/ck/ - Food & Cooking

[Anonymous No.17168873]

Is Veganism just s social status thing for dumb middle class trust fund kids, why would anyone get enjoyment from this lifestyle?

[Anonymous No.17168877]

I don't really care what other people do unless it directly affects me.

[Anonymous No.17168884]

you're just spreading their lifestyle by whining about them

[Anonymous No.17168885]

[Anonymous No.17168909]

>>17168873
It's practically a religion.
>Your life revolves around it
>Actively bring it up at the slightest notice
>Try to convert other people to it
>Refer to it as a belief
>Even if it's hurting you ignore the problems.

[Anonymous No.17168924]

>>17168873
You don't get enjoyment. It's just the responsible thing to do.

[Anonymous No.17168927]

I've been eating plant based for 5 years and I enjoy it. Before that I was a reckless alcoholic who mostly ate instant noodles and I felt like I wanted a change of lifestyle. I once got scolded by a vegan because I told her I do it for health reasons and not because I like animals (fuck animals). You'd be surprised how much in-fighting there are in these circles because of arrogant assholes who always tries to one up each other.

[Anonymous No.17168929]

>>17168927
well shunning ovo-vegetarians is based because eggs are definitely meat. but elitism among vegan diets is cringe autism.

[Anonymous No.17168960]

>>17168924
But don't you see young padawan, you derive enjoyment from the feeling that you're being responsible (and let's be honest, telling people about it and talking about how it's the only moral choice, and feeling better than the great unwashed)

also, cowe

[Anonymous No.17168985]

>>17168873
if you listen carefully only the vegans that are politically left are that type of crowd that behaves immaturely, and fanatically. They treat food how they treat politics, and they're the number 1 buyers of those imitation meat vegan junk foods that aren't healthy. usually the vegans that are more conservative are happy to just roast up some yummy veg in the oven and just enjoy eating it.

[Anonymous No.17168987]

>>17168873
they get enjoyment by feeling righteous and above the rest of the world with their cultist shit.

[Anonymous No.17169002]

vegan here. I don't want anyone to change their diet, but it would be nice if cows lived a nice happy life and then when killed, if it was quickly and painless. It's just sad because they live in really bad conditions and then most of the time their death is slow and painful because the methods used are not always effective. It's not pretty but at least if most or all of the suffering was avoided if at all possible, the world would be just a little bit different. that's all I ask for people to consider.

[Anonymous No.17169003]

>>17168985
no. gb2/pol/

[Anonymous No.17169020]

>>17169003
I think you are upset because I told the truth.

[Anonymous No.17169028]

>>17169020
>lmao u mad doe, white? yeh u mad
you are cancer.

[Anonymous No.17169036]

Vegan here, they do it because it's a philosophically correct position, and yes, all vegans do think they're better than you. Wouldn't you? Imagine living in a society where everyone beats their kids and you're the only one who doesn't. Even the vegans who say they don't care what you eat think you're a weak-willed retard and laugh at you behind your back.

[Anonymous No.17169057]

ketolard here
I jerk off to tranny porn

[Anonymous No.17169083]

>>17168927
>alcohol and instand noodles
You were already eating plant based

[Anonymous No.17169085]

>>17169036
>Vegan here, they do it because it's a philosophically correct position, and yes, all vegans do think they're better than you. Wouldn't you? Imagine living in a society where everyone beats their kids and you're the only one who doesn't. Even the vegans who say they don't care what you eat think you're a weak-willed retard and laugh at you behind your back.

100% sure this is not a real vegan, it's just too troll b8

>>17169028
>lmao u mad doe, white? yeh u mad
>you are cancer.
what

[Anonymous No.17169090]

>>17169036
>eating animals is bad because....it just IS, OKAY?!

[Anonymous No.17169098]

>>17169085
you're in every vegan thread autistically spouting your left/right political profiling propaganda. even if you're not the same person it's cancerous behavior.

[Anonymous No.17169101]

>>17169002
I wish niggers weren't so violent.

[Anonymous No.17169161]

>>17169098
>you're in every vegan thread autistically spouting your left/right political profiling propaganda. even if you're not the same person it's cancerous behavior.
I just think it's biased how the left is allowed to spew 900 billion metric giga shit tons of propaganda and lies all day every day while also pretending that they own veganism when they don't, but the moment that someone points how that hypocrisy and says "hey actually some of us vegans are not like those other ones" suddenly, that's not okay with you. I find that to be incredibly disingenuous and unfair, so I'll tell you what, you keep doing whatever it is you do, and I will keep doing what I do. eating vegetables and telling the truth, even if you don't want me to. alright? okay have a good one.

[Anonymous No.17169167]

>>17168909
What are you on about, retard? Most mentions of veganism here are posts lile yours derailing threads by sperging out.

[Anonymous No.17169175]

>>17168909
Look, a vegan or vegetarian lifestyle has been a core tenant of many religions and philosophical schools since around 500 BCE so that should come as no surprise.
The word here should be ideology not religion.

[Anonymous No.17169180]

>>17168929
Unfertilized eggs?

[Anonymous No.17169187]

>>17169002
Pigs and chickens have it pretty fucking bad but cows actually get treated ok a lot of the time, they're only confined in feedlots shortly before slaughter and prior to that are allowed to graze normally

[Anonymous No.17169188]

I've never seen vegans actually going out of their way to tell others they're vegans. What I do see very often are people who feel guilty about their habits but don't want to give up on them so they cope by resorting to spouting the same old tired bullshit claims such as vegans being rich, vegans being unhealthy, vegans pushing their lifestyle, etc.

[Anonymous No.17169192]

>>17169002
The problem is humans don’t live nice happy lives. We have to change the whole world not just our diets. Most humans are trapped in cars commuting long distances, trapped in factories, trapped in prisons, and they are treated very inhumanely. Once we solve the problems with the way we treat people, more people will open their eyes to the problems of how we treat animals.

[Anonymous No.17169230]

>>17168873
>>17168909
it's a secular religion
>DUDE LIKE, there is no such thing as objective morality, but like, we GOTTA STOP eating the animals because like, it's CRUEL 'n stuff, and like, we gotta SAVE THE PLANET BRO, anyone who isn't a VEGAN is OBJECTIVELY EVIL

[Anonymous No.17169245]

>>17168873
I tried it for health reasons years ago. I did it for three years (vegan, no salt, no wheat, no oil, no soy). It was brutal and I about lost my mind. I seem to need meat to stay sane. I do intermittent fasting keto, now, and it has been helping my autoimmune bullshit a lot more than the vegan crap did.

[Anonymous No.17169252]

>>17168960
The universe is hostile, and doesn't give a shit about your feels.

[Anonymous No.17169259]

>>17169057
Based

[Anonymous No.17169277]

>>17169252
but there are people who exist in the universe that do care

[Anonymous No.17169298]

>>17169277
But they are apart of the universe. So this should be taken as merely a tact so that you let down your guard, until they have proven otherwise.

[Anonymous No.17169389]

>>17169245
>I do intermittent fasting keto, now, and it has been helping my autoimmune bullshit a lot more than the vegan crap did.
i found that just fasting helps more than any particular diet with that stuff. although on a vegan diet i end up craving protein more often and not feeling fully satisfied with what i've eaten.

[Anonymous No.17169421]

>>17169036
So you're saying since I eat meat I should beat up kids too.... I'm thinking this guy is kind of based. What else should I do since I eat meat?

[Anonymous No.17169442]

>>17169389
Yes, the truth is that we all need to stop distracting ourselves, and learn to listen to our bodies telling us what it needs.

[Anonymous No.17169475]

>>17169187
>Pigs and chickens have it pretty fucking bad but cows actually get treated ok a lot of the time, they're only confined in feedlots shortly before slaughter and prior to that are allowed to graze normally

>he hasn't seen the documentaries
and you shouldn't if you want to avoid depression

[Anonymous No.17169489]

>>17168927
You are unbelievably based. My brother went vegan but not for health reasons. He actually thinks he’s helping to save the planet by not eating meat.

[Anonymous No.17169502]

>>17169475
you can actually go visit irl farms, you know that right?

[Anonymous No.17169518]

>>17169192
>The problem is humans don’t live nice happy lives. We have to change the whole world not just our diets. Most humans are trapped in cars commuting long distances, trapped in factories, trapped in prisons, and they are treated very inhumanely. Once we solve the problems with the way we treat people, more people will open their eyes to the problems of how we treat animals.

very true, but I have come to realize that shit is fucked, and that's putting it lightly. there's always some good people, and a shitload of bad people, and nothing ever gets better in a permanent and measurable noticeable way. all of human history is a giant downward spiral and the only thing we have to show for it is some technology that is horribly misused and wasted in it's potential, and often used against good people by the evil ones and we're still miserable. The ONLY thing getting us out of this sugarcoated hell we're all stuck living in is GOD, which is above and beyond all religions and ideologies. every day I wait for GOD while chewing on my vegetables. I just wait patiently, no joke. just waiting for GOD to finally show up and take us good ones up rapture vacuum style so we can finally be happy and safe forever in heaven with GOD. the people that made this world hell can have the world and eat their rotten cake they baked for themselves. they grew it, they poo it.

I'm just so tired frens. so so tired. I wake up and ask why, like why God, did you make this hell world? I try to sleep and my mind fills with the horrors of the memories of life, mistakes, regrets, and lost potential, of despair for humanity. tasty vegan recipes are one of the few things I look forward to. Sometimes I just don't even know why I post anything.

but keep on chugging bros, we're gonna make it. God is gonna come save us one day, and the bad guys wont believe it. kek

[Anonymous No.17169525]

>>17169502
>you can actually go visit irl farms, you know that right?
oh because the ones where the cows suffer don't exist right gotcha

[Anonymous No.17169531]

>>17169518
So... are all lions going to hell?

[Anonymous No.17169538]

>>17169525
They do exist, but you can always go visit ones where the cows dont suffer and then buy the beef from them instead of taking a blind leap of faith in a supermarket.

It's like, there are bad dog breeders, but good ones exist too so maybe like meet your dog breeder and make sure they breed dogs properly. Or like you know some babysitters/nannies are abusive so maybe interview them and make sure they aren't psychopaths before having them alive with your kid.

[Anonymous No.17169565]

>>17169230
>DUDE LIKE, there is no such thing as objective morality, but like, we GOTTA STOP eating the animals because like, it's CRUEL 'n stuff, and like, we gotta SAVE THE PLANET BRO, anyone who isn't a VEGAN is OBJECTIVELY EVIL

if you replace every word about animals or veganism with political subjects, it becomes instantly clear that this is the argument style of the leftist perspective. it's soy for a good reason and it is not a coincidence. the left wants to pretend it owns veganism, and then it wants to ruin its image because they want to turn everyone else off from anything even remotely healthy or vegetable related so they can further the anarcho--globalist-communist-satanist dystopian agenda.

they will eat cream filled cookies and drink soda and call it vegan, they don't give a damn if it's healthy or not. it's about making veganism permanently unattractive by mixing it with leftist politics and behavior to push everyone away from veganism forever.

this is why they worry people will make the distinction between politically left vegans and plant BASED conservatives, because it lets veganism remain attractive and survive as a concept.

[Anonymous No.17169570]

>>17169565
meds

[Anonymous No.17169579]

>>17169531
>So... are all lions going to hell?
very funny, but I didn't say all vegans or non vegans are automatically going one way or the other. I said good people. and yes I know there are non-vegans that are good people. I'm not one of those people who instantly think anyone non-vegan is evil. The world is complicated as hell, because it is hell.

[Anonymous No.17169591]

>>17169538
>They do exist, but you can always go visit ones where the cows dont suffer and then buy the beef from them instead of taking a blind leap of faith in a supermarket.
That is true, and part of me kind of wishes that was the only option, so as to remove any and all doubt and possibility of suffering from the process.

[Anonymous No.17169598]

>>17169175
>Look, a vegan or vegetarian
Lies from another rotted brain vegan. NOT ONE, NOT A SINGLE religion or philosophical school has VEGANISM as a main tenet. Vegetarianism, maybe can be argued for. Definitely not veganism tho. Just goes to show you how pozzed vegan brains (or lack of) are.

[Anonymous No.17169600]

>>17169570
>meds
you only need me to take your blue pills, because I'm already taking the red pills.

[Anonymous No.17169607]

>>17169598
>Lies from another rotted brain vegan. NOT ONE, NOT A SINGLE religion or philosophical school has VEGANISM as a main tenet. Vegetarianism, maybe can be argued for. Definitely not veganism tho. Just goes to show you how pozzed vegan brains (or lack of) are.
not them but I vaguely remember hearing mentions of different monk like monasteries in the past having been completely vegan, sadly I can't remember what they were called, however stupid that makes me look. I also remember hearing about these dudes that only ate yogurt too.

[Anonymous No.17169619]

>>17169607
>not them but I vaguely remember hearing mentions of different monk like monasteries in the past having been completely vegan, sadly I can't remember what they were called, however stupid that makes me look. I also remember hearing about these dudes that only ate yogurt too.
>cult retards
>somehow a legitamate religoun or school of philosophy.
Yeah bro, gnostics and PEGans drank semen for nourishment. Whats your point?

[Anonymous No.17169640]

>>17169619
It wasn't a cult it was some ancient monk monastery or something eating vegan food a long time ago

>Whats your point?
different things exist

[Anonymous No.17169645]

>>17169640
>It wasn't a cult it was some ancient monk monastery
No it wasn't. It was a cult, faggot. Just like how veganism is and always has been filled with cult followers.

[Anonymous No.17169665]

>>17169645
>No it wasn't. It was a cult, faggot. Just like how veganism is and always has been filled with cult followers.
NO, NO IT WASNT, IT WAS A CAULT.... GET ME YOUR MANAGER RIGHT MEOW! I mean right nyow.

kek

[Anonymous No.17169686]

>>17169598
Vegans have a higher IQ than you. This has been actually researched unlike your shitty attempt at banter.

[Anonymous No.17169715]

>>17168873
test

[Anonymous No.17169769]

>v-vegan here but I don't mind what you guys are doing

Shut the fuck up you spineless faggot. The only reason omnikeks and meatcucks continue to exist is because they have poor self control and could literally not imagine a world without Big Macs.

[Anonymous No.17169819]

>>17169518
>Le God will save you
Like clockwork

[Anonymous No.17169847]

>>17169819
hear me say this - not one of those who were invited shall attend

[Anonymous No.17169891]

>>17168929

>Vegan Civil War

I feel like this legit could be hilarious. I think everyone has grown numb to their bullshit so they've found excuse to turn on each other

[Anonymous No.17169902]

>>17168873
>Is Veganism just s social status thing for dumb middle class trust fund kids, why would anyone get enjoyment from this lifestyle?
Upper middle class white kids love feeling superior to other countries... the whole condescending shit about eating meat is bad & all us brown people destroying the environment. Fuck you. Not everyone is wealthy enough to care about luxuries when alot of us can barely afford meals due to massive inflation... party caused by you white people.

[Anonymous No.17169977]

>>17169600
taking the red pill means transitioning, dumb faggot

[Anonymous No.17170008]

Why does abstaining from eating animal products brings so many raging posters out of the woodwork? It's like they are personally offended because one does not want to eat meat.

[Anonymous No.17170018]

>>17169902
>the whole condescending shit about eating meat is bad & all us brown people destroying the environment.
What vegan says anything about brown people destroying the environment?

[Anonymous No.17170070]

>>17169591
I mean all you can really do is educate people on how/where to source high quality meat. Most people are more open to that than vegans making a public fool out of themselves trying to shock people into not eating meat because it -GASP- is from dead animals.

Idk its also kind of retarded to expect perfection from a beautifully imperfect world. There's nothing wrong with livestock serving their purpose.

[Anonymous No.17170096]

>>17169769
meat chad here. I havent eaten a big mac since the 90s.

[Anonymous No.17170217]

>>17169665
>shows no proof
>throws a conniption fit instead
typical malnourished vegan response

>>17169686
>Vegans have a higher IQ than you
>no proof
>trust (((muh science)))
Vegans have IQ of a turd out in summer heat. I doubt you fags could even research who's cock you got stuffed with last night, faggot.

[Anonymous No.17170226]

>>17170008
No one is personally offending if you want to be a malnourished soy goblin. We're just tired of your fucking evangelists pushing your shit cult down our throats. We won't eat ze bugs, We won't eat ze fake meat. We will continue to kill and eat ze animals.

[Anonymous No.17170393]

>>17170226
If I were you, I'd be more concerned with having my schizophrenia medication than having a steak to trigger the libs.

[Anonymous No.17170401]

>>17169230
I do believe in an objective morality. That's why I'm vegan: to not violate the NAP. I'm "right" in America.

[Anonymous No.17170413]

Just seems like an unnatural thing, only people who are mentally unstable gravitate towards a vegan diet. I immediately lose respect of anyone who is vegan.

[Anonymous No.17170455]

>>17169565
>>17168909
The absolute mental gymnastics in this thread. Just save my time and say "I don't care about killing animals"

[Anonymous No.17170535]

>>17170226
>soy goblin
Funny you should say this considering that vegans have higher test levels btw

[Anonymous No.17170560]

>>17170535
Here's your vegan cult leader that cherry picks all these studies for you. The epitome of masculinity and health, Dr. Michael Greger M.D. He's 47 in this picture btw.

[Anonymous No.17170565]

>>17170560
Wait till you see the absolute majority of omnivores.

[Anonymous No.17170570]

>>17170413
im not even vegan but losing your respect is a net gain in my eyes.

[Anonymous No.17170576]

>>17170560
>those smegol hands

[Anonymous No.17170579]

>>17168873
it is when they're complete fatasses regardless, but veganism does have its benefits
but i dont agree with the "save the animals" meme
monks are proof of this

[Anonymous No.17170580]

>>17168929
You don't really understand what meat is do you

[Anonymous No.17170581]

>>17170455
He probably does feel guilty but doesn't want to change his habits, which is why he gets so defensive at people not eating meat and tries to rationalize his lifestyle by sperging out like that.

[Anonymous No.17170583]

>>17168927
based
how do you drink now (if at all) compared to then and what about your tastes

[Anonymous No.17170586]

>>17168873
>social status
i've only ever been harassed and attacked for it

>dumb middle class trust fund kids
veganism is cheaper than eating meat

>why would anyone get enjoyment from this lifestyle?
i never have to hurt animals, it's excellent

[Anonymous No.17170591]

>>17170455
Who the fuck cares about killing animals you dumb faggot

[Anonymous No.17170592]

>>17169002
i live in kansas and every cow i've seen has been raised on a farm, the only things you're probably seeing is at the end of their lives when they're taken to a butchering facility

[Anonymous No.17170594]

>>17170586

[Anonymous No.17170595]

>>17170586
I've never hurt an animal in my life, what kind of third worlder has to hurt an animal to buy a steak?

[Anonymous No.17170620]

>>17170586
>veganism is cheaper
Stop fooling yourself. Vegans have to eat enormous amounts of plants every day.

>i never have to hurt animals
Ever heard of crop deaths? You passively kill hundreds of animals every year while in that same time a meat eater could live off the meat of a single cow that was grass-fed.

[Anonymous No.17170667]

>>17170620
Seriously, I can see why a vegan would feel superior when you retards bring up the same shitty talking points that have been debunked for fucking ages.

[Anonymous No.17170680]

>>17168877
FPBP

[Anonymous No.17170739]

>>17168873
Other than the beef , pork , poultry , seafood , eggs and cheese I eat I’m 100% vegan and I’m pretty insufferable so I can understand you being irritated by vegans .

[Anonymous No.17170876]

>>17170595
>>17170620
nigger-tier nonsense

[Anonymous No.17171393]

>>17170620
Its more like "YOU CAN JUST EAT RICE BEANS AND POTATOES" and while yeah thats cheap it also is completely nutritionally void. You can supplement with produce but that will also add up depending on where you live and the time of year, then of course there are other deficiencies that can only be fixed with supplements so that also adds to your bill, and then of course you might also get fucking sick of eating rice and beans with produce and supplements so you will buy some vegan animal product surrogates and that is more expensive than the real deal. It just all adds up.

[Anonymous No.17173241]

>>17170226
bitch please. I eat fake meat, real meat, bugs, salads, literally whatever the fuck I want.

[Anonymous No.17173276]

>>17173241
i love you anon :3

[Anonymous No.17173278]

>>17168909
Exactly what's the difference to other meme diets like keto?

[Anonymous No.17173287]

>>17173276
bold of you to admit you love a tranny on 4chan

[Anonymous No.17173295]

>>17173278
Keto wont cause nutritional defficiency and malnouroshment without supplements but vegan will

[Anonymous No.17173299]

>>17168873
> middle class
> trust fund

[Anonymous No.17173303]

>>17168877
That's a great position to take, unfortunately telling the bullies that won't make them stop picking on you

[Anonymous No.17173315]

>>17173299
>$1M trust fund
>$40k annual salary job
yeah, that's pretty solidly middle class

[Anonymous No.17173316]

>>17169525
By trying to point out the flaw in his argument, you've actually undercut your own position.

[Anonymous No.17173322]

>>17169591
>part of me kind of wishes that was the only option, so as to remove any and all doubt and possibility of suffering from the process.
you wish you were a child and all decisions were made for you?
Adulthood means grappling with the shitty parts of life and figuring out how to deal with them, not just stomping your feet and demanding that other people fix things for you.

[Anonymous No.17173326]

>>17173295
Oh wait you're serious
let me laugh even harder

[Anonymous No.17173329]

>>17173326
>laughs voraciously
>fractures an anemic rib
you okay anon you look a little unwell..?

[Anonymous No.17173366]

>>17168909
rent free

[Anonymous No.17173918]

It's easy to be vegan, just be depressed and not eat anything. Bumping this thread because janny deleted mine over it

[Anonymous No.17174169]

>>17173918

This is why I don't like Vegans much. They put on this very fake, and transparent, and pretentious act how they are this deep individual for being depressed for feeling the suffering of animals, when their whole facade is a complete fraud just so they can brag and give this image to themselves they are on the same level as Jesus Christ. Vegetarians I have no issue with. They aren't as preachy, and some of them I've met have been pretty chill.

[Anonymous No.17174268]

>>17174169
Meds.

[Anonymous No.17174272]

>>17168873
veganism is just another mental illness, you're deluding yourself into believing you're a good person while simultaneously harming your health while claiming it's healthy

[Anonymous No.17174273]

>>17168877
This is how faggots are created. Then they start pushing for children to learn how to use dildos at school. Same with vegans, they push anti-meat goyfeed the government wants you to eat.

[Anonymous No.17174276]

>>17173278
keto a meme diet, eh? well you do you then lol

[Anonymous No.17174280]

>>17168873
It affects their children growth.
It has been shown to prevent them from reaching their full height potential and weaken their muscle and bone structure.

Literally child abuse

[Anonymous No.17174327]

>>17168877
This is why the west has fallen, kek

[Anonymous No.17174377]

>>17168873
I've been vegetarian for years and only bring it up when people explicitly ask. I don't care about how many tendies you eat or your opinion on what other people should eat. >>17168873
Why are you faggots so obsessed with this shit? What does it matter to you?

[Anonymous No.17174378]

>>17168877

it will eventually affect you, they will advocate against you

[Anonymous No.17174416]

>>17174377

mental disorders should be called out for what they are

[Anonymous No.17174505]

>>17174272
Veganism doesn't inherently make you a good person but it definitely reduces animal suffering and pollution. You already know this and it makes you feel feel guilty but you don't want to quit stuffing your face with meat, therefore you try to rationalize your lifestyle empty angry phrases.
As for health, vegans have lower rates of heart disease, diabetes and cancer.

[Anonymous No.17174516]

>>17174505
>reduces animal suffering an pollution
Wrong, it just makes u feel better about yourself. In order to reduce animal suffering and pollution you need to actually put in some effort, not buy x instead of y<span class="fortune" style="color:#aad001">

Your fortune: You're on the naughty list![/spoiler]

[Anonymous No.17174519]

>>17168873
No, that's your straw man.

[Anonymous No.17174526]

eating vegan makes my skin look better and i generally feel better. now, i'll never refuse a meal with meat or dairy if i'm served it, and i'll even go out of my way to try out local dishes / interesting foods that aren't vegan. but yeah, just feel better when i'm not eating dairy and meat all the time

[Anonymous No.17174582]

>>17174516
What I said is empirically verifiable. Not my problem if my diet makes you feel guilty but you're too gluttonous to change it.

[Anonymous No.17174594]

>>17174505
>definitely reduces animal suffering and pollution
not even close
>vegans have lower rates of heart disease, diabetes and cancer
there's no evidence to support this, your industry propaganda isn't medical science

[Anonymous No.17174601]

>>17174582
Oh shut the fuck up and eat your bland christmas paste while you delude yourself into thinking you are doing anything.<span class="fortune" style="color:#11ec7f">

Your fortune: Your heart is two sizes too small.[/spoiler]

[Anonymous No.17174616]

I've reduced the amounts of meat I consume, when I was exercising I was eating like 3 to 4 kilos of meat per week, absolutely disgusting now that I think of it, especially the aftermath in the toilet, felt sick.

Now I eat meat once in 2 months, depends who's cooking for me, but I don't cook meat anymore. I watched how a pig for examples comes to my cuisine and I felt shit.

I love cheese tho, a smoked cheese from a village in my country, so technically I'm not vegan nor vegetarian.

[Anonymous No.17174625]

>>17168873
My aunt became allergic to a lot of animal products for some reason, so she had to go vegan
It annoyed the piss out of her for the first year
(Remember: It could happen to yooooooou)

[Anonymous No.17174628]

>>17168885
The fuck's a McPlant?
Is that their impossible burger?

[Anonymous No.17174643]

>>17174594
Whatever helps you sleep at night.

[Anonymous No.17174646]

>>17169475
>obey the youtuber selected montage, FUCK reality, we must be the SAINTS and they are SATAN
Every fucking time, this shit is little white urbanites sexual fetish, they never saw a farm in their existense and will refuse any encounter even for free.

[Anonymous No.17174687]

>>17174646
After this many points telling us how we allegedly think we're better people, I'm starting to think it's true after all.

[Anonymous No.17174689]

>>17174643
Project more, please

[Anonymous No.17174694]

>>17174169
are you spamming a "middle ground" logical fallacy? you're constantly trying to debase your vegan opponents (who live in your head rent-free) by permissing behavior that compromises towards your belief system. you go like: "well you get a pass if you're conservative" or "vegetarianism is based so just compromise and be vegetarian lol" to provide these compromises as an easy option to put the argument to rest hoping that your opponents have run out of breath but its just the slippery slope to you gaining ground in changing something sacred: someone else's diet.

i have news buddy: evangelism from meat-eaters is just as cringe as That Vegan Teacher. you are just as bad as your enemies if not worse because you seem manipulative.

[Anonymous No.17174696]

>>17174689
Project what? I'm not the one sperging out because facts are too spicy and they remind me my gluttony is harmful for the Earth.

[Anonymous No.17174709]

>>17174696
>facts
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pWdd6_ZxX8c&ab_channel=klatica

[Anonymous No.17174722]

>>17173303
what
>>17174273
faggots existed before you
>>17174327
>fallen
try again retard
>>17174378
probably wont affect me in my lifetime

Cheer up, schizos. It's the holidays! :)

[Anonymous No.17174740]

>>17174696

opinions aren't facts, sperg more

[Anonymous No.17174743]

>>17174740
The amount of crops needed to feed cattle and number of animals being killed are not up for discussion.

[Anonymous No.17174764]

>>17174743
neither is the superior nutritional value of animal products

[Anonymous No.17174777]

>>17168873
Vegans are confirmed as fags, but what middle class kids have trust funds?

[Anonymous No.17174783]

<span class="fortune" style="color:#01d0aa">

Your fortune: You're on the Elf Watchlist.[/spoiler]

[Anonymous No.17174806]

>>17174743

your soybean fields kill way more animals, displace way more wildlife, cause more pollution and harm the environment with increasing need of pesticides to control the fucked pest dominated ecosystems they create, you're out of your league buddy, go pretend to be the crusader for good all you like but you are in fact only pretending, try not spill your soy latte on your keyboard, it would be a shame for the factory slaves who built it

[Anonymous No.17174840]

>>17174743
80% of crops BY weight feed livestock. Thats because in order to produce ethanol and vegetable oil only 20 percent of the crop by weight is actually used.

You dont wanna discuss is because its your worst nightmare to not be correct and you have acted like an obnoxious asshole and lost countless friends and family for literally nothing.<span class="fortune" style="color:#01aad0">

Your fortune: You got an extra thick slice of fruitcake.[/spoiler]

[Anonymous No.17175040]

>>17174806
You're an idiotic subhuman. No vegan says no animal is killed when growing crops, it just so happens to be a way smaller number than is killed for the meat industry. Not only the number of animals killed for cattle feed is larger than the number killed for direct vegetable consumption but the difference is even larger when you include the cattle itself.

[Anonymous No.17175063]

>>17174840
Even taking ghose percentages into account, the amount of crops that need to be grown in order to feed a cow can still feed more people directly than the number of people that cow will eventually feed so you're still wrong, you obese subhuman.

[Anonymous No.17175102]

>>17174840
>80% of crops BY weight feed livestock.
So?

[Anonymous No.17175105]

Meat is murder y'all

[Anonymous No.17175110]

Seriously, what makes people rage so much about someone not eating animal products, to the point of making up imaginary vegans that feel superior, lying about the environmental impact of meat production and basically throw hissy fits?

[Anonymous No.17175142]

>>17174505
>definitely reduces animal pollution and suffering
>does nothing
im sorry but eating meat is just bad, because ughh it just is, nevermind the practices of the industry, its your fault and you as an individual are to blame just the same as for plastic pollution, so in fact you should just stop going to the shops because uggh you just should ok? plastic and meat is bad and its your fault ughh, because it just is ok?

[Anonymous No.17175154]

>>17175142
>tfw you can't argue agaisnt the fact that abstaining from eating animal products is benefitial for the environment so you do a 180 and basically brag about how much meat people eat
4d chess right here

[Anonymous No.17175170]

>>17175154
this was my first post in this thread and its not bragging about the fact people eat a fuck ton of meat, its about your justification for not eating it being completely hopeless and does absolutely nothing in terms of reducing pollution or animal suffering.

[Anonymous No.17175300]

>>17175102
When soy/canola/cottonseed/palm/coconut/olive oil or ethanol is made, it produces a shitload of waste product. For example, to get a 1/4 cup of sunflower seed oil, you need 5 lbs of sunflower seeds. So thats at LEAST 80 percent of shit that didn't end up in the oil. It's completely inedible to humans and is only good for livestock feed. Its an amusing irony, that vegans will buy the impossible burger and still support cheap consolidated livestock ag.
Just listen to the how canola oil is made and hear how many times they talk about a byproduct of the production going to feed livestock.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cfk2IXlZdbI&ab_channel=PanosEgglezos

>>17175063
First off, I'm 112 lbs. Second, read what i said above.

[Anonymous No.17175328]

>>17175300
>112lbs
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[Anonymous No.17175359]

>>17175300
It doesn't matter. The amount of crops you need to plant in order to feed a cow is still larger than the amount of crops you need to plant in order to directly feed the same number of people a number of people a cow would feed. Also vegans don't subsist off canola, you dumb cunt.

[Anonymous No.17175420]

>>17175359
>need
You really don't NEED to plant anything to feed a cow. The incredible thing about ruminants is that they can literally just eat grass. But yeah, vegans don't just eat canola, but they love to eat crops that have a shitload of byproduct. Even just eating flour or fuck even whole wheat berries produces a shitload of chaff thats completely inedible to humans. Any sort of seed oil, any sort of alchohol, any sort of processed food or processed ingredient, its got a buttload of byproduct. We don't put all this effort and time to just feed cows, if it was actually financially inefficient we would have never adopted animal husbandry some 10,000 years ago.

Not to mention it clearly shows how little you actually know about agriculture if you can grow human grade crops everywhere we can grow cattle grade crops (like grass)

Oh and also, world hunger isn't caused because the cows are eating all our food, its happening because our distribution is completely fucked up. With our current production we can comfortably feed every single man woman and child 3000 calories per day. And yet some people are starving. Its not a production issue, it's a distribution issue. There hasn't been a major famine caused by environmental factors since industrialization.

Like I said, this is just for you to feel better about yourself. Nothing more.<span class="fortune" style="color:#01aad0">

Your fortune: You got an extra thick slice of fruitcake.[/spoiler]

[Anonymous No.17175424]

>meet girl thats perfect in nearly every way
>funny, cute, interesting, same hobbies etc.
>but shes a hardcore vegan
>basically cant eat at 90% of restaurants
>food i can cook for her is also severely limited

its not FUCKING FAIR

[Anonymous No.17175463]

>>17175424
she's training you well. good boy.

[Anonymous No.17175517]

>>17168885
you do know mcdonalds fries are seasoned with beef. As in deffinitely not vegan right?

[Anonymous No.17175540]

it's for single women who don't care about having children and adjacent men of similar status
unless you were living in a tropical environment but even then not sure how you get around certain things unless you have fish at least

[Anonymous No.17175566]

>>17175420
If anything the poor in this country need LESS access to food. Buncha fatties.

[Anonymous No.17175569]

>>17175517
Haven't been for years, which is why they're shit now compared to how they once were.

[Anonymous No.17175673]

>>17175566
plant-based subsidies would be awesome, as it is the only plant crop subsidies that exist go towards producing cattle feed, pretty stupid. no wonder we have an obesity epidemic

[Anonymous No.17175689]

>>17175566
im poor and no. im average BMI. your spreading a distorted reality to further your agenda. food is really expensive and it sucks. it just keeps going up.

[Anonymous No.17175695]

>>17175110
Usually caused by a guilty conscience. They know there's a merit to a vegan lifestyle, but they're too ashamed of their dependence on meat to openly state it, so they make it an Us vs. Them situation to feel superior about not changing.

[Anonymous No.17175806]

>>17175695
Actually if anything vegan nutjobs kind of helped inspire me to raise and slaughter my own livestock to see if I would feel guilty


I didn't.

[Anonymous No.17175821]

>>17175806
t. Ethan Crumbley

[Anonymous No.17176037]

>>17175821
Yes, because killing an animal so I can have a closer relationship with my food is exactly the same as shooting random kids in a high school because I wanna be an edgelord.

[Anonymous No.17176069]

>>17168873
Yes. They’re not superior to anyone and I encourage their own self-destruction. They’re retards that take media talking points at face value, so eating cattle for them would be cannibalism.

[Anonymous No.17177325]

>>17170226
Anti-vegans are 100% more insufferable and evangelical than vegans are and don't even have a hint of a moral high-ground to preach from. You even had to make up some shit about bugs as if vegans wouldn't be opposed to eating those too.
>>17174616
I wish more people on both ends of this argument wouldn't get butthurt by the idea that you can just cut down on meat instead of cutting it out entirely or eating tons of it for every meal.
>>17174840
So ag companies are pushing soy into our diets so that they have byproduct to feed to livestock? Great.

[Anonymous No.17177327]

>>17176037
he abused animals prior to shooting the school up anon

[Anonymous No.17177353]

>>17175569
are you a pajeet? cause if not, you're wrong.

[Anonymous No.17177381]

>>17175517
>>17175569
>>17177353
They still use beef seasoning in the continental US but not in most other countries.

[Anonymous No.17177428]

>>17177381
"seasoning" maybe but they used to fry them in beef fat (tallow) which is supposedly why they tasted better than the industrial slop they fry them in now

[Anonymous No.17177634]

>>17170535
your mother has higher test levels than your dirty ass.

[Anonymous No.17177663]

>>17177325
The main reason they are pushing soy is because like all the other cash crops, its heavily subsidized. A big reason probably has to do with how a giant cash crop harvest can be used for many things, including being a very high protein feed for livestock. I mean, I'm a fan of these massive monocultures of cash crops as much as the next guy, but industrial civilization, and at it's core, all modern civilization was built upon the fields of cash crops, especially grains and legumes. The harvesting and processing of which produces a ton of waste product which would build up if we didn't have livestock to turn said waste into additional food.

>>17177327
I didn't know killing an animal for food was the same as torturing animals and bringing dismembered baby bird heads to school. I mean, Adam Lanza was a vegan, why not say all vegans are literally him?
The comparison is retarded and so are you. Merry Christmas.

[Anonymous No.17177709]

>>17168877
so it's your fault huh

[Anonymous No.17178114]

>>17168873
idk but I just had Foie Gras

[Anonymous No.17178148]

>>17177634
>literally a middle-school-tier comeback
You're a pathetic subhuman.

[Anonymous No.17178161]

not everyone lives for enjoyment anon

[Anonymous No.17178291]

>>17178148
low test reply, point proven snowflake.

[Anonymous No.17178383]

>>17168873
I'm a dumb middle class trust fund kid and I eat almost nothing but meat and eggs

[Anonymous No.17178388]

>>17168924
Like abortion?