/ck/ - Food & Cooking

[Anonymous No.19484976]

Why did people decide IPAs of all beers should be session beers? The taste is so bitter it's really a one and done.

[Anonymous No.19484980]

>>19484976
Founders us just frequently disappointing imo

[Anonymous No.19484982]

People are sheep. Something becomes popular so the Norman's and Normanesses jump on it and then it explodes.

[Anonymous No.19484989]

Here's how I assume it works. They try to make a batch of some other kind of beer that's actually good. But they're all fuckups so they ruin it. To cover up the taste they dump a bunch of hops in and call it an IPA. Thus they're everywhere because they're essentially the "chef's special" of the beer industry.

[Anonymous No.19485003]

i know it sucks walking into a beer shop and it's half ipa, i want some different shit too, but some people genuinely like things that you don't

>>19484989
you assume that's how it works because you're an autistic retard with the emotional intelligence of a preschooler

[Anonymous No.19485009]

>>19484976
For me the only point of the IPA is high ABV. I will browse the store (west coast) for them and will buy the gayest looking cans if it's over 8% ABV. So far i found a good 11% one that only one store sells.
If they max out at 8% at the store then I stick with tall cans of good old malt/high gravity, which taste the same anyway.

[Anonymous No.19485018]

>>19485009
Why do you want to drink bad beer to get drunk when bad liquor is so much cheaper and gets you so much drunker

[Anonymous No.19485024]

>>19485003
>you assume that's how it works because you're an autistic retard with the emotional intelligence of a preschooler
I fuckin nailed it, didn't I? You've probably done it yourself. If there's one thing businesses love it's taking their scraps and garbage and packaging it up as real product to make more money. IPA is the hotdog filling of the beers.

[Anonymous No.19485037]

>>19485018
I will get liquor (vodka) sometimes, but I do enjoy the feel of drinking cold forsty beer from an ice cold can. It's also easier to control your druk levels with separate cans as opposed to a whole bottle of liquor.
I don't really think there's "bad beer", there's nothing in the gayest IPAs or Steel Reserve which is significantly different from what they put into the heritage Belgian brewhouse beers that win all the awards. It's just the taste some people don't like, which I don't mind.

[Anonymous No.19485068]

>>19485024
let's run through the scenario:
>company fucks up batch
>instead of putting it down the drain and writing it off on tax they decide to forge ahead and release it anyway, potentially damaging their reputation
>they waste a whole heap of money taking the most expensive ingredient (hops) and use the least efficient method of extraction (dry hopping) to cover up the fault
>while it's in the tanks they shit out a package design and release it as a special
>this somehow also explains all the triggering ipas in brewery core ranges

it's dumb shit you made up because you're a toddlerbrained autist shit-scared of subjectivity, you're free to believe it but the only people that will go along with you are other sperg retards, everyone with as little as half a brain and a passing interest will see right through the cope
stop being an emasculated bitch and own your own opinions

[Anonymous No.19485075]

>>19485068
Wow they're trying really hard about this, I think you were spot on anon. Can't believe this is how we confirmed why IPAs are shit.

[Anonymous No.19485088]

>>19485075
ipas are shit because you think they are shit, hell, i'm fucking sick of them being everywhere too

they are not shit because of gay stories autists make up in order to pretend your tastes are subjective, you're just spineless numale freaks too afraid to be a man and stand up for your own opinions

[Anonymous No.19485561]

>>19484976
the hops mask the weak beer taste

[Anonymous No.19485776]

>>19485088
Lmao what a sperg

[Anonymous No.19485791]

>>19484989
>>19485024
The problem with your narrative is that IPAs are actually expensive to make. Hops are the most expensive ingredient in beer.

That being said you clearly know nothing about beer because you can't just brew a beer, taste that it's bad and then turn it into an IPA later.

>>19485068
Damn this guy already nailed it.

[Anonymous No.19485842]

>what if we made a beer designed to be enjoyed throughout the day
>but get this, what if we actually made it taste good
I've honestly never understood people who buy bud light or whatever shitty macro lager and go through an entire case in one sitting. That shit tastes so bad I can't even choke it down fast enough to get a buzz. That said, session IPAs are stupid. You need the malt backbone to balance the hops, and you can't get that without a higher ABV.

[Anonymous No.19485852]

>>19484976
The IPA you posted is weak as fuck too, it's under 5% ABV. Do not waste your time with it.

[Anonymous No.19485860]

>>19484976
this is my favorite beer

[Anonymous No.19485863]

>>19485852
I don't think you understand the thread.

[Anonymous No.19485868]

>>19485009
If you’re on the west coast, I find ciders like 8-12 percent.

At that range they’re almost never those overly sweetened varieties. There’s a cosmic crisp imperial at like 9% that tastes like great.

[Anonymous No.19485870]

>>19485863
Ok and?

[Anonymous No.19485874]

>>19484976
czech pilsners are superior

[Anonymous No.19485889]

>>19485870
And you made a really dumb post demonstrating your lack of understanding. That's all.

[Anonymous No.19485930]

>>19485889
If you say so champ.

[Anonymous No.19485943]

>>19485930
Your retardation is independent my saying or not saying anything. I was just making an observation.

[Anonymous No.19485958]

>>19485068
>>19485088
>>19485791

Can't believe they have a disinfo agent spending so much time on this. We've really uncovered the biggest scam in brewing since clear beer and they're panicking

[Anonymous No.19485961]

>>19485943
lol mad

[Anonymous No.19485965]

>>19485961

[Anonymous No.19486039]

>>19485965
seething

[Anonymous No.19486042]

>>19486039
lmao they said the meme word gotten

[Anonymous No.19486287]

>>19484976
The alternative is 2-3% pale ales.

[Anonymous No.19486299]

>>19486287
Or, you know, just drinking a normal ~5% pale ale?

[Anonymous No.19486336]

>>19485842
>That shit tastes so bad I can't even choke it down fast enough to get a buzz
Macrobrew lagers (especially light ones) are easy as fuck to drink. They taste like water. Something like a double IPA or an imperial stout is much harder to choke down quick.

[Anonymous No.19486365]

>>19486336
Session beers aren't meant to be choked down quickly.

[Anonymous No.19486378]

>>19486365
So what's the point and why not drink regular beer?

[Anonymous No.19486408]

>>19486378
>So what's the point and why not drink regular beer?
Because session beers refer only to IPA as they're high ABV. It doesn't refer to any other style of beer. This thread was made on a foundation of ignorance.

[Anonymous No.19486746]

>>19484976
I've never tried this, but session beers are supposed to be refreshing and flavorful. I'm tempted to buy a pack one Saturday and just grind through it. What's founders even taste like?

[Anonymous No.19486793]

>>19486746
>>19485852

[Anonymous No.19486808]

>>19486299
This one is still miles better than 90% of the new meme craft beers.

[Anonymous No.19486817]

>>19486408
This whole site is being flooded with esl retard phone posters. There isn't much you can expect.

[Anonymous No.19486906]

>>19485842
>yellow fizzy beers taste bad
They literally don’t taste like anything, they’re very bland and easy to drink.

[Anonymous No.19486912]

>>19486408
>session beers refer only to IPA as they're high ABV.
none of this is true

[Anonymous No.19486920]

>Beerfags are going through the trouble of brewing and marketing special "session" beers and micromanaging the ABV for specific consumption windows
>Meanwhile as a cultured alcoholic I just drink vodka or mix it with lemonade if I'm feeling fancy
I will not pay 12 dollars for some faggot 4 pack of whatever the fuck craft brew for a 30 minute buzz, I'm gonna pay 10 dollars for bottom shelf vodka in a plastic bottle and enjoy myself for the entire weekend before waking up with the planet's worst hangover and spend all day monday eating greasy food and telling myself I'll never do it again before promptly repeating the cycle the minute I get in the mood.

[Anonymous No.19486921]

>>19485037
>I don't really think there's "bad beer", there's nothing in the gayest IPAs or Steel Reserve which is significantly different from what they put into the heritage Belgian brewhouse beers that win all the awards.
Actually, beer is just hops, malt and water. Dudes are putting fruit and berries in their IPA and calling it beer.

[Anonymous No.19486930]

>>19486920
>I'm gonna pay 10 dollars for bottom shelf vodka in a plastic bottle and enjoy myself for the entire weekend before waking up with the planet's worst hangover and spend all day monday eating greasy food and telling myself I'll never do it again before promptly repeating the cycle the minute I get in the mood.
You know what, fuck you man.

[Anonymous No.19486949]

>>19486920
>I will not pay 12 dollars for some faggot 4 pack of whatever the fuck craft brew for a 30 minute buzz, I'm gonna pay 10 dollars for bottom shelf vodka in a plastic bottle and enjoy myself for the entire weekend before waking up with the planet's worst hangover and spend all day monday eating greasy food and telling myself I'll never do it again before promptly repeating the cycle the minute I get in the mood.

Stay based king

[Anonymous No.19486954]

>>19486921
People have been putting fruit in beer for longer than they have been using hops.

[Anonymous No.19486958]

>>19486954
>People have been making wine longer than they've been making beer
Ok?

[Anonymous No.19486970]

>>19486958
Flavouring beer with fruit doesn't make it a wine.

[Anonymous No.19486972]

>>19484976
Beer is disgusting. Only hipster faggots with long twirly mustaches drink that liquid diarrhea

[Anonymous No.19486984]

>>19486972
I'm sorry, what the fuck did you say?

[Anonymous No.19487000]

>>19486972
spotted the same sex haver

[Anonymous No.19487586]

>>19484976
Session beers are a meme, just drink beer ffs.

[Anonymous No.19487616]

>>19484976
shut up fag

[Anonymous No.19487755]

>>19485776
>no, u
gj 10//10

[Anonymous No.19487892]

>>19486930
>>19486949
The duality of frogs.

[Anonymous No.19488276]

>you don't need to drink ipas

[Anonymous No.19488284]

What the fuck even is a "session beer"? What is a session in this context?

[Anonymous No.19488323]

>>19484976
Nah I like em

[Anonymous No.19488405]

>>19485009
I did this in college when I was under 21 [ABC store state so couldn't buy liquor with my fake]
No idea why you'd do this when liquor is both cheaper and easier to get drunk with

[Anonymous No.19488414]

>>19488276
No idea why this beer is so popular on this board.

Are you the only person that keeps posting it?

[Anonymous No.19488429]

>>19488284
It's not a real term but the most agreed upon characteristics of session beers include
>Lower in abv
>Refreshing
>Drank with the intent of having many drank over a long bar stay or prolonged period of time at work or at home

[Anonymous No.19488507]

>>19488405
It's preference if you can afford it. The feeling of a cold can on your palm, the crack between opening each can, the cool carbonation. Addicting, like a soda. There's other reasons, but I can see why they do it. That being said, I don't unless I really do have excess money and ill grab a nice cold refreshing pack of tall boys from the gas station. Otherwise like you said, $9.99 for a handle of vodka and you're set for a while with that unless you're a absolute alchy.

[Anonymous No.19488627]

>>19486408
>session beers refer only to IPA as they're high ABV
>it doesn't refer to any other style of beer
I don't know that I've ever seen someone post something as wrong as this. Session IPAs are way on the fringe, and almost an aberration. The name itself is almost oxymoronic. It's almost like you're claiming that only lagers can be dark because black lagers exist.

[Anonymous No.19488729]

>>19488627
Evidence?

[Anonymous No.19488748]

>>19484976
>one and done
Thats the point it should take you hours to finish it while fishing or mowing the lawn.

[Anonymous No.19488940]

>>19486984
>a guy wearing raggedy clothes literally covered in shit is drinking beer with his shit-covered hand
Wow that means beer is so cool... Maybe if I drank beer, I'd also be wearing shit covered rags and be covered in shit like him!

[Anonymous No.19489001]

>>19484976
My understanding is that session IPAs are really only a thing because IPAs are usually relatively strong. The one you posted clocks in at 4.7% ABV per the manufacturer, which is just a normal beer. I'm drinking a lager that's 4.5% according to the can. Ostensibly session versions of other normally strong types of beer could pop up but IPA is the flavor of the month.

[Anonymous No.19489041]

ipas taste like sunscreen

[Anonymous No.19490668]

>>19484989
Not how it works at all. Adding hops after the fact doesn't even add bitterness. You're just a sperg who unironically thinks people liking things you don't like is just a conspiracy.

[Anonymous No.19490688]

>>19489041
so does your moms untanned titties

[Anonymous No.19491032]

>>19488748
Session beer means you can drink a lot of them throughout the day and not get pissed drunk.

[Anonymous No.19491175]

>>19491032
So a lite beer? They call it session beers so they can charge you more.

[Anonymous No.19491202]

>>19484976
For some reason this thread is making me crave an IPA.

[Anonymous No.19491365]

>>19485068
No he's right.
>t. Work in a brewery and do it all the time.

[Anonymous No.19491375]

>>19491175
????? session beer is a term that's been around for decades. sorry you're just learning about it now. god i'm so sick of all you pessimistic myopic faggots on here vomiting your half-baked opinions

[Anonymous No.19491381]

>>19491375
List 5 widely available "session beers" right now.

[Anonymous No.19491393]

>>19491381
It's not a specific style, it's a loose category of refreshing beer. Pilsners and blondes are usually session beers.

[Anonymous No.19491817]

>>19486972
There are many delicious beers but urban faggots take something good and make it extremely pretentious and unenjoyable in order to make it seem sophisticated and only enjoyable to a refined palette or something stupid, they've done it to a bunch of shit

[Anonymous No.19491946]

>>19491817
>seething about "urban faggots"
absolutely obsessed

[Anonymous No.19491959]

>>19484980
founders centennial is great and cheap

[Anonymous No.19492211]

>>19484980
How? I've only had good or great beers from them

[Anonymous No.19492290]

>>19484976
I only enjoyed them in college because they were higher abv than other beers and I couldn't buy the booze yet, and then I just started buying vodka

[Anonymous No.19492296]

>>19491946
>caring about "urban faggots"
absolutely gay

[Anonymous No.19492349]

>>19487616
thought you had a can of Surge in the thumbnail....

[Anonymous No.19492683]

>>19484976
Just got done with a late night of work and now I want a drink but I'm an alcoholic so I drank everything and now I'm let with nothing.

[Anonymous No.19492689]

>>19486746
Meat and potatoes in a great way
Quite hoppy and not fruity
Great V4M

[Anonymous No.19493095]

>>19491817
maybe you should just stop being a contrarian fashion victim and develop interests of your own

[Anonymous No.19494132]

>>19493095
I need a job.

[Anonymous No.19494725]

>>19491381
Bud, Coors, Miller, Keystone, Founders.

[Anonymous No.19494726]

>>19494132
Why not work for a brewery?

[Anonymous No.19494754]

>>19484976
It's American craft wankers overcompensating. In the late 90s/early 00s American beer was all weak pisswater, so they had to prove that their new stuff was REAL BEER so they picked the most hoppy, bitter style and made nothing else (aside from gay desert stouts). So every single beer had to be an IPA for them: Strong beer? IPA. Session beer? IPA. Lager? IPA. Golden Ale? IPA. Sour? IPA.

Traditionally in English beer styles, you have IPA that's highly hopped and a bit sharper but still balanced, more popular in Summer. But you also have normal pale ales that are mellower and are true session beers. Bitter can also be a session beer, but it's a very broad style, more determined by colour (dark amber to brown) and not being sweet unlike brown ales.

[Anonymous No.19494884]

>>19494754
What are your favorite pale ales?

[Anonymous No.19495103]

>>19494884
The current reigning king

[Anonymous No.19495142]

>>19486920

>I'm gonna pay 10 dollars for bottom shelf vodka in a plastic bottle

Based

[Anonymous No.19495168]

>>19495103
Non American here. Care to elaborate what "can conditioned" means? Is is just a marketing ploy or some kind of special treatment?

[Anonymous No.19495204]

>>19494754
surely the seppos are embarrassing enough that you don't have to make up half-truths and bullshit in order to seethe at them?

[Anonymous No.19495233]

>>19494884
Shipyard is ok, pretty bog standard. My go-to is definitely Whitstable Bay, well-balanced, light but tasty, perfect session beer. Also good shouts are Timothy Taylors Landlord and Sharps Atlantic Pale. I used to love Marstons Pale but it became worse after they were bought out by Carlsberg. Don't know if you have those in yankland.

>>19495168
Just a variation of bottle-conditioned, i.e. there's a secondary fermentation in the bottle which is what gives the carbonation. In theory you're meant to store them longer to get a better flavour.

[Anonymous No.19495237]

>>19495168
instead of being carbonated by being canned under pressure there's sugar that the yeast eats

[Anonymous No.19495258]

>>19495233
>>19495237
Thanks for explaining

[Anonymous No.19495290]

>>19486920

All other forms of alcohol exist to prevent one from going down the plastic vodka route. Alcohol was conquered with vodka in plastic bottles but we all just can't do it. Some gotta stay near the surface with beer or mead or wine or whatever the fuck. Not all fish can swim deep.

[Anonymous No.19495298]

>>19495258
np

[Anonymous No.19495310]

>>19494754
Based. English pale and bitter are the ideal session beers imo. Well balanced, low abv but still flavourful.

[Anonymous No.19495337]

>>19494754
You're wrong on just about every account

[Anonymous No.19495888]

>>19495337
How so?

[Anonymous No.19495893]

I used to hate IPAs until they figured out which hops make it taste like grapefruit instead of pine sol.

[Anonymous No.19496083]

>>19484980
Founders porters fuck my stomach up.

I just picked up some sam adams cherry wheat and it's a touch too sweet but pretty good

[Anonymous No.19496112]

>>19495888
I'm in the middle of nowhere Midwest and can go to a liquor store and get locally made anything you mentioned. We have multiple breweries whose whole gimmick is traditional lagers now. It's been that way for years

[Anonymous No.19496230]

>>19491365
No, you don't.

[Anonymous No.19496279]

>>19485037
>It's also easier to control your druk levels with separate cans as opposed to a whole bottle of liquor.
as an alcoholic trying to stop it's a blessing and a curse. A curse to my wallet. I was on bottom shelf pllastic jug vodka. So much cheaper but it was killing me. I'm tapering down one less beer per day this week.
It's my bday today and I'm having a semi-mid-life crisis, I want to stop drinking and stop putting off other goals

[Anonymous No.19496315]

last 2 times i bought IPA's there was globs of yeast in bottom of 3/4 and it gave me some seriously nasty diarrhea.
Obviously the second time was shame on me. Never again

[Anonymous No.19496326]

>>19496315
That can happen with any beer that is a mass produced lager

[Anonymous No.19496333]

>>19496326
Isnt*

[Anonymous No.19496368]

The vast majority of beers are terrible. My city has dozens of breweries and my friends like to visit them so I join in. I'm always shocked at how odd and unpleasant most of the options are. Lagers are the only decent tasting beers and breweries don't make them because they aren't fancy and the brewery's raison d'etre is bored hipsters trying to turn drinking alcohol into a hobby.

[Anonymous No.19496395]

>>19496368
Local breweries are always making stupid shit like double imperial stout that has overwhelmingly nutty flavor, or super bitter IPA that you have to force down, or cider from an unconventional fruit that tastes like fruit juice. It's all just garbage and they charge you out the ass for it. The same beer styles you can find at the market for a quarter the price that aren't unbalanced or overwhelming because they have to appeal to a wider base i

[Anonymous No.19496423]

>>19496368
Goddamn man you come off like a complete limp dicked fag.

[Anonymous No.19496436]

>>19487616

Based Houston Bro. Art Car is my go to since you can find that shit almost everywhere that has even a semi decent selection.

[Anonymous No.19497490]

>>19484976
Aye pee ay

[Anonymous No.19497499]

>>19488507
>>19488405
right, liquor is cheeper, but if youre not drinking it straight are you actually factoring in the cost of a soft drink and or fruit juice?

[Anonymous No.19497503]

Ill say, for the percentage I much prefer ciders, sours, and porters taste wise, IPAs are dooable but a fucking slog - sours are lighter too.

[Anonymous No.19497843]

why is it now a "session"? all beers are binge beers.

[Anonymous No.19497845]

>>19495893
i hate both but still drink them. after years on first high gravity, then malt liquor, then regular beer, i'm finally financially comfortable to drink beer i do like. but i still buy some stronger stuff like voodoo ranger or golden monkey (fuck sour beer) to drink after i've had 2 or 3 good tasting beers.

[Anonymous No.19498419]

>>19497843
Session isn't a binge because it's paced and the point is to not get smashed

[Anonymous No.19498618]

>>19498419
So wtf is a session? How long is it? How many beers in what amount of time qualify as a session?

[Anonymous No.19499142]

>>19498419
getting smashed is the point of alcohol. sure you can pace yourself at the start to enjoy the buzz but it leads up to drinking more happiness until you're overloaded and wake up 4 hours later feeling refreshed

[Anonymous No.19499151]

>>19499142
>getting smashed is the point of alcohol
Maybe for you it is.

[Anonymous No.19499156]

>>19484980
I enjoy their non-IPAs. Their breakfast stout is delicious.

[Anonymous No.19499450]

>>19491946
>>19493095
Name a time and a place. Bareknuckle fight me vs. you two the winner decides whose opinion is objectively correct here

[Anonymous No.19499624]

>>19499450
Sure, where are you, stupid hick?

[Anonymous No.19499642]

>>19499624
In your head.

[Anonymous No.19499645]

>>19499450
>>19499624
>>19499642

[Anonymous No.19499970]

>>19497499
If you've got the math on that, I'd like to see it.

[Anonymous No.19499973]

>>19495290
>All other forms of alcohol exist to prevent one from going down the plastic vodka route
Yeah and what's the point of it? They're trying to sell you less for more. You don't have to swim deep jf you measure out your shots and don't go past a limit

[Anonymous No.19500044]

>>19499970
I went and did it myself
>Walmart says 12 cans of Sprite is $7.34
>Handle of vodka is $10
>Average six pack beer near me is $10

>If hypothetically one 1.5 oz shot per a 12 ounce can of beer than there's 6 shots in a six pack
>Beer is $1.66 a shot

>Let's say you do 1.5 oz vodka per 12 oz can sprite
>You can expend 18 1.5 oz shots of your 1.75L handle before you need more sprite
>The vodka is $0.25 a shot
>The sprite is $0.612 a can
>The total cost for a beer equivalent with sprite and vodka is $0.87
>Half of that of the beer, for double the cans, and there's still 22 shots of vodka leftover in the handle
It's not competition, the question is whether or not you want diabetes but even then you can get sprite zero for like a buck more and that hardly raises numbers.

[Anonymous No.19500488]

>>19500044
You must be fucking broke as shit if you don't want to pay a 80 cents more for a beer. Holy shit dude get a job

[Anonymous No.19500494]

>>19500488
>You must be poor if you don't want to pay 80 cents more for gas
>Holy shit dude get a job

[Anonymous No.19500629]

>>19497499
Yeah but to be fair if you're drinking liquor to save on cash you're probably not mixing it at all and if you are it's with something cheap. You can get orange juice/lemonade for a few bucks in a big jug as a mixer and be fine with 13 dollars investment for enough drinks to last quite some time.

[Anonymous No.19500992]

>>19498618
Session beers basically mean any beer that is between 4 and 6% ABV. So weak enough that you can knock them back at a comfortable pace and not get smashed but enough to get a nice buzz.Basically if you see something advertised as a session beer you know its on the weaker end alcohol wise.

[Anonymous No.19501340]

>>19500992
Isn't this how you get fat

[Anonymous No.19502151]

>>19501340
Session beers are generally marketed as the "classy" craft version of Lite beers for hipsters who want to drink a 6 pack over an entire afternoon once every 2 weeks, it's not really marketed to people who drink every day.

[Anonymous No.19503295]

>>19502151
A bit classy like you, hug darling.

[Anonymous No.19504696]

>>19484976
Just cause

[Anonymous No.19504814]

why not drink good beer instead of meme-tier IPAs?

[Anonymous No.19505503]

>>19504814
It's finals week for summer class. I'm a module behind and a group Project is due tomorrow. I'm drunk and I'm not going to sober up until tomorrow.

[Anonymous No.19505510]

>>19486299
Don't drink anymore but these people made the best flavors. Another one from north of this company also

[Anonymous No.19505524]

>>19488323
cool cool

[Anonymous No.19505733]

>>19505510
THAT SUCKS DUDE

[Anonymous No.19506255]

>>19484976
it's just marketing