/ck/ - Food & Cooking

[Anonymous No.17162627]

What's this sodium warning? Is too much sodium bad for you?

[Anonymous No.17162633]

>>17162627
Instead of addressing the giant sugary 400lb diabetic elephant in the room they’re going after too much salt which is a problem for a very small amount of people, because food in america is controlled by powerful corn lobbies

[Anonymous No.17162642]

>>17162633
>food in america is controlled by powerful corn lobbies

I find it hard to believe some corn farmers could garner that much power

[Anonymous No.17162643]

>>17162633
Take some meds.

[Anonymous No.17162674]

>>17162642
Yeah because it’s definitely just a couple hick farmers meeting up after square dancing and not giant multimillion dollar agro companies

[Anonymous No.17162688]

>>17162642
The USDA is captured by the Corn Refiners Association which is made up of gigantic ag companies like ADM and Cargill. Just those two alone make about 50 billion dollars profit a year. The current Ag secretary is an ex-Iowa Governor (which is the biggest US state for corn growing), and the Government pays something around $7 billion in corn subsidies per year.

[Anonymous No.17162701]

>>17162642
youd be surprised, they have it so corn syrup is injected into damn near everything

[Anonymous No.17162706]

>>17162674
Kek anon, thanks for that

[Anonymous No.17162742]

>>17162627
the CDDR (Chronic Disease Risk Reduction Intake) for both males and females is 1800mg
this is defined as the upper limit for 97.5% of healthy adults, above this limit you start to increase your risk of chronic sodium related disease
it should be noted that the american heart association recommends no more than 2300mg per day and an ideal limit of 1500mg

the meal you have according to tacobells website is somewhere in the 1900mg range, so you should either limit or eliminate all other sodium intake for the day or only eat things with that warning sparingly
unless you want to hammer your kidneys and heart

[Anonymous No.17162850]

>>17162633
Dubs so true and based

[Anonymous No.17162963]

>taco bell still providing us with $5 box
Bless them

[Anonymous No.17163012]

Taco Bell has fallen lower than any other fast food place over the past decade. Maybe Dunkin Donuts can compete.

[Anonymous No.17163034]

>>17163012
Compete for the greatest decline? Because I remember how much better Dunkin Donuts used to be 20 years ago, when they actually made the donuts in-store.

[Anonymous No.17163055]

>>17162633
Heart disease is the bigger killer, it also doesn't help anyone obese.

[Anonymous No.17163064]

>>17162963
tbqh you mom does too

[Anonymous No.17163067]

>>17162627
Is this a shill thread? I suddenly want a fucking chalupa. thanks fucker

[Anonymous No.17163074]

>>17162963
burgers get the best fast food deals. i paid 20 dollars for a burrito and coke yesterday :(

[Anonymous No.17163086]

>>17163074
haha retard
i do enjoy expensive burritos too though

[Anonymous No.17163090]

>>17162642
Yeah, it's not like 1/4 of the country is just endless rows of corn.

[Anonymous No.17164274]

>>17162627
>Is too much sodium bad for you?
well about 1 cup of sodium would kill you, otherwise no it's not bad for you and you need it to live.

[Anonymous No.17164291]

>>17162627
>EARLY ACCESS
Is the recipe still being developed?

[Anonymous No.17164317]

>>17162642
no joke, if you buy processed food in America there is an 80% chance there is a corn-derived ingredient in it. Corn syrup is just the tip of the iceberg

[Anonymous No.17164330]

>>17164291

No, that means it's undercooked. Nothing like an unbaked tortilla with cold, raw ground "beef!"

[Anonymous No.17164332]

>sodium bad
>fat bad
>carbs good!

[Anonymous No.17164378]

>>17162642
Did you ever hear the Tragedy of Darth Cornfed the Alcoholic? I thought not. It is a not a story the coastals would tell you. It is an Ohio legend. Darth Cornfed was a Corn Lord of Ohio, so powerful and so wise he could manipulate corn to create vodka... he was so powerful in the Ethanol Side, he could even keep the ones he cared about from leaving Ohio.

[Anonymous No.17164379]

>>17162633
Meat, dairy milk and animal feed production farms got 60% of the total number of farm subsidies and bailouts in the US in 2020.

[Anonymous No.17164383]

>>17164332
Who are quoting, delusional ketopig?

[Anonymous No.17164402]

>>17164332
they never said that retard

[Anonymous No.17164407]

>>17164383
sounds like the USDA guidelines

[Anonymous No.17164413]

>>17162627
Just drink enough water to flush out the sodium. I usually get two craving boxes when I get the bell and I'm fine

[Anonymous No.17164427]

>>17164407
USDA tells you to get plenty of healthy fats in your diet from avocados, fatty fish, nuts, and olives.
Your lot just likes to whine because we’ve known since AD 30 that too much red meat is bad for you, since those in Rome who ate too much beef were plagued with a sickness of the gut. I forgot who noted that, fist, but I can find it.

[Anonymous No.17164433]

>>17162642
Think again city slicker

[Anonymous No.17164439]

>>17164274
wow really? holy crap. death by saltiness is a thing

[Anonymous No.17164458]

>>17164427
lol whatever retard

[Anonymous No.17164477]

>>17162627
California being faggots and companies just making it a default warning because it's easier

[Anonymous No.17164484]

>>17164439
You have to do something absurd like drink a bottle of soy sauce to die from sodium poisoning.

[Anonymous No.17164775]

>>17163055
I’d rather die of heart disease than live a fat fuck

[Anonymous No.17164791]

>>17164775
sugar is a bigger risk for heart disease and obesity than sodium

[Anonymous No.17164809]

>>17164402
I was saying "carbs good!" :/

[Anonymous No.17165124]

>>17164379
>animal feed production
More often than not is corn byproduct

[Anonymous No.17165131]

>>17162642
>*rubs ears*

[Anonymous No.17165145]

>>17162688
>Government pays something around $7 billion in corn subsidies per year.
kek

I used to live in an area where farmers had banners saying "Rural Revolution" or some nonsense with a wall of text and stop sign saying "Government: BACK OFF." One time I asked the farmer I was buying honey off of about the signs and then told him I bet he doesn't want the government to back off the subsidies. He turned red and start getting really angry and telling me how farmers are the life blood of the country and blah blah blah

What a ridiculous mindset by so-called small government people who claim to be fiercely independent yet rely wholly on handouts.

[Anonymous No.17165149]

>>17162642
the federal government heavily subsidizes corn/dairy production, otherwise they'd be priced out of existence.
midwest farmers like to think they're independent and living hardily, but they're the biggest welfare queens in the country. they throw a shitfit any time any congressperson even thinks about cutting off their fat teat.

[Anonymous No.17165205]

>>17165145
it's literal textbook cognitive dissonance. rightoids can't process thinking about it without exploding and changing the topic.

[Anonymous No.17165220]

>>17165145
how much is subsidy for diary or meat? id bet its much less. but im okay with subsidizing meat and dairy as they are actually nutritious foods unlike corn and HFCS

[Anonymous No.17165228]

>>17162627
Post blood pressure

[Anonymous No.17165249]

>>17165228
I consume a lot of salt

[Anonymous No.17165261]

>>17163090
>Endless
>Ends at 1/4
You're so fucking stupid, why don't you just leave

[Anonymous No.17165332]

>>17165261
Within that 1/4 it's endless.

[Anonymous No.17165408]

>>17164378
Kek

[Anonymous No.17165512]

>>17162627
Something weird happened to me
I had candida (thrush) and ate a lot of Maruchan and nissin noodles because they were exxpired and now i have nothing...
weird

[Anonymous No.17165523]

>>17162627
You only need 200 mg of sodium a day.

This meal alone probably contains over 2000.
That's the only thing that makes fast food unhealthy, the sodium, everything else about it is fine.

Think of your blood pressure anon.

[Anonymous No.17165560]

>>17165149
if corn/dairy are affirmative action, which foods are naturally high-performing?

[Anonymous No.17165598]

>>17162642
Dude you have no idea.
There's some Jurassic Park tier shit going on.
There's cornfields in Hawaii surrounded by razor wire that are genetically engineered to produce pharmaceutical precursors.

[Anonymous No.17165640]

>>17165523
This.
It's just regular food with a fucktonne of salt poured onto it.

[Anonymous No.17165656]

>>17165523
Why do they put so much sodium in it?

[Anonymous No.17165680]

>>17162627
>Warning about unhealthy amount of sodium
>Still sells it to you anyways

[Anonymous No.17165704]

>>17165656
Make up for the taste I guess, a preservative also.

I stopped adding salt to anything except a little on some home made stuff, and pasta when boiling. I started using a calorie counter and realized I was consuming a crazy amount.

[Anonymous No.17165718]

If you aren't fat or otherwise at risk for hypertension salt isn't a big deal.

[Anonymous No.17165720]

>>17165704
>I started using a calorie counter and realized I was consuming a crazy amount.
Same for me. I also started looking up the nutritional info on everything that I get before I go out for fast food. It's insane how many places have single items that are 2000+ mg.

[Anonymous No.17165881]

>>17162642
less than 2% of americans are farmers, but agricultural production increases every year
food is not just produced by humble farmers anymore. it's mass industry, controlled by powerful corporations like everything else

[Anonymous No.17165897]

>>17165523
>You only need 200 mg of sodium a day.
youre pulling this out of your ass. lowest mortality is at 3-5g per day. i consume more than that and BP is optimal see >>17165249 what will really push up your blood pressure is a high sugar diet

[Anonymous No.17165907]

>tfw get the grilled cheese burrito box

[Anonymous No.17166496]

>>17162627
Your body has no way of storing sodium, so excess just gets excreted out. Meanwhile some sodium is essential for bodily function. The conclusion? You'd have to be eating a LOT of salt for it to matter. Like 20g/day or more. You'd get sick of the taste of salt long before it started harming you. Remember they used to use salt as a preservative in the olden days and heart disease wasn't an issue.

[Anonymous No.17166504]

>>17163055
Salt does not cause heart disease.

[Anonymous No.17166508]

>>17165881
According to the USDA most farms are family owned. Sorry bud but the "corporate boogeyman" just isn't there. Americans like sugary garbage and are happy to pay for it.

[Anonymous No.17166538]

>>17166508
Most farms are family owned but they're generally small operations, sorta like mom n pop stores versus Walmart. 1 Walmart can do as much business as 100 small stores, so absolute values are meaningless.

>Americans like sugary garbage
And Vlad Tepes liked putting people on spikes, it doesn't make it a good thing. Ultra processed food is a huge issue that needs addressing. I understand that longer shelf life means a more stable food supply chain but it's costing more money in healthcare at this point.

[Anonymous No.17166603]

>>17166496
Japanese use a lot of salt, yet they have some of the longest lifespans. Why? Sodium on its own is not that much of a concern. Healthy kidneys filter out excess sodium quickly. But, if you combine high carbohydrate intake and high sodium intake, then heart disease is the result. Both sugary foods and those easily broken down and digested (like potato starch) will fuck up your blood pressure. High blood pressure then damages kidneys, so they don't filter sodium as efficiently as before, and this is when high sodium becomes an issue.

[Anonymous No.17166619]

>>17165907
Based GCB chad.

[Anonymous No.17166729]

>>17166603
>But, if you combine high carbohydrate intake and high sodium intake, then heart disease is the result.
Nips eat a lot of rice but they have pretty low sugar intake. They used to have pretty high stroke rates as well but they pushed it even lower by eating more fish and animal foods starting in the 70s just as burgers were going low fat and eating more sugar and grains

[Anonymous No.17166743]

>days worth of calories in one sitting
*SODIUM WARNING*

[Anonymous No.17166789]

>>17166743
>1300 cals
>day's worth
twinkcel detected

[Anonymous No.17166797]

>>17166743
post bussy

[Anonymous No.17166865]

>SODIUM WARNING
It's cool that it's more profitable to slap a warning on a webpage than it is to simply stop poisoning your customers.

[Anonymous No.17168138]

>>17166865
Lol this

[Anonymous No.17168864]

>>17162627
How the hell is high sodium even an issue nigger just drink a glass of water haha

[Anonymous No.17168887]

>>17165145
Lol stories that never happened
>you guise I totally owned this dumb farmer lolz he turned so red and got so mad

[Anonymous No.17169490]

>>17165897
willing to bet you're early to mid 20s saying dumb shit like this. keep it up until you're 35 and you'll see why it's bad. don't bother coming back with
>hurr i'm actually 70 years old
unless you plan on posting ID to prove it.

[Anonymous No.17169533]

>>17166865
Don’t be a retarded ass faggot you faggot ass retard
>omg muh poison
Faggot.

[Anonymous No.17169544]

>>17162633
fpbp + checked + /thread

[Anonymous No.17169551]

>dollar beef burritos pulled off the menu within the last like week
My hatred is immense.

[Anonymous No.17169793]

>>17162627
it depends on it's proportion in relation to potassium

[Anonymous No.17169957]

>>17163055
The biggest factors to developing heart disease are smoking and obesity

[Anonymous No.17169964]

how can it have 1400 calories, it just tortilla bread, mince meat and salad...

[Anonymous No.17169994]

>>17169964
Beef is very calorie dense, so are the tortillas. Also it's 1100-1380, 280 of that is the Pepsi.

[Anonymous No.17170549]

>omg da salt
Have you tried drinking water?

[Anonymous No.17171068]

>>17169490
I used to have high blood pressure when I ate low salt diet now its normal and I eat more salt. cope retard

[Anonymous No.17171845]

>>17165145
Let me guess the honey started clapping

[Anonymous No.17171854]

>>17162633
Except sodium IS bad for a lot of people and is inextricably linked to hypertension. It depends a lot on the individual, but you definitely don't need to go over 100% DV sodium (despite it being super easy to) to make food taste good

[Anonymous No.17171864]

>>17162627
>Is too much sodium bad for you?
Depends. The range is 2,000mg a day for sedentary people up to 6,000mg a day for professional athletes. Any less that 2 grams and you run into muscle problems

[Anonymous No.17171881]

>>17163034
DD has gotten even worse they recently axed like half of the doughnut varieties

[Anonymous No.17171935]

>>17162633
>>17162642
People keep coming close and missing the mark due to distractions. Yes corn lobbyists are powerful because they have corn industry money, which is powerful itself. But also the agricultural industry is powerful, even more so. But more than that, the food multi-industry complex. And above that, all US production infrastructure and captured production by US Imperialism abroad. Because production drives provision of all our needs and wants. It literally determines life and death. What's important is are we, the masses, the ones in control of said industry? The answer is no. Very few private owners have this power, yet the production process itself is maintained for the public interest. This is incompatible at its root. Food (and all other production) should be in ownership of the whole of the country's people, if only to avoid overproduction crises. Lobbyists are only necessary to mitigate losses to those private owners. Once production not only serves the people but is determined by the people, lobbying (and its corruption, lies, and control) fades away into obsolescence.

The sugar in this meal is far more harmful to the individual as the first Anon says. The salt is negligible since you pee excess. But power concentrated into the hands of the few, system-wide, causes nonsense like the ad to propagate, which in turn creates a cultural movement to justify the lies of those lobbyists (on behalf of the owning class).

[Anonymous No.17173233]

>>17171854
>is inextricably linked to hypertension
Source?

[Anonymous No.17173274]

>>17171864
this. I get cramping when I run if I dont have enough. Magnesium also helps

[Anonymous No.17173277]

>>17171864
>you have to eat 2 grams of sodium a day
Then uh, how the fuck did our ancestors survive?
There's no way Grug was getting 2 grams of sodium a day.

[Anonymous No.17173279]

>>17173233
hes talking out of his ass. It is true that it may slightly elevate BP in the short term its never been proven that its the cause of chronic hypertension. In clinical trials BP goes down more from cutting sugar than salt

[Anonymous No.17173332]

>>17173277
They did and youre clearly historically illiterate.
>"the universal dependable source of salt for inland hunters and herders alike was blood.

[Anonymous No.17173351]

>>17165220
>how much is subsidy for diary or meat? id bet its much less
lol no it's ~40 billion a year.

[Anonymous No.17173357]

>>17173351
based. I love big beef

[Anonymous No.17173386]

>>17162627
Do early access meals at taco bell include any dlc?

[Anonymous No.17173511]

>>17163064