827800291.webm [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] New consoooom btw.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 22 15:05:24 2023 No.19730269 >>19730267 why should i buy this if i can buy a comandante c40?

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 22 15:10:15 2023 No.19730287 >>19730269 >why should i I'm not your dad.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 22 15:17:31 2023 No.19730302 >>19730267 >can't even use their own product well

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 22 15:20:20 2023 No.19730305 >>19730287 why not? give money, dad

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 22 15:24:47 2023 No.19730308 File: 642 KB, 1022x731, It's_All_So_Tiresome.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>19730267 >another "born for the bin" hario product

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 22 15:36:46 2023 No.19730332 File: 2.27 MB, 360x640, 1679722384985574.webm [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>19730269 >c40 please pay attention we c60 nao.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 22 15:56:14 2023 No.19730374 >>19730267 Do people usually use hand grinders vertically on the counter like that? I normally rest it against my hip at an angle so it grinds smoother.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 22 16:03:12 2023 No.19730394 >>19730267 HARIO IS CATCHING UP!

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 22 16:35:07 2023 No.19730465 >>19730374 I guess it's for the video and product presentatioon.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 22 16:36:16 2023 No.19730468 >>19730374 hmm so i guess you could say a vertical crank would be... more ergonomic?

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 22 16:37:56 2023 No.19730470 >>19730468 Is your obsession with vertical cranked grinders related to your medical condition?

Anonymous Fri Sep 22 16:48:45 2023 No.19730487

>>19730470
its just more ergonomic
and there is no reason not to have a large flat base for a hand grinder
and you should put that large flat base on the kitchen bench
and then put your hand on top for support
it just makes sense
holding the grinder with 1 hand and awkwardly doing this shimmy motion with my hands to grind coffee is supremely retarded
like we have the tech to fix these issues
the most expensive, highest quality hand grinders are bench mounted and or vertically cranked, coincidence? i think not.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 22 16:52:32 2023 No.19730497 >>19730487 >the most expensive, highest quality hand grinders are bench mounted and or vertically cranked, coincidence? i think not. No fucking shit. Are you retarded?

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 22 17:02:26 2023 No.19730520 >>19730487 Thanks for your insight. Flawless logic.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 22 17:04:31 2023 No.19730522 >>19730487 Mazzer 83mms aren't good in a hand grinder. Hopefully you'll come to realize this before you spend your aussiebux. They like high rpm and back pressure from a hopper, neither of which you'll get in an hg1p.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 22 17:14:36 2023 No.19730543 File: 202 KB, 1334x610, 1671845588485824.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>19730487 You should buy it.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 22 17:17:50 2023 No.19730548 >>19729914 Your stomach shouldn't look like that anon...

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 22 17:30:27 2023 No.19730564 >>19730543 >Gee anon, why is your one arm so big and stronger compared to the other? Y-You're not thinking about me are you!?

Anonymous Fri Sep 22 17:43:58 2023 No.19730597

>>19730075
No wonder why the world hates aeropissers. Do you think those side holes in the stock cap have anything to do with side bypass, around the edges of the coffee bed?
https://coffeeadastra.com/2021/09/07/reaching-fuller-flavor-profiles-with-the-aeropress/
> the clever metal filter design, which includes a silicon ring around it that prevents any possible bypass of water near the edges of the coffee bed.
>Fellow Prismo attachment has two parts: a lower cap with a pressure valve, and an upper metal ring with a silicon gasket around it which prevents all side water bypass.
>Use the Prismo if you have one, it helps to prevent side bypass.

Anonymous Fri Sep 22 17:50:10 2023 No.19730614

>>19730465
I guess so, yeah. I tried doing it like that with my k4 when I got it and it was a nuisance. Much more aesthetic, though. It might be easier if it had some grippy material underneath and a wider base.
>>19730468
>>19730487
To be fair, wouldn't the vertical crank require additional gearing? And that would include bevel gears, too, so the cost difference would be significant.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 22 17:50:32 2023 No.19730615 >Still doesn't understand what was being discussed Keep trying, sweetie!

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 22 17:56:01 2023 No.19730625 >>19730615 >I brew no bypass ceado brews in my aeropress >no you don't, here's where it bypasses >nuh uh

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 22 18:13:25 2023 No.19730681 >I'm only pretending to be retarded I'm glad we could clear that up.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 22 18:30:54 2023 No.19730725 File: 814 KB, 1240x826, Ceado-Hoop-Brewer-3.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >an aeropress without the pressing, which I do often No wonder these threads have gone to shit. The aeropressgayng is somehow more delusional than ever.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 22 18:31:45 2023 No.19730729 >>19730725 So much plastic...

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 22 18:32:57 2023 No.19730734 NEW BREWER: >>19730727 >>19730727 >>19730727 >>19730727

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