/ck/ - Food & Cooking

[Anonymous No.18941427]

Is a pizza stone actually better for cooking frozen pizzas than the wire rack?

[Anonymous No.18941499]

>>18941427
I'm also interested in this, never used one and always went straight for the wire rack.

Most importantly, can I put the pizza stone in the dishwasher?

[Anonymous No.18941510]

>>18941427
>>18941499
>frozen
usually no, since most frozen pizzas are pre-baked.
To get the benefit of a pizza stone, you need to have fresh, unbaked dough. Then it's superior to the wire rack in every way

>dishwasher
heavens no. Some are probably dishwasher safe, but it's not hard to use some warm water on them once they have cooled down

[Anonymous No.18941512]

>>18941427
Markedly

[Anonymous No.18941523]

>>18941427
brother, with a pizza stone, you'll make your own dough.
it is not complicated, it is enjoyable

[Anonymous No.18941532]

>>18941427
yes, but pans are serviceable enough if you aren't a "Waste dough pie" conny-sewer.
Wire rack is ONLY suitable for a straight outta the box FrozePidzer--often with CATASTROPHIC results.
>3.6 ranchgoens--Not great, not terrible

[Anonymous No.18941541]

>>18941427
Yes, frozen pizza comes out as good or better on a stone which has the added benefit of catching any cheese/toppings that would otherwise fall onto the oven floor.

[Anonymous No.18941555]

>>18941523
It is.
Op should know that a pizza stone should have a pizza peel as well, but unlioke a mortar without a pestle, I've used a flat baking sheet with a pizza stone in an oven to no great detriment.
A good wire brush is helpful as well--Too many sad instances of a hot stone being thrown in a sink---
>you now have $20 worth of broken ceramic garbage

[Anonymous No.18941563]

>>18941510
It still improves frozen pizza if you use a pizza stone, you can preheat your pizza stone nice and hot to like 500F, then throw your frozen pizza on it and turn the oven temp down to whatever temp the pizza normally cooks at (so you don't burn your toppings) and then just keep an eye on it and when the cheese is fully melted and looking your preferred color of golden//brown if you prefer things cooked a bit extra.

Takes a bit longer to preheat, but cooks in ~10-12 minutes instead of 18-22.

End result is a much crisper crust underneath and a less floppy pizza.

pic very much related

[Anonymous No.18941571]

>>18941563
yes, that picrel does look nice.
I had no good experiences with whatever they sell as frozen pizza here, so there may be a difference between italian style and american style

[Anonymous No.18941637]

>>18941427
no a wire rack is probably better
stones are good but only if you use them right which requires you to preheat the fuck out of them

[Anonymous No.18941653]

>>18941499
>pizza stone in the dishwasher?
no, i don't even use soap because the stone in porous so just a good scrub with hot water and a sponge

[Anonymous No.18941668]

I just got a pizza stone, I preheated it for 15 minutes at 425 like the instructions said, I made three pizzas and the 3rd was the most crispy. So I should preheat longer than the instructions said to right?

[Anonymous No.18941693]

Best homemade pizza is in a pan. Fight me.

[Anonymous No.18941696]

>>18941555
>totinos
>in a box
>10.7 oz
this picture must be over 10 years old by now

[Anonymous No.18941697]

You can cook straight from the freezer pizza on these things? I thought the temp shock fucked with the ceramic. I've got one and used it on a 'frozen' pizza once. The pizza had thawed out by the time I got home so I figured I'd use the pizza stone and it worked pretty well. I haven't used it since cause I don't want to thaw the pizza every time. I swear if you guys are fucking around and this thing explodes, you better hope it kills me

[Anonymous No.18941755]

>>18941668
pro tip:
be fearful they like to crack when hot but if you preheat the stone on the very top rack the move it to lower middle rack the crust will cook more/faster then the cheese
if your crust is cooking to fast cook on a higher rack so the cheese cooks up faster

[Anonymous No.18941756]

>>18941696
Dunno--I don't eat that shit.
I pulled the pic off startpage before I HEAVILY altered it--Look again.

[Anonymous No.18941774]

>>18941697
32 degrees vs 60 degrees isn't a huge difference, compared to the temperature of the stone which is 450 degrees. It literally can't tell whether the pizza is frozen.

[Anonymous No.18941790]

>>18941697
I've cooked probably 30-40 frozen pizzas directly from the freezer on my preheated (at 500F) pizzastone and never had any problems. >>18941563

[Anonymous No.18941824]

>>18941774
Plus, most frozen pidzers aren't completely "Flat", in that you don't get 100% contact--more like 60-70%.
Water, on the other hand...

[Anonymous No.18941867]

>>18941427
Pizza stones are a meme for snobs with more money than sense. Just buy one of these aluminum pizza trays if you want crispy crust bottoms. Especially if you're eating frozen pidser.

[Anonymous No.18941870]

>>18941427
Steel works better but stones are cheaper.

[Anonymous No.18941876]

Yes, pizza stones are absolutely better for cooking frozen pizzas as well. However you need to heat it up for 40-60 minutes. It leaves the bottom much much crisper, can even get a bit of mild leoparding on certain pizzas. I recommend that you let the pizza rest on the stone for 1-2 minutes after taking it out as well.

[Anonymous No.18941877]

>>18941756
nicely done
>death
have a (you)

[Anonymous No.18941886]

>>18941877
>Checked
Thanks.
t. HAVE eaten these and those microwave pidzers that you heat up on that grey PVC,(yes, PVC,) panel.
I repented from that over 4 years ago--
>I eat CANCER, not the other way around.
(I hope)

[Anonymous No.18941887]

>>18941876
>let the pizza rest on the stone for 1-2 minutes after taking it out as well.
i hear people's stones cracking all the time this must be why
i leave mine in the oven to cool of slowly and slide it pizza out onto a cutting board

[Anonymous No.18941916]

>>18941876
>let the pizza rest on the stone for 1-2 minutes after taking it out
You should not take the stone out of the oven while it's hot. It will explode. Remove just the pizza by itself using a peel.

[Anonymous No.18941958]

>>18941427
>>18941499
No. The big brands have a team of food scientists that have completely optimized the piz to cook on a wire rack. It won't cook well on the bottom. Tried a few times myself and my cousin works in a pizza plant

[Anonymous No.18941971]

>>18941958
Debooonked by:
>>18941563

[Anonymous No.18942190]

>>18941427
If you want the bottom of the pizza to be crispy, then yes, it'll help any pizza you make in the oven, frozen or not.

[Anonymous No.18942440]

>>18941427
steel/iron pan is better. Wire rack is a leak and spill hazard for the unskilled who poke hole in the dough or overfill the pizza damn and then leaks water and oil to the sides.

[Anonymous No.18942471]

>>18941427
yes

[Anonymous No.18942523]

No it fucking isn't. Your frozen shit is prebaked, preshaped and preseasoned you motherfucking morons. A stone or better yet steel, will properly cook your fresh dough and give you the desired cornicione.
Why in the everliving fuck would you bother otherwise you dense fucks?

[Anonymous No.18942527]

>>18941427
Stop eating frozen pizza faggots they're full of preservatives .
Pizza is easy asf to make yourself so make your own

[Anonymous No.18942544]

>>18941427
doubt it, pizza stones are to make fresh dough rapidly rise.

[Anonymous No.18942551]

I've tried thawing frozen pizzas out and cooking them on a pizza steel at the hottest oven temperature, as if I would magick them into being an actually good pizza instead of frozen slop. The result is quite a bit better, but it also ramps up the effort level, which starts defeating the purpose of frozen pizza very quickly. If you're the type of retard whose idea of cooking is adding your own anchovies to your frozen pizza, this technique would absolutely appeal to you.

[Anonymous No.18942566]

>>18942551
>If you're the type of retard whose idea of cooking is adding your own anchovies to your frozen pizza, this technique would absolutely appeal to you.
Eh, frozen pizza has its place as you said. Tossing some fresh onion and a few other toppings can make a mediocre frozen pizza into something a good bit better. Clearly not amazing but home made pizza can be a chore and most carry out places are no better than frozen anymore.

[Anonymous No.18942572]

>>18942566
That was definitely a self report, hehe. I am exactly that type of retard sometimes...

[Anonymous No.18942583]

>>18942572
Haha, if anyone says they never have frozen they are either Italian or a liar. I do have some tombstone pizzas that I am very tempted to try on my pizza steel though... from frozen though.

Inb4 charcoal on the bottom and raw on the top, but >>18941563 and a few others seemed to have good success. I generally dont think ahead far enough to get my steel out for frozen za

[Anonymous No.18942589]

>>18942566
homemade pizza shouldn't be a chore, you make three pizza's worth of dough when you are bored and have free time, unless you are watching the dough rise and ferment it takes less than 10 minutes total time over a couple of days. you freeze it, maybe make your pizza sauce if you want. Then you freeze it and pull it out and let it proof the day you want pizza.

[Anonymous No.18942597]

>>18941693
I prefer making them in cast iron if they go in the oven. I don't have a wood fired oven, anymore, or I would fight you, beat you and make you cry.

[Anonymous No.18942604]

>>18942597
pizza hut dominate the pizza market for decades with cast iron pan pizzas, now they don't use cast iron anymore or use fresh dough.

[Anonymous No.18943296]

>>18941427
Yes

[Anonymous No.18944390]

>>18942589
>homemade pizza shouldn't be a chore
Yeah but it is.

[Anonymous No.18944400]

>>18941427
yes it makes them crispier because of the radiant heat coming off the stone

[Anonymous No.18944494]

>>18941427
I always just use my stainless steel pan as a substitute for a pizza steel, seems to get the job done.

[Anonymous No.18944559]

>>18941958
>No. The big brands have a team of food scientists that have completely optimized the piz to cook on a wire rack. It won't cook well on the bottom. Tried a few times myself and my cousin works in a pizza plant

>>18941499
>I'm also interested in this, never used one and always went straight for the wire rack.
>Most importantly, can I put the pizza stone in the dishwasher?

These are shills that are trying to ruin your pizza IT WILL MELT THROUGH THE RACK AND RUIN THE PIZZA AND YOUR OVEN

>>18941532

[Anonymous No.18944570]

>>18941876
You expect me to believe a pizza stone takes an hour to reach oven temp?

[Anonymous No.18944573]

>>18942523
hey look it's the most annoying guy on 4chan

[Anonymous No.18944823]

>>18941958
>pizza plant
no amount of gaslighting will ever make me think that pizzas grow naturally in the wild anon

[Anonymous No.18944855]

>make 67% hydration dough before bed thursday
>stretch and fold like 4 times between games to build enough gluten and strength
>have 2 pizza doughs for the weekend ready and fermented by the morning
>shape them up
>put in the fridge
>take it out of fridge
>shape it slightly straight out of the fridge and let it rise again for 1 hour
>shape it
>add sauce and cheese
and the cost is like 1/10th, most of it is cheese if you buy nice quality mozz

[Anonymous No.18945372]

>>18944390
That's not how you make pizza at home.
>>18943296
Even worse.

[Anonymous No.18945539]

>>18944573
He's right you know

[Anonymous No.18945555]

>>18941427
I own a plate pizza steel, cast pizza steel, several ceramic pizza stones.
I use them strictly for fresh home made pizzas.

They dont make THAT much of a difference for frozen pizzas, but take a lot of time to heat up. Not worth fucking with, you are making crappy frozen pizza so just accept that fact.

[Anonymous No.18945577]

You can make decent pizza in a microwave with some sliced bread, shredded cheese, and pepperoni.

[Anonymous No.18945583]

last week i was feelin lazy and got a za, threw it on my pre heated stone and it stuck to it. my homemade ones dont stick

[Anonymous No.18945585]

i put a digiorno on a cookie sheet (because i just dont want crumbs, cornmeal, or fallen toppings in my oven) and its perfectly fine. rack is fine, any flat pan is fine. there is no reason to spend on some useless stone. also anons are saying that it takes longer to pre-heat? so now you have to spend on not only a useless stone, but more power AND wait longer every time? gtfo, fucking useless. absolute autism levels if there even is a slight difference in texture.

[Anonymous No.18945586]

>>18941532
>that pic
>not putting tin foil on the bottom rack

[Anonymous No.18945770]

>>18945372
>That's not how you make pizza at home.
Give me your timeline to make dough, prep and cook said pizza?

I'm waiting. Its longer than 10 mins and it is a pain so I only do it for special occasions or when I feel like it.

[Anonymous No.18946349]

>>18945770
>Give me your timeline to make dough, prep and cook said pizza?

>put pizza steel in oven, preheat to 500f
>make dough in food processor, sit in bowl to rise
Done in less than 10 minutes
>come back in 30 minutes, section out dough, roll and start second rise
Takes like 5 minutes.
>during second rise (takes approximately 15 minutes) get all your ingredients out and ready, cut your cheese etc etc.
Pushing out the dough and populating it takes 5 minutes tops.
A preheated stone cooks your pizza in 5 minutes tops.

Start to finish is like 1 hour and 20 minutes, with half of it being wait time.
A frozen pizza takes 25 minutes to cook, after a 10 minute preheat already.

Its not that hard, its not that much of a time commitment. You just like eating garbage food.

[Anonymous No.18946356]

>>18946349
That dough will taste like nothing so your 'home made pizza' bar is tremendously low rofl

[Anonymous No.18946372]

>>18946356
>man who lauds frozen pizzas and claims home made pizzas are hard
>talking about low bars

But hey, as long as we are moving goalposts, you could always ferment your dough for 24 hours.
Or would that also be too hard for you?

[Anonymous No.18948160]

>>18946372
>implying i said frozen pizza was amazing
>implying i said it was hard, just time consuming and a chore
>you post the most half assed shitty pizza recipe that wouldnt even be considered a flatbread
>doesnt account for prepping sauce, ingredients, toppings, etc other than 'durr cut some cheese hehe'

Even without all above, youre still ignoring the fact not everyone wants to take 2 hours on a weeknight, a whim, or whatever to make a pizza you fucking mongo

[Anonymous No.18948187]

>>18946349
> running my oven for 1 hour and 20 minutes