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17492073 No.17492073 [Reply] [Original]

Thinking about going vegan, like 80 percent of what I eat includes hotdogs. How are these? What would I have to do for honey mustard or cheese? use like corn syrup with yellow mustard? what about just getting some of that popcorn cheese powder and mixing it with fake milk to make a sauce? Also is spaghetti vegan? Pretty much if I'm not eating hot dogs it's spaghetti.

>> No.17492101

I've never had a vegan "sausage" that wasn't absolutely revolting.
The sins they have to commit to make the tofu or whatever bite and snap like a real sausage just make them taste like vinyl.

>> No.17492112
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17492112

I love me some SoyBoy NOT DOGS ill tell you what

>> No.17492113

>>17492101
I don't like them to snap. I normally boil my digs.

>> No.17492141

>>17492073

I had vegan hotdog once, it was about 20 years ago so I'm sure things have changed, but I cannot forget the disgust of biting into it and just going clear through the sausage with no resistance or pull you'd normally get. It was very gross.

Also why the fuck would you go vegan only to eat fake, heavily processed versions of meat?

>> No.17492151
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17492151

vegan sausages vary pretty widely, your best bet is to just try a few different ones until you land on a favourite. pic related is mine but it probably isn't available in your region. the most common replacement for honey i see is agave nectar. not sure what kind of cheese you're looking for but any sort of shop with health food aspirations should have different varieties in stock. dry packaged pasta tends to be vegan, when it comes to fresh pasta there's usually egg so just check your ingredients.

>> No.17492153

Not all vegans don't eat honey

>> No.17492217

>>17492141
a lot changes in 20 years.

>> No.17492225
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17492225

>SOYBOY brand notdogs

>> No.17492226

>>17492141
>Also why the fuck would you go vegan only to eat fake, heavily processed versions of meat?
Because you're low IQ enough to go vegan in the first place. It's not like good decision making skills are your forte

>> No.17492236

>>17492226
IQ means fuck all. It's just potential. You still have to learn things. And meatheads are uneducated chimps who believe pictures on the internet.

>> No.17492241

>>17492236
Keep thinking that, dummy

>> No.17492260

why dont you just eat real food instead

>> No.17492280

>>17492236
>mega cope

>> No.17492321
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17492321

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T-xQHLhHQJ0

>> No.17492334

>>17492151
I just want to be able have a chili cheese dogs but ketchup on those is a no no and regular mustard is gross.

>>17492141
That's the texture I like though for another dog.
>why would you eat a heavily processed and fake version of something that is heavily processed and fake
I don't know, I want to, hot dogs are gross when you think about it and I don't want to eat gross things.

>> No.17492337

>>17492141
After you've been vegan for a few years accidentally biting into a frankfurter that someone told you was veggie is even more disgusting than the synthetic tofu taste of a cheap veggie dog. I imagine that most non-vegans would find hotdogs inedible without the salt and liquid smoke.
>fake, heavily processed versions of meat
Yeah, it's stupid, but it's also a way to eat greasy salty comfort foods from childhood without supporting Tyson or Cargill. It's on par with collecting funko pops or watching Marvel movies.

>> No.17492347

>>17492337
>thinks they are making a difference because of the kind of hotdogs they buy

>> No.17492391

No issue with vegetarians. Various cultures have managed to do that successfully for thousands of years. Veganism is some unnecessary hard line attention seeking shit that is not only barely sustainable, but only possible for those with a privileged background. It is when the choices deny logic for idealism. It is when you become an ideologue I guess. Very few people need to define their world view and personality by their minor consumer preferences. Oh by all means use almost the best of everything on earth created through and sustained by past and present exploitation, but a previously used leather belt? An abomination, bring a fresh plastic one, ideally by plane, from a country with human rights let alone animal ones. The real icing on the cake for me is what was previously portrayed as an 'edgy' anti establishment anti authoritarian position, outside of the mainstream, steeped in radicalism etc has now been cooped so much that they literally will eat and discuss how progressive it is to eat highly processed rubbish manufactured by companies who made and continue to make almost all of their profits from animal products and exploitation. Like it was a bat shit, but legit movement which recognised its position as radical and anti establishment. A chance to demonstrate it is possible to radically alter peoples eating habits? I at least can understand and somewhat respect that, but now?

>> No.17492406

Field roast is by far the best vegan sausage I've ever had. Pretty good micros too.

>> No.17492425

Guys, I'm asking specifically about hot dogs, not sausages in general. I'm not going to make stuffed hotdogs with a kielbasa or use salami for hot dog soup.

>> No.17492427

>>17492073
There is nothing more pathetic than a vegan or vegetarian who eats mock products designed to be "like" meat products. You should just go whole hog and change your eating habits try new things and develop a new taste for vegetable dishes, meals, and snacks.

>> No.17492429

>>17492073
>Thinking about going vegan
why

>> No.17492434

>>17492427
>you should eat food that some random person on the internet wants you to eat or he'll judge you
k, I'll stop eating the things I enjoy because you don't enjoy them.

>>17492429
I want to.

>> No.17492443

>>17492391
I don't understand why people make posts like these or think this way. The whole point of vegetarianism is contradictory if you're doing it for ethics. The dairy industry cannot exist without raping cows and taking their babies from them. Male chicks have to be culled in the egg industry and females suffer horrible health side effects from over egg production. If you're going to do something for the animals, don't half ass it. Vegetarians are the biggest hypocrites on the planet.

>> No.17492463

>>17492073
Honey is ethically sourced, you're in the clear. Vegan Hot Dogs fucking blow though, and marianted + roasted/grilled carrots make for a better stand in. As long as you aren't adding meat, spaghetti is vegan.

>> No.17492512
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>>17492073
>80 percent of what I eat includes hotdogs

>> No.17492524

>>17492434
but what are your reasons, morals or for your health?

>> No.17492525

>>17492443
Being a vegetarian doesn't automatically mean you eat dairy. It doesn't automatically mean you eat eggs. It doesn't automatically mean you wear leather shoes or fur or ride a fucking donkey to work. You might say "well, then if you do none of these things then you are a vegan", but no, you aren't a vegan until you feel the need to to call yourself one. The point where you wish to identify with the 'movement'. That is the point, vegetarians have been making the best of the situation within the culture they find themselves within while having a personal set of ethics for thousands of years without issue. It is only vegans that have to force the situation to bend to them, whether or not it is optimal or the best situation. It is only vegans that have to have a group ethic. It is only vegans who have looked at the wider culture and decided it is wrong and must be rejected utterly as part of a movement, one which currently uses social media to engage with twitter bots pretending to be the 'human' representative of the corporation busy making processed shit to appease them. How effective is it to tackle EVERYTHING at the same time except late stage capitalism? Like ... somebody might be on board with the ethics, but they won't listen if you shame them for owning a dog. Own a leather wallet? Sure, it was my grandfathers, I must have had it for 20 years. Well that isn't the point, all acts are equally incorrect here except have you tried the new beyond meat kfc? Isn't it wonderful that we've come this far?

The point is a form of environmental fascism. Of course most people should eat way less meat and industrialised farming is likely going to kill us all through zoonosis. Choosing the reject all animal products outright as step one says first and foremost that you can afford to choose. Yes, increasing consumption is bad for the world, but it is really good for the developing world.

>> No.17492534

As I said the real issue is that veganism was initially a radial stance that had the chance to make a difference to the way people ate for the better. Instead it is now a pissing contest and a virtue signalling lifestyle choice.

>> No.17492548

>>17492073
>80 percent of what I eat includes hotdogs
Please post a list of what you eat in a typical week

>> No.17492552

>>17492443
Have you ever been to a farm or just watched some peta videos on youtube? It's not like that at all in most farms.
Well, I can't actually say it for third world countries like the USA, but the vast majority of the civilized world treat their animals right, for the sake of sanitary regulations; better yield of meat, eggs milk, etc; and because most farmer's actually prefer to treat their animals with some dignity.
>but I saw a video of little chicks thrown in the grinder!!!1!!
Yeah, and those beheading is videos showcase what happens everyday in all cities, right?

>> No.17492573

>>17492112
Is the Soy filter removed on /ck/ or something?

>> No.17492581

>>17492552
>>but I saw a video of little chicks thrown in the grinder!!!1!!
That happens in every chicken farm you goof. Male chicks are almost always culled.

>> No.17492588

Lol fucking retard, enjoy extinguishing your divine spark by not feed the flame with the soul of other living creatures

>> No.17492604

>>17492073
>more carbs than fat and protein
why

I've tried vegetarian hot dogs/sausages a few times. The flavor isn't bad, but the texture is usually softer even when panfried or broiled. But they never seem filling which I guess is because it doesn't have as much high quality protein and they're usually low in fat. I don't mind it once in a while though, and occasionally I enjoy going full vegan for a few weeks, but after that I start needing to at least have some dairy to not start feeling worse.

>> No.17492605

>>17492573
yep, can't have cooking without soy sauce

>> No.17492757

>>17492073
https://blog.fatfreevegan.com/2014/07/homemade-veggie-dogs.html

>> No.17492759

>>17492073
Make spag, tacos and chili with TVP

>> No.17492912

>>17492552
Please tell me how you can provide milk and eggs on a large scale without bringing harm to the animals. The only ethical way to get milk would be to wait for a cow to get naturally pregnant, and then hope her baby dies a natural death right after birth so it doesn't drink all of your milk. Not everybody has the space or time to tend to backyard eggs, so 99% of them are going to resort to store bought eggs, which are the same eggs which you get whenever you eat at a restaurant or buy any product with egg in it.

>>17492525
>Choosing the reject all animal products outright as step one says first and foremost that you can afford to choose.

Rice and beans are cheaper than meat, so I don't know why you think it's an economical decision. You're whole thing seems to be that veganism is "trendy" and you must do the opposite of everything mainstream media says because 4chan tells you to. Veganism is simply reducing animal suffering as much as reasonably possible. Nothing more and nothing less. Vegetarianism is just not eating meat.

>>17492534
It's pathetic that you would let all that suffering and horrific things happen just because you don't want to be misjudged as "virtue signaling". Let me guess, if vegans were nicer and didn't "force" their views on you, you would totally give it a shot right? It's their fault and not yours!

>> No.17493015

>>17492391
based and truthpilled

>> No.17493059

>>17492524
>morals or for your health?
neither

>>17492548
depends. I've got a lot of dishes I make. like one day I'll make typical hot dogs in a bin with some baked potatoes. Then I'll take the potatoes the next day or day after and mash them then make stuffed hot dogs. sometimes I'll slice them in coins and put them in canned biscuits so they look like those thumbprint cookies(or I'll slice them in half and put them in crescent rolls). Sometimes I'll make chili cheese dogs. Sometimes I'll slice them and saute them with sauerkraut and mix in some bbq sauce. sometimes I'll slice them and throw them in with ramen or a can of vegetable noodle soup. sometimes I eat them neat on a plate. I tried mincing them and making sloppy Joe's but I don't know, didn't taste right. other than that I'll boil spaghetti and mix in spaghetti sauce, sometimes with hot dogs on top.

>>17492588
none of the meat I've ever eaten has been living, it was all dead before it got to the store.

>>17492757
that's a lot of work, I like dogs because I can just pull them out of the pack.

>> No.17493099

Just be vegetarian you dip.

>> No.17493108

>>17493099
that doesn't solve the hot dog problem

>> No.17493111

I'm fine with vegetarian / vegan faggots self filtering and not eating meat. Lowers the demand and lowers the price for me so I can eat even more meat.

>> No.17493121

>>17493108
Yes it does. Eat your stupid soy dogs with honey mustard and vegetarian cheese.

>> No.17493125

>>17493111
there are more vegans and vegetarians now than ever before and meat cost more than ever, it's harder to come by and it's lower quality than it used to be.

>> No.17493133

>>17493121
that doesnt answer the question of how they are.

>> No.17493156

>>17493133
Doesn't really matter since you're going to drown them in honey mustard and cheese.

>> No.17493179

>>17493125
>doesn't understand basic economics
How many times have you donated to Bernie's presidential runs?

>> No.17493231

>>17492073
Try getting on Ritalin first.
Your questions are unrelated to common sense.
If you can find this shit, you can find egg free, cardboard tasting garbage

>> No.17493384

>>17493059
I've never seen a man love hot dogs this much.

>> No.17493398

>>17493384
Visit the random board sometime. They all love hot dogs, and people pretending to be "conservative" collect pictures of subhuman men in women's clothes

>> No.17493418

>>17493231
you can find egg free hotdogs every where you chucklefuck

>> No.17493429

>>17493398
Trans Women are real women dumbass

>> No.17493601

>>17493429
stop trolling

>> No.17493644

>>17493601
Shut up bigot

>> No.17493652
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>>17492573
It's never been on it.

/ck/ was one of the few boards spared.

>> No.17493706

>>17493156
only when I eat chili cheese dogs.

>>17493384
it's just convenient and more safe than some other meat options as far as bacteria goes.

>>17492759
>tacos, chili
gross. I've made both before and they don't taste good.

>> No.17494278

>>17493156
so if you out a piece of dogshit on a bum and put some mustard and cheese on it you wouldn't be able to realaize that it wasn't a hot dog?

>> No.17494318

>>17492443
Vegetarianism still typically results in less animals being killed. Most people aren't going to go vegan so you're just stopping them from making any improvements whatsoever. Feels like these arguments come from vegans trying to shame vegetarians into going vegan too, but that's probably not going to work. More people are excited for the idea of lab-grown meat than veganism because you're not forcing them to give something up.

>> No.17494618

>>17492912
In my group of friends the vegetarians generally never feel the need to bring it up unless they are describing something they love to cook or eat, generally they engage with the topic in positive ways. The vegans bring it up all the time, usually describing something they were denied or discussing how pissed off they are, generally the topic is focused around negativity. As an ideology is seems to have attracted and held my more irritating friends and there is often hypocrisy and double standards. Like my vegetarian friends might not do cocaine because it is bad for their health. I don't do cocaine because I think the production and supply makes it a crime against your fellow man. My vegan friends might do cocaine which is fine, whatever, but they won't shut the fuck up about how it doesn't negate their beliefs or how they are justified in doing cocaine because of all the good they do by being vegan or how it is basically vegan because it only harms humans etc. We might take a walk and I'll pack some sandwiches. My vegetarian friends will take a cheese sandwich. My vegan friends are lecturing me because I put the humus ones in the same container as the cheese ones. Fine, whatever, go without for your belief I can respect that ... nooo I'll take one, but I want to give you a hard time first and also constantly while I eat it and maybe later too.

In your post you demonstrate it pretty well. You seem unable to accept that ethical choices are possible outside of the ideology of veganism. Vegetarianism is just rice and beans, vegans let 'all that suffering and horrific things happen' too, they just refuse to partake while constantly letting you know about it whether you partake or not.

Some friends of mine eat almost no meat and have the smallest carbon footprints I know. But they don't go on and on about it and they don't lecture you. They don't need to call themselves anything or get praise for it either.

>> No.17494630

>>17494278
That's a bit extreme don't you think?

>> No.17494632

>>17494618
More animals die from the process of farming crops than than from simply eating them on a per calorie comparison. Literally need to wash the veggies from the threshed animal bits kol

>> No.17494742

>at best: rice, beans, and spices in a synthetic casing
>at worst: hydrogenated seed oils and 16 different forms of sugar
I can't make out the ingredients list, but I wouldn't risk it. Just make cabbage rolls and eat them on a bun if you need a vegan "hotdog".

>> No.17494772

>>17494632
This is a dumb argument because a lot of crops are grown just to feed animals.

>> No.17494975

>>17493652
A bastion of liberty shining bright in a sea of darkness.