what the hell does EVERYTHING have fucking soybean oil in it now?

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Anonymous Wed Mar 29 02:02:52 2023 No.19102669 [Reply] [Original]

what the hell does EVERYTHING have fucking soybean oil in it now?

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 29 02:04:55 2023 No.19102680 File: 68 KB, 1163x715, you are stupid.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>19102669 you are stupid. first reason why X is in everything... IT'S CHEAP!

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 29 02:06:17 2023 No.19102685 It's probably the globalists targeting you personally, better go build a shack out in the woods

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 29 02:38:01 2023 No.19102799 >>19102680 cheap is not healty to consume

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 29 02:42:00 2023 No.19102816 >>19102669 probably better than palm oil at least

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 29 02:42:32 2023 No.19102822 >>19102669 farm subsidies from the feds, big ag lobbyists, the usual culprits

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 29 02:43:59 2023 No.19102827 >>19102799 nothing is healthy things are just less bad

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 29 02:44:31 2023 No.19102829 >>19102799 Why would kroger, kraft, tyson, conagra, campbell's, proctor and gamble, kellogg's, post, general mills, hostess of any of the others give a fuck about whether a product is healthy or not?

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 29 02:48:31 2023 No.19102847 I think OP is terminally retarded and never passed middle school. Everyone point and laugh. Probably a ketolard too.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 29 03:10:12 2023 No.19102950 >>19102847 please tell me why its healthy to consume soybean oil with every single food you eat each day?

Anonymous Wed Mar 29 03:29:05 2023 No.19103032
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>>19102829
>>19102799
if people refused to buy unhealthy shit, they wouldn't sell it.

they make it because, when given the option side-by-side, people repeatedly choose the cheaper one if they can rationalize that it's just as good and the other one is just an unfairly marked up scam

Anonymous Wed Mar 29 03:53:20 2023 No.19103131

Soybean oil is a lot less bad than palm oil. Palm oil just gets in you and coats everything, hardly ever gets out. For the most part soybean oil is not that much different than other vegetable oils like canola.
We went from consuming, maybe, a tablespoon of palm oil on average per year in specialty manufactured foods to about 12 lbs. per year per american per year around 2010. 13 years of consumption, no testing done, no idea if it's going to be safe, I'm waiting for the other shoe to drop.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 29 03:57:26 2023 No.19103144 what are the most based alternatives to sneed oils? I want to try duck fat but it's $1.07 / ounce. is that normal?

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 29 04:01:27 2023 No.19103160 >>19103144 yes. Chicken fat no less than $2.73 / ounce. Goose fat no less than $3 / ounce. Etc. bird fat is a specialty product today, unless you were rendering your own expect to pay. Anyway Lard. Butter.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 29 04:41:13 2023 No.19103302 >>19102827 Unironically true. Calorie restriction, the reduction of dietary intake below energy requirements while maintaining optimal nutrition, is the only known nutritional intervention with the potential to attenuate aging.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 29 04:45:35 2023 No.19103314 >>19103144 just don't re-use sneed oils and you're fin- >what's most based i'm sure we'd all be impressed if you just switched to pork fat

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 29 04:48:17 2023 No.19103321 >>19102669 All prepackaged food is full of stuff like that and HFCS because it's cheap and convenient, how are people still surprised by this in the current year?

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 29 04:49:22 2023 No.19103324 >>19102669 >Prepackaged salad dressing Why are you surprised it's made of garbage?

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 29 09:12:42 2023 No.19103964 >>19102799 lol did you think BIG COMPANY cares about your health?

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 29 09:16:05 2023 No.19103972 >>19102799 Johnson and Johnson had a forced recall because there was asbestos in their baby powder and they FUCKING KNEW IT.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 29 09:18:04 2023 No.19103975 >>19102669 >now i've been vegan since the late 1900s, which means i've been aware of every ingredient in any product i touch, and normie slop has been like that at least that long

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 29 09:19:12 2023 No.19103980 File: 170 KB, 1500x1157, noodles.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>19103131 I will never stop eating it

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 29 09:42:19 2023 No.19104019 >>19103131 At the point I noticed it popping up everywhere I cut palm oil from my diet. It may not actually be that bad, but avoiding palm oil usually means avoiding trash-tier food so it's always a win in the end.

Anonymous Wed Mar 29 11:02:45 2023 No.19104162

>>19103032
>if people refused to buy unhealthy shit, they wouldn't sell it.
nobody looks like ingredients anymore. people willing buy 200% DV sodium or 60g sugar drinks without question.
also by fucking with food formulas that have been around for decades. nobody would expect to find bad ingredients in a food that never had them for 50+ years

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 29 22:59:45 2023 No.19105890 >>19103980 wtf is it

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 30 00:09:52 2023 No.19106063 >>19105890 palm oil flavored ramen from Indonesia

Anonymous Thu Mar 30 03:29:57 2023 No.19106629

>>19103144
Tallow, ghee, olive oil, and coconut oil are good. All other vegetable oils are bad. Bird fat is highly polyunsaturated. Lard is almost as bad as vegetable oil now because they feed pigs soy and corn to fatten them so their fat becomes mostly PUFA.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 30 03:30:46 2023 No.19106630 >>19102685 You make a lot of sense. Thanks for the suggestion, anon!

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 30 03:55:12 2023 No.19106684 >>19102799 Okay, then pay more to get a healthier product you fucking ape

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 30 03:56:23 2023 No.19106685 >>19106629 that's not how it works

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 30 03:56:47 2023 No.19106687 i picked up a big bottle of arizona ice tea the other day and was surprised to see oils in it

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 30 03:57:47 2023 No.19106690 >>19103131 >Palm oil just gets in you and coats everything what

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 30 04:00:59 2023 No.19106696 >>19106687 Arizona doesn't have sneed oils, retard

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 30 04:02:05 2023 No.19106701 >>19102669 cheap filler. 95% of the average american's pantry is nothing but corn and soy goychow puffed, fried, baked and/or artificially flavored to make zero nutrition foods that just make you want to eat more.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 30 04:02:46 2023 No.19106702 >>19106696 excuse me sir, hfcs. same thing

Anonymous Thu Mar 30 04:08:56 2023 No.19106709

>>19103131
soybean and canola oil are both incredibly bad for you. They are extracted using benzene based solvents, heavily oxidized to improve shelf life and deodorize the rancid taste, this means it's full of free radical oxidative compounds that cause DNA damage (ie, carcinogenic, and also increasing your genetic age even if they don't give you cancer).
These oils are also rich in Omega-6 fatty acids which is advertised as a health benefit and essential nutrient. Which they are, but you only need a tiny amount of them. Your omega 6 to omega 3 ratio needs to be around 1:1 to minimize inflammatory stress on your body. The average American's is about 20:1. A very large proportion of the health benefits of Omega 3s are imo just a result of how the average American has such a horrifically out of balance ratio, so anything that brings you a little closer to parity has an apparent positive health effect.

The really fucked up thing is olive oil is commonly adulterated with industrial seed oil and companies hardly get penalized for it. There are only a few brands/places I trust for olive oil. Olive oil and butter are all you need. Coconut/MCT oil are ketard nonsense and I don't trust avocado oil for shit.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 30 04:46:16 2023 No.19106794 >>19106709 what kind of places do you recommend anon?

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 30 06:38:10 2023 No.19107015 File: 32 KB, 641x729, expert on this topic.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >soybean oil good because organic vegan cruelty free ethically sourced >palmoil bad because picture of sad monkey

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 30 11:12:32 2023 No.19107400 >>19102669 You WILL be a woman

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 30 11:20:33 2023 No.19107413 >>19103032 yep solution:only buy organic fresh food or even better grow your own

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 30 11:22:41 2023 No.19107416 Every single mainstream bread manufacturer in my country uses soy flour. It tastes like shit! Only two ways about getting real bread now, bake your own or find a proper bakery.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 30 11:28:42 2023 No.19107425 File: 761 KB, 1895x1181, 1543180570961.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>19107015 >soybean oil bad because sad monkey (me)

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 30 11:36:34 2023 No.19107436 File: 2.89 MB, 358x640, fuck yeah mayo.webm [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Best foods mayo used sunflower oil tastes so good I eat it out of the jar. Duke mayo on the otherhand uses soy oil and tastes rancid.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 30 11:48:51 2023 No.19107457 >>19106794 >can't identify good olive oil ngmi In seriousness, your olive oil should come in a glass bottle or metal tin. It should be EVOO, dark green, and possibly a bit cloudy.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 30 12:08:55 2023 No.19107498 >>19102669 come on now, you know why

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 30 12:13:54 2023 No.19107510 >>19107436 This seems so much simpler than my pseudo-intellectual challenging life

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 30 12:32:00 2023 No.19107539 File: 1.80 MB, 2560x2560, file.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >bottle says Mayo with OLIVE OIL >read back label >ingredients eggs, olive oil, SOYBEAN OIL AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

Anonymous Thu Mar 30 12:35:51 2023 No.19107548
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>>19106690
its an exaggeration to simplify the details. palm oil is prized by manufacturers for its extraordinary shelf life. the same things that give it an extraordinary shelf life also reflects in the body. Fatty deposits in the arteries. Literal palm oil deposits.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 30 12:55:13 2023 No.19107577 File: 236 KB, 1200x900, Rainforest in Brazil.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>19102669 Because it became dirt cheap.

Anonymous Thu Mar 30 17:27:21 2023 No.19108234

>>19102822
>farm subsidies from the feds, big ag lobbyists, the usual culprits
I am genuinely disappointed that one person posted the right answer. The average American has no idea how big Ag-lobbying and its corruption is. It's the same for HFCS because of subsidies and import taxes on refined sugar.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 30 18:23:56 2023 No.19108395 >>19106629 > literally everything wrong this is what happens when you are stupid as fuck, you can just make shit up and refuse to actually educate yourself

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 30 18:27:32 2023 No.19108405 >>19106709 > lying on the internet https://www.hsph.harvard.edu/nutritionsource/2015/04/13/ask-the-expert-concerns-about-canola-oil/

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 30 18:57:54 2023 No.19108487 >only eat and buy slop >wonder why everything has slopsauce in it Well gee I wonder why?

Anonymous Thu Mar 30 22:07:51 2023 No.19109036

>>19108405
uh, your article just confirms what I said? Hexane is a benzene solvent. The heating and deodorization process oxidizes the oil, damaging the fatty acids and also producing free radicals which he does not discuss. He doesn't get into the specifics around n3-n6 ratio but notes that the n3 fatty acids that do exist in seed oils are largely destroyed by heating which is part of the process. He also adds in trace transfats concern and tricks they can do to show "0%" according to the FDA which is also real.

The article is correct that sneed oils, in moderation, are not that unhealthy. I will occasionally eat food cooked in them. But EVERY processed food is loaded with them. The average Amerigolem consumes 20% of his daily caloric intake from seed oils.

Anonymous Thu Mar 30 22:30:04 2023 No.19109090

>>19102669
>gubbermint subsidizes the ass out of soybeans and corn
>farmers grow tons of it for money because $200k tractors don't pay for themselves inb4 hurr durr consooooooooooooooooooooomer just luck yourself into owning some handmedown 100 year old tractor from grandpa
>there's a fuckton of it
>corps will buy them and use them
It's the same reason there's all the partially-corn-ethanol gasoline mixes out there for the past couple decades. Why not just make engines that run purely on ethanol? Who knows.

>>19102799
>can buy potatoes and meat for cheap
>NOOOOOOOOOOOO NOT HEALTHY YOU MUST PAY ME MORE MONEY
Piss off wanker.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 30 23:55:33 2023 No.19109299 >>19102829 Its unethical to not offer healthier food.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 31 00:13:22 2023 No.19109349 >>19107548 >he same things that give it an extraordinary shelf life also reflects in the body. Source?

Anonymous Fri Mar 31 00:18:37 2023 No.19109374

>>19109090
>Why not just make engines that run purely on ethanol
Ethanol fuel has no shelf life, that's why.
If you leave it to set for any significant amount of time, it decomposes. The actual fuel part of it will settle out on the bottom, leaving the water and other additives to float on top.

This is bad enough for most fuel systems. However, it gets worse. There are microbes that can live within the water that separates out. They feed on the carbon compounds in the fuel; it's still organic matter, after all. This turns the whole mixture into slime. It gets into fuel pumps and destroys the whole fuel system.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 31 00:29:29 2023 No.19109422 >>19102680 No, it's deliberate poisoning by "people" who hate humanity because their demon god is jealous of humans

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 31 06:13:20 2023 No.19110444 >>19102680 Your mom needs to get her nose out of my life, that cheap whore.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 31 06:20:51 2023 No.19110474 >>19102669 how about you cook your own food instead of gulping down whatever slop that is

Anonymous Fri Mar 31 08:33:54 2023 No.19110664

>>19102669
The only nutrients you need to avoid are sugar, trans fats and saturated fats

Hfcs is purely sugar so obviously avoid that

Palm oil is high in saturated fat

Soybean oil is not the worst (but not the best either). Trans fat content might be concerning but trace amounts of trans fat can be found in any oil.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 31 08:38:55 2023 No.19110670 >>19105890 literally the most popular instant ramen on the market

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 31 08:45:55 2023 No.19110676 >>19110664 >The only nutrients you need to avoid are sugar, trans fats and saturated fats what a miserable life

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 31 09:14:53 2023 No.19110698 >>19110676 Yeah it sucks But the mires is what keeps me going. Once I'm old and ugly I will start to enjoy food more but for now I am perfectly content eating clean.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 31 14:58:28 2023 No.19111311 >>19110698 >sacrifice all happiness and comfort so you can maybe do and enjoy things when you're old and decrepit and no longer able to do or enjoy things What a terrible mindset.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 31 17:00:31 2023 No.19111670 >>19102669 5G antennas from the vaccine use it as their main fuel source.

Anonymous Fri Mar 31 17:35:22 2023 No.19111757

>>19111311
In contrary, I sacrifice a tiny bit of happiness and comfort to feel even more happy and comfortable (especially when I go to festivals which is at least once a month). I am your typical festival-going zoomer with a small but ok sixpack that gets some attention.

You might call it sad but I am happier this way.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 31 17:46:12 2023 No.19111794 >>19111670 someone poisoned the well and now you discredit any possibility that big business could possibly sell you something that's bad for your health; despite history. While you're trying to mock people to feel smarter, the fool here is you.

Anonymous Fri Mar 31 17:48:51 2023 No.19111806

>>19106709
>A very large proportion of the health benefits of Omega 3s are imo just a result of how the average American has such a horrifically out of balance ratio, so anything that brings you a little closer to parity has an apparent positive health effect.
based, i've been saying that for years.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 31 17:49:52 2023 No.19111810 >>19111794 nigger if you are already buying goyslop, it's on you if they decide to add another toxic ingredient.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 31 17:55:17 2023 No.19111822 >>19103144 butter, baconfat

>>	Escape the matrix ASAP Fri Mar 31 18:13:02 2023 No.19111864 >>19102669 because, the deep state wants all men to look like Ben Shapiro or Tim Pool I'd rather look like a fisherman

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