/ctg/ - Coffee Time General

[Anonymous No.17700743]

sus edition

Decanted through melodrip: >>17675102

[Anonymous No.17700766]

Confession to Father RoastJack:

Bless me father for I have sinned
I have eschewed the modern ashtetics of coffee production and I drink Gevalia house blend exclusively out of a 12 cup mr coffee. When I need iced coffee I make double strength brew and put it in the fridge. I know this is unworthy and I am lower than the bottom of a french press and feel smaller than a wee tiny coffee cup in an italian espresso bar

[Anonymous No.17700779]

>>17700766

[Anonymous No.17700816]

>>17700766
You are forgiven my son. Sacrifice and pennence must be made for time. It is the way of the common wagie. So long as you don't succumb to the evil ways that is the pod coffee, in any of its various names it appears, Hoffman will smile upon you.

[Anonymous No.17700836]

>>17700816
I will try to do better father. I wash my Mr. Coffee with kosheer salt and use a baby brush on the basket to keep it clean. Occasionally I will praise Jah with a Coffee Time Speedball, Cone of Weed and a Large Drip as is the way of our Seattle prophets.

And to make it worse I actually prefer trad roast but it's hard to find.

[Anonymous No.17700854]

Which one is your favorite?

[Anonymous No.17700862]

>>17700854
Seems like something my Bong uncle would own

[Anonymous No.17700864]

>>17700854
the one who looks like he's smelling a cupped spell

I like to go to the thrift store and buy those 50cent mugs and just treat them like they are semi disposeable

[Anonymous No.17700874]

>>17700854
toby jugs for zoomerts

[Anonymous No.17700891]

>>17700874
>>17700864
>>17700862

They're actually a pharmaceutical advertising mug from actos pharmaceutical. Pharma mugs are cool.

[Anonymous No.17700905]

>>17700864
Post your sussiest thrift store mugs

[Anonymous No.17700926]

My V60 with my Ethiopian beans will arrive today.
Which following recipe should I follow as starter?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P0mI6Ue8BKc

[Anonymous No.17700943]

>>17700926
Melodrip

[Anonymous No.17700968]

>>17700905
Im away from my desk but I've got a Battle of Pilot Knob one with the respective flags on it, "Jogging Hound" snoopy from the 80s, a 2001 Tenesee Titans AFC Championship mug

[Anonymous No.17700997]

[Anonymous No.17701010]

>>17700926
>>17700943

[Anonymous No.17701056]

>>17701010
Who wouldn't want their pourovers to look like this? Why does only one person in all of /ctg/ recognize its brilliance?

[Anonymous No.17701123]

Yes hello? Is this the meeting place of the aeropress gang?

[Anonymous No.17701203]

>>17700836
My parents drink the dark one, so that's honestly not too bad. The dark one is just so acrid. I get cheap aldi breakfast roast coffee to drink at their house.

[Anonymous No.17701224]

Sam's club now has whole bean dark roast columbian supremo. Poorfags rejoice.

[Anonymous No.17701237]

>>17701224
>dark roast columbian

[Anonymous No.17701244]

I drink dark roast community coffee out of a keurig ask me anything

[Anonymous No.17701302]

>>17701237
he said columbian not italian.

[Anonymous No.17701382]

AEROPRESS fuckin GANG
>>17701123
Nope

[Anonymous No.17701455]

>go to buy pie
>see slice of blueberry pie sitting in the front of the rack
>ask for the slice of blueberry
>"All of these pies are peach, we don't have any blueberry, just peach"
>there are very clearly at least 6 different varieties of pie in the case including the blueberry that I am still looking at
>okay give me peach then
>take pie home and put it in refrigerator since I like pie cold
>hours later take pie out to eat
>it's apple
Coffee brewing methods for this feel?

[Anonymous No.17701760]

>>17701455
Drip coffee. Drink straight out of carafe

[Anonymous No.17701927]

>>17701760
Aeropress into mouth.
httrt

[Anonymous No.17701949]

>>17701927
No thanks, I don't want to become a woman

[Anonymous No.17702246]

Just use my aeropress for the first time
Coming from moka pot it tastes like coffee favored water in comparision
Am I doing it wrong?

Used one scoop and filled up to number 1

[Anonymous No.17702313]

>>17702246
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j6VlT_jUVPc&list=PLxz0FjZMVOl2858ytsWi9DH8NUKAz4nvl&index=3

did you follow this guide?

[Anonymous No.17702316]

>>17702313
>coffeetuber tutorials

[Anonymous No.17702343]

>>17702316
>asks for help
>gets help
>rejects help because its in a medium he doesnt like for objectively dogshit reasons.

classic. enjoy your aeropiss.

[Anonymous No.17702366]

>>17702313
Thanks going to try a finer grind and filled up to 3 next time

>>17702343
That wasn't me.

[Anonymous No.17702386]

>>17702366
>That wasn't me.
sorry. its impossible to know.

[Anonymous No.17702402]

>>17702343
Fuck your faggy coffeetuber bullshit, why should I listen to the advice of a retard who can only do whatever coffeetubers tell him to do? >>17702366
isn't me by the way

[Anonymous No.17702411]

>>17700743
i dont drink coffee.

[Anonymous No.17702412]

I only drink instant coffee

[Anonymous No.17702413]

>>17702402
so you think learning from others is faggy. i guess im talking to a pre-school drop out then.

[Anonymous No.17702424]

>>17702411
>>17702412
The duality of man

[Anonymous No.17702432]

>>17702413
>so you think learning from others is faggy
Yes. Like all of the stuff that you learned from your uncle when he forced you to play the special game with him in your basement when you were 7 years old. That shit was pretty faggy. No wonder you turned out to be a faggot.

[Anonymous No.17702445]

>>17702432
seems i have been baited. good game.
i think the lads in the tea general are closer to your age range.

[Anonymous No.17703217]

>>17701123
She almost looks like female Hoffman

[Anonymous No.17703221]

>>17701123
'tis!

[Anonymous No.17703294]

>>17703221
Perfect representation of aeropressers. Flagrantly austisic, flagrantly gay, and woman.

[Anonymous No.17703298]

>>17703217
She checks all three boxes.

[Anonymous No.17703372]

>>17703294
>austisic
Fuck he's slovok not aussie the joke doesn't work

[Anonymous No.17703538]

Even the best coffee acidity still tastes like you're vomiting all those fruits and florals. I think I've made a mistake with espresso

[Anonymous No.17703541]

wut

[Anonymous No.17703545]

>>17703538
Pull turbos.

[Anonymous No.17703554]

For me? It’s pressure profiling.

[Anonymous No.17703558]

>>17703545
Cleaning up after a turbo fills me up with doom and spouts are lame.
I think I pulled a great shot, but the fruity flavors reminded me of the time I got very drunk on wine and vomited on the floor...
Wine-like astringency and flavor, but going the other way through your palate

[Anonymous No.17703561]

jannies are asleep, post coffee frogs.

[Anonymous No.17703570]

>>17703558
Actually when I think about it it kinda makes sense because the cuppa still had some bitterness and it reminded me of stomach bile
bleh, even though I mostly got it right. Just bleh

[Anonymous No.17703648]

>>17703561

[Anonymous No.17704023]

Are there any good places to find deals on secondhand machines?

[Anonymous No.17704027]

>>17700743
Hey that mug looks like amongus

[Anonymous No.17704282]

Are there any good places to find deals on secondhand tweed? I've got an event coming up.

[Anonymous No.17704358]

>>17703648

[Anonymous No.17704380]

>>17704358

[Anonymous No.17704390]

[Anonymous No.17704539]

It’s on

[Anonymous No.17704550]

>>17704539
I wish I had gotten the Flair 58. The signature's non-standard grinds basket frustrates me

[Anonymous No.17704576]

>>17704550
i notice there is flex of the whole unit causing pic related

[Anonymous No.17704582]

>>17704576
maybe… could just be physics

[Anonymous No.17704692]

>>17704576
>>17704582
No there's definitely a little pitch forward. I mentioned it here a while ago. It s h o u l d n 't be affecting an even extraction but who knows. I cut a few pieces of dycem to raise the front foot a few mm, seems to be better now compared to the webm but I cbf taking a new video to actually check.

[Anonymous No.17704701]

>>17700854
they made merch for sausage party?

[Anonymous No.17704751]

There's no reason a grinder should cost more than $30.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q1s54zUSJiY

[Anonymous No.17704774]

>>17704692
100% what my pulls look too, seems irrelevant but

[Anonymous No.17704780]

>>17704692
nice focal point, dumbass

[Anonymous No.17704784]

>>17704751
This is coffeeshop stuff, so it makes since it costs multiple thousands

[Anonymous No.17704792]

>>17704784
sense*
fuck my face, I'm an esl retard

[Anonymous No.17704797]

Cawfee

[Anonymous No.17704803]

>>17704797
>take picture in portrait mode
>turns itself for no reason
"smart"phones

[Anonymous No.17704834]

I do not put milk, cream or sugar in my coffee. I do not buy specialty brands. I do not believe that coffee should taste good. I believe that coffee should be a challenge. When I wake up in the morning, I consider a large mug of extra strong black coffee to be the first challenge of the day. After I've conquered this challenge, my mindset shifts: with one challenge down, there is an entire day's worth of challenges before me. I must conquer them all. It is when I down a mug of coffee that I answer the constant question: am I to be a wolf or a sheep?

[Anonymous No.17704843]

>>17704780
Turns out front facing cameras propped up on portafilters take shitty videos and don't focus correctly. Who knew? Do you really think you deserve better?
>>17704774
Just buy a roll of this. Super handy.
https://www.amazon.com/Dycem-Non-Slip-Material-Roll-Black/dp/B002WQ7AB2/
>>17704784
I'm memeing, I've got the same burrs coming in the wug. Lance also has a wug coming in the same batch but I think he only got mazzer 83 conical and ssp 83MP flats.

[Anonymous No.17704881]

>I do not put milk, cream or sugar in my coffee

[Anonymous No.17704911]

>>17704834
I do not want runniness, smoothness, or sweetness in my cum. I do not seek watery partners. I do not believe that cum should taste good. I believe that cum should be a challenge. When I wake up in the morning, I consider a large mug of extra strong black cum to be the first challenge of the day. After I've conquered this challenge, my mindset shifts: with one challenge down, there is an entire day's worth of challenges before me. I must conquer them all. It is when I down a mug of cum that I answer the constant question: am I to be a slut or a fucktoy?

[Anonymous No.17704935]

>>17704881
only when I'm at work where they don't have any of that, just coffee

[Anonymous No.17705079]

Today is a good day /ctg/
https://youtu.be/JsaPb3DjIbw

[Anonymous No.17705300]

>>17701123
i rather a vietnamese drip coffee
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sw6jCLKrSi0

[Anonymous No.17705354]

>>17705079
Thanks for this

[Anonymous No.17705417]

>>17705079
Coffees for this feel?
https://youtu.be/mXHKjFKBC0g

[Anonymous No.17705433]

>>17705300
Wait did that guy just say higher agitation led to more bitterness in the cup? Wild concept.
>>17705354
Glad you like it pal. Here's the highest quality digital copy available, off the 5th disc of retro. P rare. 3k cds.
https://www.mediafire.com/file/epg13wmrkhk97dg/09_Elegia_%2528Full_Version%2529.flac/file
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Retro_(New_Order_album)

[Anonymous No.17705448]

>>17705417
Aldi's The One With the Rooster On It Tonic

[Anonymous No.17705450]

>Agitation is.... le bad!

[Anonymous No.17705626]

>Agitation is an often overlooked variable
>Le gasp

[Anonymous No.17705656]

>>17705433
Hell yeah. Thanks!

[Anonymous No.17705943]

>>17704881
i like to froth milk and make cappuccino
and yes i whip the milk by hand.

[Anonymous No.17707180]

>>17700743
Slowly starting to get into coffee.
For the longest time it just tasted like I was licking burnt peanut shells. I'd drink it if it was free but more often like with the random free Monster cans on campus I'd just grab it and give it to a friend. But between Trader Joe's and a few local places I've found some good instant coffee, coldbrew, and coldbrew instant crystals that don't require as much sugar or milk to make it drinkable.
I've also learned that some dark roasts are as smooth as silk, like holy shit this one local frufru coffee brand is really fucking good.
On the flipside I also learned that "green coffee", while it has a similar taste and look to milked tea, makes me as crazy and wired as an energy drink does.

I also discovered teabag coffee is a thing. What the fuck, man?

[Anonymous No.17707192]

>>17702313
Tried this today and it doesn't improve by much
Still taste weak and watery

One thing I notice is the 1/3 of the water already dripped through the filter before the steeping
Is that a indication that my coffee hasnt grinded fine enough?
Or should I use more beans?

I am already using a medium fine setting and one full scoop (11g of beans)

[Anonymous No.17707323]

Is coffee good for you?

[Anonymous No.17707388]

>>17707323
depends

[Anonymous No.17707437]

How do you guys stop Coffee from being so bitter/sour? I use grounded Folgers (yes yes I know) and the coffee, with milk, always comes out very sour. I’ve tried getting new milk and I know it’s not that. Am I putting too much coffee or too little? I put 2 tablespoons per cup

[Anonymous No.17707443]

>>17707192
Brew inverted for the first half of the brew time and then flip it over to brew standard orientation for the remainder.
Less unbrewed liquid dripping through and you'll get additional agitation with the flip.
If too much liquid is still leaking, grind finer and use paper filters if you're currently using a metal mesh filter

[Anonymous No.17707444]

>CIA uses directed energy weapons to give me a migraine again
>Drink coffee
>Headache goes away
Thank you coffee

[Anonymous No.17707445]

>>17707437
Bro you need to make Dalgona

[Anonymous No.17707467]

>>17700743
I buy off brand coffee in a 3 pound tin. My coffee machine makes a gallon at a time. Sunday morning I make a fresh pot and drink 1/3 - 1/2 of it hot. Monday I drink another third lukewarm. Tuesday I drink the rest and top off the old grounds with about 1/4 cup of fresh grounds, and make another pot which lasts me through Thursday. Friday I dump half the grounds and top it back off for another pot which lasts until it's time for a fresh one on Sunday.
In total it's around 3 gallons of coffee per week, but two of those are using half old grounds, so it's more like 2-ish gallons. I genuinely enjoy dirt cheap 3-day old coffee at room temperature almost as much as a hot fresh cup.

[Anonymous No.17707486]

What grinders are we using in here today?

[Anonymous No.17707496]

>>17707486
None of your business

[Anonymous No.17707529]

>>17707437
If you're using a drip coffee maker then the likelihood is that it's a shitty one that either is brewing it too hot or not brewing it hot enough. If it's bitter and astringent it's brewing too hot, if it's sour/acidic it's not brewing hot enough

[Anonymous No.17707534]

>>17707486
kingrinder

[Anonymous No.17707535]

>>17707486
Can't say or it'll cause that one anon to have another schitzo breakdown

[Anonymous No.17707566]

>>17707444
trips of truth

[Anonymous No.17707613]

>>17700997
>so random XD

[Anonymous No.17707615]

>>17700743
Any delectable brews worth trying, preferrably through a turkish grinder?

[Anonymous No.17707618]

>>17707486
Chinese knockoffs obviously.

[Anonymous No.17707644]

>>17707535
heh, well...I won't.
I want one for espresso and coffee but Im a poorfag and am torn between JMAX and JX pro. One produces more fines though, and that would ruin drip coffee. But it has the coated burs and only 8.8 micron clicks instead of 12.5

[Anonymous No.17707748]

>>17707644
Just get the Kingrinder versions for like 60% the price each

[Anonymous No.17707753]

>>17707748
kill yourself

[Anonymous No.17707782]

>>17707753
kek
I looked into his suggestion, the K6 / K4 are almost the same price as the JX Pro but adjustments are 16 or 18 instead of 12.5
Are these people just Kingrinder shills or is it a common meme here?

[Anonymous No.17707783]

>>17707753
Nah, I'll continue to enjoy coffee using my functionally equivalent grinder that cost me a lot less

[Anonymous No.17707803]

>>17707782
Youve fallen for meme marketing if you think adjustment sizes are what to look for in a grinder

[Anonymous No.17707819]

>>17707782
>K6 w/ 16um adjustment $149
>K-Max w/ 22um adjustment $239
Granted, they're not the espresso-tailored versions but the price difference isn't a lie

[Anonymous No.17707822]

>>17707783
>Functionally equivalent grinder
Kingrinder- 16 microns
JX-Pro-12.5 microns
>Cost me a lot less
Kingrinder K6 $149 K4 $139 (Only two with 16 microns, 18 microns for all other models)
JX-Pro $159

[Anonymous No.17707838]

>>17707819
See this for better comparison, I never mentioned K-Max b.s or any K series from them for a reason.
>>17707822

[Anonymous No.17707840]

>>17707822
If you're sweating over a price difference like that you should probably just save your money.

[Anonymous No.17707843]

>>17707840
I think you got confused on the green text part.
My whole point was there was no price difference.
The person I was responding to claimed it "cost a lot less", but that wasn't true as you noted.

[Anonymous No.17707851]

>>17707822
>>17707838
>>17707843
The JX-Pro doesn't use the same burr as the Kingrinder K6 nor the same adjustment system (if you care about that convenience)
The closest equivalent is the K3 (currently $99 on Amazon US) but yes, the size-per-step remains quite different

[Anonymous No.17707864]

>>17707851
Which one wont get led into my grinds? The origins sketch me out on both to be honest..

[Anonymous No.17707868]

>>17707864
They're all made in China so probably all of them

[Anonymous No.17707874]

>>17707868
Yeah that's a hard pass. Im handy enough with the blade grinder, shake/pulse method for the time being.

[Anonymous No.17707886]

>>17707864
Lead is actually more expensive than steel

[Anonymous No.17708269]

>>17704881
>>17705943
that's nice

[Anonymous No.17708378]

>>17707486
Timemore C2, the best value grinder

[Anonymous No.17708392]

>>17707486
My 1zpresso K-max is arriving tomorrow but apparently kingrinder is much better for its value so I probably fucked up

[Anonymous No.17708598]

Make me a cup of coffee, anon.

[Anonymouse No.17708609]

>>17708598
Sure, but I'll have to drink it for you also. Can't send coffee over TCP/IP.

[Anonymous No.17708753]

>>17707486
Comandante mk4 and Kingrinder k1. I need to get a steel mokapot to use the latter again, because turns out Brikka is total shit

[Anonymous No.17709100]

>>17708392
You save $30 by buying a knockoff of a knockoff from the same parent company. How much is your soul worth?

[Anonymous No.17710151]

>>17707486
Unironically a kingrinder k6
Works well enough for my aeropress

[Anonymous No.17710173]

this made for an... interesting mocha. would do again.

[Anonymous No.17710215]

>>17710151
kill yourself

[Anonymous No.17710374]

Should I get an aeropress or aeropress go?

[Anonymous No.17710401]

>>17710374
Both

[Anonymous No.17710438]

>>17710401
Do you know what kingrinders fit in them respectively?

[Anonymous No.17710452]

>>17710438
No but the 'ro 'ress GO is much easier to cram up your ass if it's your first time so I recommend using it to work your way up to the full size model

[Anonymous No.17710573]

these two jokes are overswirled

[Anonymous No.17710601]

>>17710573
People like you have ruined this general fyi.

[Anonymous No.17710602]

>>17710601
Brew some bitterness out of your personality, loser.

[Anonymous No.17710655]

>>17710573
Are you perhaps feeling a bit... agitated?

[Anonymous No.17710688]

>got some good dark roast espresso beans
>got a moka pot
>brewed the beans in the pot
>mfw
I had forgotten what real coffee was after years of just mooching free brews at work.

[Anonymous No.17710708]

>>17710688
>good
>dark roast
Pick one

[Anonymous No.17710955]

When are you going to take the water distiller pill /ctg/?

[Anonymous No.17710961]

>>17710955
I'm fine just using a Brita pitcher for now.

[Anonymous No.17710988]

>>17710601
quit posting this at me coffee jannie

[Anonymous No.17710997]

>>17710173
What, did you just grind it up and brew through it?

[Anonymous No.17711020]

>>17710997
nah I have one of these gimmick pans and it was the right size to make it into a syrup with a single serving of that chocolate. mixed it into a syrup with some sugar and water.
i've tried to brew through it before and that particular chocolate doesn't melt well that way, at least through an aeropress. it became kinda pebbly. maybe it would work with a pourover.

[Anonymous No.17711024]

is Portrait Coffee any good? theyre pretty reasonable for a boutique roaster

[Anonymous No.17711180]

sussy latte of the day

[Anonymous No.17711268]

>>17707486
niche zero
used an option-o manual grinder before which served me very well

[Anonymous No.17711334]

>>17711180
Looks real dry there pal. Happy sippin.

[Anonymous No.17712066]

>>17710708
Dark Sumatra med/fine grind and tamped in my drip basket is the only thing I've drank for a couple years. Different brands, different results. Copper moon gave a chocolate caramel taste to my espresso. I also have to add a bunch of sweet cream because I make it so strong. Once balanced out, there's nothing close. Its like a giant cup of espresso.

[Anonymous No.17713262]

>>17711180
what's that cup?

[Anonymous No.17713359]

Are nespresso pod machines any good or a complete waste of time? Friend is getting rid of his as he's moving away, I've had it once or twice and it's tasted decent

[Anonymous No.17713390]

>>17713359
depends. do you like coffee or "coffee"
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EvMwNnAtTL8

[Anonymous No.17713412]

If I add minerals to deionised water, will it be ok to use? I can’t get distilled water but for some reason deionised water is plentiful, and tap water is hard as fuck.

[Anonymous No.17713538]

>>17713412
Yes.

[Anonymous No.17713583]

>>17707486
Kinu M47p
At some point I will get something motorized but I love the thing.

[Anonymous No.17713643]

bump

[Anonymous No.17713707]

Pullman baskets are it

[Anonymous No.17713715]

>>17713707
Also yes.

[Anonymous No.17713732]

Can anyone recommend a good poorfag espresso machine? Hoping to spend less than 300-400.

[Anonymous No.17713736]

>>17713732
>less than 300-400.
lol

[Anonymous No.17713741]

>>17713732
Best bet is probably a used Gaggia Classic or something similar from Ebay.
Also factor in grinder cost, if you don't already have one.

[Anonymous No.17713790]

>>17713741
These seem like solid suggestions thank you.

[Anonymous No.17713791]

>>17711334
get your eyes checked

[Anonymous No.17713833]

>>17713715
Gonna try the Pullman tamper with basket tomorrow. I understand can be issue after pressure with puck disturbance when removing tamp. I guess a slight spin helps?

[Anonymous No.17713971]

Maybe I just got used to the taste of bitterness, but coffee tasted like nothing today. 20 grams in 1 shot espresso out, and it tastes... inoffensive

[Anonymous No.17713986]

>>17713732
Get a moka pot.

[Anonymous No.17714007]

>>17713732
Flair 58 seems real nice, but it's more like 500

[Anonymous No.17714231]

>>17713732
9barista or flair 58
but you need a good grinder as well, so RIP your budget

[Anonymous No.17714341]

>>17713833
I think that's only with the tighter fitting bigstep. I just have a 58.4mm barista tamper. I'd have gotten the bigstep but I paid like $70 less for mine on sale.

[Anonymous No.17714970]

I've got my chemex bottom filters, I've got my tww espresso inspired water and I'm ready to plow.

[Anonymous No.17715559]

Call me a stereotypical hipster faggot but I really like coconut milk in my coffee. I'm not lactose intolerant or anything, I just think it tastes good.

[Anonymous No.17715766]

>>17713583
>Kinu M47p
I was eyeing that one up. Do you use for espresso and drip ?

[Anonymous No.17715775]

>>17715766
>>17713583
Scratch that. Never mind.

[Anonymous No.17715884]

>>17715775
This is why you buy Kingrinder instead GLORY TO THE PEOPLE'S REPUBLIC OF CHINA

[Anonymous No.17715908]

>>17715766
Have for years. Just order off prima coffee. $199, free shipping.
https://prima-coffee.com/equipment/kinu/m47-phoenix-kinu-sp

[Anonymous No.17716089]

>>17713359
>>17713390
I'm against capsules in principle; checking out the video now..

[Anonymous No.17716162]

>dude just completely fuck up your bed and introduce a new variable from the random displacement caused by this meme device
>it COMPLETELY eliminates agitation because as we all know
>agitation is... le bad!
Do gearqueers really introduce additional variables just to remove one constant? Why are they so autistic and retarded?

[Anonymous No.17716190]

>>17713971
>inoffensive
i hate brews like this. i would rather a bad brew than a boring brew.

[Anonymous No.17716279]

>>17715766
>>17715775
Espresso the majority of the time, occasionally cold brew or french press which it's also done a good job with. I've used the M47 with both a Gaggia Classic and my current nicer machine and have had good results with both, as long as you don't mind the extra work.
If you're willing to abandon your beliefs like a russian crew with a T-80BVM it's a very good product, no idea if the stock situation is as bad as when I got one though.

[Anonymous No.17716303]

>>17716162
Do you think he's taking all 3 gold kettles with him to worlds?

[Anonymous No.17716312]

>>17716303
Obvious pedophile physiognomy. Also why do fags always pour with the offhand on top of the kettle like that

[Anonymous No.17716334]

>>17716312
That guy is the closest thing we have to a gigachad in an industry full of doughboys and pronouns.

[Anonymous No.17716338]

>>17716334
Pic rel.

[Anonymous No.17716626]

>>17716312
>Also why do fags always pour with the offhand on top of the kettle like that
I never got that either. I mean I guess it's to stop the lid rising but aren't you more likely to burn yourself?

[Anonymous No.17716634]

>>17716626
Every kettle I have ever used has had, for obvious safety reasons, a very secure lid. I'm pretty sure the fag in that pic is using a Fellow as well which definitely has a very secure lid. Maybe his estrogen addled arms can't support a clean pour with one hand. Maybe that's why he has to use a melodrip on a gay little metal stand, since he's not strong or dexterous enough to pour properly from the kettle alone.

[Anonymous No.17716736]

triggered

[Anonymous No.17716754]

>>17716626
My guess is greater control of the gooseneck

[Anonymous No.17716760]

>>17716626
>>17716736 kek

It's probably just professional "form", and helps add stability and control. Maybe it dates back to a time when our ancestors had no lid, or shitty lids so we instinctively hold it like that to this day, like a dog circling before he lays down.

[Anonymous No.17716791]

>>17716760
why use many hand when one hand do trick?

[Anonymous No.17716849]

>>17710955
I do my water cleansui filtered then add in my kh/gh concentrate and it tastes real good

[Anonymous No.17716880]

>>17716849
Amazon threw a couple lbs of potassium bicarb and calcium chloride at my door last night. Turns out the tinyspoon is extremely useful for pulling out .01g of powder when you need it. Antigearqueers btfo.
https://www.umeshiso.com/product/the-mini-dipper-rose-six-pack/

[Anonymous No.17716890]

>>17716760
Yeah the melotard was clearly referencing the ancient chink custom of putting your hand on the lid of the kettle, it's impossible that he is just retarded and gay.

[Anonymous No.17716922]

For me its the universal kettle tipper. Its the only thing I've found that makes Aldi's Breakfast Blend(the one with the Rooster on it) better. I'm debating picking up a costco membership so I can try their Columbian Supremo.

[Anonymous No.17716927]

>>17716890
You need to keep that second hand free to swirl your cone man. Lance Hedrick taught me that one ;)

[Anonymous No.17716964]

>>17715775
Only Chinese grinders for you then

[Anonymous No.17716973]

>>17716190
It might have been just my mood. There were some of those flavors you get in the back of the roof of the mouth, but I didn't feel like they deserved my attention. It was just a coffee...

[Anonymous No.17716992]

>>17716922
i need one of these to go with my stabilized spoon

[Anonymous No.17717050]

I need my grinders to be made by 100% uyger slave labor. which ones are it for me?

[Anonymous No.17717051]

>>17716927
>listening to coffeetubers
Just say you don't know anything and move on.

[Anonymous No.17717054]

>>17717050
df64 since the df64p turned out to be dogshit vaporware.

[Anonymous No.17717063]

>>17717050
Kingrinder is the chinkiest you can get. Chinkshit knockoff of a Chink original (knockoff).

[Anonymous No.17717064]

>>17717051
Think its a coincidence the weight gain started directly after losing to the melodrip?

[Anonymous No.17717070]

>>17717064
What are you even talking about genuinely

[Anonymous No.17717089]

[Anonymous No.17717098]

>>17717089
>melotard lost to this
kek

[Anonymous No.17717109]

>What recipe did you use?
>I DON'T KNOW
>Here's a sprometheus video proving that it's good
>Just ignore that the recipe is completely different from the website and I never noticed this despite me allegedly using this thing every day and being its biggest fan and knowing everything about its creator
kys schizo

[Anonymous No.17717112]

>>17716760
Potter here. I've spent a lot of time studying the ergonomics of pouring and drinking vessels. For top and back-mounted handled pouring vessels, the hand on top is most definitely to provide stability. Most pouring vessels are only stable in two axes when held with one hand. The other hand helps with the third axis. Hand on top of lid is a natural spot because it is the only place that is cool to the touch. It also helps when the lid isn't locking. The heavier the vessel and the weaker grip of the user, the more necessary the second hand is. When you start making shit you'll start feeling up everything's ergos. Watch people interacting with utilitarian objects. It's really fascinating. When you do this in stores everyone looks at you like you're insane. When you do this at a craft show everyone thinks you're a craftsman.

[Anonymous No.17717117]

>>17717112
Analyze the ergonomics of the Melodrip for us please Mr. Potter

[Anonymous No.17717121]

>>17717112
Those side-mount handles on Japanese teapots are The Best pouring vessels, btw. A lot of people attempt to side-pour with top and back mount handles because it's more natural.

[Anonymous No.17717126]

>>17717117
I haven't really looked at those. I think they're dumb though.

[Anonymous No.17717128]

>>17717112
Also has to do with better controlling your flow rate.
https://journals.aps.org/prl/abstract/10.1103/PhysRevLett.104.084503

[Anonymous No.17717132]

>>17717126
>I think they're dumb though.
HOW FUCKING DARE YOU THE MELODRIP IS GOD'S GIFT TO MAN IT LITERALLY JUST WON THIRD (3rd) PLACE IN THE WBC JUST SAY YOU KNOW NOTHING ABOUT AGITATION AND MOVE ON

[Anonymous No.17717138]

>noooooooo its useless you cant just win a national competition three times with 3 different brewers and a shower head you have to use an aeropress cap

[Anonymous No.17717145]

>>17717132
It looks like a gimmicky piece of plastic to make money off of dorks.

[Anonymous No.17717147]

It's interesting how the meloschizo still doesn't know what recipe he uses

[Anonymous No.17717149]

>>17717147
Also interesting how he has never even proved that he owns one, only providing us with images of his shitty crater beds

[Anonymous No.17717155]

>>17717147
put kettle on stove. Turn it off before it starts to steam. Add 1/4 cup hot water to mug.
Add One and 1/3 "scoops" of light roast to aeropress, inverted. Wet the filter.
Add hot water to top line of aeropress. Use bottom of scoop to stir 4 times.
Screw on the lid. Turn over onto mug and press. Wala.
Simple and effective. No fucking around. I used to follow recipes and weights and timers but it doesn't take much to make great coffee with the AeroPress

[Anonymous No.17717162]

>non-timestamped webm of water passing through a bed with a giant mound in the center
>proof that the melopiss is the best thing since sliced bread
Ok retard

[Anonymous No.17717168]

>>17717149
>>17717162
You do realize I deliberately placed the md in frame right?
>>17710955

[Anonymous No.17717174]

>>17717168
You do realize that's not a webm of water passing through a bed right? Oh wait you don't even know what pour weight means so maybe you don't know what a bed is either

[Anonymous No.17717201]

>I don't know what percolation looks like and at this point I'm too afraid to ask

[Anonymous No.17717212]

>>17717201
Thank you for finally and decisively proving the superiority of the mellowpiss by posting yet another webm that doesn't include the actual device in use and by throwing in another nonsequitur non-argument that vaguely looks like an actual point. Janitor faggot scum

[Anonymous No.17717241]

>if I name my webms "janniesarecucks" they will never suspect that I am one myself!

[Anonymous No.17717251]

>>17717212
Solipsism and schizophrenia go hand in hand. Get help.
> But the crucial paradox is that patients are not solipsists by choice. On the one hand, the patient with schizophrenia is aware of the instability of the subjective world, but on the other hand they have to, as Sass argues, hold on to the solipsistic self because if they let go of even this last straw, their entire subjectivity would surely disintegrate. Solipsism, it seems to me, is not a choice of a self-deceiving disorder, but the end product of a long and painful reasoning process (no matter how irrational or biased) that has detached from one’s own agency. As such, the solipsist maintains the unstable parallelism, desperately trying to keep it at equilibrium but at the cost of the whole reaction falling apart.

[Anonymous No.17717253]

>>17717251
>hold on to the solipsistic self because if they let go of even this last straw, their entire subjectivity would surely disintegrate
Sounds like you are describing yourself here kek

[Anonymous No.17717261]

>>17717253
>I don't see the melodrip so it doesn't exist. Admitting the melodrip was used would cause severe mental duress, so it is rejected.
vs
>Neat. I should try that.

[Anonymous No.17717280]

>it's literally impossible for the melodrip to be useless or even detrimental
>my entire existence is based on Ray being the one true god
>nobody else uses or respects use of the melodrip
>therefore, since I am not wrong, everyone else is wrong
>I will now seek out strained examples to prove the efficacy of the memedrip
>See! Look! After the thing existed for years someone finally got close to winning a competition with one! Proof that the melodrip is amazing!
>Look! This youtuber who can't even use a TDS meter correctly said it was good! Even though people who compete in coffee competitions found the exact opposite result he did! They were just wrong and bad at coffee because they didn't win the competition so their opinions are invalid!
>Just ignore how I bitched and whined about nonexistent coffeetubers in the past, those strawmen had the wrong opinions so they don't count!
Actual genuine schizo

[Anonymous No.17717292]

>Try something new
>It doesn't work
Normal person's reaction is to move on. Melodripper's reaction is to have a mental breakdown and cry for hours that you just didn't use the correct secret recipe (even though he doesn't know what recipe he uses) and prop up a literal pedophile and a literal retard as examples of the melodrip being used to good effect. Meanwhile the rest of the world has moved on from that failed experiment.

[Anonymous No.17717295]

>makes up his own lore to satisfy the delusions
>SEE HES A JANNIE HE TYPED THAT IN A FILENAME
add it to the list

[Anonymous No.17717301]

>>17717295
That was seriously the best retort you could come up with, schizotard?

[Anonymous No.17717306]

Melodrip inventor better start investing in his personal security

[Anonymous No.17717310]

>>17717301
Its hard keeping up with such an intellectual titan.
>instagram man is peedo. I know this from looking at peedos

[Anonymous No.17717315]

>Wins the WBC in your path
Oh no no no melobros, how will we ever recover from this one? The heckin pronouns girl BTFO'd our BASED and REDPILLED melochad.

[Anonymous No.17717317]

>>17717306
He's going to have to lawyer up. I heard there's a class action ctg lawsuit brewing over ruined beds of medium roast. Btw bottom filters don't do anything to espresso either. Don't trust the youtuber shills.

[Anonymous No.17717327]

>>17717317
>Don't trust the youtuber shills.
Wait, are we supposed to trust them or not? First we were retarded for trusting them, then we could only follow what they told us to do, but then they were right and they were holding the secret recipe to unlock the full power of the melodrip the whole time, but NO NOT THAT VIDEO THAT DOESN'T COUNT THAT'S 4 YEARS OLD YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO FOLLOW THE 3 YEAR OLD ONE, but now we're back to not trusting the youtube shills? I'm having trouble keeping up so could you just say whether we trust the youtube experts or not?

[Anonymous No.17717338]

>>17717327
Bro it might be time for you to touch some grass

[Anonymous No.17717340]

>>17717338
Do you know any good grasstuber tutorials I could watch that would instruct me on how to do that?

[Anonymous No.17717352]

>>17717327
The only thing that exists is the mug in your hand. Anyone and everything else is a schizo delusion and or jannieshill. If you crash your bike while learning to ride, it must have just been a shitty bike. Accept zero fault and bitch on /biketimegeneral/.

[Anonymous No.17717365]

>>17717315
Morgan wins
>Judges based!
Elika wins
>Judges biased!
WBC and WBrC aren't until June bud. Don't you get the SCA newsletter?

[Anonymous No.17717367]

>>17717352
That doesn't answer my question though? I'm asking you whether we trust the youtube experts or not since there seems to be some inconsistency here?

[Anonymous No.17717387]

>>17717367
There are no experts. The only expert exists in your mind. Also hoffman, but only when he shits on weber products.
>What do you mean recipes aren't static and evolve over time. All you have to do is follow the hoff and you can make good coffee too!

[Anonymous No.17717393]

>>17717387
Wow, your recipe is just so dynamic that you can't even tell us what it is! Truly a testament to the device's versatility!

[Anonymous No.17717401]

>>17717387
>>There are no experts. The only expert exists in your mind.
>Sprometheus bad
>Sprometheus is actually good now that he says he likes the melodrip
>WBC third place winner good because he used the melodrip I just refuse to show proof of this or post his (or my own) recipe
>WBC competitors are actually bad now because they are disagreeing with sprometheus they don't count because they didn't even win lol

[Anonymous No.17717420]

>>17717393
>I start here and tune per coffee
B-but this video from 2015 says differently? Also he's using a different dripper than you? Pretty sure you're lying.

[Anonymous No.17717441]

>>17717420
Last time you said you used the recipe on the card. Even though when I claimed to use the recipe on the card you didn't believe me and accused me of not knowing what recipe I was using. And that recipe is for the Omni Dripper which you clearly aren't using. Pointing out all of the different recipes proposed by different people was to show that apparently nobody knows how the thing is even supposed to be used. Which you have also shown by posting multiple different recipes and asserting that each one is the correct one. You then cited a Sprometheus video from 2019 that uses a completely different recipe than that and claimed that was what you did. So which is it? It's hard to tell since you refuse to provide proof that you have ever actually used it.

[Anonymous No.17717469]

>>17717441
> I claimed to use the recipe on the card you didn't believe me and accused me of not knowing what recipe I was using
You should probably know the basic pouring structure you used when asked. You didn't read the instructions and couldn't figure out how to pour a level bed. Simple.
>posting multiple different recipes
Are you under the impression that every recipe works well with every coffee? Just say you don't know anything and move on. Buy some instant coffee maybe.
>you refuse to provide proof that you have ever actually used it
All the proof you need. Can't you see the telltale signs of gentle droplets?
>>17701010

[Anonymous No.17717473]

>>17717441
You must be journaling your grievances experienced in the coffee time general to keep all of this straight in your head. Please post some of them

[Anonymous No.17717478]

>>17717473
People tell me I overswirl my v60 to compensate for my random pours.

[Anonymous No.17717484]

>>17717469
>You should probably know the basic pouring structure you used when asked.
What does that have to do with you asking what recipe I was using? You asked, I answered, and you said that wasn't good enough. But now you claim that "the one on the card" is the one that you use every day kek
>Are you under the impression that every recipe works well with every coffee?
Another nonsequitur. These recipes were not designed for specific coffees, they are fundamentally completely different. And you apparently can't decide which one is the correct one that you are supposed to start with and then dial in for your specific coffee.
>All the proof you need. Can't you see the telltale signs of gentle droplets?
>You just sabotaged that pour on purpose!
>It's LITERALLY IMPOSSIBLE for the melodrip to just be bad!
>You're intentionally making bad pours to unfairly discredit my showerhead!
What was that about not being able to see anything other than the self?

[Anonymous No.17717509]

>Oh you use the recipe on the card? What recipe is that? You don't even know?
>Clearly all you can do is follow the instructions of coffeetubers
>You can't even follow simple printed instructions
>I use the recipe in this Sprometheus video
>Actually I use the recipe on the card
>Actually I use the OmniDripper recipe from the website (with my origami)

[Anonymous No.17717516]

>>17714341
It’s the larger tamper, think I got the idea there might be an issue from
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XGSsF_2T450

[Anonymous No.17717519]

>>17717484
>I've tried nothing and I'm all out of ideas
>i'll just swirl my v60 so they don't make fun of my pours anymore
Look pal, you've got to be used to failure by now. You've been doing shitty, subpar work your entire life. Why do you expect coffee to be different? Your equipment is not holding you back, you're holding your equipment back. Because you're only able to make shitty brews, you only believe shitty brews exist.
>What was that about not being able to see anything other than the self?
I've made good coffee and bad coffee with the md. Crazy huh? Its not a bandaid for your poor technique.
>What do the amount of pours and the frequency have to do with the recipe?

[Anonymous No.17717538]

I had a horrible espresso off a slayer+ek43 once. Went back home and made a fantastic cup with a kingrinder and mokapot. Slayers are fucking dogshit and ruin your espresso every time.

[Anonymous No.17717539]

>>17717519
Interesting how when it's pointed out that you don't even know what recipe you're using, and that you claim to be using the recipe for the wrong kind of dripper, your response is to immediately project failure onto others since you can never be wrong.
>I've made good coffee and bad coffee with the md.
Everyone else has been making good coffee for years before the melodrip, and has continued to make good coffee since its 5 minutes of fame passed. What's your point? That a broken clock can be right twice a day? Cool, nobody cares. Everyone else has already tried it, not found any use for it, and moved on.
>>What do the amount of pours and the frequency have to do with the recipe?
What is with you and these constant disingenuous nonsequiturs? You asked me what recipe I used, and I told you, and you said that "the one on the included card" wasn't enough. Do you expect me to remember the exact number and frequency of pours that were laid out on a piece of paper I threw away a year ago? Why do you only expect me to remember those two parts and not the other variables that change in every recipe you have provided?

[Anonymous No.17717547]

>>17717519
I forgot to add that it's hilarious to see the guy who doesn't know the difference between pour weight and bloom weight attempting to chastise me over not recording the frequency of pours

[Anonymous No.17717550]

>>17717539
>I used the one on the card
>Which one? Do you have the card?
>No I threw it away immediately
Wait did everyone use it or noone? You keep changing your story.
>you claim to be using the recipe for the wrong kind of dripper
Noooo you can't use the recipe now that he added "omni" to the graphic last month. I don't even know what the fuck an omni dripper is.

[Anonymous No.17717563]

>>17717550
>>Interesting how when it's pointed out that you don't even know what recipe you're using, and that you claim to be using the recipe for the wrong kind of dripper, your response is to immediately project failure onto others since you can never be wrong.
>Which one? Do you have the card?
>No I threw it away immediately
You claim to use the recipe on the card. Well, sometimes at least. Other times you claim to use the OmniDripper recipe and other times you claim to use the Sprometheus recipe and other times you claim to use Recipe A from the website. It depends on the coffee I guess. Anyways, you claim to have used the recipe on the card at some point, so you should have known exactly what recipe I was referring to, yet you didn't.
>Wait did everyone use it or noone? You keep changing your story.
Everyone else [who] has already tried it, [has] not found any use for it, and moved on.
>he added "omni" to the graphic last month
Oh right, I was supposed to use the waybackmachine to find the correct secret recipe hidden on a previous version of the website. My mistake, I should have known that.

[Anonymous No.17717588]

It's interesting to see how the melotard case study is evolving.
He clearly recognizes mental illness as a concept, but fails to see how he is projecting his own illness onto others. He also apparently thinks that his Origami is some shit I have never even heard of before called an "OmniDripper." We also have what I think is now the fourth distinct recipe. And we have admittance that he still owns the paper that came with the packaging, which seems strange considering that he himself doesn't know what recipe is listed on that paper.
Where do you guys think the melotard saga will lead us next thread?

[Anonymous No.17717600]

>>17717563
If you read the card, it tells you to check the website. You didn't read the card.
>you claim to
Tried em all. Why are you under the impression I can only use one? Told you I generally start with recipe c and vary the bloom weight to account for roast level/freshness. You'd know this if you were able to read.
>you claim to have used the recipe on the card at some point, so you should have known exactly what recipe I was referring to, yet you didn't.
Unless he had new cards printed in the time since I ordered mine. You know like how the website recipes have changed since I ordered mine. So I asked you to clarify. This resulted in you sperging out and making up lore to satisfy your delusions.
>not found any use for it, and moved on.
Other than the guy who exclusively wins competitions with it. I'll play with his latest recipe once my new grinder gets here. With a lilydrip in the origami to simulate something closer to his new flat bottom dripper.
>Oh right, I was supposed to use the waybackmachine
No, you were just supposed to play around with the new tool you bought. The card wasn't that long. You could have read the whole thing in the time it takes for a kettle to boil.

[Anonymous No.17717619]

>>17717600
>If you read the card, it tells you to check the website. You didn't read the card.
When I said I tried the one on the website you said that was wrong and linked the Sprometheus video. So am I supposed to use the one on the card or not? As I have explained a hundred times now, you said that I couldn't read the card and that I only listened to coffeetubers. But then coffeetubers were good again because Sprometheus video. And now apparently we're back to me not reading the card. Even though I did read it and go to the website. But the website recipe was wrong. Repeat the cycle again. Ad infinitum.
>Tried em all. Why are you under the impression I can only use one? Told you I generally start with recipe c and vary the bloom weight to account for roast level/freshness. You'd know this if you were able to read.
No, you said you use the one on the card.
>Unless he had new cards printed in the time since I ordered mine. You know like how the website recipes have changed since I ordered mine. So I asked you to clarify. This resulted in you sperging out and making up lore to satisfy your delusions.
So it's his fault now that you can't name what recipe you actually use?
>Other than the guy who exclusively wins competitions with it.
And what about everyone else who exclusively wins competitions without it? What is your point?
>No, you were just supposed to play around with the new tool you bought.
So I wasn't supposed to read the card at all now? I was just supposed to make shit up and hope that it worked? Just make up your mind already I am getting tired of seeing multiple conflicting snarky remarks in the same thread. Just fuck off for now and I'll provoke you again next thread and you can go on another schizo rant about all your favorite coffee celebrities and I'll add it to the case study.

[Anonymous No.17717624]

>>17717600
>Tried em all. Why are you under the impression I can only use one? Told you I generally start with recipe c and vary the bloom weight to account for roast level/freshness. You'd know this if you were able to read.
This must get really confusing when you don't know the difference between bloom weight and pour weight. How do you balance all of these recipes with your own stupidity? Do you have a notebook? Can we see it?

[Anonymous No.17717655]

>>17717619
You're getting multiple posters confused again schizo.
>Start with the basic recipes provided then tweak to taste
Why is this such a difficult concept for you? No one has the same issues or complaints as you do.
>And what about everyone else who exclusively wins competitions without it? What is your point?
If it consistently ruined cups like you're claiming, it couldn't have won 3x in a row and taken top 3 at WBrC 2021. Its your poor technique.
>Once is happenstance. Twice is coincidence. Three times is enemy action.
Somehow he's developed a recipe for a coffee. Imagine that. Just say you don't know how different variables affect your cup and move on.

[Anonymous No.17717685]

>>17717655
>You're getting multiple posters confused again schizo.
Do you genuinely think that there is anyone here on your side? You and I are the only people who own the fucking thing, schizo.
>>Start with the basic recipe
>Which one?
>>I DON'T KNOW
>Okay well which one do you use personally?
>>I DON'T KNOW I JUST DO WHATEVER THE VOICES TELL ME TO DO
>Well how am I supposed to know where to start?
>>JUST FIGURE IT OUT
>Can you prove to us that you actually use it and share your supposed recipe?
>>.......
>Its your poor technique.
You have yet to show us his or your own technique, and you refuse to provide a recipe, so I have nothing to compare to. I poured the water in circles like it said and you accused me of pouring it all in one spot.
>Somehow he's developed a recipe for a coffee. Imagine that.
How do you determine whether your coffee needs the 100g pours made when the waterline is 1cm above the bed recipe or the 30g pours once it is below the bed recipe? Do you make a giant matrix accounting for every possible variable introduced by the mellowpisser and test them all for each individual coffee? All of that work for a, what did you say, 2-3% increase in clarity or whatever?

[Anonymous No.17717686]

>I'll add it all to my notebook!
>No wait YOU have the schizonotebook not me
October wasn't a year ago schizonon. But keep making up a timeline to satisfy your own fragile reality. Brew another cup and really lean into it. Just try to keep the melodrip hand steady so you don't fuck it up like the last one.

[Anonymous No.17717697]

>>17717686
Absolutely desperate.
>Uh you said you had a notebook
>But then you said I have a notebook!
>BTFO!!!!!! every single thing you have ever said is irrelevant now because I made up an inconsistency that doesn't actually exist!!!
In that case, all the bullshit you have ever spouted out about the thing is nullified five or six times over by the number of times you have changed your story or gotten confused over pour weight vs. bloom weight kek

[Anonymous No.17717738]

>>17717685
>>17717697
I posted a webm following the exact 18g recipe A you did, but with a much flatter bed. It was delicious. When I get that coffee right it tastes like a Terry's chocolate orange. You refuse to believe it. Can't help you there.
>How do you determine whether your coffee needs the 100g pours made when the waterline is 1cm above the bed recipe or the 30g pours once it is below the bed recipe?
You're asking me how I determine how I'm going to dial in a coffee? Subjective trial and error guided by taste. The learning curve you can't seem to get over. More water weight above the bed will give you a faster flowrate out of the bed. More water above the bed is more area for water to bypass the coffee completely. Faster brews with the same grind size are going to be lighter on your palate. Tweak to your liking. Keeping all your water IN the slurry is going to brew a stronger cup, partially due to less bypass, partially due to the water lingering in the slurry longer. I don't pull every espresso at 1:2,25-28 seconds,9 bar ,212f water either.
> I poured the water in circles like it said and you accused me of pouring it all in one spot.
Do better then. Noone else here believes in you but me. I don't even care if you post about it really. I just want you to overcome this wall you keep slamming your face into. Its just a 13g piece of plastic.
>Do you genuinely think that there is anyone here on your side?
Put it in the notebook. I'm sure it won't look like the scribblings of a madman.
>4/18/22 4chan supports me

[Anonymous No.17717742]

How do I brew a coffee that taste like fruit tea?
Yitgacheffee?

[Anonymous No.17717755]

>>17717738
>I posted a webm following the exact 18g recipe A you did
With no actual proof that it was used and no evidence of technique used. You only proved that you don't even know what dripper you're using with that webm.
>You're asking me how I determine how I'm going to dial in a coffee?
No, I asked you specifically, "How do you determine whether your coffee needs the 100g pours made when the waterline is 1cm above the bed recipe or the 30g pours once it is below the bed recipe" you disingenuous retard.
>When I get that coffee right it tastes like a Terry's chocolate orange. You refuse to believe it. Can't help you there.
Now you're making shit up that I never said again. Who the fuck would deny something as banal as chocolate and orange notes. Do you really think it's only possible to achieve flavors like that with a melodrip? Anyone can do that using normal methods. I have been drinking coffee that tastes like chocolate coated cherries and marzipan for the past month without it, so what is your point?
>Do better then.
How do I pour a circle better?
>Put it in the notebook. I'm sure it won't look like the scribblings of a madman.
>>4/18/22 4chan supports me
More schizoid nonsequiturs. Yawn.

[Anonymous No.17717807]

>he printed new cards just to mess with me
>look guys I swear it wasn't called the omnidripper recipe before
>he printed a new card with that on it just to make me look stupid on an Ethiopian swirling forum
Holy fucking kek the lolcow never fails to deliver

[Anonymous No.17718276]

>>17717742
Yirgacheffe is nice

[Anonymous No.17718335]

>>17717742
Light roast Ethiopians

[Anonymous No.17718480]

Flair Pro 2 owner here. Is there really a large improvement in the workflow should I upgrade to the 58, or am I better off with an automatic at that point? If it helps, I like how minimal the maintenance for the Pro 2 is.

[Anonymous No.17718589]

Who has LAGOM mini grinder In stock?

[Anonymous No.17718814]

>>17717742
you have to use a melodripper

[Anonymous No.17718824]

>>17718480
the major improvement in the 58 is the standard-sized portafilter and the auto-heating group
if that improvement is worth >$500 to you, then go ahead and get it. in my opinion, that seems like a big waste of money, and i'd rather save that $500 for a more extravagant purchase (a good $2k+ auto machine or a fancy lever machine that has an actual boiler and steam wand)

[Anonymous No.17718841]

>>17718480
I really like my 58.
>>17717755
>I fail so everyone must fail.
Do better.

[Anonymous No.17718997]

>you can ONLY get chocolate notes put of coffee by using a melodrip
Do melotards really believe this?

[Anonymous No.17719141]

>>17718997
>put of coffee
meds.

[Anonymous No.17719167]

>you can ONLY get chocolate notes out of coffee by using a melodrip
Do meloshitters really believe this?

[Anonymous No.17719185]

I understand that pourover technique can be challenging. You seem to be struggling. You don't even know what dripper you're using apparently, I would start by figuring that out. I am the only person here who believes in you. I just want you to overcome this wall you keep slamming your face into. Would it help you if I posted some tutorials from WBC winner coffeetubers?

[Anonymous No.17719212]

>>17718997
>>17719167
Steady making up his own lore.

[Anonymous No.17719215]

>>17719212
Cope

[Anonymous No.17719224]

>>When I get that coffee right it tastes like a Terry's chocolate orange. You refuse to believe it. Can't help you there.
>>Steady (sic) making up his own lore.
Meds. Now.

[Anonymous No.17719238]

>>17719224
Turns out I get very similar notes when I dial it in for espresso. Wild huh. Are puck screens melodrips now?

[Anonymous No.17719256]

>>17719238
>Turns out I get very similar notes when I dial it in for espresso. Wild huh.
Why would that be wild? You bought a coffee with chocolate and orange notes. Why do you think that's special? What does that have to do with the piss device?
>Are puck screens melodrips now?
>Another nonsequitur

[Anonymous No.17719267]

Flair Pro 2 users: What grinder do you use, and do you also use it for drip coffee?

[Anonymous No.17719269]

>>17719267
Kingrinder

[Anonymous No.17719280]

>>17719256
Significantly closer to espresso grind than veesixty. Melodrip lets water flow through a relatively stable bed of particles. Like espresso. I wonder if there's anything to grinding finer and extracting further?

[Anonymous No.17719310]

>>17719280
So are you going to make a point or are you just going to keep schizoposting? Because I'm really not interested right now.

[Anonymous No.17719312]

>>17719269

[Anonymous No.17719316]

>>17719312
Please forgive me I couldn't resist

[Anonymous No.17719331]

>>17719316

[Anonymous No.17719340]

>>17719331
What kind of grinder do you want? If you only want or can only afford a handgrinder then Kino seems to be the only non-chinkshit option these days. If you can afford $700+ for an electric you could get a Niche, Ode (SSP), or that one chinkshit one that also has an SSP option.

[Anonymous No.17719360]

>>17719310
Yeah. It makes an award winning cup if you're able to pour water on a disc accurately. Couple factors contribute to it.
>>17719340
Df64 is just a knockoff mazzer mini burr carrier in a smaller body. Df83 will likely be coming out this year. Major/Royal/ZM burrs.

[Anonymous No.17719363]

>>17719340
I'd prefer a manual grinder to match the manual aspect of the Flair, for the sake of low maint and longevity. But easily switchable from espresso to drip. Seems like you really need two grinders for what I want.

[Anonymous No.17719369]

>>17719363
Just get a commandante or kinu m47p. Cmandante will be more.filter focused and espresso capable, kinu will be more espresso focused and still decent for drip. Kinu has pour over "optimized" burrs you can swap in later if that makes a difference.

[Anonymous No.17719378]

>>17719360
>It makes an award winning cup if you're able to pour water on a disc accurately.
So does a normal pouring routine, if you're able to pour water in a circle accurately and stir/swirl accurately. So what's your point? What does any of this deflection have to do with your super special exclusive chocolate orange coffee that only you are capable of comprehending?
>Couple factors contribute to it.
>>Variables are le bad
>>Agitation is le variable
>>Therefore agitation is le bad
>>Let's solve agitation by introducing a plastic disc that adds several other variables
>>Now that there is no agitation my OmniDripper is basically an espresso machine!
Ok buddy. Run along now and drink your chocolate orange coffee.

[Anonymous No.17719387]

>>17719378
More schizo lore. Nothing of substance. Put it in the notebook.

[Anonymous No.17719393]

>>17719387
People winning the WBrC without a melodrip is "schizo lore?"

[Anonymous No.17719410]

>>17719393
Matt Winton only won because he used a v60 and Hario was the title sponsor remember? Its no coincidence that the v60 has won more wbrcs. Its shills all the way down and hario just keeps pumping money into the SCA.
https://youtu.be/AgwO0iLY1UU
Jesus this guy is talking about magnesium and calcium? You can't just dial in a recipe through those variables. I tried it once and fucked my cup up.

[Anonymous No.17719418]

>Melobros.... we fucking lost....
>No..... we can't lose........
>It's RIGGED! Unfair election! Stop the count!
A Hario-sponsored hit squad has been dispatched to your location. Say goodnight melopisser you're done for.

[Anonymous No.17719424]

So many kingrinder shills, post metal shavings and stripped threads after 1 year.

[Anonymous No.17719473]

Hey there newfriend. Hario title sponsor was the argument someone tried to pull when I asked why the Aeropress hasn't won an open competition. I posted the videos as they came out last october to much schizoscreeching. Somehow I ignored Elika's recipe, otherwise I would have been mentioning him the whole time. As you were.

[Anonymous No.17719598]

Coffee lorelet here, does coffee strength just come from the way the grounds are produced or can different plans produce stronger or weaker strains?

[Anonymous No.17719602]

>>17719598
>plans
*plants

[Anonymous No.17719617]

>>17719598
All weed isn't created equally, and the curing process does matter with that. I imagine coffee caffine content depends on genetics and cure process too. Doesn't seem far fetched, almost seems like common sense. To take it further, even good genetics are at the mercy of the climate and soil conditions. So many variables.

[Anonymous No.17719643]

>>17719617
It's just weird because while its easy to find evidence of different weed strains having different potencies, googling different types of caffeine just takes me to stuff like normal coffee vs espresso, which are preparation styles not different plants.

[Anonymous No.17719654]

>>17719617
fuck off

[Anonymous No.17719659]

>aeropress
>1zpresso q2
>have delicious coffee every day
>makes /ctg/ fanny flustered
im thinking based

[Anonymous No.17719666]

>>17719598
Robusta and liberica will both produce "stronger" more caffeinated beans compared to Arabica.
>>17719617
If you want to talk other plants, the most nicotine and "strength" in a tobacco plant comes from the ligero leaves. The top most leaves that get way more sunlight. I believe they use the top most part of tea plants for matcha for the same reason. More caffeine. It makes sense that higher altitude coffees would act the same.

[Anonymous No.17719713]

>>17719617
fuck off

[Anonymous No.17719724]

>>17719713
Someone smokes popcorn buds.

[Anonymous No.17719733]

>>17719666
>Robusta and liberica will both produce "stronger" more caffeinated beans compared to Arabica.
alright that's useful

[Anonymous No.17719755]

>>17719733
Might have a few tidbits of info to help your googling.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8jAMOAmYCJI

[Anonymous No.17719827]

>bought an encore and moccamaster

Man, I'm looking forward to making some gud black coffee. Any tips for a beginner?

[Anonymous No.17719850]

>>17719827
17-19 on the encore is a good range to start with, but don't get fixated on the number. Dial in by taste. Consider getting yourself a showerhead for christmas as thats a much cheaper "upgrade" than a new grinder.
https://coffeepilot.ca/products/shower-head-insert-for-technivorm-moccamaster

[Anonymous No.17719871]

>James Hoffman is NOT my WBC champion!
>Trust the plan 2 more weeks, melotranny pedo will come back, the election was stolen!
Melocels on suicide watch

[Anonymous No.17719874]

So nice being a NEET. I can make 2 espressos at 11pm and be a useless piece of shit all night

[Anonymous No.17719880]

>>17719874
How do you make money for coffee NEETbro? Inheritance? Disability? I am looking to get into the NEET life myself.

[Anonymous No.17719886]

>>17719871
tfw he's still confusing wbc and wbrc.
>but I swear I can actually read

[Anonymous No.17719888]

>>17719880
A few months ago I received some compensation thing from a job I worked years ago. Decided to spend some on /ck/ things.
I won't stay NEET for much longer, but it was a neat break

[Anonymous No.17719890]

>confusing
Hey there newfriend. It's called baiting and I do it to make you seethe and post replies like that. You also should have noticed that Hoffman wasn't the winner of anything last year or even a competitor. I also mentioned him to bait you because I know that he makes you seethe. Try to keep up sweetie.

[Anonymous No.17719896]

>>17719850
Is the standard showerhead really that bad?

[Anonymous No.17719902]

>>17719888
Also it's not that expensive after you get all the gear. Locally roasted is cheaper than high shelf supermarket brands. The monthly discounts I get are especially affordable.

[Anonymous No.17719907]

>>17719896
Yes, melodrip is a necessity

[Anonymous No.17719919]

>>17719896
You tell me. Don't have a moccamaster but I've gifted out two of those inserts and neither people have complained. There's also the artisansmith replacement showerhead but it costs a bit more since its a full arm instead of a top screen. I'd imagine the top screen keeps more heat in the bed.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jRIAWw6TW_Y
>>17719890
>I'm only pretending to be retarded. I'll have WCTC/Perger jokes next week.

[Anonymous No.17719936]

>>I'm only pretending to be retarded.
Yes, I am intentionally posting like you. That's the point.

[Anonymous No.17719938]

>>17719936
PEOPLE LIKE YOU

[Anonymous No.17719944]

>>17719850
Does this fit the Select?

[Anonymous No.17720007]

>>17719944
Seems like it.
>It fits both the Manual and Automatic Drip Stop Baskets. It will not fit any of the Cup-One or Grand Models.
I'd just use it for a few months and think about it. You might be better off buying the artisansmith. Comes out to $84 us since you get fucked on shipping. Probably dumb to buy both so figure out what you want. Pic rel. Sold this guy my old flair signature and sent him the coffeepilot. He likes it.
https://www.artisansmith.com.au/products/shower-head-for-moccamaster

[Anonymous No.17720079]

I like to take a used espresso puck and crush it between my fingers, it's such a delight for my autism.

[Anonymous No.17720164]

>>17720079
I like to take a used coffee filter and cram it up my ass. That way I can extract anything that didn't make it into the cup.

[Anonymous No.17720202]

>>17720079
Use it to exfoliate.

[Anonymous No.17720248]

>>17720202
Hey, that's an idea. I'd get to squish the nice granular grounds on my face.
Seems like an actual thing people do
https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/322875#exfoliation

>>17720164
Can't you die from this, or is that only with alcohol?

[Anonymous No.17720298]

>>17720248
I like to scrub my lips.

[Anonymous No.17720315]

>>17720248
>Can't you die from this, or is that only with alcohol?
You wouldn't die but you might get a caffeine hit if there is any left in the grounds. You don't even need to cran it necessarily since it can be absorbed through the skin I believe. Cramming would be more efficient though.

[Anonymous No.17720395]

>>17720315
Cramming makes me feel good

[Anonymous No.17720431]

Got this recently, and have been enjoying it

[Anonymous No.17720467]

anyone use/d a coffee sub service they like/d enough to recommend

[Anonymous No.17720610]

>>17720467
I grow my own coffee

[Anonymous No.17720893]

Fresh brew
>>17720890
>>17720890
>>17720890
>>17720890
>>17720890

[Anonymous No.17721513]

>melodrip is basically espresso
now THIS is schizophrenia