/ck/ - Food & Cooking

[Anonymous No.18117494]

European bros... how are we going to cook this winter? I'm thinking of switching to an electric stove before people start panic buying when gas prices skyrocket.

[Anonymous No.18117504]

take the khazan pill

[Anonymous No.18117506]

>>18117504
How do I do this in apartment

[Anonymous No.18117591]

>>18117494
How much energy does an electric or induction stove typically consume a day (for 1 person, I'm an incel)? By my calculations, I could use 1.3 kWh a day for the same price I'm paying for gas (current prices). In other words I could cook something on a 1000 W electric stove top for 1.3 hours, which sounds like a lot and I would probably use way less energy than that. Come to think of it, maybe I should have switched to electric a long time ago.

If my other calculations are correct for easy comparison, 1.3 kWh equals to the energy required to heat and boil 2.07 kg of water from 20 °C.

[Anonymous No.18117598]

>>18117494
You mean electric like in the picture or induction.
I would advise against induction.

[Anonymous No.18117601]

>>18117598
I specifically said
>electric or induction
because I assumed they consume roughly the same energy, but I could be wrong. I just remembered that induction stoves have only slightly better efficiency.

[Anonymous No.18117608]

Don't you guys have induction?

[Anonymous No.18117618]

>>18117506
drill a hole in your ceiling and gas your upstairs neighbour

[Anonymous No.18117621]

>>18117601
I'm not sure about energy but induction is not good for your food. Harder to cook and burns the food a lot.

[Anonymous No.18117624]

>>18117608
Yeah but they're not that different in terms of efficiency. Basically they're both between 70% and 80%, while gas is 40%, which should also be accounted for in price calculations.

[Anonymous No.18117626]

Dude fuck off. Imagine explaining your position to a Ukrainian.

[Anonymous No.18117630]

>>18117591
way off. 0.38 kWh would boil 2.07 kg water from 20 C
also a 1000 W stove only consumes 1000 W when it's on full power, so you would probably run it on half of that most of the time after the initial boiling. with that being said, I have no idea how it compares to gas

[Anonymous No.18117636]

>>18117494
don't make any major purchases like a whole new stove, but getting an induction and maybe portable electric and/or gas cooktop wouldn't be a turrible idea.

sadly the only way to stop all this nonsense is to intervene and end the war.

[Anonymous No.18117644]

>>18117626
>People are dying for nothing because the whole world is spending billions to keep the war going.
I think everyone secretly hates Ukraine.

[Anonymous No.18117646]

>>18117494
If your country uses gas turbines for power generation then its not going to matter, prices of electric will go up too.

[Anonymous No.18117650]

>>18117591
If you want to save as much money as possible then you should get an electric pressure cooker like an instant pot, it cooks food faster since its under pressure and it doesn’t use continuous electricity, once it gets up to temp it only occasionally uses electricity to maintain temp.

[Anonymous No.18117667]

>>18117630
>0.38 kWh would boil 2.07 kg water from 20 C
Huh?

Water specific heat capacity = 4.184 kJ/(kg·K)
Energy required to heat up from 20 to 100 °C = 4.184 / (2.07 * 80) = 0.0252 kJ (negligible)
Water latent heat of vaporization = 2257 kJ/kg
Energy required to vaporize 2.07 kg of water = 4672 kJ
4672 kJ = 1.3 kWh

0.38 kWh would only boil away 0.61 kg

[Anonymous No.18117676]

>>18117667
I didn't think you meant to boil it off completely, just bring it to boiling. why would you use that as an example, that's not useful?

[Anonymous No.18117679]

>>18117676
I don't know, the other day I left like a liter of water boiling and forgot about it and when I came back to the kitchen at least an hour later it was all gone. I know it's not a very useful metric.

[Anonymous No.18117685]

>>18117679
well, if you're looking to save costs maybe you should do some reflecting on that neglective behavior first

[Anonymous No.18117712]

>>18117626
>1°C colder
Probably 10°C colder and factories halted if blackouts are to be expected according to the ENTSO-E.

[Anonymous No.18117718]

>>18117644
Yes I agree, Jeremy here from New York Oblast, supplying Ukraine with weapons is of a crime against people

[Anonymous No.18117745]

>>18117712
>at least we’re punishing Putin

[Anonymous No.18117765]

>>18117626
go back to /pol/ you german schizo

[Anonymous No.18117769]

>>18117494
So glad I live in one of the few places in Europe that isn't at all dependent on Russia

[Anonymous No.18117776]

>>18117494
do you cook on gasoline?

[Anonymous No.18118011]

>>18117608
this, shit costs 20 yurobucks

[Anonymous No.18118017]

>>18117494
Imagine thinking you'll have electricity lol

[Anonymous No.18118057]

>>18117494
buy an instantpot and 20 minute rice becomes 3 minutes, 8hr stew becomes 1hr, 1hr soup becomes 15 minutes, cheaper cuts of meat become tender

[Anonymous No.18118084]

>>18117494
As a guy living in basically eastern europe I have a tzarist way of survival
>boils water that can be used for tea, soup, clear water, warm baths etc
>can be fueled by fucking pines
>looks awsome

[Anonymous No.18118089]

>>18117506
>apartment
Hahah typical citycuck euro

[Anonymous No.18118091]

>>18117494
i don't care, where i live almost everyone use electric and inductions, under 10% use gas, the problem is going to be house heating, but is not like is very cold here.
>>18117626
you can spot the NPCs really fast, support the current thing

[Anonymous No.18118184]

>>18117630
>so you would probably run it on half of that most of the time after the initial boiling
MY IKEA Tillreda induction hob can keep a large 1 gallon pot of potatoes at a simmer with just 100W on the lowest setting after everything has been fully heated up. If you wrap the pot in a towel even a much larger volume can be kept at a simmer with 100W.

[Anonymous No.18118206]

Copy Africa.

[Anonymous No.18118271]

>>18118206
Looks like a good camping stove

How do you get it started though. Seems like it would be difficult to get lit.

[Anonymous No.18118278]

>>18118271
you just let the Li-Ion do it's thing

[Anonymous No.18118716]

>>18117506
very carefully

[Anonymous No.18120018]

>>18117626
>OINK OINK
>*SNORT*
>OIIIIIINK!!!

[Anonymous No.18120022]

>>18117745
Except Russia still sells plenty of petroleum products and natural gas to non-embargoing nations for even more money than they did pre-War enough such that their oil/gas trade is more profitable than it was a year ago.

[Anonymous No.18120025]

>>18117494
>when gas prices skyrocket.
kek, you actually think all "gas" is the same.

[Anonymous No.18120032]

>>18120018
>>18118278
Warranty void if used.

[Anonymous No.18120061]

>>18118271
Cow pie or twigs.

[Anonymous No.18120124]

>>18117494
I moved into a place that already had an electric stove in it. I miss gas stoves so much it's fucking unbelievable. Everything feels like it takes twice as long to cook, it's harder to control the heat and above all it feels soulless.

[Anonymous No.18120144]

>>18117626
>tfw you could have won the war but anon didn't want to switch to induction or use a thicker blanket

[Anonymous No.18120173]

>>18117494
If gas prices skyrocket it's still going to be cheaper to cook with gas than electricity. Gas costs like a 3-5 euros a month for me and I cook almost every day. If I did that with electricity the price would quadruple.

[Anonymous No.18120316]

>>18117601
>I just remembered that induction stoves have only slightly better efficiency.
You remembered completely fucking wrong retard

[Anonymous No.18121120]

>>18120316
So you think this entire section from Wikipedia is fake news? >>18117624

[Anonymous No.18121122]

Canadians saved you. Don't forget that.

[Anonymous No.18121152]

>>18117494
You can adjust the height to compensate for the amount of fuel you want in it. I've gotten one to burn for an hour by making one twice as tall and cutting another can as a drop in to cover half the holes.

[Anonymous No.18121869]

>have a gas stove
>landlord pays for gas
Feels good bros

[Anonymous No.18121872]

>>18118271
>Looks like a good camping stove
Not for hiking, thing looks to be at least 15 pounds.

[Anonymous No.18121873]

>>18121869
>having a landlord
>feeling good
pick one

[Anonymous No.18122185]

>>18121869
Are people really stupid enough to sign contracts that don't make renters pay the utilities? Does he pay for power as well? If not start mining fucking buttcorn

[Anonymous No.18122239]

>>18121869
you mean you pay more rent instead

[Anonymous No.18122440]

>>18121152
i made these when i was a teen and needed heat, i also put a lamp under the sheets with me to keep my toes from freezing

[Anonymous No.18122465]

>>18117644
They're our skirmish screen. If Ukraine had been rapidly steamrolled Putin would have been emboldened to push on. He's starting to feel his age and needs as much glory as he can grab before he becomes feeble.

[Anonymous No.18122486]

>>18117601
With induction, you'll likely have to get all brand new cookware, unless you happen to have induction-ready pans. If you can afford that, whatever induction would save you over gas would probably take several years to reclaim the slight difference.

[Anonymous No.18122527]

Friendly reminder that europe is still buying gas and plans to still be buying gas from russia for the duration of this winter at least. The big question is whether russia will actually deliver.

[Anonymous No.18122536]

>>18121120
>Wikipedia
Yes

[Anonymous No.18122551]

>>18122486
>With induction, you'll likely have to get all brand new cookware, unless you happen to have induction-ready pans.

What retard doesn't already own stainless cookware at a bare minimum? Anything ferrous works fine which should be nearly everything a normal person owns. Induction is still shit compared to gas in terms of usability but you don't need to make up retarded scenarios to make a point.

[Anonymous No.18122647]

Time time to hoard propane

[Anonymous No.18122710]

>>18117591
>I could use 1.3 kWh a day
fairly accurate frog, but it's usually less than that
I spend ~1kWh to make dinner using an induction stove and I cook enough to eat 2-3 times

[Anonymous No.18122735]

>>18122551
>I have multiple sets of cookware in all styles and materials, as does everyone; and I know everything there is to know about cooking, so please answer my question about cooking.
Since OP stated he might be impacted by gas shortages, we'll assume he's not made of money. Most people tend to have basic stuff. That means likely aluminium, so no retarded scenario made up here; but rather, a likely one. Average-tier bait.

[Anonymous No.18122841]

>>18122185
I pay power and wifi, they pay everything else. It's because it's a condo building, so water heat and gas are bundled into the condo fee which is the responsibility of the owner. Pretty common in my city.

[Anonymous No.18122853]

>>18122841
So you can use all the water, gas and heat you want without paying extra? Sounds sweet.

[Anonymous No.18122859]

>>18122735
If he's too retarded to own at least a shitty set of cheap stainless pans he's too retarded for me to give a shit what he buys

[Anonymous No.18122937]

>>18117591
My induction stove from ikea has the largest spot at 3.6k I think. It takes around 10m to boil a large pot of water.

[Anonymous No.18122955]

>>18122853
Usually heating is automated in such systems, tied to outside temps.

[Anonymous No.18122989]

>>18117494
What if the electricity goes out as well

[Anonymous No.18123047]

>>18118091
Kek, this image..

[Anonymous No.18123290]

>I moved out because of my retarded housemates scratching my pans and clogging up the kitchen
>brand new apartment, should be good
>mfw induction
>it boils two seconds, then cancels three seconds, and so forth
>the company from the induction plate says it's normal
>all my joy of cooking has disappeared