/ck/ - Food & Cooking

[Anonymous No.18157576]

Is corn syrup good for you?

[Anonymous No.18157581]

goyslop

[Anonymous No.18157588]

Why do Americans always get the best value?

[Anonymous No.18157590]

>>18157576
Fuck wrong image. Watch how I get a week long ban for this despite all the actual off topic threads on the board

[Anonymous No.18157598]

>>18157590
Again, why do the Americans get more?

[Anonymous No.18157602]

the jews in the corn lobby paying for anti-sugar advertising, research, and legislation are pretty solely to blame for this.

[Anonymous No.18157609]

>attention grabbing image about a hot topic, big brand name and OP question of "is [thing thats been proven to be bad for you] good for you?" that amounts to nothing but fodder about an incredibly controversial and outrage inducing topic
no (you)s for (you)

[Anonymous No.18157749]

>>18157609
have sex

[Anonymous No.18157760]

No, but neither is sugar you fat retarded slob

[Anonymous No.18157764]

>>18157609
Meds

[Anonymous No.18157773]

>>18157590
>2 kinds of corn syrup.

Why do you need two, what does that add that only one doesnt?

[Anonymous No.18157783]

>>18157576
>soybean oil
burgersisters, I don't feel so good...

[Anonymous No.18158013]

delete this thread

[Anonymous No.18158050]

>>18157576
>rapeseed
>rape

no thanks

[Anonymous No.18158053]

>>18157773
because ingredients are listed in decreasing order based on the weight percentage in the final product.
so by using two types of sugar, you can move it down the ingredient list so it doesn't look like sugar is as big of a proportion as it is.

example:
50g water, 40g brown sugar, 30g corn syrup.
would be listed that way. and it "looks like" it's mostly water.

but if you did this:
70g sugar, 50g water
it looks like there's much more sugar, even tough there is the same amount.

[Anonymous No.18158059]

>>18157783
>grapesneed oil
lol, lmao even

[Anonymous No.18158060]

>>18157783
it's over

[Anonymous No.18158062]

>>18157576
>>18157581
>>18157588
>>18157590
>>18157598
>>18157602
>>18157609
>>18157749
>>18157760
>>18157764
>>18157773
>>18157783
>>18158013
>>18158050
>Legally required to show all ingredients in the US
>Not legally required to show all ingredients in EU countries, Australia, etc
Terrible thread as usual

[Anonymous No.18158073]

>>18158062
try consuming less soy the next time

[Anonymous No.18158124]

Let's see if I'm banned or just warned, hmm?

[Anonymous No.18158196]

>>18158062
>Here let me tell you about the EU, which basically has 27 different regulation systems in its 27 different countries with different cultures and states of development, by showing you some horseshit from Australia
This is what a peak American post looks like

[Anonymous No.18158266]

>>18158196
>Can’t read past EU
Peak European “education”
Must be all the chemicals that aren’t listen on your food. But sure, I can say the same with you making generalizations

[Anonymous No.18158273]

>>18157588
more ingredients in fast food usually indicate less value, for example in ops pic they use 4 types of oil mixed instead of 2 likely because it's cheaper and they can adjust the quantities during significant price fluctuations in a particular oil. also notice they omit sunflower entirely in the US, compare the price per litre of sunflower vs canola at walmart and you'll see why, whereas in the UK sunflower oil is around the same price or cheaper than canola

[Anonymous No.18158367]

>>18158266
>Uhhh I mentioned Australia and etc. in my post, that means your accusation of me talking shit about Europe is invalid
>Also just trust me bro Australia is literally the same as the EU
The moment you rather attacked a little flaw in my post than having an argument I knew you were just a shitposter.
Here in Germany products are required to show literally every single chemical and additive, meaning instant trash usually has a wall of E###s on its back.

[Anonymous No.18158370]

>>18157581
This poster is an AI.

[Anonymous No.18158372]

>>18157576
>>18157590
>my country doesn't have stringent laws on ingredient lists, I'm a huge retard
Its the same slop fucktard

[Anonymous No.18158384]

>>18158062
MSG is safe tho. It was a meme started by retarded vegans

[Anonymous No.18158387]

Dumbass here, what makes corn syrup the literal devil? It and sugar are basically the same unhealthy shit ultimately.

[Anonymous No.18158388]

>>18158073
>try consuming less soy next time
Try comprehending what you reply to next time.
The "France version" is labeling their Corn Syrup / HFCS as "Sugar".

[Anonymous No.18158392]

>>18158372
You can move the goal posts all you want how those dumb info graphics don't show all what is in there but one fact remains, we sure as fuck don't import your cornsyrup to put it into literally everything unlike you guys, which is what OP is asking about.

[Anonymous No.18158394]

>>18158367
Face it. He blew you the fuck out.

[Anonymous No.18158397]

>>18158394
With what?

[Anonymous No.18158399]

>>18158388
you're still eating the soy, faggot

[Anonymous No.18158408]

>UK regs mean they don't have to list specifically every ingredient
>US regs mean they do
This bait is 4 fags

[Anonymous No.18158438]

>>18158372
Are you fucking retarded or something? It's a requirement in the EU, and also in many non-EU European countries. What you're allowed to put in your food is also stricter in the EU, particularly the crap they pump into animals in the US, like growth hormones and antibiotics, along with fat substitutes, bleached flour, toxic preservatives, certain food colorings and other unholy crap.

[Anonymous No.18158443]

>>18158387
>Dumbass here, what makes corn syrup the literal devil?
CS / HFCS is cheap so it's added to things more often than it should be.
>It and sugar are basically the same unhealthy shit ultimately.
Table sugar (sucrose) is literally a glucose molecule and a fructose molecule joined together. So yeah, there's very little reason to consider them distinctly.

[Anonymous No.18158536]

>>18158443
There are legitimate differences in the way your body processes the different sugars, but at the end of the day excess sugar is bad for you plain and simple and any retard should be able to understand that

[Anonymous No.18158573]

>>18158408
>Polydimethylsiloxane
We have a fan of condom lubricants in "vegetable oil blends", people. But don't worry, it's all natural. And we know why.

[Anonymous No.18158578]

>>18158573
Meds

[Anonymous No.18158583]

>>18158392
You literally eat the same slop as us idiot

[Anonymous No.18158590]

>>18158394
He blew nothing the fuck out. In France too it's required by law to list all the ingredients. Take the L and quit the thread.

[Anonymous No.18158602]

>>18157576
>rapeseed

[Anonymous No.18158609]

>>18157576
Corn syrup or glucose syrup is actually healthier than sugar, because it doesn't have any fructose, meaning your liver doesn't have to break it down, causing less inflammation. High fructose corn syrup is the thing that's bad for you but it's like 50% sweeter or something, so they use that instead.

[Anonymous No.18158615]

>>18157576
just buy different fries
>>18157590
just buy different ketchup

[Anonymous No.18158622]

>>18158609
It's all bad for you retard

[Anonymous No.18158662]

>>18158370
no jew we just notice the vile poison you put in food and hate it

[Anonymous No.18158664]

>>18158622
You're the retard if you don't understand that there's degrees of bad.
The main pathway how sugar and HFCS damage your body aside from insulin spikes and excess calories, is the existence of fructose without any fiber to slow its release into the bloodstream (which is why fruit is fine in almost any quantity). Fructose can't be readily used by your body and needs to be broken down in your liver, causing inflammation and has even been proven to lead to non-alcoholic liver cirrhosis, even in kids.
Pure glucose syrup still makes you fat and spikes your insulin, but it can be almost directly absorbed into your muscles as glycogen or through a process that's a little bit more complicated be turned into fat if you consume excess calories. In the end it's not much worse than eating white flour, except the insulin spike is a bit worse.

[Anonymous No.18158681]

>>18158662
this was automatically generated

[Anonymous No.18158734]

>>18158681
you were generated by your father the devil

[Anonymous No.18158751]

>>18158734
sure thing bud, whatever your dataset says to post

[Anonymous No.18158759]

>>18158751
sure thing bud, whatever your talmud says to post

[Anonymous No.18158760]

>>18158664
>causing inflammation and has even been proven to lead to non-alcoholic liver cirrhosis, even in kids
Got a source for that?

[Anonymous No.18158765]

>>18158760
Source: The Bible

[Anonymous No.18158808]

>>18158760
>https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1111/j.1365-2036.2012.05080.x
It's got some limitations but there's clear evidence.

[Anonymous No.18158822]

CLEAN IT UP, JANNIES

[Anonymous No.18159028]

Fun fact: HFCS was once touted as a healthy alternative to sugar, since fructose has a very low Glycemic Index

[Anonymous No.18159150]

>>18158062
>this cope about imaginary lenient EU labelling laws again

[Anonymous No.18159171]

>>18157576
>>18157590
Our ingredients look like that because the make up of every ingredient has to be accounted for due to companies adding weird shit like fillers and cheap replacement chemicals to foods. Also some companies would wrongly classify ingredients. What they'd call "sugar" would actually be some syrup or chemical like dextrose, sucrose, fructose, etc
Chances are most other countries don't give a shit

[Anonymous No.18159316]

Fuck's sake.
EU Regulation 1169/2011 Article 18
>The list of ingredients shall be headed or preceded by a suitable heading which consists of or includes the word ingredients. It shall include all the ingredients of the food, in descending order of weight, as recorded at the time of their use in the manufacture of the food.

Code of Federal Regulations Title 21, § 101.4 (a) (1)
>Ingredients required to be declared on the label or labeling of a food, including foods that comply with standards of identity, except those ingredients exempted by § 101.100, shall be listed by common or usual name in descending order of predominance by weight on either the principal display panel or the information panel in accordance with the provisions of § 101.2, except that ingredients in dietary supplements that are listed in the nutrition label in accordance with § 101.36 need not be repeated in the ingredient list. Paragraph (g) of this section describes the ingredient list on dietary supplement products.

And no, there isn't a secret footnote in the EU regs that says
>ps. don't actually list everything, leave a few things out so we can make fun of the americans :^)

[Anonymous No.18159403]

>>18159316
It would be funny though especially the ":^)"

[Anonymous No.18159523]

>>18159316
>The reading comprehension to understand this hurts the slopposters

[Anonymous No.18159533]

>>18159316
That paragraph g you conveniently left out is where the difference is.

[Anonymous No.18159536]

>>18159316
>And no, there isn't a secret footnote in the EU regs
>what are e-numbers

[Anonymous No.18159591]

>>18159316
>except those ingredients exempted by § 101.100
in case someone wants to read it, because i dont

https://www.accessdata.fda.gov/scripts/cdrh/cfdocs/cfcfr/cfrsearch.cfm?fr=101.100

[Anonymous No.18159602]

>>18157576
>fries have hydrogenated trans-fatty oil and natural beef flavor
fuck....
looks like I can't eat them anymore...

[Anonymous No.18159625]

>>18157590
call the tranny janny a subhuman mulatto spix and "he" will seethe for the next week and ban half the thread.
It simply hits too close to home.

[Anonymous No.18159647]

>>18157576

[Anonymous No.18159655]

>>18159647
so genuine question:
do people here actually think there is some grand conspiracy to poison everyone with cheap oils? or do you think it's just because these shit oils are cheap as fuck and makes them the most money?
or both?

[Anonymous No.18159746]

>>18159028
Fun fact: people that say fun fact are fucking faggots that have nothing interesting to say

[Anonymous No.18159758]

>>18157576
RAPE SEED

I am triggered

[Anonymous No.18159769]

Stop asking funny questions goyim. Here take your happy pills and oh look there’s a big juicy cheeseburger over there, better grab it while it’s fresh!

[Anonymous No.18159858]

>>18159533
...the rules for labelling dietary supplements?

[Anonymous No.18159890]

>Germanfag got BTFO in his own thread
Lol, best /ck/ threads

[Anonymous No.18159900]

>>18157783

[Anonymous No.18159988]

>>18159591
Oh no no no Eurosisters...

[Anonymous No.18160064]

>>18157576
It’s as “good” for you as sugar is.
>>18157773
Because one is a sweetener and the other is a thickener. “Corn syrup” is just liquid corn starch. It is entirely different from HFCS.

“High” and “corn” are scary words to euros, which is why the EU is fine with it as long as it’s labeled “Glucose-fructose syrup”.

[Anonymous No.18160091]

>>18157576
>>18157590
>>18158062
>the label says it doesn't contain poison

[Anonymous No.18160092]

>>18158388
>The "France version" is labeling their Corn Syrup / HFCS as "Sugar"
>>18160064
You understand we just don't have as much corn derived sugar over here? We get it from beets and shit, it's not because corn freaks us out or something.

[Anonymous No.18160112]

>>18159316
Holy shit you are the stupidest motherfucker on this board right now.
Imagine googling that and thinking “well this is the law. I read the law. This is what it is.”
You have about 5000 more pages to read, staring with how “ingredients” are defined for the purpose of said regs.

[Anonymous No.18160121]

>>18159655
It’s just a handful of dedicated shitposting schizos. Calling them “people” is very generous of you.

[Nikocado No.18160124]

>>18159655
Cheap shit oil peddled by burger government to offload corn and soy crops. They probably know it's unhealthy but don't give a shit since it's massively profitable.

[Anonymous No.18160125]

>>18160112
Cope, that's just what lawyers say to justify their rates and long hours. Sometimes legislation really is crystal clear. And no, you don't have to read "5,000 pages" to find out one specific thing, at worse you have to jump between two or three sections that reference one another.

[Anonymous No.18160127]

>>18160112
Yeah, I'm really gonna post a thousand pages of legislation in a 4chan comment. US federal and EU regs are literally based on the same source, they're just worded and ordered slightly differently and the US set is way more autistic about label graphic design. If there's such a glaring difference why don't you post it?

[Anonymous No.18160144]

The very words "high fructose corn syrup" disgust me, because it represents a company that's willing to cut whatever corners possible. It's why I just drink mexican sodas.

[Anonymous No.18160154]

>>18160144
>mmm, glucose-fructose... much healthier!

[Anonymous No.18160163]

>>18160144
>In 2013, a Mexican Coca-Cola bottler announced it would stop using cane sugar in favor of glucose-fructose syrup.
Oh, no, no, no, retardbros...

[Anonymous No.18160171]

>>18160163
You're actually retarded.
I drink Jarritos and other random brands I find at the local mexican market.

[Anonymous No.18160189]

>>18160171
>36g added sugar
¡Que buenos son!

[Anonymous No.18160262]

>>18160092
>You understand we just don't have as much corn derived sugar over here? We get it from beets and shit
Of course. But that isn’t what’s expressed by 98% of euros on this board. It would seem it’s “common knowledge” that corn syrup is banned by benevolent caring EU politicians, rather than simply being a simple matter of domestic economics.

[Anonymous No.18160278]

>>18160125
>you don’t have to read the rules to know the rules
Okay zoomcunt.
>>18160127
>I’m not going to prove my point
>You prove me wrong!
You didn’t post a point though. You read a paragraph and decided you understood the subject.

[Anonymous No.18160293]

>>18158062
>>Not legally required to show all ingredients in EU countries, Australia, etc
kek you are an asshole Read and understand the list of ingredients
This list, which itemises the components used in the food’s manufacture that are still present in the finished product (agricultural raw materials, spices, additives, etc.), is an important source of information for people who need to monitor their diet or who have allergies or intolerances to certain products. The Regulation specifies the substances and products causing allergies or intolerances that must be highlighted in the list of ingredients, for example using specific colours for the printing characters.

sauce https://www.anses.fr/en/content/labelling-information-protects-consumer

[Anonymous No.18160303]

>>18160278
Cope
I work with legislation every day and correctly surmise specific rules about subjects. I've never been wrong and I haven't actually "read" acts and regulations in years. I go in, ctrl+f, jump between a few sections, that's it. 15 minutes max.

[Anonymous No.18160312]

General food labelling is mandatory and must comply with the European regulation on food information to consumers. This Regulation, which aims to ensure a high level of protection of consumer health and interests, determines the information that must appear on packaging. The list of mandatory information includes:

the identity of the commodity (trade name, list of ingredients, country of origin, etc.);
how it should be used (use-by date, preparation instructions, etc.);
its nutritional characteristics.

[Anonymous No.18160327]

>>18160293
>meanwhile here in Kiwiland
Mmmm... Yummy 105d... Oh, and 338! Like mum always used! And it even has FLAVOUR!
You need a fucking encyclopedia to decipher some of these fucking ingredient lists meant not to "dissuade consumers from safe ingredients".

[Anonymous No.18160329]

>>18157590
Whoever the mod is on this board must have the most painful constipation of all time. The literal retard bans for the most harmless shit. It's fucking stupid.

[Anonymous No.18160342]

>>18160278
You're the one that's claiming some mythical difference. I'd even be tempted to agree with you if you were arguing about enforcement.

[Anonymous No.18160348]

>>18160327
Food acid 338.. what kind of vegetable is that again?

[Anonymous No.18160361]

>>18160348
It's got phosphorus in it. Gotta be healthy. Need that phos; it's an electrolyte.

[Anonymous No.18160397]

>>18160361
Thx bro, I'm going to drink two liters a day from now on!

[Anonymous No.18160404]

I want to make the American food situation better so fucking bad. We could do so much better, but I swear everytime someone brings it up on this board the boomers and cross board tourists get so livid. Why are they so defensive of eating literal garbage? They post china webms like that makes me feel any better. This shit is making normies and good natured american retards sick and fat. And worst of all, it makes our food taste worse. Our base staples, like fucking BREAD, are fucked with sugar and corn syrup. Corn is unavoidable. Can we fix it?

[Anonymous No.18160412]

>>18157602
Corn lobby Jews + Corn farmers are unstoppable, do not fuck with them

[Anonymous No.18160440]

>>18160327
Look, nobody voluntarily admits they've been coerced into shopping at Pak'n'save. Now, I'm not reporting you to the local commissar just yet (Trev's having his nap), but you delete this post, alright?

[Anonymous No.18161728]

bump

[Anonymous No.18162401]

>>18160404
abolish corn subsidies. we pay an absolute fuckton of our tax money to subsidize corn to make it cheap, which in practice just makes high fructose corn syrup cheap, which makes it the most profitable to shove into all food as a sweetener. corn subsidies might as well be obesity subsidies and free paychecks to soda manufacturers

[Anonymous No.18162436]

>>18160404
Fuck you you fucking bitch I'm going to eat french fries and burgers slathered in mayo and there's fucking nothing you can do about it and if you try to touch my shit I will beat you to death with my ham fists.

[Anonymous No.18162477]

>Rapeseed oil
If you aren't Rapemaxxing then NGMI

[Anonymous No.18162623]

>>18162477
wtf is this real?

[Anonymous No.18162674]

>>18158370

Fuck off kike

You ADL faggots dont belong here

[Anonymous No.18162700]

>>18158062
>he thinks the histrionic nannystates are extra lenient with food for some reason

[Anonymous No.18162843]

>>18160404
It's not because there is an issue in the USA, it's because fags pretend it's the only place with similar issues and somehow Europe isn't facing the same shit. Then they get proven wrong and have bitch fits
They flat out will allow inedible plastics in their chocolates in Europe it's fucking insane

[Anonymous No.18162904]

>>18157598
Shitty quality

[Anonymous No.18162937]

>>18160327
Its basic science.

[Anonymous No.18163012]

>>18158266
Cope, seethe and dilate

[Anonymous No.18163467]

>>18157576
https://youtu.be/p7v6ps9VbZo
Unironically refute these, Americhokes

[Anonymous No.18163503]

>>18163467
>American food is full of food dye
>food dye causes ADHD
This is starting to add up

[Anonymous No.18163520]

>>18163467
Fucking hell. I was wondering why when I went to America so much food tasted "wrong" like the chicken, eggs and milk. Probably because it's covered chlorine, food dye, and brain damaging nerve gas. This video makes me sad. If I were American I would be scared to feed my kids anything

[Anonymous No.18163528]

>>18157576
you're tellin me bongistans fastfood is healthier than ours and they're STILL getting fat?

[Anonymous No.18163562]

>>18163467
>IT'S THE LABELLING LAW!!!
Why can't they admit they're being poisoned

[Anonymous No.18163793]

>>18163562
American exceptionalism is main character syndrome on a country wide scale.

[Anonymous No.18165680]

>>18159655
Seed oils are cheap to mass produce and have a long shelf life. This is why they're pushed so hard. That they have negative health consequences is irrelevant to companies who just want to make money and governments who take underhand payments to ignore said health consequences. Not a conspiracy, just assholes who don't give a fuck.