/tea/ Laobanzang Edition

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/tea/ Laobanzang Edition Anonymous Fri Sep 8 23:28:06 2023 No.19686639 [Reply] [Original]

This thread is for discussing teas, tisanes, and other herbal infusions.
info: types of tea, where to get tea, how to brew tea
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>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 8 23:30:08 2023 No.19686646 What fall tea should i buy? Oolong or just more puer?

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 8 23:40:50 2023 No.19686673 thank you for your efforts OP maker >>19686646 for autumn and winter, it's ripe

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 8 23:45:32 2023 No.19686688 >>19686673 >for autumn and winter, it's ripe Yeah that what i was thinking, too. A few cakes of ripe, maybe some raw just in case i get the itch.

Anonymous Fri Sep 8 23:56:24 2023 No.19686718

The other day some anons were posting about all the random raw recipies that dayi made in 2007.
Toucha tea has a few of them for ~$45 a cake. Cheap enough to try for the hell of it.
Toucha tea has pretty dry Kunming storage from what ive heard.
http://www.tuochatea.com/menghai-0752-raw-pu-erh-p121/
http://www.tuochatea.com/menghai-0772-pu-erh-cake-p126/

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 9 00:45:35 2023 No.19686847 File: 430 KB, 600x400, 1666656251040922.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Lads check out this boss teapot! YEEAAAHHHHHHH

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 9 00:52:58 2023 No.19686863 When using a gaiwan, how often do you make and drink a new infusion each time compared to just pouring each infusion into another container to drink over time?

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 9 00:54:27 2023 No.19686866 >>19686646 Tian Jian Pu’er is Reddit now

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 9 00:55:46 2023 No.19686870 >>19686866 >tfw haven't gotten into pu'er yet but it's already reddit

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 9 00:56:05 2023 No.19686872 >>19686639 previous thread: >>19659231

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 9 00:57:29 2023 No.19686877 >>19686866 Tian jian is pretty good but i don't know if i would want to drink it all winter

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 9 00:59:02 2023 No.19686883 >>19686870 Drinking anything less obscure than Deang Sour tea means you are a normie.

Anonymous Sat Sep 9 01:08:02 2023 No.19686905

>>19681455
>First experience/reaction to puerh?
I got my first from a sampler I got from verdant tea followed by some cakes I bought from them. My initial impressions were that shou was interesting and sheng was too bitter. These days I am the opposite, shou tastes like dirt and sheng is where it is at.

>19685910
>Eveytime i look at w2t and think, oh that cake sounds okay for the price, i remember they are 200g cakes and click out of the store
If it makes it at all better they at least have cheap shipping. The quality of their cakes tends to be pretty good too.

>>19686863
>When using a gaiwan, how often do you make and drink a new infusion each time compared to just pouring each infusion into another container to drink over time?
I typically drink each steep separately. However I will stack them when in a hurry.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 9 01:39:05 2023 No.19686972 >>19686866 the most reddit thing you can do is care too much about categories and rules

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 9 03:07:37 2023 No.19687244 blown out gaper

Anonymous Sat Sep 9 04:27:35 2023 No.19687406
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>>19677457
>>19684097
>>19684192
Totally off topic but all this talk of archiving information and the potential futility of it has reminded me of the lyrics to a song I like.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mBzXbv-gxI0
>How long has it been since you had realized I wonder that I have a stupid dream
>Because I absolutely want to believe
>Because I don’t want to cry
>let me think that there’s nothing in this world that’s pointless

Back on topic, I drank some of farmer leaf's Spring 2022 Huey Wa today. I was not in the mood to do a proper tasting so I don't have detailed notes but my lazy impression is that it is fine for the price. It tasted like a you would expect a young sheng should, its pleasant but perhaps a bit unremarkable. However, it is a cheap cake so I think the quality is acceptable for the price bracket. With young sheng "exciting" typically does not come cheap. I still have more of the sample left so I will try to do a more thorough tasting later.
https://www.farmer-leaf.com/collections/yunnan-pu-erh-tea/products/spring-2022-huey-wa

Anonymous Sat Sep 9 04:28:41 2023 No.19687411
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>>19685597
>>19685532
I like the memento mori aesthetic but think the pot is tacky.

>have $30 pot
>slap a skull on it
>that'll be $200 for authentic mastercraft handmade artisan pot thrown one thousand times

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 9 04:47:11 2023 No.19687462 >>19687411 I can't agree with the tacky assessment. Maybe if it had flame decals and sharp lines, but as the center of a gong fu set, it's just right. Given that it went out in less than 8 hours, definitely not many of 'em.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 9 06:55:51 2023 No.19687724 Does anyone here recommend any decent quality matcha in bulk? I have been drinking bowls and bowls of matcha every day, but it's starting to burn a hole in my pocket.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 9 07:33:40 2023 No.19687806 >>19687724 If we are talking "ceremonial grade" matcha I don't think it is ever truly cheap. I don't drink much matcha myself but I have heard ippodotea has a good reputation and reasonable looking prices. https://ippodotea.com/collections/matcha

Anonymous Sat Sep 9 07:41:35 2023 No.19687815

>>19687806
Looks like the Japanese shop has better prices but shipping costs may eat into your savings.
https://global.ippodo-tea.co.jp/collections/matcha/products/matcha173512
https://ippodotea.com/collections/matcha/products/sayaka-100g
https://global.ippodo-tea.co.jp/collections/matcha/products/matcha175512
https://ippodotea.com/collections/matcha/products/ikuyo-100

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 9 07:46:05 2023 No.19687822 What's the best tea I can get in a K cup?

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 9 07:46:06 2023 No.19687823 Anyone used FGO's organic rosehips to make tea? I've seen some reviews on Amazon saying that it doesn't work very well for them for some reason, like they removed all the good parts of them or something. Though other reviews say it's great.

Anonymous Sat Sep 9 08:00:21 2023 No.19687844

>>19687724
O-cha has powdered sencha that's pretty cheap $7 for 60g
https://www.o-cha.com/matcha-powdered-green-tea/organic-powdered-sench.html
Their entry level matchas are also pretty cheap as far as matcha goes $8-$10 for 30g
https://www.o-cha.com/matcha-powdered-green-tea/uji-organic-matcha.html
https://www.o-cha.com/matcha-powdered-green-tea/uji-matcha-kiri.html
https://www.o-cha.com/matcha-powdered-green-tea/kyoto-matcha.html

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 9 08:02:52 2023 No.19687848 >>19687724 Sazen also has some cheaper matchas https://www.sazentea.com/en/products/c22-ceremonial-grade-matcha

Anonymous Sat Sep 9 08:27:35 2023 No.19687879

>>19687724
Sugimoto is supposed to be decent for bulk sencha, they have bulk ceremonial grade but it isn't cheap. They have some culinary grade which might be okay for drinking.
https://www.sugimotousa.com/catalog/product/all-tea/organic-daily-matcha/
They also have some bulk culinary grades, i think this is a larger portion of the same tea as above, but you might want to ask
https://www.sugimotousa.com/catalog/product/all-tea/organic-culinary-matcha/
And they have this slightly more expensive one.
https://www.sugimotousa.com/catalog/product/all-tea/premium-culinary-matcha/
The bulk is around $50 for 230g
I would try the small package first but this is probably one of you better bets when it comes to matcha that ships from the US.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 9 08:45:21 2023 No.19687904 >>19687822 Anyone?

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 9 08:58:10 2023 No.19687928 >>19686883 I just saw how it's made in a miniseries about tea in BBC Earth. apparently traditionally they bury it in the ground in bamboo tubes, leave it there for months and only later take it out and press it

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 9 09:48:07 2023 No.19688029 >>19687822 What is a k cup

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 9 09:48:41 2023 No.19688030 >>19688029 Keurig

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 9 10:02:38 2023 No.19688053 >>19687904 The best tea you can get in a k cup is buying the refillable k cups and putting looseleaf tea in them

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 9 10:21:47 2023 No.19688079 >>19687822 but why would you get tea in a k cup? you can just put loose leaves in a cup and add hot water

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 9 11:41:46 2023 No.19688189 >>19687724 Since you're drinking a ton of matcha, got any recommendations?

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 9 11:46:58 2023 No.19688192 did anyone have the bangwai big trees from FL? i am too poor for this cake, how is it?

Anonymous Sat Sep 9 12:08:14 2023 No.19688220

>>19688192
I got a sample bag. It was a nice tea. I got a cake of the small trees and that has been pretty solid. In comparison the big trees had more mouthfeel, more endurance a bit more complex flavor and more cha qi but i dunno if for me personally it would be worth spending 3x the price of the small trees.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 9 12:15:09 2023 No.19688227 >>19688220 nice. i have a small trees cake too, it's tasty. have you tried the jingmai gulan by any chance? i noticed it's described as their "flagship cake", wish i put a sample on my recent order.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 9 12:29:38 2023 No.19688246 >>19688227 I got a sample of that too. I thought it was nice but it didn't knock my socks off. I would be happy if i blind bought a cake of the jingmai gulan but i liked the small trees more.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 9 12:30:52 2023 No.19688248 >>19688227 >>19688246 That said your mileage may vary and i think its worth sampling if you get the chance, its good tea just not what ive been in the mood for lately

Anonymous Sat Sep 9 12:43:22 2023 No.19688267
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>>19687806
>>19687815
>>19687806
>>19687844
>>19687848
>>19687879
thanks bros. i'll look into these options. a brother is on the struggle in this economy.
>>19688189
right now the best matcha I have had was this stuff from Ippodo tea in Kyoto, Japan. I had to pay the insane custom fees when I bought it. The wife didn't yet take the kids from me so I spent my tax return money on tea fron Ippodo and Yunnan Sourcing. picrel.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 9 12:52:31 2023 No.19688281 >>19688246 thank you for the info. maybe i will sample it next year some time. they still have the 22 available, i wonder which is better.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 9 12:54:15 2023 No.19688287 >>19688281 Iirc from the listings he said 23 was stronger because of the drought

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 9 13:33:35 2023 No.19688356 Farmer leaf order coming early next week can't wait i'm drinking tea twice a day to make some space in my storage for it.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 9 13:37:22 2023 No.19688368 1. I often hear from coffee drinkers that commercial products are far inferior than small batches (i.e. Folgers vs self grind & brew). Is it the same with regards to tea? 2. I just bought peppermint tea loose leaf. How long should I brew and how much?

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 9 13:38:57 2023 No.19688371 >>19688368 i can try to sound as bad as logically possible here, but this guy is a moron on purpose

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 9 13:42:24 2023 No.19688378 >>19688371 What's wrong with peppermint tea?

Anonymous Sat Sep 9 13:45:00 2023 No.19688386

>>19688368
>Is it the same with regards to tea?
Yeah, a quality looseleaf tea from a good shop is on a totally different planet then bulk commodity tea in teabags.
>mint tea
A spoonfull for a mug, brew 3 or 4 minutes you can experiment with different lengths of time but i find that mint gets kind of weird tasting if you brew it too long.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 9 13:48:38 2023 No.19688391 >>19688386 Sounds good, thanks. I normally drink earl grey, but I can't drink that when I want to flush caffeine out during weekends so recently I tried peppermint tea.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 9 13:48:42 2023 No.19688392 >>19688368 >Is it the same with regards to tea? with good loose leaf, it's hardly even recognisable as the same drink

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 9 13:56:57 2023 No.19688410 >>19688368 >Is it the same with regards to tea? It's even bigger for tea IMO. The tea world is huge and really varied and most of the good stuff tastes nothing like the average supermarket tea.

Anonymous Sat Sep 9 14:37:27 2023 No.19688471

>>19686866
speaking of tian jian, what are the best places to buy it? ive been told YS, which seems ok. what are some good tian jian? theres this one production ive posted a bunch, the 2011 cnnp wild anhua tian jian that i loved, ive had a few other tian jians which were alright but nothing like that one

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 9 14:41:03 2023 No.19688477 >>19688471 same poster i think it just might be the fact its wild? hows 'wild' tea different from other tea if at all?

Anonymous Sat Sep 9 15:08:27 2023 No.19688542

>>19688477
Wild is a pretty nebulous term when it comes to tea. Its essentially a claim that the tea comes from old untended tea plants, basically abandoned old tea gardens in the woods. Sometimes this is true, sometimes it isint. Ideally it means actual old trees in the woods, or at least mixed gardens that aren't just young bushes in your typical tea plantation.
You are talking about that tian jian from chawangshop right? I had that one it was pretty good. I really haven't tried the stuff from ys but i think they have the best selection.
YS did do their own commissioned wild batch of tian jian, thats probably worth sampling
https://yunnansourcing.com/collections/hunan-tian-jian-tea/products/2021-cha-yu-lin-gao-ma-village-wild-tian-jian-in-basket
I think w2t might have done one too
Ys also has this wild gao jia shan production as well. I haven't tried it but ive had another wild production from gao jia shan factory and it was really good, so im guessing this one is nice
Based on his descriptions these seem like they would have a similar vibe to the chawangshop tea
https://yunnansourcing.com/collections/hunan-tian-jian-tea/products/2009-gao-jia-shan-wild-tian-jian-in-a-bamboo-basket
https://yunnansourcing.com/collections/hunan-tian-jian-tea/products/2012-gao-jia-shan-wild-tian-jian-in-a-bamboo-basket

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 9 15:10:36 2023 No.19688550 >>19688356 Nice. What did you pick up?

Anonymous Sat Sep 9 15:11:17 2023 No.19688553

>>19688477
In theory, wild teas are unmanaged by humans, which is to say that they aren’t actively pruned and pesticides are not used. In practice pesticides may still be used and the tea sold as ‘wild’ anyway. In practice unpruned tea trees, allowed to grow very big, produce fewer, more flavourful leaves. Additionally bug bites cause the tea trees to produce compounds to reduce insect predation, which happen to also be compounds humans find flavourful in tea.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 9 15:14:10 2023 No.19688559 I've never had a cup of tea I enjoyed before. I don't know if that's because tea just isn't my thing or if I've never had good tea. Life is complicated.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 9 15:15:14 2023 No.19688562 >>19688559 You've never had good tea. Genuine question: what brought you here?

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 9 15:16:19 2023 No.19688566 >>19688559 Asking for recommendations? What kinda flavors are you interested in? Rather, what kind of tea did you try so far?

Anonymous Sat Sep 9 15:17:18 2023 No.19688574

>>19688542
i was talking about this one from YS, idk if theyre the same?
https://yunnansourcing.com/products/2011-cnnp-wild-anhua-tian-jian-tea-of-hunan?variant=42982826803399
these teas look and sound great though thanks im definitely going try these, maybe the stuff from w2t too. also whoever recommended me to buy the xiaguan tuos last thread they were great, definitely look into sheng more

i might also try roasted and unroasted(?) oolongs since thats definitely the area (along with sheng) that ive gone the least into. ive had a wuyi or two but thats about it. ive heard really good things about dancong oolongs though

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 9 15:18:57 2023 No.19688578 >>19688574 ill post my thoughts on the teas i got since i know a few people wanted to hear about the xiaguan tuos and one of the anhua dark teas i got

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 9 15:46:25 2023 No.19688650 >>19688550 Oriental beauty, Nuo Gu wan because i tried the small trees last time, Fen Shui Ling Oolong Black and Yingpan Shan Black because i was running low.

Anonymous Sat Sep 9 15:47:37 2023 No.19688652

>>19688574
Yeah there are totally unroasted oolongs, pretty popular.
Oolong covers a really wide range, good stuff. I would recommended checking it out when you get the chance.
This guy has a sampler of some interesting yunnan oolongs, i enjoyed it.
https://tea-expert.net/magazin-kitajskogo-chaya/ulun/50087-13-yunnan-wu-long-yang-pin-bao
Ignore that the site is in Russian its a Chinese tea shop based in china.
Dancongs, taiwan oolongs (im a big fan of oriental beauty) and of course wuyi oolongs. I would probably drink nothing but wuyi oolongs if i could afford to.

Anonymous Sat Sep 9 16:02:05 2023 No.19688699
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Could someone please give me some advice on how to cold brew leftover oolong leaves? I feel bad throwing them away after a session knowing they're still so tasty

Its also a fucking heatwave where I love and I want that shit on ice and injected into my blood please

Pic unrelated

Anonymous Sat Sep 9 16:09:06 2023 No.19688717
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>>19687823
Just made some this morning and can confirm. I steeped for 15 minutes at 180 degrees and all I got was a brownish yellow liquid (should be a pretty bright red from what I've seen) that had a similar dull taste to what I've gotten in the past when using teabags. Disappointing since the smallest bag of these (from this company at least) was 1lb.

Though pic related what sort of what mine looked like, and that's apparently right based on this site.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 9 16:10:54 2023 No.19688720 File: 69 KB, 500x335, Rose-Hip-Tea[1].jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>19688717 Meanwhile most places say it should look like this. Plus it didn't have much taste to speak of.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 9 16:16:49 2023 No.19688737 >>19688650 >Fen Shui Ling Oolong Black interested to hear some other opinions on this, i have it also how is the nuo gu wan small trees?

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 9 16:17:48 2023 No.19688739 >>19688737 It's nice and light not too bitter so i like it, nothing too fancy but nice for hot days. I like the other oolong black he's selling so will see when i receive that one.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 9 17:06:10 2023 No.19688832 File: 415 KB, 1209x1209, 20230909_180329.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>19688699 Iced oolong baby Just chuck the spent stuff in a jug in the fridge and see what you get after a day or two. I found it kind of weak when I tried it though.

Anonymous Sat Sep 9 17:07:48 2023 No.19688839
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From pastebin:
>Places to avoid
>Teavana (overperfumed, expensive, shit quality), starbucks (same shit), any place that sells lots of flavored tea that isn't french.

What's so special about french flavored teas?

Anonymous Sat Sep 9 17:18:31 2023 No.19688870

>>19688839
Nothing people just enjoy drinking "fancy" french stuff. Mariage frères is really expensive for what it is, flavored tea have bad tea quality and the non flavored are overpriced low to mid quality for the most part. You can find decent stuff but it will always be expensive. (french guy who started drinking tea with mariage)

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 9 17:20:54 2023 No.19688880 >>19688839 i used to go to teavana and empty their cold blueberry green tea into a route 44 cup from sonic. the employees never said anything. i have never paid for teavana.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 9 17:28:39 2023 No.19688900 >>19688839 Its a meme but also kind of true

Anonymous Sat Sep 9 17:39:36 2023 No.19688915

>>19687411
>W2T skull teapot
I don't care for the skull design but but W2T's other tea ware it probably really is a limited production handmade piece. In which case the price is not that unreasonable. Still seems like it could be a bit cheaper.

>>19687928
>Deang Sour tea
>I just saw how it's made in a miniseries about tea in BBC Earth.
Do you know what episode? I would love to see it. There not a lot on it in English.

>>19688267
Sounds rough. I hope things look up for you soon.
>I had to pay the insane custom fees when I bought it.
European I presume? I do feel it crazy how much many European countries gouge their citizens on small imports.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 9 18:00:47 2023 No.19688954 Is laobanzang puer even remotely worth the money?

Anonymous Sat Sep 9 18:01:05 2023 No.19688955

>>19688915
>Do you know what episode?
the series is "One cup, a Thousand Stories". I believe it was Episode 1
they also showed a gong fu session on a fishing ship and a cheap, rural tea place, among other things. the series is adressed to a wide audience and not tea enthusiasts of course, so it doesn't go super in-depth, but there isn't exactly a lot of choice in western tea documentaries out there

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 9 18:03:00 2023 No.19688961 >>19688559 you've probably never had good tea. there is so much variety in quality tea that I believe there is not a single person who would dislike all of it.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 9 19:09:40 2023 No.19689124 Should I cold brew my leftover dancing? I started a session but only got like 4 cups in

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 9 21:13:03 2023 No.19689421 >>19689124 >Should I cold brew my leftover dancing? Sure why not. You are going to get rid of it anyway.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 9 21:32:40 2023 No.19689474 >>19687406 I was curious about that one, but didn't pick it up in the end. got the 2023 Fa Zhan He instead

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 10 01:25:10 2023 No.19690145 >>19689474 >2023 Fa Zhan He Everyone seems to like that one so I bought it too. Normally I would have gotten the 2023 Huey Wa as well but I need to save cash right now.

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 10 03:12:07 2023 No.19690396 >>19690145 >Fa Zhan He Its really good tea

Anonymous Sun Sep 10 09:02:25 2023 No.19691257

>>19688839
It's a reference to Damman Frères.
Most shops selling flavored tea, tisanes and blends of all sorts almost never carry good quality loose leaf tea as well, but Damman does.
Looking back at it I could have worded it clearly instead of using an allusion.

Anonymous Sun Sep 10 09:06:07 2023 No.19691262

drinking some Dancong I got from fullchea. I don't know much about dancong, but it's pretty tasty. they don't list what kind of dancong it is, but I'm guessing almond? cause that's what it tastes like to me
I'll say that I only started liking it once I brewed it gong fu with a ton of material, the traditional way. weird how that works.

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 10 11:18:23 2023 No.19691460 >>19691262 Which one did you get?

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 10 13:40:22 2023 No.19691671 >>19687406 Try some yue guang bai my friend.

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 10 14:37:03 2023 No.19691767 File: 1.34 MB, 4000x1844, dancong.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>19691460 the "top grade dancong 125 grams"

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 10 16:55:35 2023 No.19692098 File: 535 KB, 2200x2200, slurp.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>19686639 got this at the dollar store 2 years ago and I haven't been able to find it again. What can I buy that's similar?

Anonymous Sun Sep 10 17:02:17 2023 No.19692121
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>on a trip with friends
>need me some fucking tea
>we have a water kettle but no tea
>i pull out one of three emergency sachets of tea that I keep in my wallet at all times
>all expressions around me are of shock and awe
For a minute they thought I just pulled a condom out for some reason.
Surely I'm not the only one here who does this

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 10 17:27:32 2023 No.19692180 >>19692121 I do this but have only needed to use it once. There are nasty, faded, sachets in every bag I own + more in wallet and locker at work.

Anonymous Sun Sep 10 17:48:11 2023 No.19692238

>>19688954
>Is laobanzang puer even remotely worth the money?
The real stuff probably not. "Worth" is subjective but by the time you are buying legit laobanzang gushu you are probably deep in the diminishing returns curve. Some of the greater banzang area tea is much more reasonable however. https://cspuerh.com/ sells legit laobanzang if you want to try some (note that they also sell banzang area tea).

I wonder what ever happened to the anon who accidentally bought laobanzang at an upscale NYC tea shop. He never posed tasting notes did he?

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 10 17:49:29 2023 No.19692242 >>19692121 i don't but i will now, last time i went camping i was close to death

Anonymous Sun Sep 10 19:12:01 2023 No.19692420

I really want to get some high quality rock oolongs. YS seems to have decent but samey ones, but I hear there's much better out there, and since it's been my favorite style of tea from first sip, I'd like to sample even better options.

What's the best website for this?

Anonymous Sun Sep 10 19:27:32 2023 No.19692480

>>19692420
This is where I buy all my fancier yancha.
https://oldwaystea.com/
They sell sample boxes which are a pretty good value if you want to try a bunch of different stuff.
https://oldwaystea.com/products/2022-oolong-sample
2023 teas will come later in the fall I believe, I'll probably buy some then but you don't really need to wait. My wallet is also in shambles from the recent farmer leaf sale.

There are some other posters here who are into yancha, but I don't remember exactly where the buy it and I don't want to guess and get it wrong.

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 10 19:35:11 2023 No.19692509 >>19692121 I take extra teabags from the fancy airport lounges just in case

Anonymous Sun Sep 10 19:37:46 2023 No.19692514

>>19692238
>Worth" is subjective but by the time you are buying legit laobanzang gushu you are probably deep in the diminishing returns curve
Yeah that's what i figured, plus the fact that its the most famous / prestigious tea region along with bingdao and a few villages in yiwu so its in high demand domestically for gifts and that sort of thing.>
I guess if i really want to find out i can pay $30-$40 for a 7g sample. I wonder if i would actually be able to rate a tea objectively after paying that much for it.

Anonymous Sun Sep 10 19:40:51 2023 No.19692522

>>19692420
>I really want to get some high quality rock oolongs
Essence of tea is pretty damn solid for the high end, i strongly recommended their yancha if it's in your budget.
Chawangshop has a very good price to quality ratio, ive been happy with the stuff from them ive tried.
I suggest buying yancha that is at least 6 months to a years old, if the roast is too fresh it can mask some of the other flavors

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 10 19:53:54 2023 No.19692558 As an upstanding Southron man I feel I would be betraying my heritage to drink anything other than sweet iced black tea.

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 10 22:00:53 2023 No.19692901 >>19692558 Sweet tea is pretty good

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 10 22:37:43 2023 No.19692998 >>19692558 >Southron >Standing up

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 11 00:56:02 2023 No.19693419 Anybody grow their own tea? I'm starting to grow a lot of crazy shit in my garden and I want a solid camelia sinensis to add to the list. Good cultivar's etc?

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 11 01:33:39 2023 No.19693533 >>19693419 Curious about this as well, can't comment speifically on tea but camellias are not hard to grow and you can look at looking after ericaceous plants How you source the good cultivars I have no idea, hopefully some anon out there has info

Anonymous Mon Sep 11 01:35:12 2023 No.19693535
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>>19693419
>>19693533
camforest.com has been recommended here before but I can't personally speak to their quality. You're probably looking for a cultivar hardy to cooler temps. "Cooler" in this case refers to Northern India, however.
I imagine growing a plant for a couple of years is a pretty involved feat, but it would be cool to see it done. Good luck.

Anonymous Mon Sep 11 01:43:51 2023 No.19693562

>>19693535
Thanks. I'd consider Northern India on the cool side. I'm about as south and west as it get in the US, so I'm currently growing starfruit, mango trees, passion fruit, buddhas hand etc. I can probably grow any type of camelia.
I'll check out camforest, thanks for the link.

Also, regarding herbal infusions, anybody try passionflower tea? I have passiflora incarnata - the kind used for the herbal tea- at pretty much max size and was thinking about making some. Forget if it's just the flowers or the leaves that can work too.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 11 01:46:56 2023 No.19693568 File: 64 KB, 612x408, chinese-chrysanthemum-tea-on-old-wooden[1].jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Will chrysanthemum tea really cool my qi? By which I guess I mean are there any health benefits?

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 11 01:55:01 2023 No.19693599 >>19693568 health is about exercise and eating right. it will help you psychologically if you let it, but that's true of anything

Anonymous Mon Sep 11 02:02:06 2023 No.19693620

>>19693562
>I can probably grow any type of camelia.
Nice, I wish I could grow tea where I live. Then again I hate heat to its a trade off.

to second the other anons recommendation, https://camforest.com is the primary vendor of tea plants in North America. I don't know of any other shop (in NA) that sells as many tea varieties. They may even be able to give you some advice on what will grow best in your area.

Anonymous Mon Sep 11 04:19:02 2023 No.19693994

>>19688839
>What's so special about french flavored teas?
A couple of the big french tea vendors have higher quality flavored tea then is typical. Probably cultural tradition or something. A lot of flavored tea is made with the cheapest commodity tea and herbs. Often blended with a stronger emphasis on appearance or theme than flavor profile. Not all western style flavored tea blends are bad but there is a disproportionate number of shops that sell mediocre flavored tea.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 11 05:00:44 2023 No.19694108 Does anyone else having their "Folgers" for Tea? What you make when you just want satisfactory consistency? I use English Breakfast from Benner (ALDI brand) and local whole milk for my morning milk teas - cheap, tasty, energizing, and filling.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 11 05:43:41 2023 No.19694188 >>19694108 I am not sure it quite fits your criteria because it is not a brand but cheap mid-roast Tieguanyin styles teas are personal favorite when I need something easy and reliable. It was my go to tea for working on projects in grad school.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 11 07:03:08 2023 No.19694291 >>19687724 hibiki-an is my go to for anything Japanese. Their prices aren't the lowest but the quality you get is pretty fucking good

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 11 07:05:30 2023 No.19694295 >>19694108 Yeah, basically whatever loose leaf dogshit black tea I can find at the market that I can dump over ice and add milk/sugar to. I drink it more often than my actual good shit lately.

Anonymous Mon Sep 11 07:55:31 2023 No.19694362

>>19693419
Im growing a single tea bush, might plant some more this spring. Im up in the colder regions and I'm kind of pushing it in terms of temperatures. Last winter the bush died back to the ground but it came back strong this spring.
In your climate it should be very easy to grow. The only concern you might have is some prefer paetial shade to full direct sun. The nursery can probably answer any questions you have.
I got my tea plant from camforest. I think they usually refresh their stock late winter/early sping. Spend the extra miney to get bigger plants, it will save you a few years of growing.
If you wanna grow some big ass tea plants go for thr assimica varietal.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 11 08:39:46 2023 No.19694404 >>19694108 the cheapest big factory shu pu-erh I can find

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 11 11:36:25 2023 No.19694569 just drank a cup of ripe pu-erh I forgot about it tastes so weird when it's completely cold. like earthy chocolate milk or something

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 11 13:18:03 2023 No.19694707 >>19694569 Its prerry interesting how much the flavor of tea changes as it cools.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 11 14:16:16 2023 No.19694780 >>19694569 I poured some spent shu I boiled for an hour to get basically a really reduced shu concentrate in a of bottle of milk once to flavour it. Had some really interesting cereal for a couple of days.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 11 15:26:32 2023 No.19694916 File: 15 KB, 275x312, Dbo4wL2XkAIiAmk.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] RELEASE IT FROM CUSTOMS ALREADY

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 11 15:45:18 2023 No.19694948 File: 9 KB, 284x177, descarga.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] do people outside of south america know about this tea at all? we call it Cedron, scientific name Aloysia citrodora its my favorite tea in the world no cap

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 11 15:57:54 2023 No.19694976 >>19694948 in the uk we call it lemon verbena, it's available but i'd say not the most popular herbal tea, probably only people who are into tea have heard of it time to try some i guess

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 11 16:15:53 2023 No.19695011 >>19694188 Just means you have a higher standard, no problem with that

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 11 16:59:45 2023 No.19695099 File: 38 KB, 500x500, 51dSIYcg-PL.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Would you drink something called 1001 Mystery?

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 11 17:19:10 2023 No.19695151 >>19695099 Only if it was very expensive.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 11 17:57:32 2023 No.19695219 >>19695099 I've got a couple of hyleys since they're actually sold locally around me, its pretty good given the price. I'd pick it up, even if the tea is shit the tin it comes in is really pretty so could just use that to store tea.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 11 18:09:26 2023 No.19695246 >>19695099 Looks like something troonshine adjacent

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 11 18:13:41 2023 No.19695255 早上好中国现在我有冰淇淋

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 11 18:16:28 2023 No.19695266 >>19694948 >Cedron I don't think so. I went to Trinidad and learned about chadon beni, but cedron did not come up. Soursop is my favorite from the region, the tea can cure pain from gingivitis. When not in pain, though, I prefer valerian.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 11 18:56:04 2023 No.19695362 >>19694948 I've had yerba mate with herbs that included cedron, but idk what the stuff itself tastes like

Anonymous Mon Sep 11 19:46:31 2023 No.19695467

hey guys, is there a good place to buy tea with free shipping (I'm in the US)? i want to try different things but i really don't want to pay $10-15 on shipping for a $10-15 packet of tea. at this rate I'm gonna end up buying whatever i can find on amazon just because of the shipping

Anonymous Mon Sep 11 19:59:22 2023 No.19695505

>>19695467
Moving past the "You always pay for shipping it's either a separate line item or included in the cost of the tea", the US website for yunnan sourcing has free shipping over $50.
https://yunnansourcing.us/pages/free-shipping-when-you-spend-50-or-more
Farmerleaf has free shipping over $30
https://www.farmer-leaf.com/

Nobody really does free shipping for small orders because they also do not want to pay $10-15 dollars in shipping for a $10-15 packet of tea. I am pretty sure there's decent tea on amazon from the big producers, but I don't know if any of it is sample sized.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 11 20:00:27 2023 No.19695510 >>19695467 I know Farmerleaf has global free shipping above 30$, but I'm sure there are some more local US-based options too. any tea you want to try in particular?

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 11 20:01:17 2023 No.19695513 >buy fu cha >it arrives >live bugs inside Thanks Scott.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 11 20:02:16 2023 No.19695516 >>19695513 maybe the fungus has gained sentience. any pics?

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 11 20:02:49 2023 No.19695519 >>19695516 I already threw it out.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 11 20:30:25 2023 No.19695574 >>19695513 but but but I thought it was only awazon that had boogies. What will I do with my misplaced superiority now?

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 11 21:07:45 2023 No.19695654 >>19695362 it's very citrus-ish. the leaves smell like a fainter lemon too, but more herbal in taste. it's sort of what i imagine lemongrass tastes like, but ive never tasted lemongrass

Anonymous Mon Sep 11 21:13:42 2023 No.19695665
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>>19695467
https://verdanttea.com/ has free USA based shipping over $39. Also check out their intro deal.
https://verdanttea.com/five-teas-for-5

>>19695513
What production of Fu from YS?

>>19695519
>I already threw it out.
You should have given it to me instead. If it was a whole brick I would have gladly paid shipping. The booklice (order Psocoptera) are harmless, your probably already have some living in your house. Just temporarily freeze or desiccate the the tea to kill them. If your puerh is humid enough to properly age it is humid enough for booklice to live.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 11 21:13:49 2023 No.19695666 >>19695519 Which fu brick so i know to avoid it?

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 11 22:43:53 2023 No.19695895 File: 51 KB, 960x640, 50110-gaba-sheng-zhuan-cha-01-960x640.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] GABA sheng what do you think bros? any chance its good?

Anonymous Mon Sep 11 23:02:22 2023 No.19695984
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I said i was going to order all ripe this winter but i had to grab a raw cake.
2021 tea spirit cake from menkgku tf. If its anywhere near as good as the 2020 version it's a steal at $45 + $5 shipping for the 365g from tea-expert.net . i think i paid $85 + shipping for the 500g 2020 version "good recipe great job" or whatever it was called.
The 2020 version was the best factory cake i bought last year and probably my favorite overall

Anonymous Mon Sep 11 23:46:45 2023 No.19696115
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I just realized I forgot my tea today. Feels like I am transforming into a puerh lesbian from the caffeine withdrawal. Like little things are pissing me off that would not normally bother me. BRB gonna make some TGY.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 12 00:12:32 2023 No.19696159 File: 102 KB, 700x467, Can tea melt steel beams .jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] What tea is everyone having today?

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 12 00:14:55 2023 No.19696166 File: 3.80 MB, 4624x3468, 1687965069734282.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>19696159 Gunpowder Green Tea. Same as every day.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 12 00:16:11 2023 No.19696172 >>19696159 Earl Grey moonlight from Adagio. It's surprisingly good

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 12 00:17:47 2023 No.19696175 >>19695513 This terrifies me. Is it worth opening and examining each and every cake before putting it in storage?

Anonymous Tue Sep 12 00:33:27 2023 No.19696222
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>>19696175
>Is it worth opening and examining each and every cake before putting it in storage?
It is a good idea to do in general just to make sure the tea looks ok. Mind you the bugs you get on heicha mostly only do as much harm as you are squeamish and are not hard to eradicate. They are easier to get rid of if they don't infest your whole pumidor however.

While I prefer not having them on my tea, bugs are probably the least dangerous contaminant it could have. I am far more concerned about potential pesticide, pollution, and mycotoxins. Even if you intentionally ate booklice and silverfish they are unlikely to do you any harm.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 12 00:39:44 2023 No.19696233 >>19696222 My only reluctance to this is the difficulty it is to wrap up the cakes as neatly as they originally come. I'll try to get over it and inspect my cakes from now on.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 12 00:40:18 2023 No.19696234 >>19695513 You vill drink ze bugz

Anonymous Tue Sep 12 01:10:52 2023 No.19696308

Is this correct?

Green - high catechin content
White - high catechin content (is this true for shoumei?)
Oolong (low oxidation) - high catechin content
Oolong (high oxidation) - low catechin content
Red - low catechin content
Young pu'er - unsure
Aged pu'er - low catechin content
Young ripe pu'er - lowest catechin content
Aged ripe pu'er - unsure

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 12 01:15:05 2023 No.19696323 >>19696159 Cheap xiaguan tuo Nuce and smokey

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 12 01:16:11 2023 No.19696328 >>19696308 Who cares

Anonymous Tue Sep 12 01:23:23 2023 No.19696346

>>19696233
>My only reluctance to this is the difficulty it is to wrap up the cakes as neatly as they originally come.
You were planing on opening them eventually right? It just means it happens sooner rather than later. I like to see the tea I just bought anyways. I just kind of accept that my wrappers will never be as nice as when they came from the factory but if you wanted you could probably get good with practice.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 12 01:37:04 2023 No.19696373 >>19696328 me >:(

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 12 01:51:54 2023 No.19696406 >>19696373 Quality Japanese green tea and especially good quality matcha are the way to go if you want catechin, they have much more than anything else

Anonymous Tue Sep 12 03:44:42 2023 No.19696734

>>19696159
I made some cloud and mist from Red Blossom. Tasted fine and better than the bottled green tea I'd been drinking but didn't seem like anything special to me. Probably gonna alternate between the green, oolong, and black samples I ordered to see if I can find anything I especially like. I think my palate is just shit.

Anonymous Tue Sep 12 06:59:41 2023 No.19697136
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>>19696159
2020 raw mo lie from health tea house and I can't remember which factory.
It's nothing special, it has lost the more herbal quality it had when I first got it and it hasn't yet acquired a more venerable old age taste.
At least it was cheap and my order from Taiwan should arrive soon enough.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 12 07:19:14 2023 No.19697154 >>19697136 Nice pitcher full of puer. Im guessing that tea was from tea nerd / dr puer They seem like an interesting brand and i wish it was easier to buy most of their teas.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 12 07:46:49 2023 No.19697177 >>19696159 today I'll be drinking Long Jing

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 12 08:48:14 2023 No.19697260 >>19696323 which one are you having?

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 12 08:49:15 2023 No.19697262 >>19697154 >They seem like an interesting brand what makes you say that?

Anonymous Tue Sep 12 10:14:29 2023 No.19697349
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>>19696159
yesterday it was the Haiwan 9978, today it's the Farmerleaf Fa Zhan He. I was stressed out over something so I avoided sheng, but now it's behind me so I can overdose on caffeine all I want
btw anyone else feel like the 9978 brews out more quickly than some other ripe? I swear my Dayi 7572 goes on for noticably longer. maybe it's the higher stick content in the 9978. the taste itself is very nice though, something about it reminded me of buttermilk recently.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 12 11:03:21 2023 No.19697409 >>19692121 I bring ginger tea when I travel in case I get an upset stomach, not for tea withdrawals.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 12 11:21:40 2023 No.19697434 >>19697260 >which one are you having? 2009 te ji I bought 2 kilos of them a few years ago when they were $16 or $20 for a sleeve of 5 tuos. They are very standard

Anonymous Tue Sep 12 11:28:07 2023 No.19697446

>>19697262
>what makes you say that?
Good question.
They have a pretty large product line and their Chinese domestic prices are really low. I guess western tea collectors generally assume their stuff is cheap and unremarkable but ive seen some positive reviews. I kinda like that they try to cover a big range of classical presentations like half kilo bricks of yellow leaves, kilo baskets of loose maocha, melons and just about all the other weird form factors that you can think of. They also seem to cover a lot of regions/villages for whatever that's worth on tea that cheap. Seems like they kind of live up to the puer nerd branding. Who knows though, im too lazy to buy from taobao so i haven't tried any of their stuff yet, it very well may just be cheap bland bush tea.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 12 11:30:18 2023 No.19697448 >>19697349 The higher amount of stems in the haiwan probably results in it brewing out quicker.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 12 11:48:10 2023 No.19697457 >>19696159 fun reading everyone's tea choices. i think i recognise some of you just from that. i am drinking the FL huangpian grandpa style, which is my choice for lazy sipping at my desk lately

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 12 12:15:54 2023 No.19697496 >>19697446 Thanks for the answer. I remember seeing a cake by this brand on Fullchea, I think someone even praised it on here. The """"""bingdao"""""" one.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 12 15:52:14 2023 No.19697950 >>19697446 I had a sample of one of their "Yiwu" cakes. It seemed on par for the price. It was drinkable but unremarkable. Would probably make a good daily drinker sort of tea.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 12 16:00:38 2023 No.19697971 File: 16 KB, 225x225, hat questions mahjong.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] what are the best value semi-aged raws you can recommend?

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 12 18:53:53 2023 No.19698392 >>19697434 I recently did a large purchase like that with the Xiao Fa ripe, but it was this year. You got a good deal. I love $15, $20 for a half kilo.

Anonymous Tue Sep 12 19:53:33 2023 No.19698553

While my attempt at getting a good deal on tea by using a sketchy third party marketplace to buy reputable tea fell though. I think the third party marketplace I tried to use is simply dead. I did get my money back however, so all is well. Would have been nice to have gotten some tea half off though. Oh well.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 12 21:29:28 2023 No.19698834 File: 460 KB, 2048x2048, IMG_9576_1024x1024@2x.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>19696159 Drinking some dank aged kang today.

Anonymous Tue Sep 12 21:38:43 2023 No.19698871

>>19698834
Man there are some fully developed tea seed pods in there.
Im usually not too squeamish when it comes to ugly tea but ive been too chicken to get a kang brick. How its it? Also im obligated to suggest simmering it if you haven't already. ~8g in 1.25 litres of water, low simmer for about 20 minutes with the lid on.

Anonymous Tue Sep 12 21:40:29 2023 No.19698878

>>19698553
Bummer. I found some old US tea store that had a bunch of old puer a few years ago. Site was still up and let me order, tea never shipped, they never replied to emails, i had to do a chargeback. I was pretty bummed, they had fantastic prices on some old factory cakes i really like.

Anonymous Tue Sep 12 22:35:11 2023 No.19699063

>>19698871
>squeamish when it comes to ugly tea
I have not found anything too nasty yet but it it does have huge twigs and the occasional bit of non-tea plant matter. I like to think they pruned the tree but did not want to waste the clippings. I don't doubt finding rocks, string, feathers, or hair are also possibles. The tea leaves themselves while coarse don't seem rotten or otherwise unpleasant.

>How its it?
Good, Its got a nice mellow aged heicha taste going on. Does not taste funky at all IMO. If it has one fault I think the longevity is lower then average per a given weight. Probably due to all the twigs and extra coarse material.

>simmering
I have yet to try that but I plan to.

Anonymous Tue Sep 12 22:44:48 2023 No.19699090

>>19699063
>If it has one fault I think the longevity is lower then average per a given weight. Probably due to all the twigs and extra coarse material.
Yeah i get the impression that these older kang bricks were basically made with the stuff they sorted out of their tea productions. If we are talking 80s-90s era my understanding is that the government mandated that the factories make x amout of tea each year to be sent to tibet but there were minimal if any quality standards for this tea so they just kind of used whatever they could. There was still central planning in the economy in that time so it's possible they were actually sent specific material to make these bricks. I don't think there were specific factories that made tea just for tibet but maybe im wrong.

Anonymous Tue Sep 12 23:01:57 2023 No.19699154

>>19699090
>I don't think there were specific factories that made tea just for tibet but maybe im wrong.
No my understanding (from vendor descriptions) is that there are specific factories that make kang and a lot of the tea came from large plantations in Sichuan province. There is a long tradition of making it for export. I think kang is just typically made with low grade leaf. There are not that many places that grow and process heicha maocha so I doubt they are redirecting tea from elsewhere. Most heicha producing areas already have their own variation on "border tea".
Ref: https://www.chawangshop.com/1993-sichuan-ya-an-tf-kang-zhuan-aged-tibetan-brick-500g.html

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 12 23:10:04 2023 No.19699177 here's an interesting study on function of cold vs. hot brew in green tea (sencha) https://www.jircas.go.jp/sites/default/files/publication/jarq/52-01-01_001-006_MONOBE.pdf

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 12 23:41:32 2023 No.19699241 >>19699154 Thanks, that makes sense, funny to imagne that stuff being made for export but i guess those big heicha bricks weren't pretty in general back then.

Anonymous Tue Sep 12 23:55:44 2023 No.19699266

I recently found a nice handmade Japanese teacup at a rummage store. Not incredibly fancy but quality and has a makers seal on it. It also has the name of a sushi place written in Japanese on the side. I can't find the exact restaurant because there are multiple ones with the same name and the way it is written is ambiguous. The thing I find puzzling is teacup seems nice enough that you would think any restaurant fancy enough to use it would also be classy enough to not put their name on their cups. Perhaps it was made as a souvenir?

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 13 00:14:14 2023 No.19699300 I'm addicted to Chai.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 13 02:14:56 2023 No.19699616 >>19699266 Interesting, the japs make some pretty nice ceramics. >>19699300 How do you make it?

Anonymous Wed Sep 13 02:38:15 2023 No.19699699
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>look for local tea shops
>every google hit is Asian sugarwater with milk and boba
Now let's pretend I'm retard (this'll be an easy exercise). How do I query google for real local tea shops?

Anonymous Wed Sep 13 02:41:16 2023 No.19699711
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>>19699699
Your best bet for finding a good local tea shop that isn't some boba sugarwater thing for obese Philippinos, is to find a local non-franchise coffee house, that happens to also server tea.

Anonymous Wed Sep 13 02:54:30 2023 No.19699743

>>19699699
it can be hard to find a decent tea house in many places. I only know one usable one over here and I live in a capital city. outside of that it's either boba places for sugar-addicted teen girls or tisane & scented tea places for middle-aged women

Anonymous Wed Sep 13 03:38:14 2023 No.19699847

>>19699699
I mean, how many boba places can be around you with in a 50 mile radius? Just look through the 20 listings and find the ones that aren't puns on boba.
For me that would be two. Three if you count the middle aged white woman hangout that probably serves bigelow tea with finger sandwiches and what passes as a scone.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 13 04:14:06 2023 No.19699941 >>19699300 Brown hands typed this.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 13 04:15:52 2023 No.19699944 >>19695099 sure, but these types of packaging tend to have mediocre tea.

Anonymous Wed Sep 13 05:15:13 2023 No.19700074

I bought only cheap cakes until now, but I'm getting a bit interested in these mengku raws.
Anyone got any thoughts on this one or alternatively, suggestions for any cake around the same kind of price point?
I wonder where is the price that diminishing returns really start to kick in.
https://kingteamall.com/products/2006-mengku-rongshi-da-xue-shan-lao-shu-cha-big-snow-mountain-old-tree-cake-400g-puerh-raw-tea-sheng-cha?variant=31449424167015

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 13 06:48:34 2023 No.19700251 drinking some 2008 Banpen raw. medicinal bitterness and quite the strong kick. can't imagine what this would have tasted like fresh. could use 10 more years

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 13 06:50:04 2023 No.19700253 >>19699711 >a local non-franchise coffee house, that happens to also server tea. Never seen one serve good tea. They usually only have slightly more upscale tea bags.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 13 06:57:34 2023 No.19700261 I like unsweetened black tea

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 13 08:54:07 2023 No.19700417 >>19700253 Same here. Those godawful infusion mixes too.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 13 09:28:00 2023 No.19700452 >>19699699 Yeah, i feel you bro. Seems like, in the span of a year, every asian immigrant in my city opened a boba shop. The closest proper tea store for me would be in the capital city of my neighbouring country.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 13 12:33:43 2023 No.19700768 File: 81 KB, 1024x989, 1663139087350641.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] My tea is out for delivery.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 13 13:31:12 2023 No.19700857 >>19700417 Or the tea bags have sugar for some reason, genuinely do not understand this. >>19700768 What did you order anon?

Anonymous Wed Sep 13 13:53:40 2023 No.19700911

>>19700074
I haven't tried any of the pre 2008 or so mengku rongshi productions, im a big fan of their modern teas, at least the ones ive tried.
I know they have a ton of releases from 2007 you can still find easily for around $40. The one you linked is more premium then those cheaper ones, it should be nice but it can be hard to say. I would suggest sampling instead of blind buying. 2007 is the apex of the original puer bubble, it popped in the middle of the year, and so a lot of mediocre tea got pressed in the spring of 2007. That doesn't mean all 2007 tea is bad or mediocre but it's definitely a consideration.
I have specifically had this tea and can recommended it as quite good, definitely worth grabbing a 100g sample
https://tea-expert.net/mengku/10098-benwei-dacheng-1kg-2020
This is the 2016 version of that tea and the price is good, probably a solid pickup, i like that its a 500g cake
https://tea-expert.net/mengku/10084-mengku-benwei-dacheng-500-2016
The arbor king cakes are also popular and supposed to be quite nice, this guy has two versions at good price points, he mentions the difference in taste in the description
https://tea-expert.net/mengku/mengku-qiao-mu-wang-2011
https://tea-expert.net/mengku/mengku-qiao-mu-wang-2012
I would suggest starting out with one of the cakes i linked if you want to try out that factory. I also have to mention the prices of that factories teas on KTM can be a bit high, im still kicking myself, about 5 years ago he had loads of their teas for dirt cheap, but prices have gone up a lot in general since then.

Anonymous Wed Sep 13 14:10:59 2023 No.19700957

>>19700857
I got the Fa Zhan He, the Huey Wa, and the Miyun from Farmer Leaf. Kind of a smattering of the lower end teas. I haven't tried any of his Laotian teas yet, the Fa Zhan He sounded super good, and I've always avoided the Miyun in favor of something more interesting so I figured I'd give it a shot. At that price point either the Zhu Tang or Tang Fang Liang Zi sounded more interesting, but that's how it goes. There's always more tea that I want to drink than tea I get around to drinking.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 13 14:15:57 2023 No.19700975 >>19700957 >there's always more tea that I want to drink than tea I get around to drinking I legitimately had to pause deliveries on my subscription box because I have such a backlog.

Anonymous Wed Sep 13 14:33:09 2023 No.19701032

>>19693535
I actually live near this place and can attest to the quality. I've got seven bushes from them and all have done well except for the "Sochi" variety that has had a tendecy to sunburn on the leaves. Last time I was there I didn't see any badly diseased plants, everything was decently average to above average quality

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 13 14:43:35 2023 No.19701051 >>19701032 Have you had a chance to harvest and process some tea yet? Im planning to make white tea first since that seems the easiest.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 13 14:52:04 2023 No.19701069 >>19701051 Mine are a year away from harvestable size, so have only had green leaves from prunings so far. Hope to process my first batch in 2024

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 13 14:54:51 2023 No.19701078 >>19700911 really good info, thanks. i notice one russian in the reviews mentioning this cake, at 200g it seems like a decent way to dip my toes in. https://tea-expert.net/mengku/mengku-ben-weiidacheng-2015

Anonymous Wed Sep 13 15:18:29 2023 No.19701162

>>19701078
Yeah that's a good option if you want a few years of age, i just ordered the 2021 version which is the same price for a standard size cake. https://tea-expert.net/mengku/10128-cha-hun-2021
Either way definitely a good option.
Ive bought from that seller before, he is fine. He actually is based on an island in sothern china but for some reason targets his business towards Russians. You might need some kind of translator to fill out the order page but you can just pay with regular paypal and he ships from china.
Ive been really happy with mengku rongshi cakes, very nice pretty looking leaves and solid processing.

Anonymous Wed Sep 13 15:33:12 2023 No.19701211
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>>19701078
Oh yeah mengku rongshi aslo opened a second factory on Yong De mountain in 2008 or so. Teas with this abstract branch logo on them are from this other mountain. I haven't had a chance to dig into these teas yet but its helpful to know that they are different.

Anonymous Wed Sep 13 15:52:10 2023 No.19701288

>>19701162
>if you want a few years of age
yeah i was particularly looking into trying some older stuff. that 2021 version is tempting to get as well though, it'd be in budget. or mayeb it's smarter to get one of the Qiao Mu Wang instead if i'm getting two cakes.

>>19701211
nice i had wondered about the designs.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 13 16:41:18 2023 No.19701411 >>19700957 Be sure to tell us your thoughts on the cakes. The Miyun sample I've had seemed a bit boring to me, the Fa Zhan He is definitely more distinctive.

Anonymous Wed Sep 13 16:51:46 2023 No.19701439

>>19693419
I'm growing tea-by-me (more properly, Camellia sinensis Hardy SPZ), a cultivar that's specifically made for western European climes and hobbyists. Still had mine die the first year, probably due to starting slightly too late and not watering enough. Tried again this year and so far it seems good, except that one of my plants had some fucking animal chew off some sidestalks. First summer is difficult, needs a lot of watering and the border between overwatering and underwatering is relatively slim. Also, fertilizer. Should get easier next year as it starts to shade the ground it grows on and the roots have developed well.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 13 18:20:45 2023 No.19701690 File: 1.66 MB, 3005x2244, E7urnfuk38eo.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Very good. >YS spring 2022 purple voodoo

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 13 19:31:36 2023 No.19701930 >>19701690 Is that a shibo or do they call it something else? Love the handles.

Anonymous Wed Sep 13 20:34:02 2023 No.19702111
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>>19701690
>YS spring 2022 purple voodoo
Nice, that has been on my to get list for years.

Drinking some " 2006 Myanmar Kokang" from chawangshop today.Nice tea but I had to pull out a hammer to break the tea off. I really don't like iron cake levels of compression.

Anonymous Wed Sep 13 20:57:02 2023 No.19702169

>>19702111
>I really don't like iron cake levels of compression
I wonder how many people actually prefer highly compressed tea nowadays. the idea is that it ages well in a more humid climate, right? or is it just an unfortunate quirk of a more mechanised pressing process?

Anonymous Wed Sep 13 21:31:42 2023 No.19702273
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>>19702169
>the idea is that it ages well in a more humid climate, right? or is it just an unfortunate quirk of a more mechanised pressing process?
Yes

In theory the tight compression may reduce air and moisture penetration and therefore help protect the tea adverse conditions. Hypothetically, this could allow you to get more balanced taste in a very humid environment. Maybe it even helps to prevent mold, I don't know. In practice iron cakes probably take decades in a humid place to even begin to open up. I don't like them because they are a pain to pry apart and the tight compression means more broken leaves and hard chunks which makes brewing finicky. Iron cakes probably age slower too which seems like a bad thing with modern aged puerh prices. That said if the price is right I will still buy them.

Modern machinery can press cakes with lower compression levels but I doubt old school manual presses were used to make as tight of iron cakes. I would guess the super hard iron cakes are a post industrialization thing but I don't know for sure. Less hard iron cakes have probably been around a long time. The tighter compression may benefit the manufacturer because it cuts down on shipping space and makes the cakes more durable in transit. It also lets you press in logos and can help with getting cakes made with chopped tea and dust to bind together.

>I wonder how many people actually prefer highly compressed tea nowadays
No idea but only XG seems to make higher end iron cakes so they don't seem that popular. I see them as having an old fashioned appeal. Classic factory recipe taste and all that. Some of the XG iron cake recipes are quite good and will probably be around forever but I don't think anyone is rushing out to make gushu iron cakes.

Anonymous Wed Sep 13 22:05:31 2023 No.19702369

>>19701411
The tea showed up, I'm drinking the Miyun right now. I can see why he called it a daily drinker, this is probably one of the most refreshing teas I've tried. I think it will age well but it's fine as is, although it definitely is not processed to be bright and floral like a lot of modern direct to consumer young sheng (which is exactly what I expected and wanted). It's astringent, has a gentle huigan, and tastes super minerally. I think that's why it's so refreshing, it's almost like drinking mineral water. I'm pretty sure he actually described one of the teas I bought as being minerally, at least I think I remember that from the description, so I'm interested to see how this ends up comparing. It's not really especially different or exciting, but I could imagine drinking liters of this, where I might get worn out drinking a more provocative tea. I needed a higher end sort of daily sheng that I might take hiking or brew in a thermos so this is indeed perfect for that. If I was trying to pick one really exciting or unique tea out to have as a special treat, I would avoid this one though.
Also, I saw another anon in these threads got a cake of the Huangpian, which I think could be the most underrated tea he sells. It's probably been two years since I bought a cake, but it was excellent at the time. I might suggest that instead if someone is looking for an easy to brew daily drinker, even ignoring the price.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 13 22:15:26 2023 No.19702413 Began drinking some anxi hairy crab oolong from YS, holy shit it's bad. Like on the same level as iteaworld's Tieguanyin bad. Maybe a step lower. But fucking flavorless.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 13 22:20:19 2023 No.19702431 >>19702413 I'm beginning to feel drowsy. Maybe I can drink it with milk and sugar to just get the effects of tea.

Anonymous Wed Sep 13 22:44:52 2023 No.19702521

>>19702431
Nope, throwing it away.

Anxi hair crab is definitely lower than ITW's Tieguanyin.
Imma use that TGY to make milk oolong.

And then do a comparison between YS "AAA" TGY and floating leaves oolongs when they arrive, since the former is the no.1 that I know of.

Anonymous Wed Sep 13 23:23:37 2023 No.19702669

>>19702413
>>19702521
Now I'm curious. I bought some of this last winter and thought it was fine.
https://yeeonteaco.com/collections/oolong-tea/products/iron-buddha-ii-oolong-tea
How bad can tieguanyin be? The oolong YS is selling certainly isn't bottom of the barrel prices.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 13 23:41:15 2023 No.19702725 comparing the 7572 to a more premium Dayi offering, i can definitely taste the difference.

Anonymous Wed Sep 13 23:47:38 2023 No.19702753

Hey hey tea people

I haven't been in this thread for about a year but used to be a regular.
Does anyone know good websites (besides aliexpress/alibaba) for bulk equipment, particularly teapots, small cups, and gaiwans? Looking to start accumulating a bunch for a teahouse business venture but figure it'll likely be expensive to order all the serving utensils

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 13 23:51:00 2023 No.19702766 >>19702753 Craigslist

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 13 23:51:43 2023 No.19702769 >>19702766 "No"

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 13 23:55:33 2023 No.19702779 Is it normal for dried hibiscus petals to have a bit of fuzzy stuff on the end or are mine just moldy

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 13 23:56:38 2023 No.19702781 >>19702753 Restaurant supply stores

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 13 23:57:05 2023 No.19702784 >>19702781 They carry gaiwans?

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 13 23:57:34 2023 No.19702787 >>19702769 try to gay bar u always visit

Anonymous Wed Sep 13 23:57:46 2023 No.19702788
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>>19701439
Hope your camelia does well this next year! Are you using slow release fertilizer? I've heard that's the way to go.
Have a pic of my camelia soon after I got it before I put it in the ground. I wish I could find a pick of it in bloom because it puts on over 30 intense magenta-colored flowers.

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 14 00:01:28 2023 No.19702797 >>19702784 Maybe the ones that cater towards asian restaurants have them.

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 14 00:05:35 2023 No.19702813 >>19702753 What's your aversion to Alibaba?

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 14 00:23:16 2023 No.19702867 >>19702813 its slop.

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 14 00:37:47 2023 No.19702912 >>19702813 Not giving customers gallium poisoning

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 14 00:38:31 2023 No.19702914 can anyone review the Dayi White lotus Needle? or the one with the yellow wrapper that is a premium selection, dragon pillar?

Anonymous Thu Sep 14 00:53:27 2023 No.19702958

>>19700261
I had some assam today. I think this stuff's too strong for me. I think if I'm going to find something I like it's going to be green or oolong. Maybe pu-er, but I haven't tried any of that yet. Assam though seems like a typical black tea, maybe there are others that might appeal to me more.

Anonymous Thu Sep 14 01:28:52 2023 No.19703071

>>19702753
If you are looking for cheap teaware as a business you should probably suck it up and use aliexpress/alibaba or use those sites to connect to manufactures. I doubt you going to get as good of prices on cheap tea-ware anywhere else. Otherwise once you start getting your business set up you could try making wholesale orders at one of the big tea shops with lots of teaware like YS or taiwanteacrafts. They should cut you a discount.

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 14 01:32:41 2023 No.19703085 i finally picked a kettle

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 14 01:42:19 2023 No.19703119 Do you prefer distilled or filtered water?

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 14 01:45:34 2023 No.19703130 >>19702958 If you haven't already, do try some chinese black tea it's quite different to indian and some are really gentle.

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 14 01:48:50 2023 No.19703140 >>19702958 If you’re okay with some malt I recommend the Jin Jun Mei sampler from YS. Though if you’re enjoying what you’re drinking I don’t see an urgent need to push onward.

Anonymous Thu Sep 14 02:02:54 2023 No.19703172

>>19703130
>>19703140
I ordered what I currently have from Red Blossom. I should try out YS since I looked there and it seems like they have a lot more stuff. The other black teas I have right now that I haven't tried yet are Keemun and Jin Jun Mei (Golden Brow).

Anonymous Thu Sep 14 02:41:45 2023 No.19703310

>>19702669
> How bad can tieguanyin be? The oolong YS is selling certainly isn't bottom of the barrel prices.

The AAA Tieguanyin that I've tasted is very good, however, I've only had another TGY and that one was from iteaworld.
You can immediately tell the difference. The AAA is immeasurably better. However, even that cheap TGY from ITW beats the YS anxi hairy crab oolong. That tea is flat, it has no complexity.

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 14 02:43:59 2023 No.19703321 >>19703119 You shouldn't brew tea with distilled water, it's too powerful a solvent. You need a moderate amount of dissolved solids. Filtered or low to moderate TDS bottled water is best.

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 14 02:52:23 2023 No.19703341 >>19702788 Nice camelia

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 14 08:10:03 2023 No.19703962 >>19702725 what's the premium cake you're having?

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 14 09:33:29 2023 No.19704078 >>19694108 My favorite common grocery store tea is Tetley followed by Twinning Irish Breakfast

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 14 09:51:10 2023 No.19704093 thinking about getting into matcha. is it acceptable to use an electric frother?

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 14 10:11:07 2023 No.19704126 >>19704093 only if you have a disability

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 14 10:47:33 2023 No.19704169 >>19704126 I don't want to spend ten minutes getting my whisk on ok

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 14 11:32:35 2023 No.19704215 >>19704169 No, you're just lazy. Plenty of videos online with proper technique and under 2 mins. Git gud.

Anonymous Thu Sep 14 11:50:28 2023 No.19704228
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2021 spring Ye Shi Xiang.
If you pu-erh nerds ever wonder if it's worth buying a tea that was picked in spring of the same year, the answer is yes.
Even a few months after opening the package the quality had deteriorated significantly; it's still not bad, but when it was new it was something else.

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 14 12:04:14 2023 No.19704245 what are the better economical options on yunnan sourcing? i bought 20 teas over the years but there are a lot of options.

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 14 12:22:25 2023 No.19704271 >>19702725 Drinking a 7572 right now, I love the classic creamy chocolate vanilla taste. I gotta try more Dayi ripes. probably the cheaper ones though. I noticed there is one for only 14$ at Awazon, anyone tried that?

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 14 12:24:03 2023 No.19704274 >>19704093 >is it acceptable the result is ultimately the same, but imo match requires a good amount of autism to enjoy, and part of that autism is the traditional preparation method

Anonymous Thu Sep 14 13:03:37 2023 No.19704342

>>19704271
you mean this one?
http://www.pu-erhtea.com/TeaDetails.aspx?TeaID=887
interestingly YS have the following year for quite a lot more and say it is a one-off.
https://yunnansourcing.com/en-gb/products/2016-menghai-chen-xiang-ya-yun-aged-ripe-pu-erh-tea-cake

Anonymous Thu Sep 14 14:24:01 2023 No.19704485

>>19704342
yes, this one. the 2015 version is also on KTM, for 36$. the disparity in prices for Dayi can be pretty hilarious
I'm debating grabbing that + some other shit (not sure what) from Awazon or doing a tour of cheap Haiwan cakes from Tuochatea next

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 14 15:24:08 2023 No.19704602 >>19704093 >is it acceptable to use an electric frother? Yeah it's fine

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 14 15:30:56 2023 No.19704628 >>19704245 Good question Get a box of that xiaguan loose leaf black tea if they still have it.

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 14 15:32:15 2023 No.19704632 >>19704485 >tour of cheap Haiwan cakes from Tuochatea next Yeah i was eyeing those t00, they have a well priced 8582 as well.

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 14 15:56:11 2023 No.19704707 >>19704632 >they have a well priced 8582 as well That's exactly why I was thinking of making an order. I've got to try that cake sometime and this is seemingly the cheapest version with some age on it, even if it is dry storage

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 14 16:05:10 2023 No.19704724 >>19704485 >a tour of cheap Haiwan cakes from Tuochatea next let us know if you do pick some up, i've quite liked the cheap haiwans i've tried

Anonymous Thu Sep 14 16:43:34 2023 No.19704814

>>19703962
2018 Menghai "Wu Zi Deng Ke" Ripe Pu-erh Mini Tea Cake. The taste is different. it seems richer darker and thicker and more depth. the 7572 tastes more astringent and leafy and dry when compared to it. (not that the 7572 is bad on its own) The 7572 tastes dark, rich and depthy too when not being compared. both are creamy.
>>19704271
yeah i think i know what the dayi taste is now. i have three of them, the other one is the pheonix princess. i can recommend all three.

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 14 17:19:25 2023 No.19704881 >>19704245 The man is clearly starving to death and you really think of deserting him? Shame!

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 14 17:20:00 2023 No.19704884 >>19704881 huh?

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 14 17:21:06 2023 No.19704887 >>19703172 Just try those and get back to us.

Anonymous Thu Sep 14 17:36:02 2023 No.19704910
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>>19702413
>anxi hairy crab oolong from YS, holy shit it's bad.
Interesting, I had some a few years back that seemed fine to me. It was one of the more subtle flowery green style ones if I remember however. Perhaps you prefer more roasted oblongs?

>>19704245
>what are the better economical options on yunnan sourcing?
It depends on what you want to buy. YS is one of the best "all in one" Chinese tea shops but other shops offer better deals on some things. Fullchea is cheap but some of their tea is sus, KTM is great for semi aged sheng, ect. What are you looking to buy?

>>19704884
They are probably making a joke about his appearance.

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 14 17:38:31 2023 No.19704917 File: 79 KB, 686x386, scott.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>19704881

Anonymous Thu Sep 14 17:42:55 2023 No.19704925

>>19704485
>disparity in prices for Dayi can be pretty hilarious
Speaking of that, this years batch of dayi number recipes seem to have come back down in price. The 2023 DaYi "7572" is only $30 and the 2023 DaYi "8582" is only $40 on KTM right now. The "7542" is still missing though.

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 14 18:01:12 2023 No.19704970 r*ddit is insufferable, even their tea boards. Pretentious, pompous, bucket crab faggots that somehow are more hostile.

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 14 18:08:55 2023 No.19704988 >>19704970 I bet you could turn a funko pop into a tea strainer. Drill some holes in the head, tie a string to the legs and there you have it: the reddit tea bag

Anonymous Thu Sep 14 18:10:53 2023 No.19704992

>>19704970
Whats got you so triggered anon? I don't browse reddit regularly except when looking for tea reviews, but I remember r/puer having some knowledgeable posters as well as official vendors accounts. r/tea is mostly over run by normies with only a few good posters. There is a small subreddit to help with yixing identification as well. Obliviously most posters act like redditors but that should go without saying.

Anonymous Thu Sep 14 18:42:00 2023 No.19705050

>>19704992
Useful info must be sifted through the equivalent of tripfags and absolute negativity from knowledgeable posters. They have this holier than thou attitude and shit on everything and everyone else. Maybe I should appreciate them keeping themselves down.
My point is, it's not a good resource.

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 14 18:45:23 2023 No.19705058 >>19704970 i haven't touched reddit since, I think 2012

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 14 19:31:59 2023 No.19705173 >>19704910 Fantano looking rough these days.

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 14 20:25:41 2023 No.19705297 >>19704970 I read it /r/tea sometimes for a laugh, it's mostly boring stuff and "is this mold??" as i recall

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 14 20:36:35 2023 No.19705325 >>19704970 It's been years since I've used reddit, but basically this. What they lack in 4chan's outright hostility and contrarianism they more than make up for in passive aggressiveness and haughty arrogance.

Anonymous Thu Sep 14 22:23:02 2023 No.19705644

>>19704970

Insufferable, sure. But if you want pompous and pretentious, gotta go to Discord for that. At least some knowledgeable posters there, though.

Reddit is bending over backwards trying not to seem as such. That's why top posts for the last couple of years are all teabags, bottled tea, and mixing shitty soft drinks with tea. Anyone knowledgeable will get buried with downvotes so they can suck each others cocks about how inclusive they are.

4chan is unironically the best major platform for tea I've come across. People mostly buy and discuss stuff that's actual tea and look for the best price/flavour ratio instead of trying to outspend each other so their order pic gets more upvotes.

Anonymous Thu Sep 14 23:12:37 2023 No.19705753

>>19705644
>People mostly buy and discuss stuff that's actual tea and look for the best price/flavour ratio instead of trying to outspend each other so their order pic gets more upvotes
Yeah i would agree with that. The tea discussion here is surprisingly good for the most part and the autism is generally kept to a moderate level

Anonymous Thu Sep 14 23:42:30 2023 No.19705815

>>19705644
>That's why top posts for the last couple of years are all teabags, bottled tea, and mixing shitty soft drinks with tea.
Its because r/tea is draws a lot of normies due to the name. Searching top posts all time is not representative because a lot of those threads hit the front page and pull a ton of outsiders. From a quick glance at the first few pages of r/tea it looks like it is is fact mostly tea. I am a /tea/ anon at heart myself and prefer the particular flavor of autism that prevails here but it seems silly to act all high and mighty. Honestly what I like most about /tea/ is how small and intimate it is.

Anonymous Fri Sep 15 00:06:47 2023 No.19705864

>>19704910
> Interesting, I had some a few years back that seemed fine to me. It was one of the more subtle flowery green style ones if I remember however. Perhaps you prefer more roasted oblongs?

Probably that, I've been concentrating it and drinking it as milk tea, but I like my TGY and DHP oolongs better

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 15 00:07:32 2023 No.19705867 File: 164 KB, 1024x768, 1685745445636319.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>19705815 Cheers

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 15 00:27:46 2023 No.19705920 >>19692121 Should have had a leather pouch full of loose leaf

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 15 01:38:54 2023 No.19706044 >>19705867 You know that reminds me I still need to try Turkish tea. Didn't we have a Turkish stop in saying he was going to buy a tea plantation a while back.

Anonymous Fri Sep 15 05:52:51 2023 No.19706599
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Recs for the absolute best tasting puerh you have gotten from Yunnan Sourcing? Looking more into Shengs, aged or not, doesn't matter.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 15 07:07:38 2023 No.19706709 i want to buy my first yixing, been thinking of getting this: https://teahabitat.com/collections/gaiwan/products/gaiwan-set-yixing-zisha-purple-clay or should i get a pot. i mostly drink puer, black tea and oriental beauty.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 15 08:30:43 2023 No.19706830 Why is the tea general so much comfier with nicer people than the coffee thread? Almost makes me wish I liked tea more but I can’t deny my love for the taste of coffee.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 15 09:07:28 2023 No.19706915 File: 21 KB, 1196x752, 1577644674193.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>19706830 the qi of the cha comfies the thread

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>>19706830
try some ripe pu-erh, anon. if you brew it strong, it's almost like drinking espresso. similar great body, creamy mouthfeel and roastiness, but with that dough-like, funky fermentation twist

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 15 10:17:59 2023 No.19707008 >>19706953 I’ve tried silver needle white tea at this tea place before and it was amazing. Next time I go there I’ll try out your suggestion as well.

Anonymous Fri Sep 15 10:40:15 2023 No.19707047

>>19706709
>a 170USD yixing gaiwan set
I would avoid that.
The convenience of gaiwans is that you can use them for different sorts of teas without having to worry about some of the taste of any mixing with any other, and for that you need a gaiwan made with a non porous, or very scarcely porous, material, like porcelain.
If you get something made of clay I recommend you get a teapot instead.
Also that price is a robbery for a gaiwans, and it's not low even for a handmade clay teapot.
If you want a gaiwan get a cheap one, and if you want a teapot I recommend you look into the manufacturing differences that contribute to some teapots being more suitable for certain kinds of tea, I remember finding a pdf with good info titles something like "how to choose a Chinese teapot".

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 15 10:40:38 2023 No.19707048 >>19706709 you don't see clay gaiwans as often as pots, i wonder why >>19706830 >wish I liked tea more there is a huge breadth of flavours within tea anon, i'm sure you can find some favourites

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 15 10:54:54 2023 No.19707065 >>19707048 this is very true. i used to think this too but after trying a lot of tea you really learn how much variety there is and how different each tea is and i still have barely touched sheng or oolong which is no small share of tea

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 15 12:59:48 2023 No.19707254 File: 840 KB, 2048x2048, download.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Realistically, what can someone expect from 1900's puer like this? I'd imagine it's just dirt at this point.

Anonymous Fri Sep 15 15:19:17 2023 No.19707553

>>19707254
That looks pretty ugly eh?
If the tea is decent and has been stored well you might get flavors like ginseng, herbs/chinese medicine, maybe some mineral sweetness and of course the soil/loam kind of flavor specturm.
If its bad tea or poorly stored or has other issues it probably tastes like brewing stale oak leaves from your back yard

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 15 15:43:12 2023 No.19707629 File: 250 KB, 1316x1861, 1651102832095.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>19706709 pots are comfier and i feel that you get more out of the clay with a yixing pot than a gaiwan because the tea is in more contact with the clay

Anonymous Fri Sep 15 15:50:07 2023 No.19707646
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after drinking around half of the cheapest Fuhai and Dayi ripe cakes on Awazon (7576 and 7572), I think I find myself prefering the Dayi. they're similar, but I get more vanilla out of the Dayi cake, especially in the aroma, which is very nice. the Fuhai is a bit more earthy and doughy. the general dark chocolate and charred wood flavor profile is really similar though, I struggled to tell them apart at first
I also took a chunk of the Fuhai for a countryside trip with a few friends. I boiled it in a pot and we drank it around the fire. came out more doughy than usual and not so chocolaty

Anonymous Fri Sep 15 15:52:07 2023 No.19707652

>>19706709
>should i get a pot.
A pot Is traditional. If I were you I would probably get a ~120ml teapot from one of the trusted yixing vendors. Latter if you want to go down the yixing rabbit hole you can always buy more teaware. The thing I would worry most about the set you posted is that the strainer part looks delicate. If you are interested in that specific piece because you live local to teahabitat then you may as well look stuff over in person.

>>19707047
>Also that price is a robbery for a gaiwans, and it's not low even for a handmade clay teapot.
If it is a half handmade piece and made of real yixing clay then the price is reasonable. almost all the pots at that price range are half half handmade as well.

>>19707048
>you don't see clay gaiwans as often as pots, i wonder why
It is not tradition and yixing pots are status symbols therefore most of them are made into pots. I actually would really like to try a basic gaiwan made out of thin yixing clay. You would get the effects of clay but the ease of use of a gaiwan.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 15 16:13:40 2023 No.19707712 >>19707553 This shit is selling on Sotheby's for ~230,000 usd.

Anonymous Fri Sep 15 16:16:57 2023 No.19707722

>>19707712
It's a collector's item, you're not supposed to drink it. Super expensive wine is the same way. You buy it, store it in your fancy cellar and show it off to your friends, then sell it and buy something else or store it forever if you have loadsa money. People buying those $60,000 bottles of wine at auction aren't bringing them home and cracking them open to have with a nice ribeye.

Anonymous Fri Sep 15 16:18:27 2023 No.19707730

>>19707646
Sounds fun, i never get a chance to drink tea while /out/
On that note my next order is probably going to be that 7572 from awazan along with the 2005 fuhai cake. I put an order with awazan before but i haven't tried any of their dayi cakes yet. Should be a fun comparison.

Anonymous Fri Sep 15 16:24:57 2023 No.19707747

>>19707712
>This shit is selling on Sotheby's for ~230,000 usd.
Check out http://sunsingtea.com/PuerhTea/1900's
If you want to look at some old teas from an old HK dealer. Their 1900s teas don't have public prices but some of their 70s and 80s teas do.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 15 16:39:07 2023 No.19707787 >>19707646 which 7572 is that? i have the 2011 one and found it just a touch fishy leaving it to air out i like the fuhai though, that chocolate is great. >>19707747 if i ever get stinking rich for some reason i'll buy some of this shit and drink it

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 15 16:52:06 2023 No.19707823 >>19707787 Yes, the 2011. Interesting, I didn't find mine fishy at all.

Anonymous Fri Sep 15 17:00:40 2023 No.19707854

THREADLY REMINDER
Shipping from china can be quite slow and shitty from the beginning of November through the end of Chinese new year. If possible consider getting your big winter orders in before them to avoid shipping taking possibly 4-5 weeks if you get unlucky.
THREADLY REMINDER

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 15 17:22:06 2023 No.19707923 File: 241 KB, 1170x934, CFD82CE6-A86A-4CBD-B971-0A8F529CFDB5.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Anyone have any recommendations for electric kettles

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 15 17:31:35 2023 No.19707957 >>19707923 I own and like the OXO Brew Adjustable Temperature Pour-Over Kettle. https://www.oxo.com/adjustable-temperature-pour-over-kettle.html https://www.amazon.com/OXO-Adjustable-Temperature-Electric-Pour-Over/dp/B074KHPS7F

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 15 17:49:38 2023 No.19708004 >>19695895 Would like to know too. I'm very tempted by the GABA ripe from moychay but I'm too broke to justify ordering it and I still have a year or so of stock.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 15 18:22:17 2023 No.19708089 >>19707923 Side request: any recommended kettles that don't beep or whose beep can be disabled?

Anonymous Fri Sep 15 18:32:23 2023 No.19708110

>>19707923
i don't know if it'll interest people here so much but my preference is simple stuff that can't break. this one is double-walled like a thermos and doesn't have any unnecessary electronics, mechanisms etc.
i like it
https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B0B7X1R5FV

Anonymous Fri Sep 15 18:40:00 2023 No.19708124

>>19707923
>>19708089
I bit the bullet and bought a Stagg, it was worth it honestly. Everything else is just kind of shit in a very subtle way, and I don't want to be annoyed by something I use every day. It doesn't beep at all.
https://fellowproducts.com/products/rebrew-corvo-ekg-electric-kettle?variant=41451556339812
I would probably purchase this instead unless you also make pourover coffee a lot. The temperature hold function is easily worth it if you do multiple brews of green tea, especially something like gyokuro. In general it's just nice to use. I bought a refurbished one because I don't care what it looks like and they guarantee that there will only be cosmetic defects, the kettle I received was indistinguishable from new. They also sell replacement parts and spares.
It's a stupid price for a kettle but nothing else is perfect.

>>19708110
I used something like this for a long time, but sitting next to it with a meat thermometer trying to get the water to the right temperature, and needing to click it on again every time and manually turn it off because it only clicks off at maximum full boil instead of something sensible for tea like 97 degrees is just annoying. Yes, both of those are small problems but being able to just pick the kettle up, pour water, and put it down again and have the water always be at whatever temperature I set it to without needing to think or do anything is very relaxing and easily worth it for me. If you don't do any of these things or don't care then don't buy one, but if you're also autistic and easily annoyed by small things it's a great purchase.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 15 19:00:46 2023 No.19708173 File: 2.01 MB, 4096x3072, IMG20230915195505.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I found some wild camomile flower the same day my victorian teacup came in, so...

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 15 19:01:35 2023 No.19708174 File: 2.31 MB, 4096x3072, IMG20230915195533.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] SO FUCKING TASTY

Anonymous Fri Sep 15 19:03:19 2023 No.19708180

>>19708089
>>19707923
Cheap, all stainless interior, good quality brix heating system, no temp controls, no beep, has lasted me for several years of heavy use.
https://www.amazon.com/Secura-Electric-Stainless-Protection-K15-F1E/dp/B087BRBX4Q/
Cheap, temp control, brix heating element, all stainless interior, keep warm function, controls are a litte weird but work fine, read the reviews for the details. No idea if it beeps or not.
https://www.amazon.com/JOYHILL-Temperature-Stainless-Thermostat-Protection/dp/B09ZKHXMG1/

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 15 19:04:26 2023 No.19708187 >>19708173 >wild camomile flower Nice, those flowers look great

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 15 19:45:17 2023 No.19708308 >>19706830 Italian moka spammers chased most of the knowledgeable regulars off.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 15 20:06:39 2023 No.19708365 >>19706830 Too much coffee is no good, coffee has too much caffeine and caffeine makes me ANGRY

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 15 21:27:03 2023 No.19708592 >>19708365 probably because of how well researched, understood and studied coffee is, there is a lot more to debate tea is a bit of a mystery so everyone here is just like 'this tasted nice, that didnt'

Anonymous Fri Sep 15 21:43:10 2023 No.19708641

I really love that tea can't be turned into a 100% scientific repeatable brewing process. There are too many variables, the amount of rolling during processing, the size of the leaves, the quantity of broken pieces or dust and compression levels for pressed teas. It makes it so that you can have a plan for how to brew a specific tea, have a good idea of starting parameters but past that you are on your own in terms of execution and there is lots of room for experimenting.
I can imagine some coffee nerd grinding and sifting tea into different broken leaf grades so they have a consistent uniform product to brew everytime.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 15 21:44:31 2023 No.19708645 >>19708592 I ascribe it to the fact that tea processing is almost entirely done before the tea reaches the consumer, who simply has to add hot water to leaves, whereas upper end coffee requires a lot more consumer effort (gearfaggotry).

Anonymous Fri Sep 15 22:18:18 2023 No.19708733
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>>19708641
>grinding and sifting tea into different broken leaf grades so they have a consistent uniform product to brew everytime
Debating if its worth cleaning my sieves for the meme. Pic rel, someone wanted to see ground shou pourover.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 15 23:24:54 2023 No.19708884 >>19708733 Damn that looks syrupy How was it?

Anonymous Fri Sep 15 23:58:41 2023 No.19708939

>>19708884
Bretty gud. Ground at roughly "pourover" burr gap and I used couple tools to slow the drawdown. Can't even remember what it was to tell you the truth. W2t Lesser evils maybe. The goal was to roughly mimic the origami tea dripper for jap greens, but ripe.
https://youtu.be/YXJ5y77oYOI

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 16 00:00:11 2023 No.19708942 File: 89 KB, 1280x720, 1671384563705819.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I don't like white tea anymore.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 16 00:16:26 2023 No.19708983 >>19708942 Tell me more. I have a nice aged shou mei that's like drinking honey. I can't imagine disliking it.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 16 00:42:53 2023 No.19709047 Im going to place an essence of tea order to get a pot. What are some of their must try teas? I've already had their house yanchas, and I heard their heicha was really good too. Which of their aged puerhs are good?

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 16 01:04:53 2023 No.19709108 >>19708983 What shou mei is that? I've never gotten around to trying one but that sounds good.

Anonymous Sat Sep 16 01:09:09 2023 No.19709123

>>19709047
I have one of the EOT pots, i really like it, the single hole does clog occasionally with some chopped up factory puer or the like but i just keep a bamboo skwer around to poke it if i need to. Despite that i still prefer single hole pots to some of my other ones with a multi hole strainer, the single hole pours faster and doesn't leave a splash worth of water in the bottom of the pot that doesn't want to drain out.
As far as EOT teas i would suggest looking ar the aged puer they stock. I have had decent luck with them, i got a smokey cake that he doesn't have anymore that i really liked, i got a sample of the tea horse road cake and it was pretty good but im not sure if it was cakeworthy. Ive been eyeing the Smokey Manzhuan bricks but haven't had a chance to try them yet, sounds like a rustic picking of some pretry nice material. The 2003 and 2004 zoncha cakes also sound good.
Some of his recent production house cakes sound pretty good too but i haven't tried them.
I did get a box of his house liubao "signature grade" and i wasn't super impressed for 45¢ a gram. Its nice flavor wise but it doesn't have much endurance and it's not as rich as some of my favorite liubaos. It has lots of big leaves and stems and its got tea seed pods so it's a fall production. I want to try the three leaf liubao it sounds pretty good, i actually have a sample but haven't gotten around to testing it. If you want a real full root cellar, loamy soil, aged beats experience you can try the four gold coins liubao.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 16 01:10:15 2023 No.19709127 New thread coming right up

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 16 01:15:54 2023 No.19709144 >>19686639 NEW >>19709143 >>19709143 >>19709143

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 16 01:19:02 2023 No.19709154 >>19709108 It's basically the cheapest white tea on KTM. "Lao Bai Cha - Shou Mei" I get being tired of puer, green, black, but not white. It's too good!

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 16 01:36:48 2023 No.19709220 >>19709154 Thanks, I've definitely been lacking sone good white lately. I'll grab a cake next time I get a KTM order in.

Anonymous Sat Sep 16 01:40:30 2023 No.19709234

Tried some tung ting mi xiang today. This has been my favorite so far. Part of it might be that I used bottled water instead of my tap water, which seemed to have an elevated ph that might have been causing some issues. I'm probably still not tasting as much as I should be but I did taste/feel some creamy/honey/smooth aspect to it.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 16 01:46:43 2023 No.19709250 >>19709234 Sounds good, you can usually correct issue with your tap water with a cheap britta type filter pitcher, thats what i use and it makes a big difference with my hard tap water.

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