Opinion thread

[Anonymous No.19567987]

>MSG is a crutch for mediocre food

What are some of your controversial food opinions, /ck/ ?

[Anonymous No.19567992]

>>19567987
fresh tomatoes are good

[Anonymous No.19568008]

>>19567987
it's not difficult to make good barbeque, it just takes time and prep. people who brag about their barbeque just like showing off over how long they have to wait for their food to finish cooking

[Anonymous No.19568014]

Most French pastries and desserts wouldn't be praised nowhere near as good if they weren't part of "muh French cuisine" in the first place.

[Anonymous No.19568020]

>>19567987
there is nothing inherently superior about "ethnic" food it is just the novelty factor + ethnic narcissism by people from the rainforest

[Anonymous No.19568024]

>>19567987
Potassium salt is better than sodium salt in most cases

[Anonymous No.19568030]

>>19567987
MSG in excess is used to make mediocre food more palatable, but MSG used in moderation to elevate good food to an even more enjoyable level in fine.

My controversial opinion is that runny yolks kinda suck. I won't complain about being served a runny yolk but I prefer them sort of medium well where they are gelatinous, but not liquid.

[Anonymous No.19568033]

Most French pastries and desserts wouldn't be praised anywhere near as much as they do if they weren't part of "muh French cuisine" in the first place.

[Anonymous No.19568037]

>>19568014
Boy people like French pastries because they're delicious, not because they're French. If Eclairs were suddenly called choccy creampuffs everyone would still love them. French pastries are light and unique, that's why they're popular.

[Anonymous No.19568048]

>>19568008
BBQ is basically autism the food. Right up my alley.

[Anonymous No.19568050]

>>19568024
How? Most of this other shit I can agree but this stuff tastes metallic if you're not mixing it with real salt

[Anonymous No.19568052]

>>19568037
Parfaits are livestock feed for white trash teenage girls.

[Anonymous No.19568056]

>>19567987
1. Frozen pizza like Tombstone is worse than local joints
2. One doesn't have to be a bitch about fake italians.

[Anonymous No.19568060]

>>19567987
Fresh high quality ingredients are a crutch for cooklets.

[Anonymous No.19568063]

>>19568030
My one caveat is that I do enjoy a perfectly poached egg with a runny yolk. The silky texture of the whites is complimented by the runny yolk, but any other preparation of egg is better with a gelatinous semi-solid yolk.

[Anonymous No.19568073]

>>19567987
Italian pizza joints aren't fronts for money laundering operations and cocaine sales.

[Anonymous No.19568083]

My opinion is that seasoning only refers to the specific alterations of a food's bitterness, sweetness, sourness, savouriness and saltiness, black pepper is an exception due to convention
Anything else is not seasoning
I see a lot of people use spices or herbs in their meals and they call it seasoning, no actually what you're doing is flavouring, not seasoning

[Anonymous No.19568084]

>>19567987
the vast majority of japanese food fucking blows

[Anonymous No.19568177]

>>19567987
I fucking love olive garden bros

[Anonymous No.19568214]

>>19567987
breaking the spaghetti in half makes it the perfect length for a half twist on the fork. full box length is too long and is no more close to 'authentic' than half box.

[Anonymous No.19568255]

Junk food is made to subjugate large populations.

[Anonymous No.19568267]

>>19568083
For me seasonings are either
1. Salt
2. processed spices that have been altered to have instant effects and mixed together ("italian seasoning (spice and herb mix)", "cajun seasoning (spice mix)", "curry powder (spice mix)", garlic powder, onion powder, etc)

Only raw unadulterated spices are spices
Only raw herbs, or dried herbs that haven't been obliterated into powder, are herbs.

[Anonymous No.19568865]

if you can't afford to tip at least 25% you can't afford to eat out

[Anonymous No.19568871]

>>19568177
$10 worth of ingredients
$75 worth of food

[Anonymous No.19569138]

>>19567987
My farts smell good

[Anonymous No.19569142]

>>19568865
That's the stupidist thing I've read this week and it's only Friday morning.

[Anonymous No.19569147]

>>19567987
This is the chick claiming MSG gives you headaches

[Anonymous No.19569152]

>>19568865
If you can't afford to pay your employees a living wage, then you don't need to be in business.

[Anonymous No.19569170]

>>19569152
That's the tipping scheme here in the states, put the wages onto the customers instead of the employers.

[Anonymous No.19569180]

>>19567987
This kind of opinion never makes sense because it doesn't comment on the usage of something, in this case msg, outside of their one stated view.

If it's used as a crutch for bad food what happens if it's put on amazing food? Nothing? Makes it worse? Better? My controversial opinion is fags who state a basic opinion as being controversial just because they leave out context. Nobody would disagree that ANYTHING you do to mediocre food is a crutch to make it seem better.

[Anonymous No.19569188]

>>19569180
Dude, it's as if you have an axe to grind or something, OP just asked for opionions not some manifesto. Are you going to shoot up a school later?

[Anonymous No.19569198]

>>19569170
I know that's the narrative being pushed, but that's just the wrong way to look at it. Tipping in America was originally just a way to legally not pay blacks once slavery ended. These days it's just something owners use to disguise the costs and guilt customers into paying more than they intended to.
>if you don't pay a minimum 10% top, you're responsible for this poor hard-working girl's miserable life
>wait, just kidding, the minimum standard is 15%
>wait, it's 20%
>wait, it's 25% and actually most of it doesn't even go to the servers anymore; with modern pay software it's split between the software provider before being merged into the company's bottom line

Covid broke the back of the lie that is the American tipping narrative. Stop falling for it, force the companies to balance their own books.

[Anonymous No.19569200]

MSG doesn't do anything to the flavor.

[Anonymous No.19569206]

>>19569188
no, he's right and you're a Mongolia

[Anonymous No.19569224]

>>19569198
>>19569206
You two should get a room and shoot up a school you freak jobs.

[Anonymous No.19569226]

>>19569206
Mongo like meat!

[Anonymous No.19569920]

>>19568865
Cuck post

[Anonymous No.19570093]

>>19568030
>gelatinous, but not liquid.
are they ever really liquid?

[Anonymous No.19570099]

>>19568871
I know objectively it's bad but I live in a small town with few good restaurants. So many places have either raised their prices or gone to shit. I don't even go to chipotle any more because it's $20 for shit service, sitting in the restaurant but having to order on the app, and then they're out of shit.
At least at olive garden I get nice service, it's consistent, and I can take extra breadsticks, salad, and soup home.

I don't think olive garden got great I just think every other chain restaurant has gotten that much worse.

Not to rant, but even my local poke place is shit. $20 for barely any fish. I asked for cucumber and avo, I literally got 2 paper thin slices of cucumber, and one single 3 mm thick slice of avocado, and they had the audacity to charge me an extra dollar for it.

[Anonymous No.19570207]

you dont get to have this opinion unless you also dont salt your food

[Anonymous No.19570263]

"Seed oil" is not a meaningful categorization of cooking fats, they each have a wide range of fatty acid ratios and phytochemicals. The seed oil cult is stupid.

The #1 way to get healthier is just to cut out all ultra processed foods. My opinion? Ultra Processed Food is not food, it's an industrially processed edible substance. The appropriate amount to consume is 0.

Other opinions:
>whole wheat pasta is better for almost every application
>mediocre cooks overuse garlic. For most dishes, one clove of garlic per serving is a good rule of thumb
>mediocre cooks also overuse dry spices, you don't need to season the fuck out of good food. Some exceptions can be made for cuisines like Indian that rely on complex spice blends/pastes. I'm talking about typical westerners here.
>Vegetables are.. good for you (my most controversial take by far)
>The average American cannot cook worth a damn and therefore does not deserve to breathe Earth's precious air

[Anonymous No.19570271]

>>19568255

Junk food is made to generate maximum profits for the shareholders of food manufacturers. The fact that it turns populations into fat, docile, chronically ill, junk-addicted slobs is merely a side effect. This side effect is probably the reason regulators don't care enough to change the food system.

[Anonymous No.19570277]

>>19570263
>"Seed oil" is not a meaningful categorization of cooking fats, they each have a wide range of fatty acid ratios and phytochemicals. The seed oil cult is stupid.
>The #1 way to get healthier is just to cut out all ultra processed foods. My opinion? Ultra Processed Food is not food, it's an industrially processed edible substance. The appropriate amount to consume is 0.
agree

>whole wheat pasta is better for almost every application
I always eat whole wheat pasta and think "this isn't so bad" and then when after months I eat regular pasta again I am amazed at how delicoius regular pasta is
>mediocre cooks overuse garlic. For most dishes, one clove of garlic per serving is a good rule of thumb
true and describes myself
>mediocre cooks also overuse dry spices, you don't need to season the fuck out of good food. Some exceptions can be made for cuisines like Indian that rely on complex spice blends/pastes. I'm talking about typical westerners here.
true and describes myself
>Vegetables are.. good for you (my most controversial take by far)
agree people don't eat enough. I at least have a salad (no dressing) everyday but I'm trying to eat more
>The average American cannot cook worth a damn
true
>and therefore does not deserve to breathe Earth's precious air
a little harsh. maybe just not pay for their healthcare

[Anonymous No.19570284]

>>19569147
I laughed

[Anonymous No.19570288]

>>19568865
pffft, you must be poor. I tip 30%.
I know what it is to have to work in a shitty job, and I try to brighten someone's day just a little.

I have enough money that I doing this won't hurt me in the least.

[Anonymous No.19570315]

>>19568008
It's not hard, which is why it's so funny that so many retards fuck it up so badly.

[Anonymous No.19570651]

>>19570093
Never, not until employers start paying proper wages and end the so called tipping system.

[Anonymous No.19570654]

>>19570315
Retards dont know any better, that's why they're retards. Hence tipping.

[Anonymous No.19570662]

msg isnt anything special. its just another flavoring thing or an enhancer at best.

[Anonymous No.19570671]

>>19570662
I flavor enhanched your momma last night

[Anonymous No.19571342]

>>19570671
That's rude, anon.

[Anonymous No.19571527]

>>19568008
It’s more a flex of your fire building and maintaining skills than your cooking skills
That being said good barbecue is fucking incredible and I’d kill for my own private yard where I can grill all I want

[Anonymous No.19572298]

>>19567987
If your cuisine doesnt rely heavily on tomatoes, peppers/paprika and garlic and/or onions its shit. Theres a reason why Mediterranean and TexMex food is so great. Theres also a reason why Scandinavian and Russian food is just plain old wrong, starvation food.

[Anonymous No.19572317]

>>19571527
Dont firget Jenny Flex, she was was from James Bond movie.

[Anonymous No.19573442]

>>19572298
>peppers/paprika
opinion discarded

[Anonymous No.19573499]

>>19573442

[Anonymous No.19573872]

>>19567987
> me on the left

[Anonymous No.19573922]

christian bakeries should have to bake gay wedding cakes

[Anonymous No.19573923]

>>19567987
>MSG is a crutch for mediocre food
Yes. I agree, it is a flavor booster for shit that needs flavor boosting.

>>19568030
>runny yolks kinda suck
Yes, I agree here too. It might be because it reminds me of shitty army eggs that were almost soup half the time I got them. Proper solid curds just taste better to me.

>>19568060
Shit ingredients are just the challenge mode for poorfags.

>>19568267
I don't get the hair splitting & elitism here - freeze dried herbs & powdered spices are just as good, if not better, than the raw herbs. Powers are highly useful in making stuff where you don't want lumps quickly - be it soups or sauces.

[Anonymous No.19573957]

>>19570263
>"Seed oil" is not a meaningful categorization of cooking fats, they each have a wide range of fatty acid ratios and phytochemicals. The seed oil cult is stupid.

Protip - the seed oil crew is worried about PUFAs, which is present in high levels in all oil from seeds, including olive oil. The only fats exempt are animal fats, coconut oil and butter, all with low PUFA levels. The science is that high PUFA levels cause rats to get fat as fuck, hence the demonization of PUFA, and all seed oils as a result. Or at least that is the science claim the doctors that shill it use.

Does that shit apply to humans? IDK, but the sneed oil crew thinks it does. The hard part is that it correlates to human fattiness just like several other things do, so everyone gets to play the blame game pointing fingers at carbs, fats, sugar, processing, additives, etc. because we can't experiment on humans to prove what actually fattens us up.

[Anonymous No.19573970]

>>19567987
Mexican food is shit. Pretty much all of it is poorfag cope meals with better versions of everything in it in other cultures. Just putting in hot peppers to cover up the shit taste does not make it good, and it only appeals to masochistic autistic lefties.

The only special thing they have is hass avocados, hence the reason they guard that shit with grafting super fucking hard.

[Anonymous No.19574024]

I think that right wingers get a little carried away with how much soy products and seed oils occupy their head rent-free.
I fully understand that they're not great for you, but I doubt small amounts of it are really that devastating.

[Anonymous No.19574054]

>>19567987
Mayo is fucking gross.
Eggy spreadable grease.

[Anonymous No.19574300]

>>19573970
You can say that about most new world cuisine where the countries are still relatively new. Especially soul food, which was initially made by what ever raw scraps slaves could find and make it edible.

[Anonymous No.19574356]

>>19570263
Most seed oils like corn, soy, canola, etc. are ultra-processed. Extra virgin olive oil, butter and animal fats are minimally processed (depending on the brand).

[Anonymous No.19574378]

>>19573970
muh leftists

[Anonymous No.19574514]

>>19567987
>making food taste good is bad
you're retarded

[Anonymous No.19575154]

>>19567987
africa is culinary bankrupt

[Anonymous No.19575696]

>>19568177
same. better than carrabas imo.

[Anonymous No.19575701]

>>19568865
20%, take it or leave it.

[Anonymous No.19575733]

mexican and asian food aren't that good.
i shouldn't have to include a tip for takeout that i'm picking up, since there is no waiter involved and i'm doing the driving. (this happened to me recently)
spicy food is unnecessary. i don't want to feel discomfort while eating.
there is nothing wrong with being a picky eater.
i think having all your food mixed in and touching each other is gross.
restaurant food is good. fast food is not. also restaurant burgers > fast food "burgers".

[Anonymous No.19575740]

I don't know what MSG is
I don't know what gluten is
I don't know what calories are
I also don't care about any of the above

[Anonymous No.19576868]

>>19567987
using eggs for baking, frying, or anything other than just eating the egg is a waste.

[Anonymous No.19576954]

Most dishes aren't enjoyable enough to be worth the time, effort, and cleanup when compared to easy shit like stews and casseroles
The amount of salt in pretty much everything should be halved
Soda is an insidious scourge upon humanity on par with tobacco and alcohol
Pretending to have extremely strong opinions on shit like pineapple on pizza or black coffee is extremely embarrassing and the debate equivalent to play-fighting

[Anonymous No.19577070]

>>19573923
>Shit ingredients are just the challenge mode for poorfags.
Cooking is all about the correct application of technique and knowledge, not how much money you can throw at it. You are not a good cook just because you made some slop using expensive ingredients.

[Anonymous No.19577071]

People take cross contamination and poultry contact waaaay too seriously. As long as your stuff gets cooked to the proper temperature it literally does not matter that I used the same cutting board for my chicken and veg. Freaking out over poultry contact is just a way for redditors to make themselves feel smarter and superior without actually being good at cooking. They're too dumb to know how to do it correctly and safely so they just go hypersafe and try to shame everyone else into lowering themselves to their level.
Exactly like the dweebs who freak out over trigger discipline on firearms. As long as you're not a complete tard you can do it without shooting off your foot.

[Anonymous No.19577075]

>>19575733
>mexican and asian food aren't that good.
>restaurant food is good. fast food is not. also restaurant burgers > fast food "burgers".
Today I went to a Mexican restaurant and ordered a burger and it was honestly one of the best I had ever had. I think you may be on to something.

[Anonymous No.19577080]

>>19567987
goyslop means any food made by a publically traded company not what the actual food is

[Anonymous No.19577084]

>>19567987
Cheese is just fine with many fish and shellfish, it just depends on the kind of cheese and the dish. If it weren't true, there wouldn't be authentic Italian recipes involving it. But I suppose it's just easier for people to go by rule of thumb.

[Anonymous No.19577183]

>>19577075
i know more than i should

[Anonymous No.19577199]

>>19567987
Cooking from a recipe is easy. All you need are enough braincells to follow simple instructions and enough dexterity to not injure yourself around knives and hot cookware.
Anyone who say they can't cook is either suffering from a seriously crippling disability or they're a liar.

[Anonymous No.19578508]

>>19571527
This.

It does take some level of skill and experience to be able to manage the heat and recognize/intuit when the meat is done with an outdoor grill/bbq. It IS "harder" than indoor cooking because you have many more variables to work with. Variable fuel source, variable ambient conditions. That doesn't mean it's "impossible" or we all have to scream like söyjaks about it like some people are doing in this thread for some reason? It just means if you have, you know, a 3-digit IQ or so, you can handle it.

[Anonymous No.19578514]

>>19575740
Yes you do.

[Anonymous No.19578518]

>>19577080
Thank you for reserving your opinion for the "post genuinely retarded opinions" thread.

[Anonymous No.19578616]

Food should not touch

[Anonymous No.19578622]

I'm diabetic and lactose intolerant, and I think sugar is poison, and I think it is unnatural for adults to drink cow milk. Literally only babies drink milk and consume sugar. Also, MSG gives me headaches because it is Chinese poison. I can tell when there is MSG in my alcoholic beverages because I'll get a headache when I drink too much.

[Anonymous No.19579822]

>>19578622
>MSG in my alcoholic beverages
Uhh can someone tell a non-drinker if this is an actual thing

[Anonymous No.19579833]

>>19579822
You have fallen prey to a classic 4chan troll, anon. You've been tricked. deceived. bamboozled.
>msg in alcohol
honestly would be based though

[Anonymous No.19580441]

>>19567987
>>19567992
>>19568008
none of these are controversial

[Anonymous No.19580686]

>>19572298
tastelet detected

[Anonymous No.19580690]

>>19568865
Nice, something actually controversial. Also, fuck you.

[Anonymous No.19580692]

>>19567987
Thats dumb as hell because you could just say that about any ingredient.
>salt is a crutch for mediocre food

[Anonymous No.19580864]

>>19580686

[Anonymous No.19580915]

I like pineapple on pizza.
Also i cant take the food opinions of people serious, if their list of cant eat foods are just things they dislike for some retarded reason.

[Anonymous No.19581360]

>>19567987
>why would you add something that makes food tastier?
retarded opinion really

[Anonymous No.19581570]

>>19579833
Asking for verification of a strange claim instead of instantly believing it is the literal opposite of falling for it...

[Anonymous No.19581585]

>>19581570
>still can't see how that joke was obvious satire and bait
anon...

[Anonymous No.19581586]

>>19568865
>literally have the money to afford the food
>literally can afford to eat out without tipping

woah. This is not an 'opinion' you stated, it's an incorrect fact. You are saying it is factually impossible for someone to afford a meal but not extra, this is just inaccurate to reality. Thanks, fag!!!!!

[Anonymous No.19581598]

>>19570099
>i live in a small town
>local poke place
you don't live in a small town, citycuck

[Anonymous No.19581606]

>>19578616
>food should not touch
>bacon is touching the greens is touching the croutons
>dill is touching the rice
>chicken is touching the seasonings
>sauce is a bunch of liquid and seasonings all touching each other

[Anonymous No.19581666]

>>19581598
I live in a stripmall flyover hell. One of those places where it's not big enough to have any good or unique restaurants but not small enough to have any "charm"
whatever you want to call it

[Anonymous No.19583170]

>>19567987

>plain rice is gross and boring and anyone who actually likes eating it that way is brain damaged

>processed cheese is disgusting and should never be served on anything by anyone anywhere, even by fast food places.

>american cheese is garbage because processed cheese is called american cheese, therefore it's dogshit

>kimchi is disgusting and the devil's sauerkraut should be considered toxic waste

>kale is wonderful although pungent and can liven up pizzas and salads

>bannock is fucking garbage tier discount bread and it's only popular because people fetishize native "culture"

>carrots, onions and leeks make a better mirepoix than carrots, onions and celery. I'll gladly die on this hill.

>anyone who doesn't like blue cheese or mold-produced types of cheese is a literal child and their lack of taste disgusts me

>full english breakfast is mediocre and disgusting, and I say that even though I like fried food and meat

>excepting tasty piggies, predators and highly intelligent (but maybe non-sentient) animals should not be eaten by people. And moose. Those majestic beautiful and terrifying creatures should be left alone. I feel bad about eating octopus. I'm still anti-vegan though.

>indian food lacks any sort of creativity outside of spices and is just goop on rice

>plain medium-rare steak is gross, put some flavour on that stuff

>except for salmon lox or maybe deenz, fish is not a breakfast food, unless you live by the ocean. In which case fish stew is acceptable.

>It's better to pay more for quality snacks or pastries instead of cramming low tier garbage down your gullet. Pay more and go for quality potato chips, for example. Or make your own.

>the best tomatoes are always the ones you grow yourself. Find rare varieties and grow them!

>the same goes for many types of produce

[Anonymous No.19583575]

>>19567987
not a huge fan of french food. i mean it's good obviously but everyone makes a big deal about how it's the best in the world and i just don't see it