/ctg/ Coffee Time General

[Anonymous No.18544207]

Coffee Time General-Ceremonial Edition

Thread for discussing coffee and coffee-related topics.

If you're new or confused, start here: https://pastebin.com/UEzwuyLz
If you're old and confused, what have you been drinking?

Previous thread:>>18535548

[Anonymous No.18544216]

I feel so retarded for buying that Svart grinder. At least I don't have to use my hands anymore... right?

[Anonymous No.18544238]

>>18544216
how much was it.

[Anonymous No.18544257]

>>18544216
Quoting my default response. I used a kinu for years. "Espresso focused" burr set, yet Matt Winton won the World Brewers cup with it. Its great. The difference between the comandante burr/clones and the italmill burr/clones is going to come down to your personal preference. q2 is the budget filter focused king. People use it for espresso but it'll be a bit more difficult to dial in for espresso than the k3/jx and slower to grind.
>Q2 or up. Don't buy the Normcore. Only on there because someone bought it and bitched until I added it. Don't buy the wacaco, its only there because I bought their towels and they had all the info there to easily copy and paste. Everything else q2 or above is solid, prices varying depending on sales and location.

[Anonymous No.18544265]

>I've been under extracting this whole time

[Anonymous No.18544272]

>be me
>meticulously prepare a v60 with a juicy and floral light roast ethiopian
>coffee is ready
>it's time.jpg
>suddenly, the ground starts to shake
>the heavens open up
>biblically accurate james hoffmann appears in my kitchen
>"you may not drink the coffee. it is not permitted."
>he grabs the cup and splashes the coffee into my face
>"and i hope you have a great day"
>hoff ascends into the heavens, leaving me with second degree burns and no coffee
>i no longer make coffee for fear of angering the hoff lord

[Anonymous No.18544286]

>>18544265
now try over extracting for the same amount of time.

[Anonymous No.18544290]

>>18544272
you know what you did anon.
dont try and act innocent.

[Anonymous No.18544325]

>>18544290
I do not claim innocence for my sins, anon. I just want the punishment to stop.

[Anonymous No.18544331]

>>18544238
What would be close to 170usd in my local currency. Go ahead, laugh at me.

[Anonymous No.18544335]

>>18544331

[Anonymous No.18544336]

>>18544331
We all make mistakes anon. Wish you checked in here first. Not too late to return it?

[Anonymous No.18544340]

>>18544257
The M47 caught my eye from the chart. but dialing it looks intimidating at a glance.

[Anonymous No.18544348]

>>18544336
The return policies where I live are usually something like "un-opened,"... etc.
The house could still use it for their coffee; it still kicks every preground shit they buy. I hate resorting to coping like that.

[Anonymous No.18544349]

Is a commandante better than an encore for all grind sizes?

[Anonymous No.18544373]

>>18544349
Yep. I'd probably just get a kmax instead though. Or the zp6 rerelease if you're only ever going to do filter.
https://1zpresso.coffee/product/zp6-special/
https://youtu.be/dZSay02PWr0

[Anonymous No.18544391]

>>18544340
Its not really that big of a deal. You'll learn what grind range works for any given brew method quickly, you just have to spend 30 seconds going back to zero if you forget what rotation you're on.

[Anonymous No.18544405]

>you shouldn't have coffee after twelve... because... because you just shouldn't, okay?

[Anonymous No.18544415]

>>18544405
You can't have breakfast past 11:30.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hlzm7-gvTRg

[Anonymous No.18544416]

>>18544405
>health blah blah
>stress blah blah
>bad dreams blah blah
dont care every time is goffee time.

[Anonymous No.18544421]

>>18544405
I have one BIG (480ml) cup a day. Too much of a good thing and all that.

[Anonymous No.18544561]

>>18544405
meme invented by lactose intolerant italics who shit the bed if they have anything dairy after 12am

[Anonymous No.18544648]

>>18544405
I'll have you know that I'll have coffee at whatever hour I damn well please.

[Anonymous No.18544662]

is pink bourbon a meme

[Anonymous No.18544682]

>>18544272
You probably overswirled

[Anonymous No.18544683]

>>18544662
depends.

[Anonymous No.18544684]

>>18544662
I had some black honey red bourbon earlier. Shit was great.

[Anonymous No.18544858]

i have a entry-mid tier espresso machine that doesn't extract light-medium roast well enough. Its almost great already and i could taste all the notes but its just a tad sour. Seeing as I cannot control the temperature, and I don't want to soak my basket in hot water or w/e bullshit... would decreasing my dose work?

[Anonymous No.18544866]

>>18544858
what machine

[Anonymous No.18544867]

>>18544866
Breville bambino plus

[Anonymous No.18544870]

>>18544858
grind finer dipshit

[Anonymous No.18544872]

>>18544867
what grinder.
when asking for advice its always helpful to just say what you have upfront.

[Anonymous No.18544875]

inb4 sgp

[Anonymous No.18544887]

>>18544875
The SGP is the only grinder backed by science, chud

[Anonymous No.18544891]

I am sick of drinking bad coffee

[Anonymous No.18544938]

>>18544349
Encore is bare minimum entry level tier anyway, and gets shit on by other cheap-end electric grinders that are barely more expensive like Eureka's Mignon line,

[Anonymous No.18544978]

>>18544349
Hand grinders are a bitch to use

[Anonymous No.18544999]

>>18544978
only if you're a babby

[Anonymous No.18545003]

>>18544999
Strong triples, I kneel

[Anonymous No.18545210]

2 goffs today, no more ;)

[Anonymous No.18545256]

for me, 4 ass pressos and maybe more

[Anonymous No.18545355]

I got this rubbery self folding cup from a marathon race.
I like it, but it smells of rubber. Washing it with soap doesn't fix that.
Anyone have a similar cup and any clue how to fix the rubbery smell?

[Anonymous No.18545391]

>>18545355
Just drink out of a normal glass cup, you fucking autist. I doubt that thing is safe to use with hot beverages

[Anonymous No.18545501]

bout to drink some coffee bros. i wish i had a fresh hot cup for me when i woke but i guess that's life

[Anonymous No.18545504]

>>18545391
>hot coffee
>normal glass cup
Hmm. Can't tell if you're so dumb you think tempered glass is just regular glass, or you're too dumb to know the difference between ceramic and glass.

[Anonymous No.18545555]

>>18544887
Maybe when they update it to the Smart Grinder Plus, they'll give it stepless grind adjustment, just to make the Italian Grinder Mafia spill their spaghetti in gatekeeping rage

[Anonymous No.18545571]

>>18545504
>He's never heard of Pyrex
>Nor has he heard of boiling glass jars to seal them

[Anonymous No.18545577]

>>18545571
>Pyrex
>regular glass
Who the hell is drinking coffee out of a glass jar?

[Anonymous No.18545587]

>>18545577
Me, I used to drink espresso from a Mason Jar

[Anonymous No.18545595]

>>18545587

[Anonymous No.18545597]

>>18545595
And?

[Anonymous No.18545599]

>>18545597

[Anonymous No.18545724]

>>18544870
with espresso - especially with a flat 9bar machine - there's a point at which grinding finer will just channel and you'll still under extract.

>>18544858
If you're already in the 25-30 second range, 3 options:
>Increase yield and keep dose sams
>Lower dose & keep yield same
>increase temperature if possible

[Anonymous No.18545813]

>overfill mug with pourover
>move some joe to teacup
>the teacup coffee tastes better
wtf is going on here, this isn't right

[Anonymous No.18545814]

>>18545813
moving it to the teacup cooled it down by about 10 degrees celsius which changes the taste profile

[Anonymous No.18545815]

>>18545814
this. coffee tastes pretty shitty when it's too hot

[Anonymous No.18545876]

>>18544207
why does coffee made at home make me sleepy compared to a cafe coffee which perks me up, i literally can't stop yawning

[Anonymous No.18545882]

>>18545876
Cafe coffee is spiked with redbull

[Anonymous No.18545891]

>>18545882
i think i'd notice the notes of piss in my coffee but maybe im giving myself too much credit

[Anonymous No.18545944]

>>18545876
how do you make your coffee at home
that will probably answer the question

[Anonymous No.18545948]

>>18545944
mostly with a v60 but i recently ran out of papers so i went back to a moka pot, about 18g of coffee which i dilute down into 2 300ml cups of coffee with milk

[Anonymous No.18545995]

>>18545391
>>18545504
>>18545571
>>18545577
>>18545587
>>18545595
>>18545597
>>18545599
Okay, thats a very cool discussion, but its also a very not what I asked discussion.
I could use a foldable coffee cup like that, since I do go hiking, fishing, etc. And it says on it its food safe plastic, so I imagine its good for hot liquids.
The issue is entirely the smell. Has nobody really used such a cup before?

[Anonymous No.18546022]

>>18545995
Enamel cups are good for hiking and outdoors. I'm of the vain of trying to minimize the amount plastic containers I use since there shit for you and the environment.

[Anonymous No.18546166]

>>18545948
>moka pot
italian
>watering it down
americano
>italian-americano
nigga be drinking Wops

[Anonymous No.18546208]

>>18546166
made me audibly exhale from my nose

[Anonymous No.18546248]

my roaster (very hipstery place but their coffee is excellent) is trying to shill specialty "Canephora" (Robusta). Something something environment, climate change, open mind, complexity, bias towards arabica... I bought a bag with the tasting notes "sage, oolong and molasses" and it primarily just tastes like bad Instant coffee, no matter the brewing parameters.

[Anonymous No.18546259]

>>18546248
>Something something environment, climate change, open mind
in the bin it goes

[Anonymous No.18546400]

immersion brews until i die

[Anonymous No.18546411]

Is it worth buying specialty coffee beans if you're just making with an aeropress/french press and not making espresso? It's more than double the price of the beans you can pick up at the supermarket.

[Anonymous No.18546412]

h-hoffeebros...

[Anonymous No.18546417]

>>18546411
yes

[Anonymous No.18546469]

>>18546411
Its worth you buying a bag and figuring that out for yourself.

[Anonymous No.18546498]

>>18546411
Yes.

[Anonymous No.18546645]

>>18546400
For me it's paper-filtered immersion brews in a pour-over setup, like those made in the incredible brewer known colloquially as the Hario Switch.

[Anonymous No.18546675]

>>18546248
>robusta
Just say no

[Anonymous No.18546682]

>>18546411
If you have a sufficiently good grinder, you can taste the difference with every brewing method where you control the temperature and flow rate.

As long as you have a passable burr grinder and you aren't using a Mr. Coffee or shitty espresso machine, you will absolutely notice a difference.

[Anonymous No.18546708]

as for me?

it's melitta classic pre-ground.

[Anonymous No.18546840]

>>18546645
this but aeropress

[Anonymous No.18546902]

>>18546840
With papers I've been reusing since 2018.

[Anonymous No.18547259]

v8, now with k-ultra support and more subjective takes. Want something else added? Post the info. I'll try to get pictures of the burrs in one of these revisions.

[Anonymous No.18547297]

>>18546248
>specialty robusta
lmao what crooks

[Anonymous No.18547321]

>>18547259
Wow. That K-ultra looks retarded as shit. An uglier body design and a gimmicky folding handle nobody asked for? Cool. More shit to break that makes grinding worse.

[Anonymous No.18547340]

>>18547321
This is what happens when chinese companies are forced to "innovate". $50 sidegrade with 2 micron smaller steps. I can't wait until they stick that handle on all the kingrinders and they go up by $30.
>Serve us with a cease and desist over plagarized design? We'll show you a fucking unique design.

[Anonymous No.18547353]

>>18547321
Fucking kek
>Finally! We have developed a grinder that can go flaccid!

[Anonymous No.18547366]

>>18547353
A trans grinder, how inclusive!

[Anonymous No.18547368]

>>18547353
>But the savings!
>Yeah, like 2 inches.

[Anonymous No.18547397]

Svart regretful buyer here. I went back to my Hario hand grinder, and I can't believe I'm getting a better cup of coffee. I even brewed side by side today just to make sure I'm not deluding myself...

[Anonymous No.18547404]

>>18547397
I literally don't believe you and you're deluding yourself.

[Anonymous No.18547408]

>>18547404
What do you mean?

[Anonymous No.18547428]

>>18547397
idiot

[Anonymous No.18547434]

https://youtu.be/aChUZZOp654?t=218

[Anonymous No.18547435]

>>18547428
I'm new here. Wish I came here before. Although everyone's an asshole, but who isn't?

[Anonymous No.18547437]

The Wilfa is a solid grinder for the money you just haven't dialed your shit in properly if you can't produce something better than with a fucking Hario grinder

[Anonymous No.18547453]

>>18547437
Dude, I hope you're right. Considering how much I paid for it, I'm not giving up just yet. I gave it a nice clean yesterday. I'll try again tomorrow and go WAY finer just to see what happens.

[Anonymous No.18547476]

>>18547397
stop listening to the schizos. take the time to learn how to brew with your setup

[Anonymous No.18547484]

>>18547476
I will, thanks. I just looked up some blogs about dialing it. I'll give it a try now and report back with my findings.

[Anonymous No.18547489]

>>18547484
I've heard that holding it down while it grinds is a good idea because the rumbling of the thing can shift the dial.

[Anonymous No.18547491]

>>18547437
Its a shitty cone running at high rpm with massive steps. Its really not surprising. The more expensive black one runs slower at 450rpm.
>5 grind settings with 32 steps in between.

[Anonymous No.18547494]

>>18547489
It doesn't happen in mine.

[Anonymous No.18547502]

>>18547494
Do you have the stronger one (black colored, not metal)? Maybe that one doesn't shift.

[Anonymous No.18547518]

>>18547502
It doesn't shift. But I'll hold it down just to see if anything changes.

[Anonymous No.18547523]

>>18547518
You could also try the retard boomer trick to get better filter out of the niche.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kwZXuLFkWVE

[Anonymous No.18547572]

>>18547523
I might try this some other day.
Now I just finished brewing again. Here are my findings: The Svart cup now tastes similar to the Hario hand grinder, I'm actually SHOCKED!
I dial it like >>18547518, as well as hold the hopper down. It was shaking just a bit, so maybe it affected the grind before.
Now I just need it to cool down to room temp and keep tasting back and forth to make sure it actually worked.
Thanks again, anon.

[Anonymous No.18547590]

RIP Aaron Carter that little nigger got me through some tough times I remember when we went to the cafe together god damn got me hooked bitch got me fucked up nigga.

[Anonymous No.18547595]

>spend hundreds on a v60 l from amazon
>have wait a week before it finally gets here
>try it out
>worse than my chemex I already had
????? Fucking tards

[Anonymous No.18547596]

>>18547595
>spend hundreds on a v60
Huh?

[Anonymous No.18547607]

>>18547596
Got one of the limited edition designs probably.

[Anonymous No.18547612]

>>18547590
Perhaps, in the end, he didn't actually like candy.

[Anonymous No.18547625]

>>18547596
he got lucky, i'm still paying off my v60 mortgage

[Anonymous No.18547637]

>>18547625

[Anonymous No.18547657]

Have you guys tried these: https://sibarist.coffee/product/cone-m/
On a regular V60?
I'm also interested in the Switch
https://youtu.be/QjIvN8mlK9Y
I'm being influenced big time today.

[Anonymous No.18547727]

>>18547657
equipment power rankings (in order of how much they matter):
filter:
grinder >>>>>>>>>>>>scale>>>>> brewing device>filter>>>kettle

espresso:
grinder>>machine>>>>scale>>>basket>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>tamper

[Anonymous No.18547730]

>>18547727
What do the arrows mean?

[Anonymous No.18547733]

>>18547730
Exaggerating how much it matters more than the one next to it.

[Anonymous No.18547738]

>>18547727
So have you tried it, or nah?

[Anonymous No.18547759]

So I weigh my coffee using a cheap micro scale. And use an inexpensive digital kitchen scale for brewing.
It's accurate for the price—better than the fancy scales that would cost five times more.

[Anonymous No.18547789]

>>18547657
I've got a switch. Its pretty cool. I'll brew a cup of with it right now. Sibarist filters are always out of stock when I'm ordering dumb shit.

[Anonymous No.18547958]

>>18547789
Well? Did you brew?

[Anonymous No.18547995]

>>18547727
grinder>>machine>>>>scale>>>basket>>>>>>>>>>>wdt>>>>>>>>tamper

[Anonymous No.18548015]

>>18547397
Retard alert. Those Hario grinders are on par with a blade grinder.

[Anonymous No.18548025]

>>18547958
Yes. It was bretty gud.

[Anonymous No.18548027]

>>18544272
>hario skerton at 42 buckaroos
Hoffmeme and it's consequenses has been a DISASTER for the home brewer
Also
>just let the cowfee sit in the french press for 20 minutes
Isn't it gonna overextract?

[Anonymous No.18548042]

>>18547727
Nah

Retarded way of displaying it. For instance:

Does my brew device make more of a difference than my scale if I am going from a french press to a chemex, and a lunar vs an AWS 2kg scale? Of course not. How about a v60 vs a kalita and a Hario brew scale vs a pearl? Brew device again. Actually, most scales used in coffee brewing are a lot more similar in their functionality than most brewing devices. I bet kettle type matters more than scale. Going from no scale to scale is large, of course. But for pour over, I'd wager a shitty kitchen scale with 1g resolution vs a pearl would produce less difference in the cup than changing filters on a v60.

And for espresso you're just wrong. Basket and tamper matter way more than what scale you use - assuming you use scales meant for coffee. Going from a single basket that came stock with your machine to a vst basket will be night and day. Going from a domed tamper that's 58mm to a 58.4 flat tamper will likewise be a larger difference than a 5 dollar drug scale from AliExpress vs a lunar.

Maybe I'm biased from making 10s of thousands (probably hundreds of thousands) of espressos.

[Anonymous No.18548069]

How do I make mocha at home?

[Anonymous No.18548082]

>>18548069
Budget? Autism Powerlevel?

[Anonymous No.18548087]

>mfw i overextracted the goffee

[Anonymous No.18548144]

>>18548069
I have my parents' espresso machine, powdered sugar and Nesquik powder.

[Anonymous No.18548148]

>>18548144
Meant for >>18548082

[Anonymous No.18548156]

>>18548144
Godspeed anon. Post pics of the process.

[Anonymous No.18548164]

>>18547259
rok grinder :)

[Anonymous No.18548170]

>>18547397
>Svart
more like SHART

[Anonymous No.18548182]

>>18547408
he's and empath just trust him(i dont believe him either but thats because im also an empath)

[Anonymous No.18548200]

>fell for the nespresso meme
This shit sucks $550 down the drain

[Anonymous No.18548202]

>>18547995
uhh your anti static spray bottle anon?

[Anonymous No.18548204]

>>18548025
wug2 chad i-i kneel...

[Anonymous No.18548216]

>>18548200
dw anon im sure some other retard will buy it for $500

[Anonymous No.18548230]

>>18548204
It was so good I made another. Minute quicker on the drawdown. Little thin but the flavor is nuts. Like green apple cider. Now I'm stoned and coofed out of my mind playing ddr at midnight. Life's good.

[Anonymous No.18548251]

>>18548200
Nespresso "machines" actually cost $550? I was under the impression this entire time that they cost the same a a Keurig or something. That's fucking hilarious.

[Anonymous No.18548252]

>>18548230
>bug shit
>goffee gup on laptop
i take it back

[Anonymous No.18548273]

>>18548251
For that price there's many other single serve machines that let you use your own fresh grounds

[Anonymous No.18548277]

>>18548042
Interestingly, I used to use an 18g VST basket in my older espresso machine and recently upgraded to a Breville Dual Boiler, so put the basket straight in and compared it to the stock one and found I preferred the stock basket in terms of ease of dialling in as well as the output. Thought perhaps my VST basket was worn out so bought a new one and I still prefer the Breville one, to surprise.

[Anonymous No.18548278]

>>18548252
Acquired taste from getting blackout at Dave and busters. Shit laptop I don't mind breaking if the anime girls piss me off.
https://youtu.be/NNs-1S_xY-I

[Anonymous No.18548280]

>>18548202
I mean, I personally think it doesn't make my coffee better, it just helps keep my bench tidier and saves me a little coffee in less retention. So I wouldn't put it in a spectrum of "shit what improves things"

[Anonymous No.18548289]

>>18548280
i actually think it does improve the goffee.

[Anonymous No.18548291]

>>18548289
Cool, maybe I should play around with using and not using and see if I can see a difference - how does it improve yours?

[Anonymous No.18548311]

>>18545724
I mentioned decrease dose because Hoffman mentioned about work it takes to extract stuff, but increasing yield fixed the problem. I grinded slightly coarser because flow rate was already choking, then I increased yield and don’t notice the sourness anymore. Though it’s no longer the syrupy and feels thinner like a lungo at ~1:3. taste delicious though.

[Anonymous No.18548322]

>>18548291
probably placebo.
but i think it makes my beans and grounds smell better which i guess improves my mood when making coffee.
didnt hoffmann say it made his coffee better?
i will have to rewatch that video.
ok he says if you spray the puck it increases back pressure which increases extraction or whatever.
but yeh for me using a drop of water makes my beans/grind smell noticeably more/better.
im not going to test not using it because its just going to create a fucking annoying mess and i dont care that much.

[Anonymous No.18548327]

>>18548322
Don't go testing but if it improves your enjoyment that's absolutely a plus

[Anonymous No.18548352]

>>18548322
It makes your fines stick to coffee, not your grinder. Keeps output consistent. So having more surface area via finer coffer overall exposes more to the air etc etc. Not necessarily placebo, you just might have a real keen sense of smell.

[Anonymous No.18548422]

>>18548352
i have very good sense of smell
its very annoying actually because i hate a ton of smells, just cant stand them so when i complain and other people cant smell it i look crazy.
sometimes i have more fun smelling the grounds/beans than i do drinking the coffee.

[Anonymous No.18548514]

>>18548422
Do you do the thing where sometimes you just open the refrigerator and open something just to smell it because you enjoy the aroma of something truly great and it's better than someone licking your shaft? I do.

[Anonymous No.18548529]

>>18548273
You can buy an entry level real espresso machine for $550

[Anonymous No.18548571]

are unbleached filters actually bad or is it just placebo

[Anonymous No.18548573]

>>18548571
I like to know my coffee has been BLEACHED

[Anonymous No.18548586]

>>18548571
I think unbleached papers must have used to taste bad. I can't taste the difference. I think it's a boomer era stigma. I have objectively confirmed this with blind tests on boomers. Maybe there are shitty brown paper filter out there that taste bad. I haven't found them. I have found a couple bleached papers over the years that tasted like bleach, oddly enough.

[Anonymous No.18548596]

>>18548514
no.
but i do open every place where food is stored in my kitchen and try to smell if something is off/expired/mold
some shit can be at the back of the fridge for weeks before the smell gets to the front of the fridge.
im pretty anal about keeping things clean because even a little smell can ruin my life until i fix it.

[Anonymous No.18548813]

>>18548200
Svart guy here. You made me feel so good about myself just now.

[Anonymous No.18548823]

>>18548813

[Anonymous No.18548855]

>make a cup of coffee yesterday
>pretty good but a bit bitter
>grind coarser today
>coffee is way more bitter than it was yesterday

[Anonymous No.18548868]

>>18548855
grind finer :)

[Anonymous No.18548880]

>>18548868
I will. Coffee extraction theory is bullshit

[Anonymous No.18548914]

>>18548880
eh?

[Anonymous No.18548921]

>>18548914
>bitterness is a sign of overextraction
>grinding coarser will make it extract less and give you a less bitter cup
>JK, it actually gives you a more bitter one lol
No one knows shit about what makes coffee taste like it does, everyone is just trying random shit, getting lucky and then making up rules about why it happened. It's like physics.

[Anonymous No.18548947]

>>18548921
there is like an infinite amount of variables in even 1 specific kind of coffee brewing you expect something as simple as
>bitterness is a sign of overextraction
>grinding coarser will make it extract less and give you a less bitter cup
to be 100% accurate in all cases.

how about listing equipment used as a first step.

[Anonymous No.18548951]

>>18548947
K6 and an aeropress

[Anonymous No.18548963]

look at him aeropresso

[Anonymous No.18548973]

I've successfully traumatized myself into switching to tea after drinking absolutely disgusting pour-overs each morning out of desperation and laziness

[Anonymous No.18549004]

>>18548951
i dont make espresso or espresso like drinks so i cant help you sorry.
there are a few aeropress fans here. not sure if they are online right now

[Anonymous No.18549070]

Alright, so I've been shilled into picking up some Sumatra (pic related), what am I in for? :D

[Anonymous No.18549147]

https://youtu.be/q4Ajom97JsA?t=6

[Anonymous No.18549183]

>>18546411
Yes dumbfuck
>>18549004
>>18548963
>>18548951
>>18546840
AEROPRESS FUCKING GANG!
We Fuck Hard!

[Anonymous No.18549326]

I want to start fucking with japanese-inspired pour over. Chemex or Hario? I mostly would just like to make one cup at a time I think, max two. It would probably be better to get a solution that can make 2-3 cups so I can prepare for company.

[Anonymous No.18549329]

>>18549326
Hario

[Anonymous No.18549332]

>>18549329
which one specifically? can i use french brown paper filters I already have or do i need hario filters?

[Anonymous No.18549339]

>>18548921
I'm more convinced that we don't understand our own senses very well. I error that most fouled up brews are astringent sourness and that generating offensive bitterness is harder to do. I've been speculating that bitterness is actually a desirable and poorly understood aspect of taste having a role in umami and creating a lot of our well known flavor profiles like chocolate, coffee, bread, maillard, legumes.

[Anonymous No.18549345]

>>18549326
hario v60

[Anonymous No.18549347]

>>18549332
A v60 and yes you need different filter papers for it

[Anonymous No.18549352]

>>18549347
>>18549345
thanks friendos. i can probably start figuring out the rest i just wanted to get a good starting point

the thing that made me do it after years of thinking about it was the animation autism in the beginning of chainsaw man episode 4

[Anonymous No.18549459]

>>18544207
My only bean grinder broke, stuck settling with prepacked Keurig coffee atm :(
>Tfw no egg coffee

[Anonymous No.18549462]

>>18544207
I am tempted to soak beans in vodka before roasting, talk me out of it

[Anonymous No.18549461]

>>18549459
you dont have grocery stores?

[Anonymous No.18549472]

>>18545577
I drink black iced coffee from a mason jar

[Anonymous No.18549482]

>>18549462
Why would I do that? Sounds like a great series of posts.

[Anonymous No.18549498]

>>18549462
Do it you pussy. Better yet, do multiple small batches with different types of booze

[Anonymous No.18549501]

fuck aeropress gang they kidnapped my family and brewed their remains as coffee

[Anonymous No.18549503]

>>18544207
has anyone used an espresso machine with matcha powder?

[Anonymous No.18549512]

>>18549462
I have some chocolate porter, some strong beer, some sweet wine, and some decent vodka. If I can find some good beans, I'll see what I can do. Any recommendations on brew method after roasting? I'll probably roast them blonde if anything.

[Anonymous No.18549516]

>>18549512
Meant for
>>18549482
>>18549498
I'm retarded

[Anonymous No.18549524]

>>18549512
I made a fantastic vodka espresso martini a few weeks ago. Go all in. Roast the vodka beans, use the vodka beans to infuse coffee vodka and pull some shots.

[Anonymous No.18549527]

>>18549501
STOP RESISTING
JOIN THE GANG

[Anonymous No.18549536]

>>18549512
If you can get your hands on some cheap rum or whiskey that might be interesting.
As for brewing, do whatever you use most often so you have a good base for comparison.

[Anonymous No.18549544]

>>18549536
My experience is limited to French press and direct pour over, I don't have any equipment to make espresso. Sometimes I grind the beans with a mortar and pestle when the grinder goes to shit.

[Anonymous No.18549548]

>>18549503
dont do that.

[Anonymous No.18549564]

i'm going to get hand surgery so all of my fun coffee tools won't be available to me for at least six weeks
is there /ctg/ approved instant coffee or should i just cope with caffeine pills

[Anonymous No.18549569]

>>18549548
but why?

[Anonymous No.18549582]

>>18549564
Just make some tea

[Anonymous No.18549585]

>>18549569
fine go do it and post pics or video.

[Anonymous No.18549622]

>>18548027
I don't know about this hoffmeme character but I used to make french press coffee every day and as long as I was using good coffee to begin with, it would just get better the longer it sat in the press

[Anonymous No.18549658]

>>18549622
so you just have shit taste
overextracted coffee is a thing

[Anonymous No.18549732]

>>18549070
Oh God.

[Anonymous No.18549764]

>>18549564
i think i'm just gonna slum it up with a mr coffee and cheap preground beans for awhile. at the very least when i can go back to my cohee toys i'll appreciate them more

[Anonymous No.18549775]

>>18549564
>i'm going to get hand surgery
Lol, fuckin retard

[Anonymous No.18549785]

>>18549775
take care of your hands anon. do it for the /ctg/ Coffee Time General.

[Anonymous No.18549795]

What's the go-to pour over kettle with no plastic components inside?

[Anonymous No.18549806]

>>18549795
Stagg or brewista are the popular ones.

[Anonymous No.18549809]

>>18549806
so expensive :(

even stovetop ones are like 50 bucks on amazon which i can't quite rationalize. it's really recommended to get digital anyway though right...for small adjustments in temp

[Anonymous No.18549833]

>>18549809
$22 little man. Just keep in mind to replace it with something nicer before the health risks pile up. Generally not a good sign when they won't tell you what steel they're actually using, but its cheap.
https://www.amazon.com/Uno-Casa-Gooseneck-Kettle-Stove/dp/B08BZMF6HK/

[Anonymous No.18549842]

>>18549833
yeah don't buy stuff like that. unacceptable. probably full of lead and cadmium and shit

its too hard to find quality goods these days. a $40 american-made steel kettle should exist

[Anonymous No.18549871]

what is the most abundant, and best priced per unit type of disposable coffee cup i can get for daily coffee drinking?

i prefer a 12oz cup usually, and i'm talking hot coffee so something that is meant for hot drinks, it doesn't need to have expensive insulation technology though

[Anonymous No.18549876]

>>18549842
You can't get dinner delivered for $40 these days. You want an american company with manufacturing overhead, freight, wages, and health and liability insurance for their staff of full time employees to foot the bill for you to have a 316L stainless kettle at a reasonable cost? Welcome to the new normal pal. You either bite the bullet or use it to shoot yourself in the foot in a few years. Hario sells a nip made one for $40 if you trust them any more. Brewista and Stagg are both chinese made, but the stagg is the only one that actually tells you the steel(301 18/8).

[Anonymous No.18549902]

>>18549876
Oh the electric stagg is actually 304.

[Anonymous No.18549908]

pouring kettles are a meme, no need for that unless you have parkinson's

[Anonymous No.18549946]

>>18549908
https://www.richmondkettlecompany.com/our-collection/richmond-heritage-no-3/

[Anonymous No.18550051]

>>18548042
what i meant by my ordering:
- grinder is most important, then the machine
- scale allows you to accurately pull shots, stopping at weight instead of volume.
- basket indeed makes a huge difference, but you can change recipes around your basket
- tamper only matters insofar as it's flat and fits your basket and you tamp level and hard enough to compress the coffee

[Anonymous No.18550115]

How the fuck do you mess up both your hands? Fucking buffoons of /ctg/ I swear.

[Anonymous No.18550214]

>>18547518
This is a rebranded version of a discontinued old Breville model

[Anonymous No.18550220]

>>18549070
>Walmart beans
Those are probably genetically modified beans

[Anonymous No.18550243]

God damn it fuck now I want a sworks basket.

[Anonymous No.18550246]

>>18550220
everything is genetically modified.

[Anonymous No.18550251]

>>18550246
This isn't true.

[Anonymous No.18550274]

>>18550251
>he thinks if he makes an apple farm with organic apple seeds off the grid its not gmo
fucking moron.
do you think its only gmo if it comes from a lab?

[Anonymous No.18550298]

>>18550274
By the modern definition, yes. Corporate agriculture has used the term GMO for years to refer exclusively to lab-developed strains and hybrids unrelated to hand-pollination or grafting

[Anonymous No.18550347]

>>18550298
wrong.
you can genetically modify plants without any scientific equipment at all i dont give a fuck about "modern definition" or who uses what term.

[Anonymous No.18550350]

look at them gmo.

[Anonymous No.18550355]

Genetically modify my dick, you queer.

[Anonymous No.18550391]

>>18549070
based taste

[Anonymous No.18550530]

>>18548025
App? Looks like beanconqueror

[Anonymous No.18550575]

Is the Breville Precision Brewer a meme? I mostly do a single serving of moka pot nowadays but I'm feeling wistful for the days I used to do terrible drip coffee from a machine and share it with the entire family.
Would a machine like that deliver the experience of automatically making a full batch of coffee I can share while actually being good at it?

[Anonymous No.18550587]

>Wanted a Wilfa Uniform, but there was absolutely no way I was going to pay >£300 for one
>Write to wilfa customer support and ask if they'll sell me a factory second
>the respond the next day and say they will
>£158 instead

God I am such a winner

[Anonymous No.18550613]

>>18550575
You want an add on for the dripper iirc but it should be pretty good for the price range

[Anonymous No.18550619]

>>18550587
That's nice of them

[Anonymous No.18550665]

>>18550619
Yeah I think so too. They didn't have to do that for me

[Anonymous No.18550684]

>>18550613
What add on?

[Anonymous No.18550698]

>>18550684
Sorry bro but never had any interest in those kind of machines so all I remember is a replacement shower head being a good upgrade for them from previous discussions. Look through the archive

[Anonymous No.18550744]

>>18550530
Ye.

[Anonymous No.18550805]

>>18549764
Gl on the hand.
Even Folgers packets make me think of my senpai so I will never hate it. But Maxwell House and instant make me shake with anger.

[Anonymous No.18550821]

>>18550243
Etching isn't too hard anon. Those look sweet though.

[Anonymous No.18550935]

>>18548277
Less even hole size and distribution will lead to less even extractions. Which will be more "forgiving" in the same way that a Niche is more forgiving than an ek43. Your extraction ceiling will be lower, but the sweet spot is wider.

[Anonymous No.18550936]

>>18550243
>>18550935
i have an 18g decent basket - would be interested to try one of these. i assume it'd be much more affordable vs buying a weber portafilter

[Anonymous No.18550950]

>>18550936
>be much more affordable vs buying a weber portafilter
Thats the draw. I use pullman stuff but I'll def pick one of them up later. He also just sold out of a puck filter. I might have snagged it if I didn't have 4 on the way from aliexpress for $11.
https://www.instagram.com/p/CkJch0mvPA_/

[Anonymous No.18550952]

>>18550587
WTF companies can act like humans sometimes? Holy shit!

[Anonymous No.18550953]

>>18550805
thanks fren. i have bad memories associated with maxwell house funny enough.

[Anonymous No.18551037]

So which of those Cafec filters is best for V60? Abaca? Support Forest? Traditional? Something else?

[Anonymous No.18551173]

>>18551037
Depends on the coffee. They all have different flows. I'd start with mediums or abaca. Traditionals are the old Hario tabless back when they were good.

[Anonymous No.18551192]

Svart guy here. Day 2 of dialing tests:
Set the dial on the first "r" of Aeropress letters, sprayed my beans, and held the hopper while it was grinding, and the brew came out very nice. It could be sweeter; however, further testing is required.

[Anonymous No.18551363]

>>18551192
>dial on the first "r"
It'll never not be funny.

[Anonymous No.18551383]

>>18551363
I see what you did there.

[Anonymous No.18551395]

This coffee has been one of my favorites. It's sweet with no acidity. What are some interesting coffees you've had, anons?

[Anonymous No.18551418]

>>18551395
Had an lb of this a couple weeks ago. First costa rican I've tried. Fucking nuts. Can't wait for the spring crops.
https://thecaptainscoffee.com/products/costa-rica-finca-la-bella-bourbon-natural?variant=40067906699353

[Anonymous No.18551431]

>>18551418
This looks very fragrant.

[Anonymous No.18551503]

effort wise, what is one step up from a drip coffee maker. I stopped drinking coffee and switched to tea because the fact it's just slightly warm water that hasn't been boiled dripping over grounds is unappealing to me and it tastes so low quality whenever I make it. what's the next step of effort I can put in to make it better

[Anonymous No.18551507]

new classic pro today

[Anonymous No.18551512]

>>18549326
what the fuck is "japanese-inspired pour over"? this shit sounds like an unironic place, Japan meme

[Anonymous No.18551519]

>>18551418
>Giving coffee stats like if they were D&D characters
Kind of dig it

[Anonymous No.18551527]

>>18551512
>grinder with japanese steel
>beans are ground over 1000 times
>water, no, MIZU imported from some bumfuck japanese village flown over via All Nippon Airways
>brewed with a tetsubin over binchotan
>poured into a kintsugi mug
>yells ITADAKIMASU between every sip (this is very important)

[Anonymous No.18551619]

>>18551512
Hario v60 probably. Whenever anime shows someone making coffee it's that, since Hario is a japanese company.

[Anonymous No.18551623]

>>18551619
actually neat how he preheated the filter

[Anonymous No.18551677]

>>18551623
Shut up

[Anonymous No.18551715]

>>18551619
japan invented v60?

[Anonymous No.18551732]

>>18551715
Hario, a japanese company, did invent the V60.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brewed_coffee#Hario_V60

[Anonymous No.18551780]

>>18551732
>i've been doing weeb shit coffee this whole time
NOOOOO

[Anonymous No.18551784]

>>18551780
>he didn't get the starter kit that comes with the server with japanese on it

[Anonymous No.18552022]

>>18551395
another natural process burundi enjoyer

[Anonymous No.18552024]

>Want a gaggia so I can mod it
>Quite close to actually retarded when it comes to 'modding' things.
Guess I'm sticking with my Flare

[Anonymous No.18552034]

>>18551784
Why would you get a server when you can just brew it in the cup

[Anonymous No.18552057]

>>18552034
I pity you

[Anonymous No.18552063]

>>18551503
if you dont want to buy a whole new coffee maker i would probably say specialty coffee.
for some basic drip probably dark roast because those things just burn the coffee anyway.
or if you do want to buy a new thing but not really put any more effort in you could get an automatic pour over machine and again use specialty coffee, i also assume you are using some pre ground dogshit right now so pre ground specialty will still be better.
here watch these and see which one appeals to you the most.
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HfkdkZRv6Mc
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t8eYs2vxT-8
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kN5HGoMR9c8

[Anonymous No.18552113]

>>18551503
Get a electric burr grinder, grinding beans just before brew is infinitely better. then try better beans.

[Anonymous No.18552126]

>>18552034
you can make up to like 700ml of coffee with it

[Anonymous No.18552152]

>>18552063
I am looking for something like a new machine. Pour over looks like what I'm lookin for, I don't necessarily need it automatic like I said I'm looking for something more effort

[Anonymous No.18552160]

>>18552152
oh then just get a v60 and choose a grinder from this list >>18544257

[Anonymous No.18552251]

>If he doesn't' attempt to convert someone to stale, moldy medium Sumatra, he will have an aneurysm and die

[Anonymous No.18552271]

So how the fuck do I use this thing? Just put ground coffee on bottom, add water and let it sit?

[Anonymous No.18552276]

Have you ever had a good (Dark Roast)? I tried everything new I could get my hands on. Most dark roasts taste the same (coffee flavoured coffee) and are just meh, except for one I got which was Sumatra. It actually tasted molasses-y, quite pleasant.

[Anonymous No.18552278]

>>18552271
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=st571DYYTR8
always trust the hoff.

[Anonymous No.18552320]

Just bought beans from a local roaster online, no date of roasting indicated on the bag and I found out it was owned by two women so that's a big no from me in the future. Local can be such a crapshoot.

[Anonymous No.18552326]

>>18552320
Google maps now conviniently tells you when a shop is "women-led".

[Anonymous No.18552334]

>>18552326
Black owned too but I've found that isn't really an issue with roasters lol.

[Anonymous No.18552347]

>>18552320
>local roaster
do they specifically say they roast in house?
if not they are not a roaster they are just a distributor. also dont order from a roaster that doesnt roast at least twice a week.

[Anonymous No.18552349]

>>18552326
great a list of restaurants to blacklist.

[Anonymous No.18552488]

>>18544405
Few things are more enjoyable than a 2am cup of coffee.

[Anonymous No.18552531]

>>18552488
2 am coffee last night + DST fucked my schedule. But damn was it good.

[Anonymous No.18552544]

Would it be difficult to put a 6tz bialetti moka pot handle on a 9tz one?
I want to buy a handle for my father's pot, but I only can find the 9tz one.

[Anonymous No.18552556]

>>18552544
>tz
what the fuck is that

[Anonymous No.18552569]

>>18552556
tazza – 50ml

[Anonymous No.18552629]

>>18552320
You can contact them and ask them about their roasting practices. I did when I got a bag without a date, and they told me they ship coffee between 2 to 14 days after roasting. Not ideal but not a dealbreaker for me either.

[Anonymous No.18552686]

>>18552320
>I found out it was owned by two women so that's a big no from me in the future
Good call. They might menstruate on your coffee.

[Anonymous No.18552810]

>>18552276
Kicking Horse 454 Horsepower

[Anonymous No.18552819]

>>18552276
Alternatively, Rivermoon Fade-To-Black (Smoked beans)

[Anonymous No.18552877]

French press vs pour over? I want a method that doesn't use electricity and preferably no filters either

[Anonymous No.18552887]

>>18552877
Pour over needs filters. If you want something like that get a moka pot.

[Anonymous No.18552896]

>>18552877
aeropress with metal filter, unironically

[Anonymous No.18552909]

>>18552896
Nah I ain't using that hipster garbage. Used my coworkers a couple times and wasn't a fan

[Anonymous No.18552967]

pls no bulli am poor

[Anonymous No.18552999]

>>18552024
>Guess I'm sticking with my Flare
flare will make better espresso anyway

[Anonymous No.18553022]

>>18552024
>Flare
Do you have a Flair Neo, Classic, or a 58[x]?

[Anonymous No.18553042]

>>18552967
make a video of the full process and you drinking it, i dont believe you

[Anonymous No.18553049]

>>18553042
I can do it again later but here's the end product

[Anonymous No.18553065]

>>18552967
crazy how nowadays we can afford mobile phones and internet access, but not some simpler things

[Anonymous No.18553075]

>>18553049
cold brew? if thats the case then i guess because its meant to be super coarse.

[Anonymous No.18553092]

>>18553065
I didn't buy this phone, my father bought it for me before he left me to fend for myself halfway through college.

[Anonymous No.18553122]

>>18552276
you posted it. really good mud taste. it was almost spicy, too.

[Anonymous No.18553125]

>>18551527
audible kek

[Anonymous No.18553128]

>>18553075
I ground it as fine as possible and steeped it hot for 10 minutes, filtering it into a carafe after. I poured it into this jar to drink from. It's a cheap Colombian medium roast arabica from a supermarket, nothing special.

[Anonymous No.18553175]

>>18553128
wait so you aren't doing cold brew?

[Anonymous No.18553185]

>>18553175
I'm drinking it cold

[Anonymous No.18553212]

>>18553185
why are you squatting on the table?

[Anonymous No.18553223]

>>18553185
have you tried doing this?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v_qHWgmsPrw

[Anonymous No.18553348]

>I grind with my hands

[Anonymous No.18553377]

>>18553348
>he doesn't grind with his teeth

[Anonymous No.18553384]

>>18553377
>in situ cold brew

[Anonymous No.18553446]

aldi breakfast blend is kinda gross prepared hot but it makes nice cold brew. with a bit of whole milk it's just dirt cheap smooth caramel goodness.

[Anonymous No.18553489]

Ingredients:
>Ground Aldi's Breakfast Blend(the one with the rooster on it).
>RATIO: ONE CUP COFFEE-4 CUPS WATER
>Star anise (~2 pods/1 teaspoon),
>Vanilla extract,
>Cloves (2-4 cloves to taste; you can always add more at the end but you can't take away!),
>Cinnamon (about 1/2 to 1 stick, or, 1/4 to 1/2 teaspoon ground),
>Ginger (4 teaspoons),
>Nutmeg (1 teaspoon. Remember that nutmeg is sweet and you're adding sweetened milk, this recipe makes 4 servings!) to taste,
>1/4 cup coconut cream (NOT CREAM OF COCONUT, that is sweetened), 1/4 cup sweetened condensed milk (total, so 1/16 cup or 1 tablespoon per drink, of each),

Cold brew, hot bloom your coffee: pour about 1.5 cups of hot water over the grounds, shove your spices and vanilla in while it's still hot, allow to bloom for 30 seconds, then pour over the rest of your water. Let steep in the fridge or at room temp--covered, obviously--overnight. Let those flavors get to know eachother and mingle. You can add your 1/2 cup coconut cream and 1/2 cup S.C. milk now, or 1/16 cup each, per drink, when you are serving it. I prefer now.

Take that bitch out, filter it through a fine meshed sieve. Drink it.

[Anonymous No.18553849]

I wish coffee didn't have caffeine so I could drink it all day
>inb4 decaf
it doesn't hit the same frfr ong

[Anonymous No.18553853]

>>18553849
Trust in The Hoff's decaf project

[Anonymous No.18553866]

>>18553849
>he doesn't have adhd so caffeine puts him to sleep

[Anonymous No.18553893]

>>18553866
>coffee either doesnt do anything or puts me to sleep
what does it mean...

[Anonymous No.18554210]

Coof

[Anonymous No.18554222]

>>18554210
cooffee

[Anonymous No.18554358]

>>18554210
How do you take your goffee?

[Anonymous No.18554362]

i just fucking love the v60

[Anonymous No.18554424]

>>18554358
Just got some new puck screens in so today its spresso.
The new disc style is way better than stacked mesh. Wipes clean, no space for residual coffee to build up.

[Anonymous No.18554459]

Svart guy here. Day 3: I got influenced and bought some Costa Rican coffee, I brewed it with my stupid method, came out very bitter and awful. Threw it away and started over with the Hoffman method. It's pretty good, anon. What are some nice brewing methods that don't take a math genius to do?

[Anonymous No.18554468]

>>18554362
I took an oath when I was a child to never use a v60 but god damn I would be lying if I said it wasn't hard. It is hard...

[Anonymous No.18554631]

>>18554424
are those 0.2mm holes

[Anonymous No.18554657]

>>18554424
mesh isnt a big deal. i just soak mine in cafiza bath every couple days. dunno why everyone thinks you need some ultrasonic cleaner. everyone's so precious and overdoes it with coffee shit. like changing burrs - some fag has a video where he takes an HOUR to change burrs on his kafatek monolith max when you literally just need to pull them out, clean it, put them back in with a torque wrench and rezero. should take 15 minutes tops

[Anonymous No.18554667]

>>18554657
>everyone's so precious and overdoes it with coffee shit
Well yeah, it's the hobby for neurotic white people.

[Anonymous No.18554771]

>>18554631
Its the picture from the listing. Not sure what they sent but mine are both the same, they didn't mention different hole sizes when I ordered a few weeks ago.
>Tell us your loved hole when ordering. Default random
>>18554657
>dunno why everyone thinks you need some ultrasonic cleaner. everyone's so precious and overdoes it with coffee shit.
Makes the process so much quicker and easier than having to soak it every 3 days. I wanted a small bath for electronics and shit anyway so it was a no brainer. Half a bump of cafiza + a shot of kettle water and press the button. You can have sparkling clean screens and baskets before your machine warms up. But the discs are better 100%. Can't fucking believe I paid normcore $20 for an extra mesh one.