/ck/ - Food & Cooking

[Anonymous No.18533309]

Can you imagine the future of food?
Everyone will eat healthy plant based food and genetically engineered meat with no cholesterol/saturated fat and heart disease is eliminated. Animal food borne illness like salmonella gone too.

Thrill seekers will go abroad to underground wet markets to get some real meat.

[Anonymous No.18533330]

>>18533309
Call me when you can make in vitro
Eggs
Fat tissue
Bones
Collagen
Skin
Organs
Blood
Tripe
Glands

[Anonymous No.18533367]

>>18533330
Not sure what point you're trying to make.

[Anonymous No.18533369]

>>18533330
Soon, goy

[Anonymous No.18533372]

>>18533367
>>18533369
That I eat all those

[Anonymous No.18533374]

[Anonymous No.18533379]

>>18533309
Can I still get a steak? With baked potato?

[Anonymous No.18533381]

>>18533379
We can only speculate.

[Anonymous No.18533402]

>>18533392
It's literally more harmful to the environmemt to make a tofu ball than to grow a potato

[Anonymous No.18533417]

>>18533392
What about mac and cheese?
Any of that?
I could see living with this if you just had some mac and cheese

[Anonymous No.18533436]

>>18533309
>Everyone will eat healthy plant based food and genetically engineered meat
Not until the "cleansing" kills the last American.

[Anonymous No.18533442]

>>18533417
>I could see living with this if you just had some mac and cheese
I can't imagine being that poor.
So sad.

[Anonymous No.18533449]

>>18533402
I mean... yeah? Are you still deluded into thinking that these people actually want to help anything, let alone the environment?

[Anonymous No.18533466]

While I'm completely in favor of in vitro meat for the reasons you listed;
I consider it the moral obligation of everyone who eats meat to have killed and slaughtered their own meal at least once in their life.

All life comes at a cost. Just because you paid someone else to clear the land for your facilities, that doesn't make you less culpable. We only made it this far through blood, sweat, and sacrifice.
If you consider yourself separate from that, you do not deserve to benefit from it.

[Anonymous No.18534453]

>saturated fat and Cholesterol Bad
Your brain is Made Out of saturated fat and Cholesterol. Fuck you. There isnt a single study Proving your Point.

[Anonymous No.18534469]

>>18533466
you just say that because you already did it

[Anonymous No.18534490]

>>18533309
>cholesterol/saturated fat
>having anything to do with heart disease
its amazing to me how hard it is to kill that myth

[Anonymous No.18534627]

>>18534469
>you just say that because you already did it
I say that because I'm a conservationist.

[Anonymous No.18534635]

>>18533309
Is that hologram man just drinking a cup of cum? Wtf future exhibits.

[Anonymous No.18534639]

>>18534627
It's more efficient and less wasteful to have trained professionals do all the killing for distribution to the general population than it is have every individual slaughter their own meat as a point of pride.

[Anonymous No.18534640]

>dude in the future everyone will be healthy lmao
being sick is the world's biggest business, that shit's not going away anytime soon

[Anonymous No.18534668]

At least put effort into your bait threads.

[Anonymous No.18534681]

>>18534639
>than it is have every individual slaughter their own meat as a point of pride.
It's not a point of pride. It's a point of humility.
I think that everyone should unclog their own toilet at least once in their life, too, for similar reasons.
It might be more efficient to specialize certain tasks, but that high efficiency comes at other costs. Namely a general lack of understanding and respect for the world around you.

[Anonymous No.18534761]

People are terrified of fake meats taking over and replacing real meats, why are you so dumb? It’s a fad. Yeah fast food is putting them on all their menus because they do that to capitalize on fads.

No one in any numbers has stopped eating meat, meat isn’t now unavailable, it isn’t cheaper than real meat, no one’s forcing you to buy it. Literally the more you ignore it the more you go away.
>but you vill eat the bugs
The elite groups make far more money off a sick population shoveling down burgers, fried chicken, and diabetes medication than they would selling some spongy fake meat

[Anonymous No.18534777]

desu if you could make synthetic meat in a vat and it tasted the same and had the same nutrients and it cost the same, yeah i'd eat it.

[Anonymous No.18534782]

>>18534761
>they do that to capitalize on fads
Wrong, they do it because a marketer working for the fake meat company sold a fast food executive on the idea, and nothing more. You think that fast food outlets made a profit on that Beyond crap when Beyond itself has tanked? Everyone who tried it said it was like eating inedible rubber.

Executives aren't obligated to make the company more profitable so it shouldn't really come as a surprise that they're easily swayed by marketers. If they make the company $1million while losing $5million that's fine for them so long as the $5million loss can be blamed on someone or something else. Now it looks like they've made the company $1million with no loss.

[Anonymous No.18534790]

>>18534782
it's about the feasibility of it. making fake meat is not like putting a man on the moon, but there were years and years of nasa losing money until the rewards were ready to be reapt.
the comparison i am making is that just because it is shit now, does not mean it will be shit in 5 years. the fact that people are interested it in all is pretty telling.

[Anonymous No.18534800]

>>18534790
NASA is not a private company seeking to turn a profit. The moon landing was all about burning through public money so the US could wave its dick at the Soviets and nothing more. And trust me, people are not interested in this shite. I'm a retail manager and every time we get this sort of stuff in I just roll my eyes since I know it's all just going to get reduced or thrown away. Happens every single time. Nobody wants it. Don't let a small vocal minority on social media convince you otherwise. Don't let the internet shape your opinions. If your life doesn't contain the thing in question enough for you to form your own, then don't have one.

[Anonymous No.18534815]

>>18533466
>If you consider yourself separate from that

[Anonymous No.18534826]

>>18534800
i disagree with your predictions. i disagree with your reliance on anecdotes. i disagree with your interpretation of the motivations behind the moon landing.

[Anonymous No.18534833]

>>18534826
Keeping an eye on the sales of fake meat products in an English food shop that takes around 3 million a year sounds like more than an "anecdote" to me. Believe it or not the sky isn't falling, nor is it going to.

[Anonymous No.18534878]

>>18533330
I'm a quirky pagan tehe

[Anonymous No.18534935]

>>18533466
Whre can I do that as a general layman? Some place where I could just go to and say "I would fancy to shoot and butcher a hog"?

That would be awesome. Especially if it was economically viable - read "cheaper than supermarket"

Unless something like this exists, GTFO. Or at least STFU.

Not everyone has the means to do what you propose.

[Anonymous No.18535014]

>>18534935
>Whre can I do that as a general layman?
>Unless something like this exists, GTFO. Or at least STFU.
I'm not asking you to kill your own cow.
Just even buy rabbit, kill it, clean it, and eat it. Or at least go fishing once in your life.
The purpose here isn't the hunting itself, it's that you aren't just taking the life you took for granted.

[Anonymous No.18535019]

>>18534815
>Irony: the post

[Anonymous No.18535070]

>>18535019
>>Irony: the post
I'm not sure what you think "irony" means.
Or what you think a strawman is.
Hope this helps:
https://www.google.com/search?q=irony+definition
https://www.google.com/search?q=strawman

[Anonymous No.18535078]

>>18534935
>Some place where I could just go to and say "I would fancy to shoot and butcher a hog"?
There's plenty of places you can do this, actually. If you're in the US, there's a gaurantee that someplace in your region will offer something like this. Squirrels are really easy game, by the way.

[Anonymous No.18535080]

>>18535070
I'm not sure what you think "irony" means.
Or what you think a strawman is.
Hope this helps:
https://www.google.com/search?q=irony+definition
https://www.google.com/search?q=strawman

[Anonymous No.18535132]

>>18535080
Posting about the definition of irony without understanding what irony is...heh...ironic...

[Anonymous No.18535161]

>>18535132
If you had something of value to say or an argument with actual substance, you would have posted it by now.

[Anonymous No.18535207]

>>18533309
>the future of food
More likely it's going to be primarily processed grains.
>easy to farm
>versatile
>high calorie:volume ratio
The working class will subsist on wheat, corn, soy, and rice ground up and pressed into just about any shape you can imagine, disguised with artificial flavors and colorful packaging.
The upper classes will have fresh vegetables and meats.

Just like it's always been.

[Anonymous No.18535395]

>>18534639
I don't think it's about a point of pride. I think it's about understanding the world and our place in it. There are people who talk about how much they hate violence while eating meat. They're completely divorced from the natural world and don't understand that to get that meat in front of them other people had to kill and butcher an animal, both of which are violent acts.

[Anonymous No.18535476]

>>18534761
>It’s a fad
Nah, these are emerging fields with long term potential and high demand.
Think "organ manufacturing". There's a lot of people willing to pay a bookoo bucks for a synthetic heart.

Growing a slab of meat should be child's play in comparison. The real challenge is making it profitable, but there's motives to do that.
As long as the medical sector for in vitro continues growing, costs for in vitro consumer products will decrease as well.

[Anonymous No.18535485]

>>18533309
>Back before we had in vitro meat
>we
There are people in the world who still live in straw huts. They aren't going to be eating lab meat and flying around in hovercars in the future.

[Anonymous No.18535980]

>>18535014
Where do you propose I buy a food safe live rabbit?! That would be extremely stressfull for the animal and therefore the taste would he shit.

Just accept that not everyone has the means to kill and butcher their food.

[Anonymous No.18535984]

>>18533309
imagine fungus farms on shit piles to feed the soyboys

[Anonymous No.18535988]

>>18535078
I am not in the USofA.

Hunting trips are a thing here, but it is unfeasibly costly.

And squirrels are a protected species here. ALL squirrels. Even just buying a squirrel from a farm abroad and killing it is illegal here. Trust me, I have checked

[Anonymous No.18536005]

>>18535988
>buying a squirrel from a farm abroad and killing it is illegal here. Trust me, I have checked
How did this come up?
Did you just now check for this thread, or was this something you wanted to know before?

[Anonymous No.18536101]

>>18536005
There is some culinary history involving squirrels where I live. I wanted to try some recipes. I poked around for squirrel meat and ran into that legal wall.

[Anonymous No.18536121]

>>18535980
>Where do you propose I buy a food safe live rabbit?!
>Food safe
... It's a rabbit. You make it food safe by cooking it. Just like squirrels and fish or literally anything you can easily catch or shoot in any park that allows it.
Just accept that you're making excuses and that you've always had the access and means

[Anonymous No.18536150]

>>18536101
Ok.
When I was a teenager, a friend of mine shot a squirrel and we cooked it over a fire.
It was pretty tough and greasy.
I guess you'd have to cook it low and slow, maybe in a stew.

[Anonymous No.18536158]

>>18536121
Cant exactly cook antibiotics out of meat.

I can buy a wild dead one but I feel like that would defeat the purpouse.

Not everyone lives in a place where you can buy a gun with your morning coffee.

And even if I somehow procure a live rabbit that was farmed for food and not as a pet. Where do you propose I butcher it? In my bathroom in the condo apartment I live in?

Do you really want to cause suffering to animals THAT much?

[Anonymous No.18536171]

>>18536150
Most of the recipes boil them whole and then prepare some sauce to go with it.

Resulting stock is then used as a soup and as liquid part for those sauces.

I tried it with a rabbit and the recipes seem solid. Its just that getting squirrels is not really feasible since UK brexited from the EU.

[Anonymous No.18536177]

>>18535988
>I am not in the USofA.
I'll be blunt
I have nothing to say that won't be extremely rude or condescending to you.
The only thing I can advise is to vote accordingly. I cannot commit any further to the discussion with you if I consider the laws themselves to be morally reprehensible.

[Anonymous No.18536184]

>>18536158
>I can't get a gun
Learn to use a bow, or just learn snares to catch wild ones
>Antibiotics
??? You're catching a wild rabbit, do you think there's a factory outputting vaxxed rabbits into the woods for no gain?
>Procure a live rabbit that was farmed
>Farmed
Dude just hunt one.

Or, go fishing. Fishing is easy, there's basically no blood and you still get basically the same experience. You're overcomplicating things to make sure you're not capable of doing them, because you're adverse to the idea. Just say that and bow out man.

[Anonymous No.18536194]

>>18536184
I do hate fish, no reason to kill one if I would just toss it.

Bow hunting is illegal in developed parts of the world. And for a good reason. Same with snares really.

You really do just want to see the animals suffer ...

[Anonymous No.18536197]

>>18536158
>And even if I somehow procure a live rabbit that was farmed for food and not as a pet. Where do you propose I butcher it? In my bathroom in the condo apartment I live in?
Or in your kitchen. It's a rabbit, there's not gonna be that much mess

[Anonymous No.18536202]

>>18536194
>You really do just want to see the animals suffer ...
Putting it out of sight and out of mind does not prevent it from happening.

[Anonymous No.18536207]

>>18536177
I CAN get a gun, it just requires a license for which I simply have no need or use. Its not even that expensive or hard to get, I just really dont need it.

Squirrels are protected here because they are endangered here. The law is a bit stupidly written but its also very low on a list of "things that really need fixing".

Please be condescending, I am curious what you think about the acually developed parts of the world.

I also fail to see what is morally reprehensible here ...

[Anonymous No.18536209]

>>18536177
>I consider the laws themselves to be morally reprehensible.
Not him, but...
Not killing an endangered species is "morally reprehensible"?
FYI, red squirrels are an endangered species in the UK, partially because of the importation of grey squirrels (which brought squirrelpox with them).

[Anonymous No.18536219]

https://youtu.be/0FRD4uq1mVw

[Anonymous No.18536220]

>>18536197
True. Rabbit would be manageable. I still dont fancy killing it in my kitchen. Especially since I know I cant do it very cleanly.

[Anonymous No.18536228]

>>18536202
Bruh ... There is a difference between a clean shot with a hunting rifle and bladed arrow. Several hours of suffering is the difference.

And there is also a difference between arrow and cutting cows throat after its been stunned. Again - many hours of suffering.

Bow hunting is just dumb. If you want to go out and hunt, use proper modern equipment.

[Anonymous No.18536232]

[Anonymous No.18536233]

>>18533309
Use that technology to make new stuff, not stuff trying to imitate what I've already had.

[Anonymous No.18536238]

>>18536220
Just slit the throat and hang it above your sink

[Anonymous No.18536254]

>>18536238
Sound simple, in theory. Not that simple in practice unless you, you lnow, practice.

But consider this: Why would I do that when I can literally just buy a skinned and gutted one in my local supermarket?

I am trying to have a dinner, not to do a blood ritual.

[Anonymous No.18536260]

>>18533309
>the future
>white people existing
It's always dishonest political shills trying to sell you on veganism and eating the bugs and other leftist delusions. The reality is they are destroying.

Reminder to eat protein or you will become a weak and brain damaged retard like OP.

[Anonymous No.18536273]

>>18536260
>eating the bugs and other leftist delusions.
???
I'm guessing you've never left Arizona, huh?

[Anonymous No.18536285]

>>18536209
>Endangered
If you haven't picked up from the context of this discussion, we've mostly been sticking to r-selected organisms that are either plentiful or invasive, or common livestock. Particularly within the US.
No one is berating you for not hitting up your local zoo. They're berating you for being vague about your country of origin and not recognizing a local equivalent

[Anonymous No.18536287]

>>18536207
>Please be condescending, I am curious what you think about the acually developed parts of the world.
This isn't /bant/. I'd rather not.

[Anonymous No.18536295]

>>18536228
>Several hours of suffering is the difference.
The discussion is about more than just shooting. If you tell me where you're from, I can suggest some options.

[Anonymous No.18536307]

Billionaires can convince people to do almost anything if they make them feel smart and conscientious enough. We already eat industrial waste in the form of cooking oils and eat domesticated weeds because we're told their superfoods.

[Anonymous No.18536315]

>>18533330
This.
Also when they can make in vitro vitamins and minerals that are not synthetic and are in the exact same bioavailable forms as found in meat from living pastured animals.

[Anonymous No.18536318]

>>18536254
>Why would I do that when I can literally just buy a skinned and gutted one in my local supermarket?
Do that all you want. I do it constantly.
The issue is that with every animal that you've ever eaten, you've simply paid someone else to do the dirty work for you.
When you eat a chicken or even eggs, do you think about how many male chicks are thrown into a grinder right after being sexed?
No. You've never had to experience that weight. All we're asking you is to experience just once a small portion of the effort and sacrifice it takes to keep you fed without just passing the buck to someone else.

[Anonymous No.18536328]

>>18534935
Raise some chickens and butcher those.

[Anonymous No.18536332]

>>18536285
>They're berating you for being vague about your country of origin and not recognizing a local equivalent
*sigh*
I'm not the guy who can't import squirrels, he's from the UK, and he was told:
>>18535078
>Squirrels are really easy game, by the way.
Then the same (?) Anon (you?) said not being allowed to kill endangered species was "morally reprehensible" and that UK Anon should vote in a way to change the law.
I'm not real familiar with UK politics, but I don't think there's a "kill the squirrels" party.
Try to keep up.

[Anonymous No.18536343]

>>18536332
>Try to keep up.
No. You try to keep up.
My post literally said "if you're in the US."
Go harass the other anon for not using this chance to specify where he was from. Stop defending him for being intentionally vague.

[Anonymous No.18536350]

>>18536318
>with every animal that you've ever eaten, you've simply paid someone else to do the dirty work for you.
Not him, but we pay specialists to do all kinds of tasks, killing food animals isn't really any different.

>When you eat a chicken or even eggs, do you think about how many male chicks are thrown into a grinder right after being sexed?
>No. You've never had to experience that weight.
I can't speak for him, but:
a) I already knew about this, and
b) He's not going to learn about it by killing his own food for dinner.

More for the thread in general:
Lots of people kill crabs when they boil them alive.

[Anonymous No.18536352]

>>18536332
The conversation went like this:
>Where could I just go and ask to butcher a hog?
>If you're in the US there are places. Squirrels are easy game, by the way.
>I can't hunt because it's too expensive and there's too much red tape.
>I consider laws that make access to hunting prohibitively expensive or difficult morally reprehensible.
>Squirrels are endangered here.
No one called laws against killing endangered animals morally reprehensible. The fact that squirrels are endangered came up AFTER that comment and it was about hunting in general before that point.

[Anonymous No.18536359]

>>18536343
>Stop defending him for being intentionally vague.
Show me where I did that?
It's a pretty common practice on the 4chins to avoid any self-doxxing, but even so, he _does_ say:
>>18536171
>getting squirrels is not really feasible since UK brexited from the EU.

[Anonymous No.18536360]

>Can you imagine the future of food?
Th future is blueberry, all of your foods will be blueberry-based. Your steak? Made of blueberries! Burgers? Blueberries, blueberries stacked on top of blueberries!

Your taste buds will adjust to the taste of the blueberries. All human lives in the future will only be eating blueberry-based foods. You will eat the blueberries and be happy! Pop!!!

[Anonymous No.18536362]

>>18536350
>but we pay specialists to do all kinds of tasks
That's fine. That's honestly how it should be. No one is suggesting otherwise.
I'm just saying that if it's feasible, you should try it for yourself at least once so that you can appreciate it.

[Anonymous No.18536368]

>>18536352


>>18536177
>morally reprehensible.
is a response to:
>>18535988
>Even just buying a squirrel from a farm abroad and killing it is illegal here.
And he doesn't say hunting is a problem because of any laws, just that:
>>18535988
>Hunting trips are a thing here, but it is unfeasibly costly.

...and now I'm off to kill a gopher for dinner.

[Anonymous No.18536369]

>>18536209
Shouldn't they be encouraging you to kill grey squirrels then

[Anonymous No.18536373]

>>18536359
>avoid any self-doxxing
No one is going to be able to dox you based on what country you're from.

>but even so, he _does_ say
Yes, several posts after.
I can suggest something more appropriate to the UK if you would like advice.

[Anonymous No.18536380]

>>18536368
There still was no mention of squirrels being endangered until AFTER the laws were called morally reprehensible. Being illegal to buy and kill does not automatically imply endangered status, it could just be that the law is stupid. The laws were called morally reprehensible because they prohibited buying and killing an animal which is considered extremely common and possibly even over-populated in the US and because the laws make hunting too expensive to engage in.

[Anonymous No.18536477]

>>18536307
>domesticated weeds
You can make anything sound gross with the right words. Your ancestors were eating real weeds, trad retard

[Anonymous No.18536488]

>>18536477
Got a reliable source for that sweetie?

[Anonymous No.18536514]

>>18533309
Cholesterol and saturated fat are essential tho and aren't correlated to heart disease

[Anonymous No.18536614]

>>18534681
>I think that everyone should unclog their own toilet at least once in their life, too, for similar reasons.
I disagreed with you on the meat but I agree with the toilet, so I can understand your point about the meat.
>Namely a general lack of understanding and respect for the world around you.
Absolutely. I wish schools forced kids to spend a week doing jobs like summer mailman, farming and janitor to teach them that. I know in some schools in America they like having kids take care of a garden at school, or having a class pet. Wish there was more of this.

[Anonymous No.18536628]

>>18533309
All vegans are awful, abjectly awful wastes of space. You could just go over there and eat your plant starches and nobody would care, but you can't leave other people alone, because you genuinely think of yourselves as morally superior crusaders 'fixing' the world.
You deserve to be eaten alive by a pack of wolves, all of you.
Never eating vegan "food" either btw, not sorry

[Anonymous No.18536654]

people are always going to eat animals and theres nothing you can do about it

[Anonymous No.18537140]

>>18536628
>Never eating vegan "food" either btw, not sorry
I suspect you eat some things that are vegan, we all do.
I usually use olive oil when frying, so my french fries are technically vegan, even though I eat plenty of meat and dairy.
Red beans and rice, salad with Italian dressing, etc.

[Anonymous No.18537156]

>>18533309
>heart disease is eliminated
haha no vegans can and do have heart disease.

[Anonymous No.18538034]

>>18533309
>Can you imagine the future
id rather not

[Anonymous No.18538203]

>>18534935
go hunting? are you retarded, is this some kind of ploy or are you truly like this?

[Anonymous No.18538458]

>>18538203
Better question: Are YOU retarded?

[Anonymous No.18538588]

>>18538203
Eurofags can't go hunting because that would imbue too much independence to the tax cattle.

[Anonymous No.18538611]

>>18538203
After paying for guns, ammo, and all the other gear, hunting really is not cheaper than the supermarket. Maybe after like 5 really successful years the price would even put, but you still have to practice shooting and ammo is fucking expensive

[Anonymous No.18538650]

>>18538611
You're supposed to own guns and practice with them whether you hunt or not.

[Anonymous No.18538654]

>>18538611
>hunting really is not cheaper than the supermarket
It can be cheaper if you're good enough at whatever craft you're doing.
But I think you're missing the point.
People don't homebrew because they're trying to save money. Even if it's possible, it's more about learning and taking ownership of a process.
Self actualization and whatnot.

[Anonymous No.18538677]

>>18538650
A good home defense gun is not necessarily a good hunting gun. I have both and wouldn't use one for the other purpose unless I was forced to for some reason

>>18538654
Fair point. As someone who both hunts and homebrews, it's definitely more about the experience and the art of it than trying to save money. Though I priced it out once and for me a typical homebrew beer is much cheaper than craft beer, but more expensive than mass-produced lager

[Anonymous No.18538678]

>>18538611
>everyone who eats meat should kill and butcher an animal at least once to develop humility and respect for where their food comes from
>heh, yeah, but ackshually hunting is pretty pricy compared to the supermarket!
No one cares, that's not what this is about.

[Anonymous No.18538690]

>>18538678
>that's not what this is about.
YEAH!
It's about some douchebag looking down on the unwashed masses because he wants to pretend he has a moral superiority by pretending that others don't know (somehow) that KFC kills living chickens.

[Anonymous No.18538743]

>>18538690
>by pretending that others don't know (somehow) that KFC kills living chickens.
No one here has said or asserted anything like this and you look like a jackass for posting like this.

[Anonymous No.18538765]

>>18538690
It's not that people don't know KFC kills chickens, it's that they don't have any actual respect for what it means to kill a chicken. They know, intellectually, that the drumsticks they're eating come from chickens but they're so divorced from the actual process that they don't really appreciate what that means on any deeper level. That disconnection leads people to not really think about where their food comes from and not care about animal welfare. To most people meat is just a lump of stuff from the store.

I'm not the anon who originally suggested people should kill and butcher an animal, but I generally agree with the premise. Spending time around farms and animals and seeing them slaughtered and butchered makes me care a great deal about how animals are treated and it lead me to avoid fast food and buy meat locally from farms where I can verify that their animals are raised properly.

[Anonymous No.18538786]

>>18538743
Really? The "kill your own food" guy is super obviously saying this.
see:
>>18538765
His (your?) personal tone-deafness aside, I rest my case.

[Anonymous No.18538794]

>>18538690
>looking down on the unwashed masses

[Anonymous No.18538829]

>>18538786
So you just didn't read my post despite referencing it here? In particular where I said:
>It's not that people don't know KFC kills chickens
>They know, intellectually, that the drumsticks they're eating come from chickens
Do you really not understand the difference between knowing that meat comes from animals and truly appreciating that it came off of a living creature that was killed for it? This is about relieving cognitive dissonance.

[Anonymous No.18538835]

>>18538829
Oh, I read your post specifically designed to refute the literal words of my previous post, yet you betray yourself with nonsense like:
>>18538829
>truly appreciating that it came off of a living creature that was killed for it

So we all know KFC kills chickens, but somehow it's not really, truly real for the people you'd look down on.

>>18538829
>This is about relieving cognitive dissonance.
Yes. Your own.
Show me anybody that doesn't "truly appreciate" that meat comes from animals, (your own fictional world-view aside).

[Anonymous No.18538860]

>>18538786
You are missing the point so hard.
No one claimed you weren't aware of meat industry practices.
Only that you pay a lot of money to not have to think about it.

[Anonymous No.18538862]

>>18538835
nta but you talk like a faggot and your shits all retarded

[Anonymous No.18538878]

>>18533309
>you mean like animals used to do before they went extinct due to pollution dumped in the water that we ignored in favour of fake meat. mommy?

[Anonymous No.18538924]

Lmao, they couldn't manage to pass a law that said you can't be drunk while hunting here in france. I'm sure they'll be able to ban meat pretty soon

[Anonymous No.18538963]

>>18538860
So, we're "aware" but don't think about it?
Show me anybody who is like that.
And how is that different from what I said here:
>>18538835
>So we all know KFC kills chickens, but somehow it's not really, truly real for the people you'd look down on.

[Anonymous No.18538969]

>>18538862
>nta but you talk like a faggot and your shits all retarded
https://youtu.be/B_obeR1OIm8

[Anonymous No.18539107]

>>18538963
>Show me anybody who is like that.
Have you ever seen peta before?
There's a reason they kept gaining (and losing) followers.
It's full of children who became vegan after learning DA HORRORS of meat industry, but gave up because meat was too yummy for them.
It's extremely common for people to just closet that thought away because it's inconvenient.

[Anonymous No.18539115]

>>18538835
>Show me anybody that doesn't "truly appreciate" that meat comes from animals
>>18538963
>So, we're "aware" but don't think about it?
>Show me anybody who is like that.
You've never met someone who couldn't stomach eating meat from a cooked fish with its head on? Or someone who can't stomach looking at a roast pig and eating meat from it? At least around me, it's incredibly common for sheltered suburban and urban types to feel notably uncomfortable or even repulsed by eating meat that actually looks like it's part of the animal it came from. It's absolutely something most people never actually think about and don't like thinking about. Like I said, people know on an intellectual level that chicken comes from chickens, pork comes from pigs, and beef comes from cows, but they often actively hide from it at a deeper emotional level.

[Anonymous No.18539137]

>>18538677
What do you have?
You can do both with a shotgun or a good handgun and definitely also with an AR platform.
Hell, you can do both with a bow, if you're practiced.

[Anonymous No.18539202]

>>18533309
why aren't the kids brown

[Anonymous No.18539219]

>>18539115
I think you're living in a fantasy world that serves your inflated sense of superiority.

[Anonymous No.18539276]

>>18533309
kek picrel

[Anonymous No.18539304]

>>18539219
The hell are you talking about?
He completely hit the nail on the head.

I've served whole hogs for weddings before and he described the public reaction to a T. Most people were completely fine with it, but others reacted with abject horror. Most of them still took the pork that I served them after I cut it, just as long as it wasn't a part of the pig.
I once showed a picture of a duck that I cooked to a coworker and she audibly screamed because it still had it's head.

It's extremely common that the moment you remind someone that their food once lived and breathed, the cognitive dissonance sets it. None of these people would have the mental fortitude to do the job themselves, but will still happily eat it if you dress it right.

[Anonymous No.18539309]

>>18533367
the point he's trying to make is wgaf wgas about lab made goyslop. wake us up when you get do all the aforementioned. in fact, wake me up when UBI has been implemented and work has been totally eliminated and we're all neets

[Anonymous No.18539339]

>>18533466
Replace "moral obligation" with "I deeply recommend for your personal development this action...", and your post would turn from completely retarded to agreeable.

There is nothing wrong with killing lower life forms, period.
Gatekeeping eating meat will further malnutrition.

[Anonymous No.18539346]

>>18539115
I've noticed its mostly the sheltered suburban middle class who can't handle it. The urban types have greater exposure to various cultural foods (if you live near a Chinatown you've seen/eaten some weird shit) and when you're poor its cheaper to buy and breakdown entire proteins. There are, of course, exceptions but that's the general trend I've noticed.

[Anonymous No.18539378]

>>18539346
I guess it depends on the nature of the urban area. None of the cities I've lived in or near had truly authentic/weird ethnic food (no Chinatowns or anything similar either) or anything like that. Maybe it's different on the coasts, though.

[Anonymous No.18539591]

>>18539137
Can't hunt with handguns or semi-autos where I live. I have a 9mm handgun, a 12 gauge shotgun, and a .243 bolt action rifle

[Anonymous No.18539733]

ITT: pol schizos who think meat will be made illegal

[Anonymous No.18540148]

>>18533309
More likely we'll be eating mushrooms, rats, dogs, and whatever precious little grain and sorgum cakes we can harvest each year. Grain if nuclear apocalypse. Sorgum after the really bad parts of the climate apocalypse. The depleted Ozone layer will cause an increased rate in melanoma and cataracts and many refugees will die from heat stroke and/or radiation poisoning in the fields.

[Anonymous No.18540414]

>>18533466
Have you programmed your own image board? If not, why do you use this one?

[Anonymous No.18540432]

>>18539733
New things are scary. Especially when you define your entire identity around the old thing.

[Anonymous No.18540443]

>people freaking out about lab-grown food
>worrying more about the taste and the animal's life
>but not whether the lab-grown stuff actually provides adequate nutrition to a human long term
that's the real fear, making synth-food that starves us to death anyway

[Anonymous No.18540588]

>>18540414
I see what you're getting at, but the concept here is measuring how well your mental constitution aligns with your moral philosophy.
Hyperspecificity isn't the objective here. If you get too granular, you're just going to get into epistemological solipsism.

Is it alright if we skip the chase and just leave that rabbit in its hole?

[Anonymous No.18540601]

>>18533330
Who wants to eat the gross chinky food anyway

[Anonymous No.18540990]

>>18533466

You say that as if butchering an animal is some task which requires tremendous strength of character. They're meat, simple as. My left hand wraps around it's throat as my right drives the point of my knife in and along it's spine, slitting it from chin to asshole as I pierce it's heart and spill it's guts. If it's for my personal consumption and not a client then I'll bash it's skull in aside a steel table first; tends to make 'em squirm less

>t. commercial fisherman

[Anonymous No.18541006]

>>18534490
Correlation does not equal causation anon. Unless it has to do with saturated fats and fluoridated water supplies. Then correlation is the only relevant factor and all modern science can fuck off.

[Anonymous No.18541031]

>>18540990
>butchering an animal is no big deal and I should know because I do it professionally and am completely desensitized to it!
I don't think you understand how disconnected the average person is from the actual violence involved in killing animals for meat. Most people can't even stand to watch videos of animals being killed no matter how humanely, much less do the killing or carving themselves.

[Anonymous No.18541045]

>>18540990
>You say that as if butchering an animal is some task which requires tremendous strength of character.
I say it as if there are entire organizations dedicated to limiting exposure to that type of stuff. A lot of people are squeamish about it.
I get why people empathize with animals, I just want to see them be consistent about it and not draw the line at "it's okay as long as I never have to do it myself".

[Anonymous No.18541048]

>>18541006
Ancel Keys' 7 countries study was originally the 21 countries study until he found that 14 of the countries' data didn't line up with his preconceived notion that saturated fat must be linked to heart disease so he excluded all that data.

[Anonymous No.18541054]

>>18541048
Sounds like he was moving at the speed of science and needed to save lives.

[Anonymous No.18541066]

>>18541031
>>18541045

Given that I make my living catering to that aversion I don't really see anything wrong with it. I've no problem dealing with guts and blood and shit but you'd need steep pockets if you were to ever try and get me to touch a spider. We all have our quirks

[Anonymous No.18541095]

>>18541066
Even if everyone got over that aversion you wouldn't be out of business. It's just not realistic for every person to raise and kill and butcher all of their own meat, we'll always need the division of labor.