/ck/ - Food & Cooking

[Anonymous No.18667982]

"Smashed" is the superior burger patty and I'm tired of pretending it's not. Why do people make those giant hockey puck patties?

[Anonymous No.18667987]

>>18667982
I agree. Even if I grill them I make them nice and thin. Thin burgers are so much better. I loathe going to BBQs because I know that 9 times out of 10 someone will be making hockey pucks.

[Anonymous No.18667997]

>>18667982
Smashburgers are almost just crust, no interior and it will always be well done. With a thicker patty you can cook it to your likeness and of course still have a delicious seared crust.

[Anonymous No.18668002]

>>18667997
Man, I'm all for the werewolves but eating raw meat just isn't for me.

[Anonymous No.18668010]

>>18667997
>you can cook it to your likeness

[Anonymous No.18668032]

>>18667982
yes. I hardly ever get fast food burgers but that's why I like Culver's®

[Anonymous No.18668034]

>>18667997
>why would I want my sandwich to taste good? It's only upvote worthy if it tastes le shit.

[Anonymous No.18668044]

>>18667997
>>18667982
A burger is not a steak, a well done burger is still tender and juicy (at least if the beef is fatty enough), and an underdone burger is just gross and unsafe.

[Anonymous No.18668055]

>>18667997
Unfathomably based rare burger enjoyer.
At my local joint, I always order mine as rare as the cooks are comfortable with, decked out with all the veggies, a slice of sharp cheddar, and a good smothering of jalapeno mustard

[Anonymous No.18668070]

>>18668034
>If I don't like something it's impossible for anyone else to like it
>>18668044
>A burger is not a steak, a well done burger is still tender and juicy (at least if the beef is fatty enough)
Yeah but it's still well done
>, and an underdone burger is just gross and unsafe.
Not really unsafe if the proper hygiene standards have been applied and you are healthy and not very young or very old.
>>18668055
Thanks. You too are based.

[Anonymous No.18668113]

>>18667997
If you're not going to the local butcher and getting the most clean meats, like the ones used for steak taretare then cook your burger.

[Anonymous No.18668126]

>>18668070
The most dangerous part of any cut of meat is the surface, and with ground meat that surface is mixed in throughout the meat. Unless you know that meat is coming from a healthy cow slaughtered and butchered in sanitary conditions, it is not at all safe to eat ground beef raw
>yeah, but it's still well done
The crust is where a lot of a burger's flavor and texture come from, an underdone burger is just bland and mushy.

[Anonymous No.18668140]

>>18668070
I'm so sick of you. Do you live in the southern US? Could meet up somewhere and sort this out?

[Anonymous No.18668153]

>>18668126
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1992-1993_Jack_in_the_Box_E._coli_outbreak

Undercooked ground beef can be deadly. Anyone who thinks that this type of contamination outbreak can't happen again is whistling in the dark.

[Anonymous No.18668157]

>>18668140
South Carolina

[Anonymous No.18668160]

>>18668113
>the most clean meats
>like the ones used for steak tartare
retard

>>18667997
this is a bit too rare as in it looks like it didn't even have a chance to get hot in the middle. medium rare or medium is nice though

[Anonymous No.18668165]

>>18667982
Have you considered that your a pathetic foreiner and nobody gives two shits about your marketing terms like "smashed?"

[Anonymous No.18668218]

>>18668113
>If you're not going to the local butcher and getting the most clean meats, like the ones used for steak taretare then cook your burger.
In my country the minced beef in supermarkets are safe to eat.
>>18668126
>The most dangerous part of any cut of meat is the surface, and with ground meat that surface is mixed in throughout the meat. Unless you know that meat is coming from a healthy cow slaughtered and butchered in sanitary conditions, it is not at all safe to eat ground beef raw
Agree.
>>18668140
Don't live in the US, I don't think I'd dare to eat raw supermarket minced beef there.

[Anonymous No.18668223]

>>18668153
>whistling in the dark.
What?

[Anonymous No.18668236]

>>18667982
Can I make a burger patty with minced pork meat?

[Anonymous No.18668241]

>>18668236
Yes

[Anonymous No.18668257]

>>18668153
It absolutely can, but that's no argument that it's unsafe for healthy adults as long as the meat has been handled properly. The ones that die or get very ill from it are usually very young, very old and/or have a compromised immune system. Notice how the majority was children under 10 years old, and that "only" 732 was infected. 73 restaurants were involved, meaning there must have been lots of people being exposed to it that didn't get ill. Of the ones that died, it was a 6 year old, two 2 year olds and one 17-monther.

[Anonymous No.18668267]

>>18668236
A burger, by classification, is just minced meat shaped into a patty and grilled. Any meat will do.
In a similarly related note, this is why chicken sandwiches aren't called burgers. They're always just a cut of breast meat laid in the s'mich. If the chicken were ground up and shaped into a patty, then it would be a chicken burger.
I really don't understand how this is a difficult concept for so many gay retards here.

[Anonymous No.18668290]

>>18667982
it depends. sometimes I feel like eating a smashed burger and sometimes a big juicy one.
they're all good to me

[Anonymous No.18668293]

>>18667982
the best burgers are stuffed with molten cheese, that's how i always make mine
>inverted glazed donut toasted with butter
>bacon
>cheese
>cheese stuffed burger
>cheese
>bacon
>inverted glazed donut toasted with butter

[Anonymous No.18668295]

>>18668267
But how does it taste compared to beef?
It's basically the poorfag option.

[Anonymous No.18668315]

Smash burgers are better if your meat is shitty, but if you actually have some nice quality beef, there's not reason to not go classic steakhouse burger unless you actually hate the taste of beef and just want charred crust.

[Anonymous No.18668353]

>>18668315
Why would you eat your "quality beef" in a burger, slathered with sauce and full of toppings that overpower its flavor?

[Anonymous No.18668357]

Now that I think about it burgers are probably my least favorite way to eat beef

[Anonymous No.18668358]

>>18668293
>donut
If I bite into a burger and it tastes even remotely sweet, I'm committing a war crime.

[Anonymous No.18668380]

>>18668357
what’s your favorite way

[Anonymous No.18668407]

>>18668353
Why do you think it's obligatory to slather a burger with sauce and fill it up with toppings that overpower it's flavour?
>>18668358
That doesn't look like a donut. Do you avoid sweet stuff like ketchup and tomato on your burger?

[Anonymous No.18668412]

>>18668407
>ketchup
>tomato
>sweet
What sort of ass-backwards walmart-loving flyover state are you from?

[Anonymous No.18668415]

>>18668358
What war crime and against who, may I ask?

[Anonymous No.18668421]

>>18668380
*unzips dick*

[Anonymous No.18668428]

>>18667997
A little pink is fine but this is fucked. You shouldnt be able to see the bits of white sinew and fat in your burger.

>>18668315
Idk I've always felt like entire point of a burger was to make good use of less desirable cuts and trimmings. Also getting a burger at a proper sit down restaurant seems like a waste of money.

[Anonymous No.18668435]

>>18668380
Smoked beef ribs

[Anonymous No.18668438]

>>18668428
Usually at restaurants, kids' burgers are the exact same thing as normal ones, just way cheaper. Nobody will stop you from ordering one for yourself.

[Anonymous No.18668439]

>>18667982
>"Smashed" is the superior burger patty
Words of a cooklet.

[Anonymous No.18668441]

Well-done beef will never be superior to anything. You might as well just go to McDonalds at that point.
>>18668044
>>18668113
These are bot posts.

[Anonymous No.18668456]

>>18668412
Ketchup is sweet and tomatoes are at minimum "remotely sweet".

[Anonymous No.18668468]

>>18667997
Bruh that's raw fr no cap ongod son

[Anonymous No.18668620]

>>18668438
I'm a big boy I refuse to eat the babby burger.

[Anonymous No.18668655]

>>18667997
You Americans disgust me with your un-cooked burgers

[Anonymous No.18668664]

>>18667997
jack?

[Anonymous No.18668701]

What I do is make a medium thickness patty and then cut out a piece of baking paper. I then put the baking paper on top of the patty when its in the pan and put a pan or something on top of it to weigh it down a bit. That way I get the texture of a thicker patty with the sear of a smash burger.

[Anonymous No.18668705]

>>18668655
I'm not American.

[Anonymous No.18668752]

>>18668428
>A little pink is fine but this is fucked
You've been brainwashed, I only grill mine at the top and bottom, like it completely raw in the middle.

[Anonymous No.18668782]

>>18668126
In theory you can throw it in boiling water for a bit before grinding, but I assume most burger joints which serve burgers not well done just roll the dice.

[Anonymous No.18668785]

>>18667997
You're eating parasites...

[Anonymous No.18668800]

>>18668752
I don't mind beef tartar, but when it's ground it just gets too slimy for me raw. Needs to be medium at least for me.

[Anonymous No.18668913]

>>18668752
That's gross though. I mean yeah, personal preference and everything... But for 95% of people that's disgusting and you're a freak for preferring it like that.

[Anonymous No.18668929]

>>18667982
>i'm tired of pretending it's not
Joker came out 3 years ago I'm a little tired of this fucking meme, but you don't care.

[Anonymous No.18668934]

>>18668929
Zoomers can't communicate without memes. It takes some getting used to.

[Anonymous No.18668966]

burgers should not be pink, ground meat is full of bacteria and you need to kill it before you eat it. a steak only has bacteria on the outside so you can eat it raw if the outside has touched the frying pan.

[Anonymous No.18668972]

>>18668913
Dumb esl poster

[Anonymous No.18669013]

>>18668966
What country do you live in? Not all countries have so shitty hygiene standards for meat processing that this is a problem.

[Anonymous No.18669044]

>>18669013
Dumb esl poster

[Anonymous No.18669182]

>>18668752
You’re basically eating soft mushy raw meat at that point. How can you find that appealing?

[Anonymous No.18669218]

>>18669182
Well done burger is basically just dried out hard puck. How can you find that appealing?

[Anonymous No.18669269]

>>18668428
>A little pink is fine
Unless you're grinding your own meat or getting meat from a trusted butcher, no amount of pink is fine.

[Anonymous No.18669290]

>>18667982
I prefer smashed but if someone is grilling and making inch think burgers I'm not gonna complain.
if I buy it myself I am definitely smashing that meaty whore into a cast iron pan though

[Anonymous No.18669296]

>>18669218
I use mayo, sauce or melted cheese to lube the burger up and to keep the burger from feeling dry. I also use things like salt, pepper and onion & garlic powder to bring out the flavor of the ground beef during the browning process. Lastly I don’t make the burger patties too thick and instead split it up into two patties if I want more meat on the burger without biting into a dry mess.

The reason why steaks are safe to undercook is because the water inside the meat is preserved and not exposed to air so it makes it more flavorful and safe to eat. Burgers are made out of ground beef so it’s lost a lot of that water in the grinding process, but the melted fat helps make up for that loss of flavor in ground beef.

If someone wanted to have more flavorful meat without a lot of the dryness they would probably use a ground beef with a higher fat content. Usually the best ratio is 80/20.

[Anonymous No.18669391]

>>18668415
A nuke. Tel Aviv.

[Anonymous No.18669405]

>>18669296
>I use mayo, sauce or melted cheese to lube the burger up and to keep the burger from feeling dry.
So you admit well done burgers feel dry unless you use mayo, sauce or melted cheese?
>The reason why steaks are safe to undercook is because the water inside the meat is preserved and not exposed to air so it makes it more flavorful and safe to eat.
Properly matured steak loses water through evaporation, and that makes it more flavourful.
>Burgers are made out of ground beef so it’s lost a lot of that water in the grinding process
It depends on what beef is used. Properly matured beef doesn't lose water when mincing it.

[Anonymous No.18669444]

>>18668236
Mixed minced pork and beef patties make the best burgers if you season them well, IME.

[Anonymous No.18669460]

>>18669405
>So you admit well done burgers feel dry unless you use mayo, sauce or melted cheese?

So you admit to eating your burgers completely plain with just a bun and the patty? Of course ground beef cooked is dryer than a steak.

>Properly matured steak loses water through evaporation, and that makes it more flavourful.

Correct but you trim the outer layers of a dry aged steak before cooking it. Those outer edges of the steak are the most dry due to the evaporation process. Those aren’t the parts you eat.

>It depends on what beef is used. Properly matured beef doesn't lose water when mincing it.

It’s physically impossible to not lose water during the grinding process because you’re breaking down and reforming the meat.

[Anonymous No.18669488]

>>18669460
>So you admit to eating your burgers completely plain with just a bun and the patty?
No
>Correct but you trim the outer layers of a dry aged steak before cooking it. Those outer edges of the steak are the most dry due to the evaporation process. Those aren’t the parts you eat.
Not relevant, the inside loses significant amounts of water still.
>It’s physically impossible to not lose water during the grinding process because you’re breaking down and reforming the meat.
You haven't minced properly aged meat have you? You get mince and it's not watery, you don't get a small dam of water in the bottom of the tray like you often get at the supermarket.

[Anonymous No.18669498]

>>18668441
>Well-done beef will never be superior to anything
Imagine being so reddit, you know no other beef cuts except le epic manly pink steak. Enjoy your blue rare short ribs and beef shanks, I guess

[Anonymous No.18669503]

>>18669498
Smash burgers are probably the most reddit food in existence.

[Anonymous No.18669504]

>>18667982
>Squish out all the delicious grease
No.

[Anonymous No.18669506]

>>18669503
It's only R*ddit once you buy a utensil specifically for smashing burgers.

[Anonymous No.18669516]

>>18669506
>being so pretentious you hate the idea of a job being made easier

[Anonymous No.18669522]

I bet you raw burger eating faggots don't use condoms when you let random strangers rail you up the ass trying to get your neghole pozzed too. Goddamn you sick fucks cook your meat at least somewhat. The day I bite into a burger that is cold in the middle is the day I cook the chef's face well done

[Anonymous No.18669531]

>>18669522
Lol, I never use condoms. I also don't hook up with random strangers, and know how to pull out. Oh yeah, I also don't fuck dudes, but I'd imagine the sensation of kissing another man would be about the same as eating a well done burger.

[Anonymous No.18669541]

>>18669522
Imagine being this mad because someone likes something you don't like.

[Anonymous No.18669555]

>>18669541
Where do you think you are?

[Anonymous No.18669558]

>>18669541
I'm not mad, you're just wrong

[Anonymous No.18669559]

>>18667982
Too dry. I like my burgers juicy.

[Anonymous No.18669564]

>>18667982
the more maillard reaction the more taste. so yeah agreed

[Anonymous No.18669574]

>>18667982
i like smash burgers and regular ones. depends on my mood. if i want to grill outside, i make regular burgers. if i'm feeling lazy and just want to throw some meat in the skillet i make smash burgers. smash burgers come out really well in a cast-iron skillet. you fags will argue over anything kek

[Anonymous No.18669782]

>>18668236
100% iberico pork burgers taste better and much more interesting than regular (non wagyu) beef burgers

[Anonymous No.18669852]

Hear me out:
- smash burger
- layer of steak tartare
- second smash burger

[Anonymous No.18669908]

>>18669852

[Anonymous No.18669935]

>>18669852
At that stage why not just have a single blue patty

[Anonymous No.18670025]

>>18669935
Smash fags pretend like their burgers are better because they have a crusty sear on them, while ignoring the fact that literally any burger can have a good crust on it if cooked properly. That's literally how you make a blue burger. In reality they're just children who think "blood" is icky.

[Anonymous No.18670033]

>>18668655
Sorry our meat doesn't have worms, I guess.

[Anonymous No.18670082]

>>18669935
Smash burgers fry the water out so the meat can brown throughout. I don't believe it would be possible to replicate the triplex burger concept with a single puck of meat.

[Anonymous No.18670101]

>>18667997
When steaks are raw on the inside, it's usually fine because the inside part hasn't been exposed to the elements, but there is no such guarantee with ground beef.

One of the first things we did in microbiology class in college was take a swab of "fresh" ground beef from the grocery store (purchased that day) and cultured it in a petri dish. After a couple days, it was a literal forest of bacteria colonies. We took swabs of various other things, too, including toilets in the public university restrooms, which didn't grow anywhere close to the kind of microflora as the ground beef. You really should NOT treat ground beef like a steak. Cook it thoroughly.

[Anonymous No.18670145]

>>18670082
Here's what I made when having to lose some weight. I think it's pretty clear from the picture that the sear is good.
>>18670101
>One of the first things we did in microbiology class in college was take a swab of "fresh" ground beef from the grocery store (purchased that day) and cultured it in a petri dish. After a couple days, it was a literal forest of bacteria colonies. We took swabs of various other things, too, including toilets in the public university restrooms, which didn't grow anywhere close to the kind of microflora as the ground beef. You really should NOT treat ground beef like a steak. Cook it thoroughly.
Yes, it would be retarded to eat raw minced beef if you let it be in ideal conditions for pathogen growth for a couple of days. This is common sense, isn't it? You don't need fucking science to prove it.

[Anonymous No.18670150]

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>>18670082
Here's what I made when having to lose some weight. I think it's pretty clear from the picture that the sear is good.
>>18670101
>One of the first things we did in microbiology class in college was take a swab of "fresh" ground beef from the grocery store (purchased that day) and cultured it in a petri dish. After a couple days, it was a literal forest of bacteria colonies. We took swabs of various other things, too, including toilets in the public university restrooms, which didn't grow anywhere close to the kind of microflora as the ground beef. You really should NOT treat ground beef like a steak. Cook it thoroughly.
Yes, it would be retarded to eat raw minced beef if you let it be in ideal conditions for pathogen growth for a couple of days. This is common sense.

[Anonymous No.18670154]

>>18670145
>if you let it be in ideal conditions for pathogen growth for a couple of days.
Do you think the ground beef you get from the store is cut from the cow that same day? Use your brain. You need to assume that it is always loaded up with bacteria, and cook it thoroughly to render it safe to eat.

> I think it's pretty clear from the picture that the sear is good.
Sear is irrelevant with burgers.

[Anonymous No.18670160]

>>18670101
>>18670150
The small amounts of pathogens in raw minced beef, that will be there no matter what you do, is fine for a healthy immune system. People eat ass all the time and don't get sick from it.

[Anonymous No.18670170]

>>18670154
Sorry for deleting my post, I really misformulated myself.
>You need to assume that it is always loaded up with bacteria, and cook it thoroughly to render it safe to eat.
Maybe in America, which I understand has really bad meat processing. Here in Europe, most places has very good food safety standards. The minced meat you get at supermarkets have been processed very hygienically, put into an atmosphere that isn't ideal for bacterial growth and kept cold. It's safe.
>Sear is irrelevant with burgers.
Well the argument for smashburgers is good sear.

[Anonymous No.18670174]

>>18670170
>It's safe.
And to be 100% clear, it's safe grown ups with a healthy immune system.

[Anonymous No.18670179]

>>18670101
The chances of actually getting sick from eating a burger is approximately 1 in a million. You could eat a rare burger for every meal for the rest of your life and are unlikely to ever get sick. The reason places like McDonalds cook all their burgers well-done is because they literally sell a few million burgers every day, so statistically speaking people would be getting sick regularly. But people also get struck by lightning every day and that doesn't keep you from going outside, right?

[Anonymous No.18670178]

>>18670160
>The small amounts of pathogens in raw minced beef, that will be there no matter what you do,
No. Were you paying attention? It's NOT there in fresh meat, and it's NOT inside of steak. I already explained this. Please pay attention.
>is fine for a healthy immune system.
If you want to have a healthy immune system, then exercise, eat a balanced diet, and supplement with vitamin D and zinc. Going out of your way to get food-borne pathogens is not doing your immune system any favors.
>People eat ass all the time and don't get sick from it.
The wide range of terminal STDs that only affect gays and other degenerates only would indicate otherwise.

[Anonymous No.18670184]

>>18670170
>The minced meat you get at supermarkets have been processed very hygienically, put into an atmosphere that isn't ideal for bacterial growth and kept cold. It's safe.
And if you are a good boy all year, Santa will give you lots of presents at Christmas!

You couldn't be more wrong. Please educate yourself. Eating raw ground beef is not safe just because you are on the other side of some national border.

[Anonymous No.18670197]

>>18670178
>No. Were you paying attention? It's NOT there in fresh meat, and it's NOT inside of steak. I already explained this. Please pay attention.
Not sure what you mean. I never claimed it to be inside the steak. And it's not there when the animal lives. But it's impossible to butcher meat without introducing any pathogen at all, that's my point.
>If you want to have a healthy immune system, then exercise, eat a balanced diet, and supplement with vitamin D and zinc. Going out of your way to get food-borne pathogens is not doing your immune system any favors.
I'm not eating raw minced beef to improve my immune system, I'm just saying that a healthy immune system can handle the small amount of pathogens in raw minced beef without a problem.
>The wide range of terminal STDs that only affect gays and other degenerates only would indicate otherwise.
You don't get those by eating ass. Lots of heterosexuals eat ass. If I believed smart people went to universities, and it made people smart, I wouldn't believe you went to university.
>>18670179
This, even if it's somewhat pathogenic, it's usually very young children and people with compromised immune systems that get sick.

[Anonymous No.18670198]

>>18670179
>You could eat a rare burger for every meal for the rest of your life and are unlikely to ever get sick.
Why cook it at all? Eat a pound of raw beef right now to prove it's "good for you."

[Anonymous No.18670202]

>>18670197
Holy shit, you are dumb. Enjoy the E. coli. That is NOT fun.

[Anonymous No.18670209]

>>18670198
>why cook it at all?
Because the sear tastes good, dum dum. Eating a pile of raw ground beef is just as retarded as eating a burger that's completely overcooked and nothing but sear (i.e. a smash burger). You want that happy medium of nice crispy outside and juicy, flavorful center. This is how people have always enjoyed eating beef until zoomers came along and replaced common sense with clickbait and memes.

[Anonymous No.18670216]

>>18670184
You seem to be brainwashed with no arguments. Try to educate yourself instead of spout myths. 1/3 Norwegians taste raw mince meat while cooking and we don't have people dying from it, like ever.

[Anonymous No.18670220]

>>18670198
>Why cook it at all? Eat a pound of raw beef right now to prove it's "good for you."
No need to prove anything, it's just delicious.
>>18670202
>Holy shit, you are dumb. Enjoy the E. coli. That is NOT fun.
Only very young children or people with compromised immune systems get sick from E. coli. Educate yourself, retard.

[Anonymous No.18670232]

>>18670220
>Only very young children or people with compromised immune systems get sick from E. coli. Educate yourself, retard.
Well except if there's huge enough amount of it or a really bad strain on something, I don't know the details of it but there's literally E.coli everywhere, on cell phones, on keyboards, door handles etc. and people eat with their hands after touching that stuff without being sick. The small amount of it on properly handled mince meat is not a problem for people with good immune systems.

[Anonymous No.18670289]

>>18670184
Bitch dont talk shit about Santa. You're only saying that because you're on the naughty list.

[Anonymous No.18670579]

I prefer Steamed Hams a la curry

1 Bubba burger patty
1/4 square of S&B curry
a dash of cooking wine

first sear the Bubba burger on both sides.
Then add the cooking wine to the skillet. Put the lid on top of the skillet and let the patty be cooked by the steam.
Add a little water into the skillet and grate in as much S&B (maximum is about a quarter) as it takes to make the sauce to your consistency.
Serve with a side of french fries.
(Optional) sautee some chopped up onions until they caramelize and then sprinkle on top of the burger to taste.

[Anonymous No.18670599]

>dude, just eat the hamburger patty raw, it's GOOD for you!
>BOOST your immune system with bacteria and parasites!
>our superior European bacteria are safe for you!
t.

[Anonymous No.18670618]

>>18670599
lmao never has been me even though I eat raw beef and pork a lot. whenever i cook i salt the meat and try some raw. absolutely delicious. maybe stop being such a fucking bubble boy pussy. bet you were raised on formula and now your immune system is compromised. Never wore a mask and went to conventions at the start of COVID. never got that either.

[Anonymous No.18670638]

>>18667997
No cal burger bro? Taco bell guy?

[Anonymous No.18670681]

>>18668044
raw meat isn’t unsafe but by all means keep believing dumb kike lies.

[Anonymous No.18670847]

It's not even worth arguing with retards.

[Anonymous No.18670920]

>>18667997
>>18668070
>>18668218
You're making me ill with those photos.

[Anonymous No.18670940]

>>18668223
I apologize, I sometimes forget this board is used by non-native English speakers. Please forgive my lack of inclusiveness. "Whistling in the dark" is an English language idiom meaning unaware or ignorant of the danger.

[Anonymous No.18670947]

>>18668218
That's not even undercooked, that's raw, it still has clear unrendered fat

[Anonymous No.18670955]

>>18668468
unbussin

[Anonymous No.18671014]

>>18668218
ja/ck/? is that you?

[Anonymous No.18671021]

>>18669218
>Well done
I eat my burger medium rare, as god intended

[Anonymous No.18671041]

>>18670940
A man walked up to me and said, I'd like to change your mind, by hitting it with a rock, he said. Though I am not unkind

[Anonymous No.18671344]

>>18667997
nigger

[Anonymous No.18671725]

>>18670154
Wait until you find out that the germs just eat straight raw ground pork.

[Anonymous No.18671728]

>>18670940
you coulda just answered the question

[Anonymous No.18671854]

>>18668034
OP
>i like my burgers like this
Anon
>thats cool, i prefer them this way
(You)
>WHAT ARE YOU DOING? DONT YOU KNOW I DONT LIKE THEM THAT WAY? YOU MIGHT AS WELL EAT DOG SHIT IF YOURE GOING TO EAT SOMETHING I DONT LIKE

[Anonymous No.18671872]

>>18668456
Tomatoes are savory

[Anonymous No.18671892]

>>18667997
just make a steak tartar at that point

[Anonymous No.18671896]

>>18668010
fpbp

[Anonymous No.18671961]

>>18671896
>not fp
>arguably not bp
>still post "fpbp"

[Anonymous No.18671975]

>>18671961
it literally is the fourth post, idiot
and i read all the posts and decided that one was the best

[Anonymous No.18672005]

>>18671728
Last night u r mum was pretty salty savoury if you know what I mean

[Anonymous No.18672023]

>>18667982
Based. I spent most of my life loving thick rare burgers but the older I get the more I value the surface area and sear. I'd still happily eat the rare pucks posted in this thread with zero complaints though.

[Anonymous No.18672843]

>>18668153
>Had to look into an obscure incident from last century as an example
The risk of you getting ill from well prepared undercooked ground beef is extremely low. This is akin to not swimming at a beach because you could be the 0.001% of people attacked by a shark.

[Anonymous No.18672885]

>>18668655
raw/undercooked meat is literally a staple of yuro cuisine.

this revulsion towards pink meat comes from early 20th century america where italian/jewish/german immigrants were opening slop shops left and right and the seething coping angloids had to implement bogus "sanitary" laws in order to ban immigrant business

fast forward to the 21st century, yuros are somehow convinced that pink meat is an american thing. you guys are literally so culturally buck broken by america that we've literally stolen your identity and you're repulsed by the image you see in the mirror. sad!

[Anonymous No.18673685]

>>18671725
it isn't raw

[Anonymous No.18673742]

>>18672885
>it's THE JEWS
Holy shit. Why are you fuckers so dumb? No one is saying don't eat raw meat. What people are saying is, be intelligent about which meat you eat raw.

>>18672843
>The risk of you getting ill from well prepared undercooked ground beef is extremely low. This is akin to not swimming at a beach because you could be the 0.001% of people attacked by a shark.
You unintentionally made a good point. The risk of me getting attacked by a shark is very low--not zero, but very low. By the way, I happen to live inland. Now, if I go snorkeling in the ocean, guess what happens to that risk? It goes up. If I go snorkeling over a reef and I chum the water with blood, guess what happens to that risk? It goes up even more.

The "risk of" getting ill from eating a burger is low. But if you don't cook it through, then your risk goes way up. That's why people never serve burgers raw. And with all of the people telling you not to do it, and explaining the reason why not to do it, and with there being a clear lack of a rebuttal, except some empty assertions and indignation about how, "Well, EUROPEAN MINCED BEEF isn't dirty," and if you still insist on eating raw ground beef, and you get sick, predictably, then you will have earned your Darwin award.

[Anonymous No.18673747]

>>18667982
The preference for thicker burger patties may come down to personal taste. Some people may prefer thicker patties because they feel that they provide a better texture and flavor, while others may prefer them because they feel that they are more filling. Additionally, thicker patties may be less likely to dry out or overcook, which can be a concern when grilling burgers. Ultimately, the choice between a thicker or thinner patty will depend on what you like and what you're looking for in a burger.

[Anonymous No.18673757]

>>18670150
>Yes, it would be retarded to eat raw minced beef if you let it be in ideal conditions for pathogen growth for a couple of days. This is common sense.
The dude is telling you that public toilets are cleaner than ground beef purchased from the store the same day and you keep whining about how clean European air couldn't possibly contaminate the food. You will deserve your Darwin award.

[Anonymous No.18673784]

>>18673742
>The "risk of" getting ill from eating a burger is low. But if you don't cook it through, then your risk goes way up. That's why people never serve burgers raw. And with all of the people telling you not to do it, and explaining the reason why not to do it, and with there being a clear lack of a rebuttal, except some empty assertions and indignation about how, "Well, EUROPEAN MINCED BEEF isn't dirty," and if you still insist on eating raw ground beef, and you get sick, predictably, then you will have earned your Darwin award.
Not him but as it has been repeated several times: In properly handled raw ground beef there's practically no chance of getting sick for healthy grown ups with a good immune system. Beef tartare is regularly eaten all over Europe. I can't recommend it for very small children or people with compromised immune systems though.
>>18673757
>The dude is telling you that public toilets are cleaner than ground beef purchased from the store the same day and you keep whining about how clean European air couldn't possibly contaminate the food. You will deserve your Darwin award.
You lack reading comprehension. He did say nothing about the amount of pathogens at the start, but that the pathogens from minced beef multiplied much faster than the ones from a toilet. Again, beef tartar is eaten all over Europe and we never had a problem with it. You can't refute this.

[Anonymous No.18673825]

>>18673784
>beef tartar is eaten all over Europe and we never had a problem with it. You can't refute this.
Why would I even engage with such a dishonest fuck as yourself?

[Anonymous No.18673873]

>>18673825
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steak_tartare
>When the basic hygienic rules are followed and fresh meat is used, the risk of bacterial infection is low.[19]

[Anonymous No.18673911]

>>18667997
Doesn't even look seared and you can just tell the center is cold, stop kidding yourself

[Anonymous No.18673922]

>>18669405
holy cope and deflect

[Anonymous No.18673928]

>>18673873
>When the basic hygienic rules are followed and fresh meat is used
Ground beef for burgers does not meet these criteria.

[Anonymous No.18673969]

>>18673911
Depends on what you call cold. It's more like luke warm.
>>18673928
>Ground beef for burgers does not meet these criteria.
That depends, if the basic hygienic rules are followed and fresh meat is used, then yes it does.

[Anonymous No.18673992]

>>18673969
>>>When the basic hygienic rules are followed and fresh meat is used
>>Ground beef for burgers does not meet these criteria.
>That depends, if the basic hygienic rules are followed and fresh meat is used, then yes it does.

Are all Europeans this dumb? It’s like I’m chatting with an old, 2016-era online chatbot.

[Anonymous No.18674023]

>>18673992
Just mince some beef using the basic hygenic rules and make sure the beef is fresh, and use it for burgers. Then you got minced beef for burgers that meet those criteria. It's not rocket science.

[Anonymous No.18674027]

>>18667997
There is nothing wrong with well done meat in the right contexts. Well done gets a bad rep because of steak memes, you should never cook steak well done but that doesn't mean that rule applies to all other forms of beef.

Also pink ground beef isn't safe. Fucking retard

[Anonymous No.18674038]

>>18667987
Puck plebs dont realise they can smash the burger then fold it back in.

[Anonymous No.18674044]

>>18674027
>Also pink ground beef isn't safe. Fucking retard
Yes it is, as long as it's been handled properly. Educate yourself.

[Anonymous No.18674059]

>>18667982
YWNBAW

[Anonymous No.18674060]

>>18673685
>the heat of the salt cooks the meat

[Anonymous No.18674070]

bros, my third world shithole is getting our first american fast food chain, burger king
Can I get a qrd of the king?

[Anonymous No.18674071]

>>18668070
>>18667997
>>18668705
>>18670150
When did Jack start posting on 4channel?

[Anonymous No.18674118]

>>18668293
>Inverted glazed donut toasted with butter

[Anonymous No.18674166]

>>18667997
Hey man, just popping in to let you know that I'm going to kill you and your whole family for posting that picture. :)

[Anonymous No.18674603]

>>18667997
now youre cooking with jack!

[Anonymous No.18674704]

I hate this stale pasta

[Anonymous No.18674707]

>>18674704
Prove it's pasta

[Anonymous No.18675958]

>>18673992
Take the cut of meat that you are willing to use for steak tartare. Put that through a clean grinder. Make a fucking burger. wa la
>captcha KMS X GG

[Anonymous No.18676030]

>>18667982
People that truly like meat like it rare

[Anonymous No.18676486]

>>18673742
Uhhh people in many countries eat tartare. And plenty of people eat rare/med rare burgers all over. The tasty reward is much higher than the risk once you calculate the ratio.

[Anonymous No.18676493]

>>18673969
Okay sure dont order a rare burger from some shitty hole in the wall fast food restaurant. But grinding your own meat in a sterile environment, or from a high end restaurant carries next to no risk. Do you think U.S. beef is like cursed or something? Its the same thing, it just comes down to knowing who and how its processed.

[Anonymous No.18676495]

>>18676030
I cut a hole in the middle

[Anonymous No.18676519]

>>18670160
>The small amounts of pathogens in raw minced beef, that will be there no matter what you do
>no matter what you do
You can just cook it you fucking retard

[Anonymous No.18676530]

I guarantee all the people in here posting about how raw burgers are fine regularly have diarrhoea and mystery stomach cramps and can't figure out why

[Anonymous No.18676556]

>>18676530
Can’t argue with you there. Had a rare steak dinner Wednesday night and I’ve been clogged up ever since, I’ll be taking a shit and suddenly cough and it makes me drop my guts and the cough makes me forcefully shit and it feels like my asshole rips in two

[Anonymous No.18677811]

>>18672843
Ok let me find some contemporary examples from the 21st century for you. Chipotle E. Coli outbreaks have sickened hundreds, just haven't killed yet. It will happen again.

[Anonymous No.18677898]

>>18674166
I think the burger beat you to it.

[Anonymous No.18678368]

>>18676530
I don’t.
Now what?

[Anonymous No.18678373]

Germans like raw mince, the hamburger was originally German.
Americans prefer well cooked mince, and many prefer the sloppy Joe.

So i can't say that either are invalid, it's just an American vs. German thing.

[Anonymous No.18679012]

>tfw you realise that upon your belief of Christ you will have eternal life and holy holy holy his blood is

[Anonymous No.18679014]

>>18679012
I mean, ETERNAL life sounds like quite a torture, but one must hold on to the end to see the light from one's torturous never-ending existence.

[Anonymous No.18679017]

>>18668055
for me, it's medium
if i had some high quality beef i'd make it a little pinker

[Anonymous No.18679436]

>>18669782
Me at the back.

[Anonymous No.18679481]

>>18670101
Exactly. It's just common sense. I always get perfectly juicy well done burgers. If anyone claims "muh dry hockey pucks" then they can't cook.

[Anonymous No.18679487]

>>18670178
>terminal STDs that only affect gays
name even a single one

[Anonymous No.18679511]

>>18679487
AIDS and monkeypox.
>ooh, but you can also transmit it through needles
No shit, you can do that with pretty much every disease. Doesn't mean that fractured butthole semen disproportionately affects faggots.

[Anonymous No.18679514]

>>18679511
More straight than gay people have aids rn just so you're aware

[Anonymous No.18679527]

>>18679514
There are more substance abusers than rawdogging faggots, yes. But in the beginning it was pretty much just a gay disease.

[Anonymous No.18679580]

>>18679511
>aids only affects gay people
are you retarded

[Anonymous No.18679583]

>>18670178
>only affect gays
>>18679511
>disproportionately affects faggots
Moving the goalposts already? Not a good sign, anon.

[Anonymous No.18679893]

>>18677811
Im looking into that but cant find any source that it was their ground beef. I found one source stating it was a sick employee. Also E Coli can be on countless vegetables that aren't prepared well either. Secondly, I said 'well prepared' not a fast food chain.

[Anonymous No.18679911]

>>18676493
US beef is not cursed. The supply chain is robust. However, many people had to die to make it that way through law and regulation. Always remember that laws and regulations are written in blood. And food safety and industrial processing hygiene are system goals that compete with profits. I would not trust ground beef I bought at the store for tartar but would trust whole muscle meat that I bought and ground myself.

[Anonymous No.18679998]

>>18676519
But then it isn't raw anymore.

[Anonymous No.18680113]

>>18679911
The vast majority of rules and regulations are written preemptively, and oftentimes only exist to raise the barrier of entry.
Do you seriously believe people were dropping dead by the thousands from diseased beef back in the 1870s when cattle were driven a thousand miles throw open wild plains without a single drop of medication?
Companies like WalMart and Ford lobby FOR regulation because they know they can afford to meet them, but any small upstart competitor can’t.

[Anonymous No.18680299]

>>18668160
>dirty meat is best raw
I think it's obvious who the real retard is, champ.

[Anonymous No.18680347]

>>18669908
Well done with the picture but redraw it with Celsius temps please. Chop chop.

[Anonymous No.18680356]

>>18670033
Checked but come on, american meat quality is a laughing stock in the western world.

[Anonymous No.18680374]

>>18670160
>ass eater
LONDON?

[Anonymous No.18680386]

>>18670920
You'll feel better once you suck some more cocks.

[Anonymous No.18680402]

>>18673784
>You lack reading comprehension. He did say nothing
Oh the ironing. My three year old (Italian) son speaks better English than you. Or should I say
>does speak

[Anonymous No.18680413]

>>18667997
americans are so fucking retarded. they will eat pure vomit like "mac and cheese" but then pretend they are masters in french cuisine by eating raw fucking meat because LE MEAT WELL DONE IS FOR LE PUSSIES xD LE EPIC BACON!!!!!!!!!

fuck off, I hate you so much

[Anonymous No.18680426]

>>18679514
Africans/americans (same thing) don't count.

[Anonymous No.18680427]

>>18676530
I literally see the threads on /ck/ every day. It’s always some effeminate (European ass-eater) homosexual who thinks he got a “sore tummy” because the cherries he ate were “too sour” or some other faggotry.

[Anonymous No.18680437]

>euro ass eaters got so buttflustered that they started a new thread to have their tantrum
>>18679635

[Anonymous No.18681046]

Behold, the Hockey Puck of Gastroenteritis.

[Anonymous No.18681049]

>>18667997
hello jack

[sage No.18681058]

>>18680413
that picture is from a british restaurant

[Anonymous No.18681789]

>>18673742
>>it's THE JEWS
anon never said that, dipshit. He actually said the opposite. It was the Eternal Anglo oppressing Jews (among others) for no good reason.

[Anonymous No.18682976]

>>18680427
Cook your food properly and you'll stop having diarrhoea

[Anonymous No.18682989]

>>18681046
Vile.

[Anonymous No.18683105]

>>18668412
retarded underage b8 do better

[Anonymous No.18683115]

>>18668315
How do you get 'quality' beef, it's all made by the same 4 companies.

[Anonymous No.18683128]

"Sneeded" is the superior burger patty and I'm tired of pretending it's not. Why do people make those giant chuck patties?

[Anonymous No.18683159]

>>18681046
If you amerifats love raw minced meat so much why even bother pretending to cook it like this?

[Anonymous No.18683177]

>>18668800
This. Texture is a thing. Trip dubs checked.

[Anonymous No.18683693]

>>18667987
>>18667982
Agreed. I miss getting square, thin patties that stick out just beyond the edges of the bun.

[Anonymous No.18684372]

>>18681046
Thank god that trend is over.

[Anonymous No.18684441]

>>18681046
why does she have to touch every part of the burger like 19 times, im fucken discustarded

[Anonymous No.18684507]

>>18667997
FUCKING. GROSS.

[Anonymous No.18684534]

>>18667997
Fucking disgusting

[Anonymous No.18684630]

>>18671975
>>18671896
fpbp

[Anonymous No.18684846]

>Ctrl + F
>"minced"
>hide all these posts
>the thread suddenly becomes much better
weird