bunker down

[Anonymous No.17598712]

in two weeks everything is going to crash for real this time honestly trust me why didn't you prepfag when you had the chance???

[Anonymous No.17598716]

>Just two more weeks

[Anonymous No.17598724]

You'll be right eventually

[Anonymous No.17598760]

I don't know what you're talking about anon. I've got ten years worth of semen backed up in canning jars.

[Anonymous No.17598769]

I got my prep ready so I'm good. You'd be a moron to not have stuff stocked up right now with the current world affairs going on.

[Anonymous No.17598781]

>>17598712
>in two weeks
You'll eat all that in two weeks dillhole

[Anonymous No.17598796]

>>17598781
you eat 20 cans of food per day?

[Anonymous No.17598821]

Any minute now

[Anonymous No.17598834]

That's still early enough in the spring that I can expand my garden. I have enough seed potatoes that fertilizer and drip irrigation that I could guerilla garden potatoes here or there and in a few forest clearings near my house.
Plus all the birds.

[Anonymous No.17598857]

Building up supplies for 1 or 2 months isn't a bad idea but anything beyond that seems pointless to me.
If basic supplies aren't back by then and you aren't in an easily defendable position, shit is going to hit the fan anyway.

[Anonymous No.17598861]

>>17598712
I just need to get a water pump that will work if the power goes out. As long as I have water I'm pretty sure I'll be able to survive for at least a year. Not comfortably but I will survive.

[Anonymous No.17598867]

>>17598857
Quite frankly, if the situation has reached the point where you need 40 years of food and an armory in your basement, I don't want to live in that world.

[Anonymous No.17598869]

>>17598834
And what's to stop a gang of raiders stealing all that shit because it's sitting outside for everyone to see? This is a terrible "prep." It's probably putting you more at risk than it is keeping you alive.

[Anonymous No.17598873]

if society collapses I'm out, sorry
have fun living in a mad max shithole

[Anonymous No.17598883]

>>17598867
How's highschool going? I guarantee the second you are faced with death you are going to desperately scrape together everything you can to survive while crying like a bitch about how you don't want to die. Fucking underage retard.

[Anonymous No.17598982]

>>17598712
You need a garden, stored food is great and all but if you have a garden you won't need so much as the other plebs.

More importantly you should have already moved away from any diversity, it'll fucking tear you to pieces in the event of a food crisis.

[Anonymous No.17599004]

>>17598869
Don't be such a dick. I keep birds because I like them. If shits roving gang bad by the time they get to bumfuck nowhere Maine I'll have either hidden them, eaten them, or made some sort of neighborhood arrangement were security is less of a concern.

[Anonymous No.17599011]

>>17598982
>You need a garden
Why? To feed thieves?

[Anonymous No.17599027]

>>17599011
Watching preppers tell people not to have gardens because maybe something might possibly happen to them is peak hilarity.

[Anonymous No.17599045]

>>17599027
>have a garden that gets ripped apart by stranger in a month
>have a stock of food in a shelter that can potentially last years
Hmmmm I wonder why preppers are advising against it........

[Anonymous No.17599055]

>>17599045
Why cant you have both?

[Anonymous No.17599056]

>>17599045
they don't. there is no reason to not stock food just because you got a garden.

[Anonymous No.17599074]

>>17599045
Why is this an either/or situation for your dumb ass.................................................................................?

[Anonymous No.17599113]

>>17599011
>thieves
They get turned into fertilizer pretty quick.

[Anonymous No.17599117]

I fish, I hunt, I have a garden set up for the rest of the year. I have friends who do the same. We'll be ok.

[Anonymous No.17599129]

>>17599117
>I have friends who do the same
So other people know about your garden?

[Anonymous No.17599839]

I live in the shithole that needs 80% of its water imported known as LA county. If it ever gets so bad water shuts off we're 100% dead no matter what. If it doesn't get that bad, meh. Don't feel like wasting money on cans and oats.

[Anonymous No.17599844]

>>17599839
by eating the oats you will save money

[Anonymous No.17599871]

>>17599844
I only like oats with milk but I can never finish the costco milk just eating oats or making oatcakes. Feels bad having it spoil and throwing it out.

[Anonymous No.17599884]

>>17599839
Stockpile water in a closet and after a few days you'll have outlived most people and can loot food at leisure.

[Anonymous No.17600092]

>>17598769
Is that some sort of faggy 3%er jacket?

[Anonymous No.17600114]

>>17599871
have you tried powdered milk. some people don't like it but I think it is ok and it lasts for a long time and it cheaper for me

[Anonymous No.17600178]

>>17600092
He's larping as a video game character.

[Anonymous No.17600184]

>>17600178
and not even from a good vault

[Anonymous No.17600231]

could you use fibre optic cable to grow plants in a bunker?

[Anonymous No.17600332]

>>17600231
maybe, but a shaft and a mirror sounds easier and more effective

[Anonymous No.17600491]

if things get bad we'll go to war and then the northern hemisphere will stop existing, chillout bras

[Anonymous No.17601023]

If we reach a point where my choices are to eat shitty canned bunker food or starve I'm putting a bullet in my head because I'm not a tasteless faggot

[Anonymous No.17601028]

>>17601023
why wait?

[Anonymous No.17601036]

>>17599011
>Thieves
Try Hydroponics, shitass

[Anonymous No.17601037]

>>17601028
Still got food that isn't bunker shit to eat. What's your excuse?

[Anonymous No.17601050]

So what's the consensus on the optimal shelf-stable canned foods? I collect corned beef hash and canned yams as my two stockpile foods because they have a good macro combination, are extremely calorie-dense, and very cheap.

[Anonymous No.17601056]

I bought plenty of can goods but not in a position to /prep/ properly.

If shit really hit the fan supply chain wise I could probably go two to 3 months with heavy rationing.

Month to month and a half if power was cut.

[Anonymous No.17601060]

>>17601037
no plans to

[Anonymous No.17601071]

>>17598867
TOO LATE, FAGGOT

[Anonymous No.17601117]

>>17599884
based pro strats

[Anonymous No.17601529]

>>17601050
Peanut butter and instant ramen packets can sustain you for literally years.

[Anonymous No.17601535]

>>17601529
Instant ramen has almost no nutrition besides sodium.

[Anonymous No.17601537]

>>17598712
Oh thank God, finally.
I've been waiting for 30 years now, just two more weeks.

[Anonymous No.17601542]

>>17598712

THIS TIME ITS REAL

[Anonymous No.17601550]

>>17598712
Bunker down. Consume product. Your life is in danger. Get vaxxed. Stay at home. You will own nothing and you will like it.

[Anonymous No.17601554]

>>17601050
Flour, shortening, salt, sugar, honey, peanut butter, rice, beans, lentils. If you wanted a real answer. Don't forget decent multi / C vitamins.

[Anonymous No.17601555]

>the president himself says there's going to be a massive food storage
>lol conspiracy theorist retard prepper
fucking look at yourself

[Anonymous No.17601557]

>>17601555
He was talking about in the middle east and Africa. You fucking tard.

[Anonymous No.17601586]

>>17598796
Nikado alvocodo?

[Anonymous No.17601606]

>>17601535
Thats why you use the peanut butter

[Anonymous No.17601668]

>>17598712
>TFW fatass
Anon, I could stop eating for 4 months and still be slightly overweight.

[Anonymous No.17602238]

>>17601529
Instant ramen doesn't last as long as everyone seems to think it does.

[Anonymous No.17602275]

>>17601550
iGlowfag.

[Anonymous No.17602721]

>>17602238
it lasts for like 5 years if stored intelligently which is long enough to eat it

[Anonymous No.17602723]

>>17598712
all that food is going to go bad. half of the canned stuff bad in 5 years

[Anonymous No.17602728]

>>17598769
nice, anon!

[Anonymous No.17602734]

>>17598769
i also love a nice can of cram... cram it up my ass that is

[Anonymous No.17602740]

>>17598873
>openly admitting you would rather die than live in detroit
uhh, based?

[Anonymous No.17602780]

>>17598712
what is this prep simulator video game

[Anonymous No.17602788]

>>17598834
Do ducks and chickens get along?

[Anonymous No.17602818]

>>17602723
Canned food doesn't spoil as long as the seal isn't compromised. The texture and flavor might degrade but it won't spoil and make you sick.

[Anonymous No.17602824]

Prepfags always remind me of Pascal's wager. It's like, yeah, in the extremely unlikely scenario in which you're actually right you'll get to sit in your little hole in the ground and feel smug, but otherwise you're kind of wasting your life on stupid bullshit that doesn't matter.

[Anonymous No.17602835]

I have like a month of food stocked, but living in an apartment water is definitely an issue. Theres a river nearby but Im not sure I trust it even with a filter.

[Anonymous No.17602840]

>>17602788
ducks are assholes

[Anonymous No.17602842]

>>17598712
Because I want to die you faggot.

[Anonymous No.17602850]

I don't remember much from school
but plants like nitrogen
And piss has nitrogen
Is pissing on my survivigarden a good idea? Saves water

[Anonymous No.17602851]

>>17598857
>1 or 2 months
one year isn't a stretch for 1 anon. even with a 14cu chest freezer you can feed a small family for a year. 30 days should be the minimum.

[Anonymous No.17602855]

>>17602824
A reasonable level of preparation is just good sense.
You should always have a year of food on hand, as well as a firearm and a way to get clean water and heat if the grid goes down.
Obsessing over it and anxiously waiting for the day of deliverance is unhealthy though.

[Anonymous No.17602858]

>>17602824
>stupid bullshit that doesn't matter
maybe but prepping got me into /biz/ and changed my mindset. i started with a drawer full of snacks and now i have a house with a garden and moving on up

[Anonymous No.17602859]

>>17602788
It's been a year with the housed together. So far so good. But spring is here and drakes get pretty rapey this time a year . If he starts trying to mount hens I'll have to do something.

[Anonymous No.17602863]

>>17602824

It's organized hoarding. It lets people feel in control of something as a means of coping with things they don't feel they can control

[Anonymous No.17602864]

>>17602824
It's pretty cheap to keep 6months of food around. Heck. Even if you did something dumb like bought a few hundred lbs of rice sealed in mylar that'll cost you almost nothing and last a decade.

[Anonymous No.17602878]

>>17602863
>organized hoarding
do you live in a tent? no one cares

[Anonymous No.17602918]

>>17598712
preppers are retards who think their month's worth of rations will be enough for a decade in a bunker, and then stockpile ammo enough to start a revolution in africa instead of learning how to grow their own food and store and cure meat, or any actual practical day to day skills you would need to live independently after societal collapse.

What is sensible though is always having 2-4 weeks worth of storable food for actual sensible emergencies. There's a massive natural disaster and you're without power and groceries are out of supplies? You're trapped due to snowstorm? There's another worse pandemic? It's just sensible to be covered for problems like these.

Get some canned goods and always have excess of rice. Make sure to cycle through it all over a year so it doesn't go bad, buy canned meat you like and would eat normally, buy beans that aren't drenched in sugar. Have some powdered milk and egg substitutions. There's not much to it.

[Anonymous No.17602924]

>>17598712
Long pig is my preferred prepper food.

[Anonymous No.17602942]

>>17602918
whatever. "societal collapse" is just a hollywood meme. fact is something big can always happen. the world will adjust. cope all you want but you need to prepare. study historical events not hollywood. who surives and why?

[Anonymous No.17602968]

>>17602942
>fact is something big can always happen. the world will adjust. cope all you want but you need to prepare
that's literally what I said in my post. You need to be prepped for the far more likely kind of natural disasters that happen every year, which is what stored canned food is good for. A few weeks for when groceries are in short supply or you need to stay inside.

Actual major end of society as you know it prepping is about skills you learn and tools you have. It's about growing, hunting, storing, and curing your food. It's not about keeping emergency cans, it's about being able to create storable jarred food you grew yourself. It's about pickling so the food lasts until you can grow more again the next year.

[Anonymous No.17602992]

>>17602968
my idea of collapse in usa is that 80% of jobs and ideologies are bullshit and will cease. cities will impload. wallstreet and is running on fumes and all the leftist city bullshit that doesn't matter will become evident quick. literal children. a country boy will survive not by his skills but his mindset.

[Anonymous No.17603032]

>>17602992
Yeah but that's silly fantasy nonsense. Cities can't just "implode". We've seen exactly what happens when what you're suggesting happens. The great depression had the stock market's fake game fall in on itself, and the dustbowl came about at the same time.

Cities didn't implode. Lots of people were out of jobs and living on streets, there were shanty towns (hoovervilles), there was a short supply of food. And society kept on chugging away and eventually got better. For many it was a dramatic terrible thing, but for a lot of the country it was barely felt as much as the wars were.

I know you've been told about how good old country wisdom is so great and everyone else is just dumb, but that's just childish nonsense. It's a cope for people who feel they're irrelevant and dream of the rest of the world besides them collapsing so they'll be relevant again because they would totally be immune. "His mindset" good grief.

His skills are what would matter dumbass. Can that good ol country boy grow food, can he raise livestock, can he fix things without needing the conveniences of the modern world's supply lines? His only advantage is that he has more space in which to practice these crafts and hone these skills that city slickers have to go out of their way to practice.

His mindset is of no value. It's possibly a disadvantage in the long run.

[Anonymous No.17603067]

>>17598982
>>17599011
>>17599129
>>17601050
>>17601056
>>17601550
>>17602824
>>17602918
>>17602942
>>17602992
>>17603032
Excuse the mass reply

I'm not so much a 'prepper' as I am prepared. I have a pretty big pantry, its always stocked with canned goods and other stuff like rice and noodles and flour and stuff like that because part of it is the business I'm in and the other part is because I live in the country and stock up and buy in bulk from Costco. Same with TP, Paper Towel, and formula. I also bought some idone in case of water advisories. This occured in my county last year. I don't like going into the city or stores, too many people, too much traffic. Its also less expensive. I do have some firearms and a safe and I hunt; and realistically if shit hit the fan and you're killing animals for food you're kind of fucked anyway, but I did learn to proccess my own deer because I'm cheap and I feel like the processor ripped me off. Plus its kind of fun. I have a shitload of ammo (4000 rds of 556, 1000 rounds of Rem 7MM, etc) just because i usually buy ammo in bulk because its cheaper that way, if SHTF you're probably not going to use more than a few hundred rounds before you get domed anyway. I have a garden, because I like gardening and my own produce is fresher, and I don't have to buy it from the store so it saves me some $. I also keep cash in my safe because I was alive during 2004 when there was no electricity for 2 weeks. Lots of my friends think I'm this way because of COVID. Its not, it was the 2004 blackout when you had to have cash, and the safest thing to do was hang out at home for a few weeks, and even without electricity (I got a generator for free but those are to keep my freezers going and not waste $ in meat (1/2)

[Anonymous No.17603078]

>>17603032
mindset is everything. culture is everything. skills are overrated. community is more important.

[Anonymous No.17603082]

>>17603067
2/2

I can still eat good and have a jolly ol' time if we had a blackout situation or the supply chain broke down for whatever eason. So I wouldn't confuse 'prepper' with being prepared. There is a difference. When I think of prepper I think of a doomsday prepper. Someone with a bunker and all that shit. Owns gas masks and the like. There is a difference between that and just kind of being a prepared country fella who wants to make sure his kid has formula and you can get essentials. The US energy grid is actually extremely unstable and week long power outage are not some crazy thing that could never happen, it has in our lifetime and will again, especially with EVs overloading the grid, which they're saying is going to happen. It isn't organized hoarding. I'm actually kind of a minimalist. Its basically just buying what you need and stocking up. I think others who grew up in rural areas understand, you don't just run to the store when you need something when the nearest store is 30 minutes drive away.

[Anonymous No.17603095]

>>17603078
This sounds like the ravings of something who can't even fix a flat tire trying to cope by insisting everyone else will carry them in a disaster even though they have nothing of value to contribute.

No skills and knowledge are everything. Mindset is a meaningless metric but you seem to not know what it means. The right mindset for one scenario is a bad one for another, but being able to adapt your mindset is what's useful, but that is either something that comes naturally, comes with experience, or is a skill you learn and teach yourself.

Culture is superficial, community is important but are you a leach to it or a contributor with something of value to offer others in it? Are you depending on others with the right "culture and mindset" finding food for you because you're alike? If so then your mindset is hot garbage.

[Anonymous No.17603101]

>>17602992
And worst of all your shift key is hopelessly broken beyond repair.

[Anonymous No.17603105]

>>17603095
i don't think you've studied people who have experienced extreme hardship. that does not involve changing a fucking tire or wrangling up a squirrel for dinner. you are not prepared for exterme hardship.

[Anonymous No.17603107]

>>17603101
you are neurotic.

[Anonymous No.17603115]

oh yeah boys we are real prepared for collapse
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aHSUp7msCIE

[Anonymous No.17603120]

>>17603105
You loved your life consumed by media and it shows.

[Anonymous No.17603127]

I'm not a prepper but I kinda understand where they're coming from, even though I think prepping is retarded. It's an irrational fear, but being 100% secure that I would always have a place to stay and food to eat would take such a massive burden off of my shoulders.

[Anonymous No.17603131]

>>17603105
Extreme hardship is different from what we're talking about. It can be an aspect of it, but it's not the be all end all.

You have projected a lot of weird fantasy that speaks to the feelings of a small town idiot with inferiority issues projecting a persona onto city life that he can feel he's superior to. You don't know extreme hardship, you don't know hard work, you think skills aren't important in emergency, you think knowledge isn't important in emergency, you talk about culture and community as if you're dependent on them.

So in actual hardship where you would just be someone looking to be cared for by others who are actually mentally and physically prepared for such a disaster and who will give you direction based on their knowledge and skills that you don't think are important.

All that and you seem to only dream of societal collapse because you don't like how your rural life is considered irrelevant and pointless.

[Anonymous No.17603132]

>>17603082
Yeah, there's a huge difference between having a few months' supplies for your household tucked away and the prepper shit but for whatever reason, the two are getting conflated in this thread.

[Anonymous No.17603145]

>>17603127
not to be an asshole but the fact that most americans aren't even 30 days food secure is a joke. then we can move on. most can't even survive a financial hardship like replacing a small appliance (water heater). god forbid they have long term financial health career outlook. learning all this and prepping made me realize most people are losers and I wish I would have gotten into prepping sooner. any asshole can fill a closet with water and chef boyardee but once you really start thinking about life in a new perspective and get over all the sensationalist crap you can actually start planning.

[Anonymous No.17603147]

>>17603132
I think this thread has been good at explaining the differences. OP's speaking to the paranoid "I have more ammo stockpilled than canned food and that should last me a decade in the bunker" crowd known as preppers, but then there's just have a few weeks emergency supplied tucker away in case there's a natural disaster or something.

[Anonymous No.17603152]

>>17603131
youre the one making these long posts made on assumption and projection.

[Anonymous No.17603168]

>>17603145
I think the current more pressing problem is the majority of Americans are one paycheck away from missing rent and one medical emergency away from financial ruin. Our whole system has been sanded down on the edges until it functions with the threat and fear of poverty as a feature to generate more revenue for a few rather than as a problem that needs to be addressed.

There's stuff like that meme that went around at the start of the pandemic, where individual americans are told they need to be financially prepared for disasters but one week of reduced revenue and companies need to be bailed out.

[Anonymous No.17603193]

>>17603168
Yeah I hear ya but you can't blame everyone else. The more I hear the whining and the more I pry the more I realize those people are frivolous with their money. what you do with your money is 100% out of my control .

the system is fucked which is in my top collapse scenarios. the fucks on wall street think theyre so smart but they can't sustain this system long term but thats another discussion.

[Anonymous No.17603205]

what im trying to tell that other guy is prepping is developing a positive mindset and making choices that change your life long-term for a positive way. yeah changing a tire is a given just like having decent credit and other basic things. in the grand scheme of things one little skill isn't gonna save you but if you take control of your life now and realize no one is coming to save you the better chance you have. any idiot can learn "muh skillz" people change jobs all the time literal children learn boyscouts. it's people like autist zoomers and people who cater-to-me suit wearers are fucked... because they're fucked in the head.

[Anonymous No.17603246]

>>17601557
proofs

[Anonymous No.17603251]

>>17603205
You’re in the ballpark, not sure about the other guy but I posted this:
>>17603082
>>17603067
I think part of it boils down to 2 things
1) rural v urban, I don’t think urbanites know what it’s like to drive 30 mins through 2 feet of snow to get a container of formula for a baby because there is a recall and a pandemic going on just to get one formula to keep the kid eating. I think they look at people with a ton of ammo as prepper gun nuts but they don’t realize how quick you cycle through that in the range and how much cheaper it is to buy in bulk.
2) it’s just about self sufficientcy, again I’m “prepped” I’m it a prepper. I just want enough to hunker down for a month if the power grid goes out. Is planting my garden going to save me? No but I can teach my kids self sufficiency, save money, and it tastes better. 3 birds getting stoned at once. Also in my unique situation we own a business and we HAVE to have supplies so people get their orders, that’s money out of my pocket if we can’t find flour and eggs.

[Anonymous No.17603256]

>>17603193
It's rarely down to people being frivelous with their money these days, that's just the rich man hand wave reason "stop having starbucks and avacado toast!", but shit just costs more, people are paid less.

People with power are more than happy to complain about inflation and then raise their prices, but they won't consider that when the value of the dollar drops that also means their employees are now being paid less despite not being worth any less than before.

Cost of living goes up, wages do not, more of society is worn away like a gearbox with no oil in it.

[Anonymous No.17603261]

>>17603152
He wrote six sentences. SIX. One that was kind of a run on sentence. Wtf is wrong with you.

[Anonymous No.17603265]

>>17603131
Bro you’re reading too much into it I just want to feed my family and not deal with the lemmings when the power goes out

[Anonymous No.17603273]

>>17603261
hes making assumptions about where i live and who i am based on... what exactly? its like he's building a caricature to attack, why exactly? using an npc script or something. comical actually.

[Anonymous No.17603274]

>>17603265
That post is entirely about that one anon's weird fantasies about how good old country boys will prevail because of 'culture' and how cities will fall to ruin. It's a rust belt cope.

[Anonymous No.17603279]

>>17603273
Based on literally what you said. Did you forget what you said?

[Anonymous No.17603281]

>>17603274
ive lived in cities and the country. the culture is apparently different. don't believe, don't know what to say.

[Anonymous No.17603289]

>>17603279
a country boy will survive is a common saying retard. guess they don't teach you that one in college

[Anonymous No.17603294]

>>17603281
That's not relevant to anything here.

[Anonymous No.17603300]

>>17603256
wages go up when you get a better job or learn more skills or work harder or work more.

[Anonymous No.17603303]

>>17603289
well yeah they don't teach you redneck cope in college. But I've seen enough of country living to know that they are not surviving the current world we're living in, and definitely won't survive if it all collapsed. They wouldn't even survive the collapse of walmart.

[Anonymous No.17603305]

>>17603274
I mean, they’ll probably be better off generally speaking. It’s a simple population density equation. You have more people and less land and resources. Ain’t too many people living in apartments with generators and hunting property and farms. Would you disagree if there was a power outage similar to Texas a few years ago that you would be better off in rural Texas than downtown Dallas ?

[Anonymous No.17603306]

>>17603294
>personal experiences aren't relevant
okay mr intellectual. welcome to reality. glad i moved where i did. you sound unhappy.

[Anonymous No.17603313]

>>17603305
>lets just stack millions of people on top of eachother
>they all have differing weird ass beliefs
>don't know eachother names
>power goes out
>food stops
>"oh no culture and community totally don't matter"
>wew
>dark timeline

[Anonymous No.17603315]

>>17603289
That's because it's a line from a Hank Williams song you fucking yokel.

[Anonymous No.17603322]

>>17603300
Anon this is how it's supposed to work but the current reality we live in is that you work less the more you're paid. I could list all my jobs in 25 years from fast food all the way to a corporate middle manager position and if I put that list in the order of difficulty it would be inverse to the level of pay. Society is fucked because our broken system pretends to value hard work and strive to be a meritocracy, but it's really just about shoving burden and work down the line.

[Anonymous No.17603326]

>>17603315
>/mu/ autist offended

[Anonymous No.17603332]

>>17603322
Similar experience, I grew up in the city and bagged groceries for 4 years. After college I moved to rural America and wfh. I make 159,000$/yr and i work about 8 hours a week. Instead of fighting the system I just took the I just wanna grill pill and joined it and manipulated it to benefit me

[Anonymous No.17603339]

>>17603303
city people (at least usa) are already so fucked culturaly its beyond repair. you shit where you walk. you feed addiction. you burn down your own businesss. you accept tyranny. yet you fail to admit and possibly (i don't know if you really see it or just playing your weird head games) validate your own collapse in real time. yet you come here and claim you will survive any sort of elevated scenario based on skill alone... wew that is some cope.

[Anonymous No.17603345]

>>17603322
i hear you life is tough but never give into communist ideology. these people will NEVER be happy and will always find ANOTHER thing that isn't fair and one day it will be you. have balls yes but fuck communist bullshit.

[Anonymous No.17603347]

>>17603305
>>17603313
This kind of thinking assumes a lot but if you look to examples of countries and times where this kind of collapse actually happened, it doesn't really play out like that. At most you get people gradually moving out into those rural areas more, and you get more people forming closer communities in the highly populated cities. You see that happen during hard financial times. The idea they'd all just decend into savage chaos is nonsense. Usually they just keep moving as if nothing has broken because in reality the functions of a city will still continue one. Wallstreet folks can be out begging but the garbage man will still have work to do.

[Anonymous No.17603351]

>>17598769
Cool bag but don't you need a working microwave for that meal?

[Anonymous No.17603354]

>>17603347
we're in a culture war anon. dems have destroyed blue cities and they're coming for yours. and they cannot admit how fucking stupid they are. like children.

[Anonymous No.17603358]

>>17603345
> I hear you life is tough but I have been programmed to think everything is communisms so that I'll never do anything that might improve the broken system we're living in
>when someone even suggest fixing things I know they're really just trying to turn us communist

[Anonymous No.17603363]

>>17603358
start with changing yourself. life lesson.

[Anonymous No.17603365]

>>17603326
I like Hank but I'm not going to take life advice from that drunk.

[Anonymous No.17603366]

>>17603354
This is rural fantasy to cope with being irrelevant in all but noise.

[Anonymous No.17603369]

>>17603365
honestly i didn't even know that. i just heard the saying since i moved here over a decade ago.

[Anonymous No.17603373]

>>17603366
>irrelevant
https://youtu.be/ANA8SI_KvqI

[Anonymous No.17603375]

>>17603339
I live rural and he's right. A good chunk of these people are fucked when the drugs run out. Not even speaking of food.

[Anonymous No.17603388]

>>17603347
I agree that it won’t be a “quick burn” and all of the sudden we’ll have gangs of feral city scum bags roaming the suburbs walking dead style looking for loot. Again, I just want kind of generally want to be ready in the case of a natural disaster or power outage. There’s a huge difference between this and being some gas mask wearing boogaloo larger prepper haha. For someone who doesn’t want city people stereotyped, you seem to be stereotyping some one who lives 30 minutes from the nearest grocery store and wants to make sure their baby has formula if there is a weeklong power outage

[Anonymous No.17603392]

>>17603375
i moved to a small 80% white town out of a large east coast city and its night and day. i've never even encountered a drunk person on the street.

[Anonymous No.17603403]

>>17603392
They stay in their houses correct.

[Anonymous No.17603405]

>>17603388
people who do that stereotype shit are just trying to simplify the conversation. where you can clearly see he is reading npc scripts. probably thought trump was racist. probably hates all cops. cannot objectively judge by the content of character.

[Anonymous No.17603416]

>>17603403
not my business nor who would i honestly know what people are doing in their house?

[Anonymous No.17603417]

>>17603339
Anon none of that is real. That's all nonsense made up to push your buttons and make you feel superior despite being nothing but a burden on society.

Feed addiction? The worst drug problems right now are with rural areas with either meth or opioids.

Shitting where you walk? Try where you sleep. My experience with rural life was that there was a subset of rednecks even other rednecks looked down on and called "shitcrickers" because of the literal shit creek they had running through their trailer park, not due to poor drainage, but because they created it.

And to talk about burning down businesses. I get idiots like you talking about my city being burnt down when there were riots but there was literally one building that was trashed and has since had a community center built on top of it.

Everything you believe about cities is just cope while around you there are no more factories, not more jobs, everyone is an addict or retired, farms are corporate owned and run, walmart is the only place to shop, and everyone buys scratchers and smokes Marlboros thinking tomorrow they'll be a winner. Then they spend their EBT on cheetos and complain about it being a welfare state.

But you need to believe this fantasy about life in the cities being awful and culturally awful and morally awful and on the verge of collapse. Because if it falls apart you'll be less unimportant.

[Anonymous No.17603420]

>>17603405
cope

[Anonymous No.17603425]

>>17603417
cope and seethe

[Anonymous No.17603427]

>>17603425
ok shitcricker.

[Anonymous No.17603433]

>>17603417
okay whatever. adults see the numbers retard. do you even own a home? la alone had the 2nd biggest population lose over the past year and its like the top city in usa.

https://www.cbsnews.com/losangeles/news/california-reports-population-loss-for-second-straight-year/

numbers don't lie. my grandfather build $EAST_COAST_CITY i left. i watched it die for 25 years and left. fuck your intellectual bullshit.

[Anonymous No.17603437]

>>17603358
>thinking he can make a difference

Lmao what are you 23 years old? Hahaha

[Anonymous No.17603455]

>>17603417
you sound like you might have a career as a buzzfeed writer. general advice you might want to pursue that.

[Anonymous No.17603457]

>>17603416
I talk my neighbors. After a few years you get to know peoples habits. There nothing wrong with drinking your life away if you choose to. I'm not judging them.
Anyhows it's the opioid addicts that are the problem. And meth to a less extent. It's not the majority of the people but they sure can make things worse when people or places have a downturn.

[Anonymous No.17603458]

>>17603417
This turned from “you shouldn’t stock up on supplies when you go into town” to “cities are great!” Real quick. You may convince some other but for me personally I’ve lived in both and prefer rural life. You take the good with the bad and there’s more pros out here than there was in the city, especially with kids and property taxes alone

[Anonymous No.17603462]

>>17603433
>it's always about california
>the conversation is about cities but he talks about california like it's not only a giant city but the only one
>california doesn't have a lot of rural areas
You are actually retarded.

What's even more hilarious is that the thing they were saying was "big news" in that article is that there was a decline in population at all. Not a major one, but at all. Because it has been a place with a dramatically rising population for years.

[Anonymous No.17603469]

>>17603458
children like cites because theres more "stuff to do" and waste your money on then complain. they only things positive about cities are jobs and education and most of that is overrated.

[Anonymous No.17603472]

>>17603458
Anon the literal start of this argument I was having with that anon was that he said the reason to stock up was because cities are awful and going to collapse and that what's important is the country boy mindset and not being able to grow food.

So don't pretend I'm the one who turned it into an argument like this.

[Anonymous No.17603478]

>>17603462
california is also the liberal utopia the left aspires to. it has the most taxes, the most problems, and the most expatriats. cope. the only people who thrive there are your faggot thought (cult) leaders

[Anonymous No.17603480]

>>17603469
>them city folk and their electric lights and movie theaters being all easily distracted!

[Anonymous No.17603484]

>>17603480
>being this wired into globohomo
it all makes sense

[Anonymous No.17603488]

>>17603478
>california is also the liberal utopia the left aspires to
no Europe is you retard. And the northwest is the real liberal haven of the US. California is a mixed bag. You're too drunk on /pol/ bullshit and don't know what's real and what's just a cope.

California is about money and glamor. That's it. They keep making a show of supporting liberal bills they never pass. They actually have a fairly large conservative population who are just outvoted but not be as big a number as you think.

[Anonymous No.17603493]

>>17603488
california is cultural and political rot. it's literal cancer. la is the literal worst place on earth to live. and the numbers show you literally cannot refute this. only rich people go there so retards like you will suck their dick.

[Anonymous No.17603515]

>>17603493
You've clearly never lived there so I'm not going to trust some anonymous faggot

[Anonymous No.17603519]

>>17603493
You can keep parroting that nonsense but california lives rent free in your head. Regardless of your obsession with them, they aren't where every US city is located.

You know where that population loss is going? Into other US cities. Who is growing? Texas is growing a lot. Where are they growing? In their cities. Rural areas in texas and elsewhere are still in a state of decay and perpetual brain drain.

[Anonymous No.17603533]

>>17603515
>clearly never lived there
thank god

[Anonymous No.17603546]

>>17603533
>this far away place is terrible based on things other people told me
>I trust that the numbers showing a very slight decline in population over a short period of time validate my belief
>I won't look into how big of a decline this is relative to their dramatic growth over the last two decades
>I won't look into whether this is in their cities or rural areas due to wildfires
>I won't look into whether this is happening in other "super liberal" cities or if this is just one place
Literally just a drone believing what you're fed huh.

[Anonymous No.17603548]

>>17603519
ain't parroting shit. just proving to this asshole with numbers that everyone is fleeing blue states because liberals are fucking children.

[Anonymous No.17603555]

>>17603546
ain't no drone bitch. chose and paid for where i live consciously. no one cares about california if it wasn't for your food exports. you sound like a nyc fag. you liberal faggots think the world revolves around you.

[Anonymous No.17603577]

>>17603546
youre pussies, faggots, hypocrites, insufferable, whiners. my brother lives in a neighbor state and you assholes are not welcome there either. cope.

[Anonymous No.17603580]

>>17603548
Numbers of what? The conversation was about cities vs rural areas and you said "look at california, they have had a population drop in the last two years".

That's your only "number". It means nothing. California has a joke of a housing market, and overly inflated rent prices. Meanwhile their rural towns catch fire every year. Those are what are driving people away.

>o one cares about california if it wasn't for your food exports
>you sound like a nyc fag
make up your mind am I your rent free commifornia or evil corrupt new york?

I'm actually from St. Louis and implied that when talking about how they rebuilt that one building that burnt down in riots. But I guess you don't read.

[Anonymous No.17603585]

>>17603580
>Those are what are driving people away.
ahaha imagine being this clueless. man you don't know shit about reality.

[Anonymous No.17603586]

>>17603577
>rent free california
>I have a brother that lives nearby this is how I'm an expert on them being bad all over
I probably live further away from them than you, you're just a schizo ranting about a place that exists rent free in your head.

[Anonymous No.17603594]

>>17603585
Anon where are those people going to? Did you think to check?

[Anonymous No.17603602]

>>17603586
no one likes cali expats you fuck. its all over social media.

[Anonymous No.17603604]

>>17603594
rich people in cali are going to other cities with less tyrannical governments.

[Anonymous No.17603609]

>>17603580
you're a hard headed full of shit faggot who likes to run his mouth

[Anonymous No.17603819]

>>17603067
>>17603082
holly shit, someone with a brain!

[Anonymous No.17603871]

I'm not a prepper, but I do bulk buy and I am a bit obsessive about having what I need. I've always liked a bargain and if I feel the price is good I go in hard. I've always been stressed about incoming inflation (I trade stocks and have been waiting for this to come to be fair) so I don't really care about buying enough of something to last a year or more if the price is good, it'll only get more expensive. Rice and flour I buy in sacks and store in plastic drums. Canned goods I buy a case and keep only a few cans in the kitchen. I rotate stock so I've one case I'm using, one I have as stock waiting to be used next. I bulk buy beans and pasta too. If I have access to water and can cook in some fashion I would be able to feed our family of three for at least a year on what is in the house. I've got more than staples too, cooking oil, nuts, spices, coffee, protein powder, cereals etc. This is excluding the freezer which would extend things a lot. I've usually got two weeks of refrigerated food and work 7-10 days on very perishable stuff, but potatoes, onions, eggs, cheeses, stuff like that I'm at least a month on hand. We also have quite extensive vegetable gardens and a greenhouse alongside some outdoor hydroponics and while at this time of the year I'm limited (salad vegetable and kale really) it won't be very long before we are almost self sufficient (if you wanted to live on it) and this lasts all summer. I can hundreds of lbs of tomatoes each year, peppers, soft fruits etc.

[Anonymous No.17603892]

>>17598712
I plan to just go hobo mode and go off into the forest to eat wild greens and hunt hogs.

[Anonymous No.17603920]

>>17603347
>because in reality the functions of a city will still continue
>the garbage man will still have work to do

I don't think you understand what societal collapse is.