/ck/ - Food & Cooking

[Anonymous No.17538948]

Why are Americans si fucking scared of salt?

[Anonymous No.17538953]

>>17538948
competing interests among the grabblers

[Anonymous No.17538988]

No seriously, ive never seen any other people getting triggered by salt so much...
They eat absolute fucking garbage mostly, but for some reason they are really hung up on >muh sodium intake
Even seeing some MSG makes them scream in terror, wtf?

[Anonymous No.17539029]

>>17538948
>scared of salt
He's never seen the salt in a big mac and fries

[Anonymous No.17539032]

>>17538948
Says who?

>>17538988
>he needs MSG for his food to taste food
lol

[Anonymous No.17539034]

Because the sugar industry teamed up with the American Heart Association to blame salt for Americans dying of heart disease

[Anonymous No.17539060]

Because they've told that adding salt to their food will make them get a heart attack

[Anonymous No.17539159]

Salt seems to be the new cholesterol for retarded boomers and soccer moms to panic over

[Anonymous No.17539250]

first it was fat
then it was msg
now its salt
whats the next thing to be demonized to our detriment?

[Anonymous No.17539257]

>>17538953
>grabbler

Based terminology.

OB fan?

[Anonymous No.17539260]

>>17538988
Americans are extremely obese and therefore are already at a very high risk of hypertension. Sodium compounds this risk.

[Anonymous No.17539262]

Retarded boomer here. After hibernating in my coof cave for almost 2 years my blood pressure was 150/100 and cholesterol was through the roof. I'm now on a handful of pills to try and keep my ticker from crapping out while I drop weight and exercise back into some other shape than round. The cheese omelettes I cooked were fantastic, but I'm paying for them now. So switch to a Mediterranean diet and throttle back on salt and other things that can spike blood pressure. Also fish oil pills, Yum!

[Anonymous No.17539266]

>>17539262
>he takes rancid concentrated pufa oil
ngmi

[Anonymous No.17539273]

>>17539250
they've been trying to take down red meat too for a while

[Anonymous No.17539279]

>>17539266
It's doctor recommended. My cardiologist suggested I take them.

[Anonymous No.17539299]

>>17539279
yeah i know but its a jewish trick, i used to take it too. just take a baby aspirin.

if you got the goy jab disregard anything i say, i cant convince you of anything

[Anonymous No.17539394]

>>17539299
>if you aren't a schizo retarded faggot don't bother taking my half cooked brain nursing home advice
got it, I forgot that the russian bots on /pol/ know more than doctors

[Anonymous No.17539401]

>>17538948
Salt isn't inherently bad, but it's still possible to have too much. Most processed food has too much salt, and most Americans eat a lot of processed food. It's easier to just focus on the salt content instead of giving up processed foods altogether.

[Anonymous No.17539412]

>>17539034
This.

[Anonymous No.17539447]

>>17538948
They're like slugs. They'll shrivel up and die while shitting even more profusely than usual.

[Anonymous No.17539449]

>>17539394
>all doctors agree and if they dont theyre russian puppets
okay...

[Anonymous No.17540567]

>>17538948
Honestly, I suspect it was their sugar industry trying to deflect attention away from the obvious problem.

t. worked as a doctor in two other Anglo countries, neither of which give a shit about salt as long as you don't have organ failure

[Anonymous No.17540576]

>>17540567
> t. worked as a doctor
What kind of doctor? a dermatologist?
Salt reduction is a 10 year old recommendation in every part of the first world

[Anonymous No.17540703]

>>17540576
emergency, so I'm not lying when I say I truly do not give a shit about your brainwashing.

[Anonymous No.17540729]

once I slightly oversalted dinner and my dad got into a huge huff, asked if I was trying to kill him. if you try to argue this belief at all with him, he shuts the conversation down with an extremely firm "well salt killed my father"

[Anonymous No.17540740]

>>17540729
"no it didn't you fool"
lol, get fucked

[Anonymous No.17540750]

>>17540740
I am not going to call my father a fool or condescend to him about things that happened in his life when I was a mere baby

he's wrong but I still owe him respect

[Anonymous No.17540767]

>>17540750
You owe it to him to call him out on bullshit when he's being an idiot and potentially harming himself with bullshit salt fear

[Anonymous No.17540772]

>>17540767
I disagree with him all the time, but "calling him out on his bullshit" is not the appropriate way. he's not my buddy, he's my father

[Anonymous No.17540842]

>>17540703
Calling the last 10 years and more of nutrition science consensus "brainwashing" makes you a retard actually

[Anonymous No.17540854]

ketards chimping about sugar... the cycle continues. meanwhile Peaters know the truth

[Anonymous No.17540879]

>>17538948
Colombian here, we are not scared by salt at all, not all americans are scared of that, ask Bolivians, they are not scared also. What the fuck are you talking about. Mexicans aren´t scared by salt either.

[Anonymous No.17540881]

>>17540842
nutrition science consensus said eat 10 servings of pasta and cereal 10 yrs ago lmao

[Anonymous No.17540882]

>>17539034
The same American Heart Association that advises against excessive sugar intake? Why are ketotards like this?

[Anonymous No.17540903]

>>17540882
Because they need to pretend that health authorities somehow encourage sugar consumption so that they can say "well, if they are telling you to eat sugar, which is harmful, then they can't be trusted when they advise against excessive meat/salt/fat intake".

[Anonymous No.17540913]

>>17540881
>it's another "fattie doesn't understand the food pyramid and blames it for the health issues of people who don't follow it" episode

[Anonymous No.17540922]

>>17540881

[Anonymous No.17540958]

>>17540882
>ketotards
it's just "ketards", actually

[Anonymous No.17541242]

>>17538948
Because everything we eat is already packed to the brim with salt we can't afford to take in any more

[Anonymous No.17542071]

>>17538948
I don't think they are, judging by how much of it they consume on average.

[Anonymous No.17542417]

>>17538948
I'm American and I have to eat extra sodium so no fear of salt but I'm sick of the taste. Shit sucks honestly.

My doctor even prescribes potato chips.

[Anonymous No.17542471]

>>17538948
I use it everyday

[Anonymous No.17542485]

>>17542417
A lot of your personal doctors probably want to keep you from ever seeing your feet, and keeping your diabetes uncontrollable.
It's called "job security."

[Anonymous No.17542505]

>>17539266
Everything is a conspiracy to Chris Chan

[Anonymous No.17542632]

>>17542417
Is your doctor named House?

[Anonymous No.17542661]

>>17542485
Not diabetic or overweight

>>17542632
I wish

[Anonymous No.17542666]

>>17542661
What kind of problem do you have that you have to increase sodium intake?
Do you have low blood pressure?

[Anonymous No.17542675]

>>17538948
the fuck are talkin bout? i put like around half a salt shaker on my popcorn, i had heart palpitations halfway through but i stuck it out and followed through

[Anonymous No.17542942]

>>17540842
>nutrition science

[Anonymous No.17542959]

>>17542942
I hate to point it out, but DailyMail editorial articles aren't "science", and PubMed citations aren't proof of actual research.

[Anonymous No.17542980]

>>17542959

I hate to point this out but you'll get the same bullshit from the AMA.

[Anonymous No.17542981]

>>17542959
neither are peer-reviewed articles

[Anonymous No.17543014]

hmmmm

[Anonymous No.17543348]

>>17542942
That's exactly why scientific consensus is more important than publication

It's not that hard to understand you cretin

[Anonymous No.17543373]

>>17539262
Were you eating a lot of other junk food? Drinking lots of soda or alcohol? Cheese omelettes can be high in calories but I've never really seen anyone binge on them to the point of gaining a lot of weight compared to junk food/alcohol.

[Anonymous No.17543484]

>>17543373
I drink four cans of PBR an evening, does that count?

[Anonymous No.17544091]

>>17538948
i buy stick pretzels just to nibble the salt off and throw out the pretzel, sometimes i pretend i'm a beaver while doing it

[Anonymous No.17544093]

>>17543484
Yes, that's 600 calories.

[Anonymous No.17544101]

>>17544093
not him but one time i survived off of nothing but bud light and raisin bran for two months because i was snowed in.

[Anonymous No.17544108]

all of our processed food is filled to the brim with salt so when someone tries to cook theyre scared and think any salt at all is bad

[Anonymous No.17544123]

>>17538948
If Americans eat as much fast and processed food as the rest of the world jokes about, they're always eating an excess amount of salt.
Heart disease is a top killer in the states.

[Anonymous No.17544170]

We don't move enough to discrete to sodium out of our body.

[Anonymous No.17544174]

>salt liberally
I don't think so bud.
I'm not a fucking LIBTARD.

[Anonymous No.17544771]

>>17538948
You should use half salt and half msg in your cooking like in China to be honest

[Anonymous No.17545021]

>>17538948
their hearts are weak so any slight increase in blood pressure might kill them

[Anonymous No.17545080]

>>17539260
Salt lowers the risk for 80% of people. My fellow Americans are just all retarded sheep who trust the science.TM

[Anonymous No.17545081]

>>17544174
I'd rather be a libtard than a stupid frogposter any day of the week.

[Anonymous No.17545129]

>>17545080
>Salt lowers the risk for 80% of people.
[citation needed]

[Anonymous No.17545140]

>>17545129
Fine. A little exaggeration from memory. https://www.westonaprice.org/health-topics/abcs-of-nutrition/salt-and-our-health/

[Anonymous No.17545145]

>>17539250
Seed oils

[Anonymous No.17545168]

>>17544174
I only salt reactionarily

[Anonymous No.17545622]

>>17545140
yeah, so it's 30%. And we are talking about a writeup of a single study.
To be clear, I don't give a shit about the health aspects of eating sodium but it's funny how you rant about people being "sheep" and still manage to post stupid shit like this. Most people think of others just like you and they are fucking retarded just like you.

[Anonymous No.17545639]

you yanks still shitting yourselves over salt in here?

show me a meta-analysis that demonstrates a non-insane salt intake causing a blood pressure rise of 10mmHg in healthy individuals and I'll, well, laugh at your brainwashing again...

[Anonymous No.17545680]

>>17545639
>show me evidence and I'll laugh and ignore it anyway
Why even admit that in the same post

[Anonymous No.17545693]

>>17545680
>replies anyway
you. you are the reason.

[Anonymous No.17545709]

>>17545693
You defeat yourself in your own post

[Anonymous No.17545713]

>>17545709
I've literally seen a never convincing meta-analysis posted by you scared little dudes, and yet you can't help but reply. brb, salting my toast.

[Anonymous No.17545724]

>>17545639
>healthy individuals
Salt makes you an unhealthy individual. It raises blood pressure which is not good for the heart in the long run and makes your veins like water hosepipes. And fucking kill yourself.

[Anonymous No.17545725]

>>17545713
I wouldn't doubt you have and just, like you said, laughed it off

[Anonymous No.17545731]

>>17538948
I'm not scared of salt

[Anonymous No.17545734]

>>17545724
>salt makes you an unhealthy individual
honestly, the shit you worried yanks come out with. salt is waaaay down the list of what's wrong with your diet over there. worry about never eating fresh vegetables, or eating tree the calories and ten times the recommended sugar intake first. worry about salt when you can buy groceries without using a mobility scooter.

[Anonymous No.17545739]

>>17545725
never seen one, my man, and I've been in these threads for years and practising for longer. seen a lot of angry fat people without sources, though, and that's what I'm here for.

alright, I'll check back in in a couple days, have fun in here.

[Anonymous No.17545740]

>>17538948
Disinformation and the useful idiots peddling it.

It's almost impossible to eat so much salt that it actually fucks you up. You have no real way of storing sodium in your body long term, and your kidneys just filter out any excess you consume. The true cause of heart disease will never become mainstream knowledge because preventing disease is less profitable than pretending you're treating it.

[Anonymous No.17545751]

>>17545724
I've read it doesn't affect everyone the same way. And that about 25% of the population is sensitive to salt in that way, 50% only experiences that at much higher levels of salt intake, and some people can eat all the salt they want with no effect.

[Anonymous No.17545755]

>>17543348
>That's exactly why scientific consensus is more important than publication
And neither are worth a dime.

[Anonymous No.17545763]

>>17545740
>You have no real way of storing sodium in your body long term, and your kidneys just filter out any excess you consume
This applies to pretty much everything you eat, including sugar. It's the damage done when your body is trying to sort it out is the problem. Do that 3 times a day for decades and you develop health problems.

[Anonymous No.17545768]

>>17545740
>The true cause of heart disease will never become mainstream knowledge because preventing disease is less profitable than pretending you're treating it.
I think they've figured it out, bro

[Anonymous No.17545770]

>>17545724
Heavy salting was used as a preservative for an awfully long time, but heart disease only became a noticeable issue at the start of the 20th century.

>>17545763
>This applies to pretty much everything you eat, including sugar
Sugar is just a carbohydrate (see: glucose (see: energy)) which your body is extremely good at storing, anon. Around 500g between the blood, liver, and muscle tissue, and the rest goes straight to adipose tissue.

[Anonymous No.17545785]

>>17545770
>Sugar is just a carbohydrate (see: glucose (see: energy)) which your body is extremely good at storing, anon. Around 500g between the blood, liver, and muscle tissue, and the rest goes straight to adipose tissue.
It doesn't stay sugar then, it converts to fat if not used. I'm saying the damage of sugar comes after the meal when your body is getting the excess out of your blood. This is also the case with salt and fat. It's the postprandial effect that fucks things up. This is true even separate from salt's effects on blood pressure.
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/23263240/

[Anonymous No.17545789]

>>17545768
But what causes that buildup inside the walls of your arteries? I heard a really interesting theory from Ivor Cummins that the plaque buildup actually comes from outside the artery, not from the inside.

And most of what gets built up is foam cells, which are just immune system macrophages that have eaten damaged cells that were filled with fat, and now that fatty macrophage is stuck there for whatever reason until your HDL clears it. The root question is what damaged cells are the macrophages eating, and what damaged them. The answer is they're lipoproteins damaged by glycation/oxydation which can no longer return to the liver, so they're left floating in your body to eventually be scooped up by macrophages.

This then leads into discussions about the effects of glucose (see: carbs) and highly processed (see: oxidised) food on the body.

[Anonymous No.17545818]

>>17545789
>But what causes that buildup inside the walls of your arteries? I heard a really interesting theory from Ivor Cummins that the plaque buildup actually comes from outside the artery, not from the inside.
I don't understand why people search the depths of the internet for the most retarded medical theories when there are resources out there to actually learn about this stuff.
https://academic.oup.com/eurheartj/article/41/24/2313/5735221
Heart disease isn't a mystery. A lot of research has gone into it. They've experimentally induced heart disease in dozens of animal species and it works the same in all of them.

[Anonymous No.17545869]

>>17538948
Have you ever seen Americans at a dinner table and there's only one salt shaker?

Not pretty...

[Anonymous No.17545875]

>>17545818
>oxLDL
>bystander

[Anonymous No.17545890]

>>17545875
Research didn't stop in the 70s. Their reasoning is on the right side.

[Anonymous No.17545915]

>>17539257
Zoomer

[Anonymous No.17545952]

>>17545890
Whose? The pic is not from the Borén paper, which agrees that oxLDL is necessary.

[Anonymous No.17546745]

>>17538948
I'm American and even I don't get why so many of my fellow burger-land residents are so repulsed by it. They treat it with the kind of disdain and anti-reverence as if you said you were literally eating powdered cancer.

[Anonymous No.17547918]

>>17538988
Checked and reichpilled.

[Anonymous No.17548456]

>>17538948
>>17538988
the fuck are you talking about?
americans are salt fiends, everything here is absolutely loaded with sodium

[Anonymous No.17548482]

Because Americans don't drink water so even a gram of salt can cause serious complications. Took me forever to realise i was getting cramps all the time because I drink 5L of water a day. Once i started adding even more salt to everything i eat it sorted itself out

[Anonymous No.17548499]

>>17538948
>he fell for mainstream media shilling
there's tons of salt in most food and the majority don't give a fuck.

[Anonymous No.17548544]

>>17538948
>eating rocks
do yuropoors REALLY?

[Anonymous No.17548551]

>>17548456
But they dont know about that, it's just from the can. That's why they had to be trained to think that salt will kill, because any more salt in their diet will kill them

[Anonymous No.17548591]

>>17538948
we're not but I can't ingest too much anymore due to high blood pressure.

[Anonymous No.17549178]

>>17545081

[Anonymous No.17549290]

>>17538988
cool it with those digits hitler

[Anonymous No.17549316]

>>17538948
The government tells us to. Just like how they told us to be scared of sat fat.

[Anonymous No.17549326]

>>17549178
kys frogshit

[Anonymous No.17549329]

>>17538948
Salt rottens the marrow in your bones, anon.

[Anonymous No.17549341]

>>17549326
Cry more tranny