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Why does milk have to be pasteurized? Cant I just drink it fresh from the udder?

>> No.18142425

why are cats so cute

>> No.18142427

>>18142423
Germ theory is fake. You can drink that shit

>> No.18142428

>>18142423
That cat is gonna shit itself.

>> No.18142457

>>18142423
it keeps longer when you pasteurize it, but if you live next to a farm and can buy fresh from the farmer then there's no need to as long as you store the milk in a cool place and use it in 1-2 days.

>> No.18142472

>>18142423
It caused a LOT of food poisoning in the past before of the slow speed of distribution. You can still get it if you live close to a farmer.

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>> No.18142617

As someone who works in cheese production. It's because raw milk has the right conditions for growing bacteria, and given the fact that most milk is industrially produced (milked en-masse in small enclosures with poor hygiene), there are plenty of opportunities for bacterial infections to happen.

If you're going to get an infection it's from the cow's teat usually covered in cow shit. Not only that, farmers who are using grains and so on to feed their cows during pasture are mostly using spent grains from breweries which is what was historically done. Spent grains have little nutritional value and don't do anything for the quality of milk. I'm not too sure on the science of this but apparently food nutrition does have some affect on warding an animal away from disease, but I think it comes down to how the cows are fed which is spent grains and food given in enclosed areas just harbors more bacteria overall. Industrial milking just isn't great for raw milk because of the potential for harmful bacteria.

If you are going to try raw milk, high pressure density processing is non-heated pasteurisation where it does preserve the flavours and nutritional proteins in raw milk. If you are going to try raw milk from a farm, then you should at least see how they operate where the cows are out on the fields eating grass and other vegetation, and farmers are testing their milk for bacterial infection.

>> No.18142621

>>18142472
>It caused a LOT of food poisoning
Not true

>> No.18142703

>>18142423
Don't do this. The FDA will raid your house and shoot your dogs.

>> No.18142738 [DELETED] 

There are two reason fresh milk is banned.
1. farmers/companies that stored the fresh milk too long and still sold it
2. retard consumers that stored the milk too long

It's always jews and retards that ruin a good thing

>> No.18142756

>>18142617
>Industrial milking just isn't great for raw milk because of the potential for harmful bacteria.
the tits get disinfected and cleaned before getting hooked up.
>but the mexicans
in the "evil" large scale operations this is done by a robot, no human laziness factor involved.
Pasteurizing is necessary due to all the milk getting collected and stored in large vessels. a single drop of contaminated milk can waste a 5000 gallon truck load.

>> No.18142759

>>18142427
Here's a prime example of Brandolini's Law

>> No.18142785

>>18142423
Milk is harvested from several cows, it's then mixed together and bottled.

If you don't add a pasteurization step before bottling it, you can hurt and kill a lot of people because the milk of ONE sick cow will contaminate the whole batch. That actually happened a lot in the past, pneumonia and stuff like that being spread though milk.

That being said, you can drink milk straight from the cow if you are sure the cow is healthy and the milk has been well kept.

I have a milk woman farmer who sells me raw milk that I sometimes use to make cheese, but I suspect she waters the milk down a bit to make it stretch, because raw milk is really fatty and sort of thick, and hers is similar to UHT milk. I know it's fresh, but it's just not totally milk.

>> No.18142792

>>18142423
Dad's a former dairy farmer. Wouldn't touch raw milk. Said a lot of milk has pus in it.

>> No.18142840
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>>18142759
>Broccolini's Law
That making a vegetable smaller also makes it more delicious? Also known as the petit-pois theory of veggiliciousness.

>> No.18142847

I can buy raw milk from the store at my corner. I only bought it once because I wanted the glass bottle.

>> No.18142986

>>18142423
you can, but you don't. you buy it from the store which is not fresh from the udder. it's days old and you probably want to keep it even longer

>> No.18143031

>>18142427
How fake? I have seen them with my eyes.

>> No.18143070

>>18142423
Yeah of course. Maybe clean the nipple off first though. I used to get raw milk from my Amish neighbors. Good times

>> No.18143079

>>18143031
What you saw were simulation projections

>> No.18143083

>>18142423
Because they combine the milk from 1000 different cows into one huge container, so if even one of them were contaminated now the whole batch is fucked.

If your neighbor is a rural farmer with a few healthy cows and you go get milk from one of them, the risk profile is vastly less than if you went to a random industrial lot and started drinking from the unpasteurized vat

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>>18142423
I found a hookup and would buy raw milk and cream from there all the time when I was in the city. It was some Amish place and the cashiers would show me pics of the farm and the jugs even had the feed rations on it (the cows were fed 2% grain, presumably only when they were milked) You could actually taste the grass in the milk. It was actually really good.

Pic rel was raw cream. Was thick and sweet as hell. Still trying to find a raw dairy hookup in the country. If I wasnt giga hermit mode I'm sure I'd have found a source by now

>> No.18143086

>>18143083
I used to buy raw goat milk quite a bit. Came from a smallish farm, high quality stuff. I drank it every day for years with zero problems.

>> No.18143104

>>18143031
freemasons run the country!

>> No.18143107

>>18142427
No. Yes

>> No.18143148

>>18142423
Keeps longer. You can drink it raw if you trust the farm. You can eat pretty much any meat raw as well if you trust the source

>> No.18143151

>>18142785
Cows can't spread pneumonia through milk wtf are you spewing

>> No.18143175

>>18142617
Thank you, very informative!

>> No.18143274

>>18143085
I've never been able to find raw cow milk from a local source. Goat milk was easy to find though. it's fucking delicious and makes great cheese.

>> No.18143367

>>18142423
>2cats1teet.webm

>> No.18143712

>>18142423
The thing is that factory farms often have extremely cruel & unsanitary conditions where feces is spread around and cows develop infections in their udders. They absolutely need to pasteurize that milk for it to be consumable. But your own cow or a local farm's cows that you know are clean? That's perfectly safe to drink raw.

>> No.18143719

>>18142472
The reason pasteurization was developed was because the early factory-style farms of the 20th century were selling dangerous, bacteria-filled milk. Some were even diluting it with chemicals to save costs. It caused a scare that made the public think raw milk was inherently unsafe.

>> No.18143722

>>18142423
You sure can buddy! Just go right ahead and quench your thirst! Don't hesitate, it's completely safe!

>> No.18143791

>>18142617
As someone who drinks and eats raw milk/cheese on a daily basis: find someone who produces milk and milk products the right way. Fuck these lazy, greedy bastards.

>> No.18143858

>>18142423
>Cant I just drink it fresh from the udder?
We did it for centuries and I did it myself my entire childhood at the farm.
I'm still alive btw.

>> No.18143861

>>18142423
They do it to disguise the goyslop as safe edible food.

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>>18142423

>> No.18144096

>>18143791
>find someone who produces milk
Has anyone made cheese out of breastmilk?
How does it taste?

>> No.18144742

>>18143791

Yeah I think that's the way, you need a good producer who knows what they are doing.

>> No.18144868

>>18142423
It has a lot to do with the diet and living conditions of the animal. In Elaine Khosrova’s book “Butter” she explains the transition from local, grass-fed, pasture raised, small farm dairy cows to feed-lot, silage-fed mass operations has destroyed the safety of raw dairy products for consumption. Governments will tell you it is pasteurized for safety, which at this point it really is, but it is also to justify the use of cheaper, less nutritious, fermented feed like silage.

Silage fed cattle have something like ~75% (don’t remember exact number) more chance creating contaminated milk than grass fed animals.

Also, as others have pointed out, all the milk gets mixed up so one animal can contaminate the whole batch, and pasteurized milk keeps longer for transport/distribution.

If you want to eat/drink raw dairy, find a local farmer who takes care of his animals and feeds them grass, let’s them out to pasture, and understands what a terroire is.

>> No.18144880

>>18142423
Someone should show this to the people that say humans are the only mammals that drink milk after infancy. The reason we do is because we have the ability to get it. You make it available to animals and they gladly drink it as well.

>> No.18144896

>>18144880
See >>18143863

>> No.18145025

>>18142423
i wish i had a girl with that level of production.

>> No.18145191

>>18143791
>see
>>18142756
and stop being a schizo piece of shit

>> No.18145196

>>18143151
retard

>> No.18145433

>>18142423
TB for the most part though that's rare nowadays. I grew up on my Uncle's farm and drank straight from the teat for my first 6 years. I have a 8.6x6.4in cock. Make your own conclusions.

>> No.18145440

>>18143031
no you saw them through a microscope, not your eyes, and you trust those scientists?

>> No.18145451

>>18142423
>fresh from the udder
Yeah as long as the udder's clean. That shit goes bad real fast, though.

>> No.18145454

>>18145433
Unfathomably based

>> No.18145456

>>18142423
Raw milk can kill you and pasteurized milk can cause homosexuality, so pick your poison

>> No.18145488

>>18145433
>baby dick faggots drinks milk
I have a 9.3x7.2 in cock and I'm lactose intolerant.
Make your own conclusions.

>> No.18145942

>>18142423
I've had it once, it tastes more creamy like cream cheese.
I heard in europe they pasteurize their milk so much they don't keep it in the fridge at the market.

>> No.18146217

>>18142423
You CAN, but you'll be potentially exposing yourself to listeria, campylobacter, cryptosporidium, and E. coli.

>> No.18146279

>>18145488
Prove it

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>>18145942
You are probably thinking of ultra high temperature (UHT) pasteurized milk; while its maybe a bit more common in Europe than the US, UHT milk is easy to find in burger land. Pic related is from Walmart's website, for example. Euros also have the normally pasteurized milk in fridges all over as well. UHT milk honestly does not taste as good as normal milk, but is real handy for camping trips.

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>>18142423

>> No.18146462

>>18142423
Americans are scared of anything natural.

>> No.18146675

>>18142423
This is giving me a boner, anyone have pics of catgirls drinking from cowgirl udders?

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>>18143863

>> No.18147276

As has been said, raw milk is dangerous because of bacteria, but also because it contains a shitload of hormones and even specifically engineered microscopic capsules that can transport stuff through the blood brain barrier directly into your brain. Raw milk is not just some food or mere calories, it is more like a drug cocktail. Boiling the milk destroys all that stuff though. There was an article on that just two or three days ago on the German WeLT newsportal.

>> No.18147291

>>18147276
>raw milk is dangerous because of bacteria, but also because it contains a shitload of hormones and even specifically engineered microscopic capsules that can transport stuff through the blood brain barrier directly into your brain
Why do you believe this?


While also believing
>Boiling the milk destroys all that stuff though

that would imply boiling water always works and would get rid of everything, why do filters exist?

>> No.18147302

>>18147276
Here:
https://www.welt.de/politik/deutschland/plus190797629/Ernaehrungswissenschaftler-Milch-ist-ein-hochbrisanter-Cocktail.html

>> No.18147503

>>18147276
>shitload of hormones
FREE STEROIDS LET'S GOOOOOO

>> No.18147742

>>18147276
>specifically engineered microscopic capsules that can transport stuff through the blood brain barrier directly into your brain.
I told you the aliens were here, they control us man.