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19395748 No.19395748 [Reply] [Original]

>a macronutrient is bad for you
People unironically believe this

>> No.19395752

Ketolards aren't people.

>> No.19395753

>>19395748
carbs are based
only an incel would disagree

>> No.19395765

>>19395748
People increasingly do not grasp the concept of moderation. Everything has to be either an absolute good or bad.

>> No.19395781

>>19395765
I think that happens more when someone is just starting to educate themselves about something. If they do that online then they probably find someone with that extreme viewpoint to listen to first, but will moderate their thoughts over time.

Even with keto, everyone I know who used it to lose weight eventually realized it's just junk food that was the problem, and they start eating healthy carbs instead.

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>carbmerchant is seething about keto on /ck/ all day every day
The truth is that carbs aren't inherently bad. The problem with both the adherents and the detractors of keto is that they think its the "one true diet", and treat it accordingly. The truth is that it exists to be a solution to a very specific problem: diabetes or pre-diabetes and the obesity and other problems that come with it. Diabetics lose insulin sensitivity. This causes hightened insulin responses to food that goes on for longer. Having insulin in your blood prevents access to body fat. Restricting carbs and to a lesser extent protein gets you to a point where you can metabolize body fat and eventually regain insulin sensitivity. That's it. If you have a healty metabolism you don't need to worry about carbs, if you don't restricting them could be a solution. For some reason diets are more controversial than religion in the modern world and people can't wait to start tribal wars over them.

>> No.19396299

>>19395935
one of the biggest problems is that food nowadays is so much lower in nutrients than it used to be and it's bigger so you need to eat so much food to ger the nutrients you need, and most carbs especially modern bread are mostly to fill you up and not very good for you so you can pretty much avoid carbs and still get a balanced diet because of how much you need to eat overall. i'm not keto but i never just go and have some bread or base meals around carbs, if i make a meal it's going to be meat, eggs, dairy, and vegetables as the main focus, and if it needs to be balanced out i might make rice or potatoes or whatever. it's not that carbohydrates are inherently dangerous but the average american doesn't realize how much they actually eat that is just carbs and not particularly healthy carbs either

>> No.19396331

bananas are carbs!?

>> No.19396366

Reminder that "keto" dates back to the same era of the "black coffee, cigarettes, and half a grapefruit" diet, as well as the "all you can eat cabbage soup diet". It probably would have died out 30 years ago if Oprah didn't make it popular again with soccer moms in the 90's. The irony is that Oprah wasn't even about keto; she just lost a lot of weight by cutting bread out of her diet because she would go out to dinner and eat three baskets of bread before the meal arrived. It's a dumb confluence of circumstances where people think that some extreme diet working for one person means it's going to work for everyone, or even be healthy.

>> No.19396546 [DELETED] 

>>19395748
>>19395752
>>19395753
>>19395765
>>19395781
>>19395935
>>19396299
>>19396331
>>19396366
SHALOM!

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>>19396546
Shalom, anon! You know just because Robert Atkins was a Jew we're not all antisemitic just because we think ketotards are subhumans.

>> No.19396585 [DELETED] 

>>19396567
That's right! We chosen people would NEVER backstab each other to profit off the goyim we are one tribe with complete solidarity!

>> No.19396607

>>19396585
You've lost the plot so hard it's not even amusing.

>> No.19396633 [DELETED] 

>>19396607
PLEASE
EAT
THE
SUGAR
GOYIM
PLEASE
PLEASE WE BEG YOU
UNCLE GOLDSTEIN'S ENTIRE HEALTH INDUSTRY RELIES ON YOU EATING THE SUGAR
WE WILL LOSE TRILLIONS GOYIM
THIS IS ANOTHER HOLOCAUST
EAT THE SUGAR RIGHT NOW GOYIM
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO YOU HAVE NO IDEA WHAT YOU ARE DOING NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO EAT IT GOYIM I BEG YOU PLEASE EAT THE SUGAR GOYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY

>> No.19396656

The fattest people I know are the ones who avoid carbs.

>> No.19396701 [DELETED] 

A brief history of reddit programming in three acts:
>Gee I think maybe these shots they're giving kids are bad for them
HOLY SHIT YOU RETARDED ANTIVAXXXXXXXXER OH MY GOD YOU STONE AGE IDIOT THERE ARE TONS OF SIDE EFFECTS BUT UM THEY ARE LIKE GOOD OKAY
>Gee I think maybe these politicians are lying about covid
HOLY SHIT YOU RETARDED COVIDIOT OH MY GOD YOU STONE AGE MORON POLITICIANS ARE DEFYING THEIR OWN LOCKDOWNS TO GO TO PARTIES BUT UM IT'S THE MOST DEADLY VIRUS IN HISTORY OKAY
>Gee I think maybe sugar is bad for people
HOLY SHIT YOU RETARDED KETOTARD OH MY GOD YOU STONE AGE IDIOT EVERYONE EATS SUGAR IT'S WHAT THEY FEED CATTLE TO FATTEN THEM UP AND SUGAR INTAKE IS DIRECTLY LINKED TO FATAL DISEASE BUT UM IT'S LIKE NORMAL OKAY

Sorry jews the goyim know is all

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>>19396656
Virtually everyone who swears by some extreme fad diet are projecting. They were typically fat kids with no will power, and then came across the latest bro-science bullshit in a magazine or on ticktock and they took to it like it was their new religion, and occasionally it actually helped them reach a healthy weight. Now they literally can't comprehend anyone else being healthy if they don't follow that exact same diet, just like religious fanatics believe that all the non-believers are inherently evil people who lead meaningless lives. That's also the entire /fit/:/ck/ dichotomy in a nutshell. 90% of /fit/ are fatter and unhealthier than anyone on /ck/, but they've come to believe that they have to eat a billion proteins with nothing but broccoli and oats or whatever and anyone who does otherwise is "never going to make it". It's pure projection, except most of /fit/ haven't actually made it, and just like looking at other half naked dudes and fantasizing about one day looking like them. It's like how people who live in trailer parks loved Trump because the one thing they have in their life is the idea that they too can become a "billionaire" one day too, and anyone trying to take that away from them is just a big meannie.

>> No.19396706 [DELETED] 

>>19396702
>tranime

>> No.19396726

>>19396701
I'm confused. The green text is obviously supposed to be the reddit opinion, but the hyperbolic all caps makes it sound like you're disparaging whoever is supposed to be espousing that viewpoint. Or maybe you just really, really like Trump and think typing like him makes you sound cool? I honestly don't even know. Probably just summer and/or ESL.

>> No.19396730 [DELETED] 

>>19396726
Cute pilpul, thanks for your participation moshe

>> No.19396774

>>19396633
>>19396701
Why do you keep going on about sugar? You sound more retarded than a vegan who vehemently believes that non-vegans never eat vegetables.

>> No.19396880 [DELETED] 

>>19396774
>JUST EAT THE FUCKING SUGAR GOYIM PLEASE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
no lol

>> No.19396891

>>19396880
>literal schizo

>> No.19396921 [DELETED] 

>>19396891
>Literal tay-sachs sufferer projecting

>> No.19396941

>>19395748
Cause diabetus is a good thing.

For certain people.

>> No.19396989

>>19395748
Alcohol is a macronutrient

>> No.19397050

>>19396299
The idea that people overeat because the food is less nutritionally dense is not true. It sounds like it makes a lot of sense but there's not any evidence or justification for this. Micronutrients do not have a detectable flavor except for being bitter and unpalatable in huge doses.

It's also not true that food in general is less nutritionally dense. Yes the vegetables are less nutritious because the soil today is completely spent, but most people today get most of their nutrition from artificial fortification. In the US companies are required by law to put vitamins in bread, milk, rice, breakfast cereal, fast food, and other kinds of goyslop. This is so black people don't die from subsisting entirely on Froot Loops and Doritos. Make of it what you will, but people today have extremely low rates of nutrient deficiency compared to the past. Nutrition is basically inversely related to how fat the population is.

>> No.19397061

>>19396585

god damn get new fucking material or just move on with your life

>> No.19397066 [DELETED] 

>>19397061
>JUST MOVE ON AND EAT THE SUGAR RIGHT NOW GOYIM STOP FUCKING NOTICING OY VEYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY

>> No.19397073

>>19397066
i dont think they talk like that

>> No.19397102 [DELETED] 

>>19397073
>they

>> No.19397117

>>19397050
Food cravings aren't always just purely for pleasure. People with anemia will crave foods with iron. Just because you don't directly taste every micronutrient in any amount doesn't mean your body doesn't still get a sense of what's being consumed.

>> No.19397120

>>19395748
carbs aren't bad we just eat way too fucking many of them in the modern diet

>> No.19397123

It's not the carb that's bad, it's the type of carbs we eat
The same way fat is good but we eat seed oils and trans fats which is bad

And protein is good but we eat modified soy and wheat protein which is bad

>> No.19397184

>>19397117
If this theory is true then it should be testable. What nutrient deficiency do you think causes cravings for fast food, soda, and ice cream?

>> No.19397202

>>19397184
I said they're not always purely for pleasure, which means sometimes they are. Especially with modern processed foods that are designed to be borderline addictive. Food cravings in a scenario with no processed food could better indicate nutritional needs.

>> No.19397210

>>19395748
Bread is bad for you. Can't eat them every day. You can have like 1-2 a day maybe, but thats it. Fuck the USDA for telling us that 5-6 servings of bread was "good" for us

>> No.19397283 [DELETED] 

>>19397210
The (((USDA))) did it on purpose.

>> No.19397305

>>19397210
People had grain heavy diets before the food pyramid and there was less obesity. I don't think the food pyramid is much to blame, it tells you to limit added sugar and most people aren't doing that. There needs to be more widespread recommendations to avoid highly processed foods, just doing that has been shown to improve health and lead to weight loss no matter what diet you follow otherwise.

>> No.19397375

>>19396706
>Despising anime on 4chan
kys

>> No.19397389

>>19397120
>carbs aren't bad we just eat way too fucking many of them in the modern diet
So? We must limit them? Retard.
I can't believe that monkey literally said
>It's not bad. We just eat it too much.
Goddam that fuckin' board.
I imagine so many Nidokado Avocado crying on the ground throwing a tantrum while screaming
NOOOOOOOOO YOU CAN'T PREVENT ME FROM EATING CAAAAAAAARBS! WHERE IS MY SODA?!
They just remind me those temperature room IQ neckbeards screaming
>NOOOOOOOOO YOU CAN'T PREVENT ME FROM POLLUTING WITH MY PICKUP! THAT'S MY LIBERTY TO RUIN THE PLANET AND THE AIR QUALITY!

>> No.19397397

>>19396546
Which stereotype of a Jew does "moderation is important" fall under?

>> No.19397399

>>19396585
>>19396633
How old are you? Don't you think it's time to grow out of the pol chud phase?

>> No.19397816

What the fuck is a mactonutrient? I'm picturing a nutrient the size of a horse. Probably enlarged by some misguided inventor.

>> No.19398062

Problem is processed food. Most processed food is super high in carbs and processed fats.

>> No.19398070

>>19397210
>bread is bad for you
Fuck off. It is infinitely better for you than any seed oil garbage or hard liquor. If anything just don't listen to the USDA servings that was probably written by a kike. The same faggots that tried telling us that fat is bad but sugar is good.

>> No.19398116

>>19398070
Why do you think bread you make yourself only lasts a day while supermarket bread can last a week?

>> No.19398128

>>19395748
What is there that is not poison? All things are poison and nothing is without poison. Solely the dose determines that a thing is not a poison.

>> No.19398130

R3 starches are okay. Some starches feed the wrong bacteria. Fructose/sucrose that splits into fructose is not the same as stuff that breaks down into just glucose. Fructose damages mitochondria. Simple stuff.

>> No.19398132

>>19398128
>Solely the dose determines that a thing is not a poison.
people eat a lot of macros

>> No.19398137

>>19396299
>>19397050
Please stop posting this spent soil shit in every thread. Vegetables are lower in nutrients now because commercial varieties are absolute dogshit bred for ease of harvest, transport, uniformity, size, basically everything except taste and nutrition.

>> No.19398145

>>19398130
Very few people understand the implications of mitochondrial poisoning. If mitochondria get sick or die, it can no longer burn any energy. At that point talking about calories or metabolism is fucking pointless. It'd be like talking about how much fuel a car uses when the car doesn't even have an engine.

>> No.19398364

>>19398137
Your wrong though
>Scientists say that the root of the problem lies in modern agricultural processes that increase crop yields but disturb soil health. These include irrigation, fertilisation, and harvesting methods that also disrupt essential interactions between plants and soil fungi, which reduces absorption of nutrients from the soil.
https://www.nationalgeographic.co.uk/environment-and-conservation/2022/05/fruits-and-vegetables-are-less-nutritious-than-they-used-to-be

>> No.19398379

>>19398364
Imagine thinking something is correct purely because it begins with the words "Scientists say". Fucking bugman.

>> No.19398411

>>19398379
>T. antivaxxxer

>> No.19398600

>>19398379
This is a silly assumption considering what website we're on. I'm obviously not a science truster. In this case I just thought it's correct because it's the only explanation I've ever heard. Joe Rogan had a farmer on his podcast who was very anti-mainsteam agriculture, his whole deal was about regenerative farming and how eating meat is actually good for the environment if you grow it correctly. And he also said the same explanation about how nitrogen fertilizer and bad farming practices are wringing all the nutrients out of the soil. And I also heard this Indian swami guy saying the same explanation one time on a different forum.

So I'm open to getting redpilled on this topic but you need to give me a little more of a convincing argument.

>> No.19398681

>>19398116
Because they put preservatives in it for a longer shelf life.

>> No.19398874

>>19396366

tbf the cabbage soup diet really does work, you drop weight stupid quick on it from personal experience. Its also not that bad of a meal if you throw in some cayenne pepper and a potato or two into the typical recipe.

>> No.19398902

>>19398874
Of course it works. You can eat 6-7 bowls "meals" throughout the day and still barely break 1000 calories. It's just not something you can do for any extended period of time and as soon as you stop you're going to jump right back to your previous weight.

>> No.19399121

>>19398600
If there's been a study between the exact same variety of crop grown on "depleted" soil vs non "depleted", whatever that means then id like to see it. I stated an absolute fact, which is commercial varieties, organic included, are slop bred for everything but taste and nutrition. Worrying about the soil is pointless because it's going to be shit no matter what.

>> No.19399129

>>19398600
I'm not trying to convince you of anything, I'm just sick of seeing people leaning on the credentials of others like this is the fucking dark ages.

>> No.19399134

>>19395748
You can't really call them people.

>> No.19399174

>>19397816
Macronutrients are fat, carbs, and protein. Micronutrients are vitamins and minerals.

>> No.19399228

>>19395765
American diet fats/fads;
1. Subsidized taxpayer funded agriculture (for export)
2. Surplus
3. Marketing
4. Average American goyslop enjoyer
5. I'm gluten free and keto!

>> No.19399265 [DELETED] 

>>19397399
>EAT THE SUGAR RIGHT NOW GOYIM DON'T YOU WANT TO BE A MATURE ADULT LIKE UNCLE MOSHE? JUST EAT SOME SUGAR FROSTED ROUNDUP FLAKES AND WATCH RICK AND MORTY GOY!

>> No.19399399

>>19395765
>Everything has to be either an absolute good or bad.
it's not just in the context of food (i.e. moderation) either, it seems like any form of nuance or duality tends to get conglomerated into black or white these days.
I blame social media.

>> No.19399405

>>19395748
>>a macronutrient is bad for you
An excess of any one thing is bad for you.
Get a medium fry next time, OP.

>> No.19399412 [DELETED] 

>>19399399
Or it could be that 90%+ of what we consume is poisoned by deliberate bad actors, be it physically or mentally, so naturally people are having a strong reaction to that realization.

>> No.19399453

>>19395748
We produce carb-heavy foods in vast excess because they're easy to farm and preserve. This excess supply leads to excess consumption, which happens to be pretty unhealthy.
As with anything, balance it with other stuff and you'll be fine.

>> No.19399489

>>19399453
It's not about macronutrients. It's about how processed those macronutrients are. But please, keep fighting amongst yourselves goyim.

>> No.19399518

>>19399121
https://chriskresser.com/depletion-of-soil-and-what-can-be-done/
Here's an article with citations which explains the mechanisms by which the soil becomes depleted and why this results in reduced nutrients in plants. I can't find the exact study you're asking for after a cursory Google search but I don't think the idea of soil depletion seems very controversial. It seems like pretty much all the mainstream sources and "alternative" sources agree that it exists and why it happens.
I believe you that modern commercial varieties of vegetables are worse for you than the old ones, but it doesn't seem to be the case that we shouldn't worry about the soil at all.
>>19399129
Dude you're really overcorrecting here. I agree that people shouldn't lean on the credentials of others when those people are saying things that fly in the face of logic, evidence, and reason. Especially when the stakes are high. For example, it's obvious to anyone with a brain that the covid vaccinations caused more harm than good, and that they were only authorized and pushed by the government because the FDA is completely captured by the pharmaceutical industry. People who trusted the science and got the vaccine are cattle.
But in this case, we're talking about a relatively mundane and niche topic which I don't have any personal experience with and which isn't that important. Scientists in a number of mainstream publications say that vegetables have less nutrients because the soil is bad. I have no means to produce an original opinion on the topic, I have never been provided with data to the contrary, and the guy disagreeing with me can't even provide a reasoned counterargument. So why shouldn't I believe it?

>> No.19399536

>>19399489
Can you define the term "processed" in this context? Did my wheat become unhealthy because it touched a metal chute or a conveyor belt?

>> No.19399542

>>19399536
Yes, because it's lubricated with seed oils and pumped full of high fructose corn syrup.

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>carboschizo thread
lol stop eating fucking carbs, schizo

>> No.19399562

>>19399536
Go watch any video you like on the production of cooking oils or sugars, etc. It's all high temperatures and chemical rinses for maximum extraction. You think those temperatures and chemicals aren't fucking with the macros on a chemical level?

>> No.19399565

>CARBS BAD
God I am looking forward to when this wank is debunked in 7 years and I don't have to hear morons shouting it literally every time food is mentioned in conversation.

>> No.19399582

>>19399562
I eat whatever I want and I feel fine, so no I don't. I think it's schizo to sit around and imagine up diseases that you can't even feel.

>> No.19399595 [DELETED] 

>>19399551
kek sugarslaves absolutely destroyed

>> No.19399599 [DELETED] 

>>19399582
>JUST EAT THE SUGAR GOY IT DOESN'T MATTER THAT WE SOAK IT IN ACETONE TO EXTRACT IT OKAY I FEEL FINE EATING ONLY KOSHER FOOD THAT MEANS GOYSLOP IS FINE FOR YOU TOO! IGNORE THE OBESITY AND REPRODUCTION CRISES OKAY GOYIM JUST HAVE A LITTLE ROUNDUP BREAD AND A BIG BOWL OF SUGER ROUNDUP FLAKES RIGHT NOW!

>> No.19399609 [DELETED] 

>>19399595
That online says grains are rare. Populations like that usually still eat a good amount of fruit and honey.

>> No.19399617

>>19399595
That only says grains are rare. Populations like that usually still eat a good amount of fruit and especially honey.

>> No.19399689 [DELETED] 

>>19399617
>sugarslave just keeps making delusional excuses because he can't fucking cope

>> No.19399691 [DELETED] 

>>19399617
Yeah and look at the populations who eat lots of fruit. Ever seen a samoan? lol life expectancy in the 40s idiot

>> No.19399843

carbs are good for you.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cOZH57odl_k

>> No.19399873

>>19399689
Breh

>>19399691
Modern Samoan diet is filled with processed junk food, not fruit.

>> No.19399953 [DELETED] 

>>19399873
any excuse but the sugar right fellow goodgoy?

>> No.19399982

>>19399953
Do you mean refined sugar? I think that's bad especially since it's put into everything. I don't think fruit is bad though and I've read some studies showing honey isn't as bad as refined sugar.

>> No.19400026 [DELETED] 

>>19399982
Well you're incorrect, fructose has one of the highest glycemic indexes among the various types of sugars

>> No.19400053

>>19399518
I don't see anything in that article that proves soil depletion causes less nutritious crops. In fact they mention a lot of different things which may or may not contribute to less nutritious crops.
Plants don't care if you feed them synthetic or organic fertilizer, they don't need soil at all (hydroponics).

>> No.19400080

>>19400026
Something about honey showed it causing less of a blood sugar spike in those studies though.

>> No.19400138

I do a low carb diet as recently diagnosed diabetic. I don't really understand why keto is so contentious

>> No.19400140

this thread again

>> No.19400151

>>19400138
>I don't really understand why keto is so contentious
It puts fruit in the same category as soda because they both have carbs but ignores how they affect the body very differently. Keto is great for getting people to eat less junk food and reverse diabetes though.

>> No.19400152 [DELETED] 

>>19400138
Reddit programming to make morons keep eating the carcinogens. Same shit with the reddit pro-vax shilling and the reddit pro-covid narrative shilling. NPCs think whatever they're told to think.

>> No.19400182

>>19400152
>Reddit
Has a keto subreddit with millions of members.

>> No.19400193 [DELETED] 

>>19400182
And blatant jewish propaganda filling the front page every single day with hundreds of millions of bots supporting it

>> No.19400288

>>19396299
correct about the effect, but doesn't understand the cause
>>19398137
correct
>>19398364
gb2reddit faggot

>> No.19401948

>>19399843
wtf now I want beans

>> No.19401954

>>19399582
>diseases that you can't even feel
Fucking what? Every disease that's risen in numbers since food started becoming more processed in the 50s is suspect. I assure you, lots of people can feel obesity and diabetes.

>> No.19402843

>>19399551
If you actually thinks this proves anything you are a pseud

>> No.19403095 [DELETED] 

>>19402843
>SOURCE? SOURCE? OY VEY! THAT SOURCE ISN'T VALID GOYIM! EAT THE SUGAR AND SEED OILS GOY! EAT THEM GOYIM! YOU DON'T HAVE A SOURCE DOWNVOTED GOYIM EAT THE FUCKING POISON RIGHT NOW GOYYYYYYYYYYY

>> No.19403100

>>19396585
If they're acting as individuals to exploit the goys then wouldn't they be individual pieces of shit who are jews instead of da joos?

>> No.19403123 [DELETED] 

>>19403100
>deliberately poison the food and water supply to make Humanity sick and sterile exactly like you have been poisoning the wells for thousands of years
No, it's the jews.

>> No.19403140

>>19399551
Maybe Schizos are rare there because the tribals kill and eat them

>> No.19403177

>>19402843
schizocope

>>19403140
No you must only eat the strong or else you'll get the crazy too

>> No.19403182

>>19400053
>they don't need soil at all
of course they dont smoothbrain, you can grow leftover lettuce in water. That doesn't mean it has hardly any nutrients/enzymes that are gonna extend your life or make you healthy at all.
This is why plants that make it naturally in adverse conditions are the golden standard but thats barely even possible on our planet now

>> No.19403247

>>19395748
This all stems from people relying on prepackaged and fast foods rather than relying on their own cooking skills using whole ingredients. When these people say "carbs are bad" they are talking about corn syrup laden grocery store breads and mcdonalds french fries because that's all they know. It's like how a person's thoughts are limited by the constraints of their language. They've never baked their own bread from scratch or cooked a dinner using a whole chicken, fresh vegetables, and whole grains so they don't understand that bread made from whole ingredients in your own kitchen is perfectly fine. They are scrambling to find SOMETHING to blame their poor health on, and within their highly processed diets, carbs are the most heavily processed. Even still, they're failing to realize that it's actually their entire diet that's the issue.

>> No.19403252

>>19395748
Carbs are not bad but sugar has zero nutritional value

>> No.19403344

people are really so obsessed with jews that they'll clog their arteries and stroke out on keto just like Jack. if anything, convincing people that carbs are bad is the jewish trick in order to get idiots on keto

>> No.19403493

>>19399551
might be worth something if you could control for inbred schizo semites

>> No.19403515

>>19403344
>stroke out on keto just like Jack
Jack had strokes before trying keto.

>> No.19403517

>>19403515
and he had even more after

>> No.19403541

>>19403517
I kind of doubt he didn't continue his old eating habits off camera. I don't even like the keto diet and think it has flaws but blaming his later strokes on that makes it seem like you just have something personal against keto.

>> No.19403606 [DELETED] 

>>19403541
Of course he does, he's an NPC. He also wants you to get the death dose and to believe that russian bots got trump elected

>> No.19403611 [DELETED] 

>>19403344
Shalom!

>> No.19403902

I wonder if the schizo ITT goes on unhinged rants about Jews IRL or just on the tranime imageboard

>> No.19404168 [DELETED] 

>>19403902
I wonder if the jew ITT molests children IRL or just on the tranime discord

>> No.19404723

>>19398364
What do you think that fertilizer does?

>> No.19405011

>>19395748
You need SOME, SOMETIMES that is, THERE.

Sugar is what you need to avoid as much as you can.

>> No.19405674

>>19395748
Keto proponents can never give a reason why you would want to cut out carbs completely, when all successful athletes eat carbs to fuel their performance. I tried keto myself for a few months and saw my performance in the gym deteriorate. Why would I artificially limit my progress like that?

>> No.19405761

>>19396702
>starts with a good point
>ends with prattling leftism
Yeah I think I like keto now

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>>19405761

>> No.19407106

>>19405674
There's some kind of trick with that where you alternate every few days to refuel on glycogen stores. I can't remember what it was now, it's been a while

>> No.19407168 [DELETED] 

>>19407098
>EAT THE SUGAR GOYIM
>no I don't want to it's bad for you
>STOP DEFENDING BILLIONARES
You are out of your fucking mind

>> No.19407170 [DELETED] 

>>19405674
>lying jew tries to poison the well because he just can't fucking stand that the goyim know that uncle silverberg's sugar causes cancer

>> No.19407184

>>19407170
Anon, that's a legitimate problem with exercising and low to no carbohydrate diets.

>> No.19407208

>>19396546
go back poltard

>> No.19407230

>>19397120
The majority of people's diets in the past consisted of carbs, specifically starches and grains. The only thing that's risen worldwide in the past 50 years is consumption of meat and dairy

>> No.19407248

>>19396633
kek

>> No.19407254

>>19407230
>The only thing that's risen worldwide in the past 50 years is consumption of meat and dairy
Highly processed foods, which have been shown to increase total amount of calories consumed. And any diet leads to weight loss as long as they're excluded.

>> No.19407285

>>19407254
Yeah but all the people in this thread saying bread/rice/potatoes/fruit make you fat simply doesn't align with history. Processed foods have increased yes, but the only major food groups that have alongside that is meat and dairy

>> No.19407367

>>19407285
Diets higher in meat and dairy still lead to weight loss as long as processed food is reduced. And you have groups of people like the Inuit and the Maasai who get most of their calories from animal products but aren't all obese. Processed food is addictive, low nutrition, and high in calories, the worst food you can eat for health, and people are eating a lot of it.

>> No.19407458 [DELETED] 

>>19407208
>OY VEY SHUT IT THE FUCK DOWN THIS GOYIM KNOWS HELP! HELP! IT'S THE DOLLARCAUST! NOBODY IS BUYING LUCKY CHARMS HELLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLP!!!!!!!!

>> No.19407482

the fuck is a macronutrient? can i see it? no? then its not fucking macro anything

>> No.19407509

>>19395781
It's the Dunning-Kruger effect.

>>19398874
>>19398902
It's a great way to "reset" for lack of a better word for a day of two (after a day of heavy drinking or eating for instance), but it's not sustainable, yeah.

>> No.19407542

>>19395748
Carbo bad, carbo good, meat good, meat bad, fuck it just give me the kidney stones and heartattack already I'll just eat whatever the fuck.

>> No.19409437

carbs are poison