Coffee Time General – /ctg/

[Anonymous No.17111171]

Coffee Time General — The First Wave Edition

>There are three intolerable things in life
>cold coffee,
>lukewarm champagne,
>and overexcited women.

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[Anonymous No.17111188]

>>17111076
Honestly if you're concerned about it looking modern you could just go for a breville smart grinder (I'm not the shill I swear) or something from baratza like a sette, they all look relatively sleek and modern. Just know you're going to be trading durability and build quality for looks, since those use a lot of plastic parts, and breville products are not built with user serviceability in mind so if it breaks you're sending it off or getting a new one.

[Anonymous No.17111192]

For me, it's Rossa.

[Anonymous No.17111223]

>>17111188
Sucks that you can't get these from a us importer.
https://www.eureka.co.it/en/catalogo/prodotti/macinacaff%c3%a8+on+demand/1/29.aspx
https://www.eureka.co.it/en/catalogo/prodotti/macinacaff%c3%a8+on+demand/1/73.aspx
>concerned about it looking modern
Fellow ode>sgp.

[Anonymous No.17111360]

>>17111171
god why don't women look like that anymore? she looks like the perfect secretary or receptionist

[Anonymous No.17111467]

>>17096135
honestly, just start with pre-ground and a french press
not even meming

[Anonymous No.17111779]

>>17111171
>>17111360
1. She's a pin-up illustration
2. Russian still does it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FtMql6ajPEQ

[Anonymous No.17111793]

But I like cold coffee. We don't even really drink it hot at home where I'm from, just room temperature or iced.

[Anonymous No.17111795]

>>17111779
present day girls who embrace the pinup/burlesque aesthetic are just alternatives and outcasts
without the makeup and costume they're either boring-looking or just plain fat with too many tattoos and piercings

[Anonymous No.17111804]

>>17111795
>present day girls who embrace the pinup/burlesque aesthetic are just alternatives and outcasts
You type that like you could've gotten them anyway

[Anonymous No.17111820]

>>17111804
more like who the hell wants a pasty overweight white ghoul bitch devoid of personality in the first place

[Anonymous No.17111864]

>>17111779
OP pic isn’t pinup. It’s just generic post-WWII/1950s style. Obviously she’s a model and was chosen for her comely looks but not every woman in a swing dress or peter pan collar is automatically a pinup

[Anonymous No.17111928]

>>17111820
This.
I've known several. They always have the same, pseudointellectual cunt personality. Shame, too, cuz one such cunt is married to a good friend of mine and my wife and I refuse to hang out with him because he has to have her around (can't blame him; couples gotta couple) and she's just fucking awful.

[Anonymous No.17111929]

Buying my first espresso machine tomorrow. Has been apparently been well maintained and had the pump replaced with an oem pump recently at a reputable retailer.

The guy is offering me a demo but I don't want to go into his house and do the whole thing. If he's offering me a demo, I'll take it that the machine works. What questions should I ask though? Any things I should check about the machine? Do I need one of those GFCI plugs to test it? Pls help me bros

[Anonymous No.17112012]

>>17111929
What's the machine?

[Anonymous No.17112018]

>>17112012
ascaso steel uno, supposedly the internals are very similar to the rancillio silvia (this one has a brass boiler) but I like how this looks better

[Anonymous No.17112035]

>>17111928
>They always have the same, pseudointellectual cunt personality

so coffee enthusiasts

[Anonymous No.17112043]

>>17112035
>pseudointellectual cunt personality
4chan

[Anonymous No.17112157]

>>17111929
wtf is going on there? that's like way too much flow all at once

[Anonymous No.17112219]

>>17111171
What your guy's thoughts on pic related? I tried it myself and thought it was decent for what it was. Not too sweet and not too bland. Average and I wouldn't get it again.

[Anonymous No.17112221]

How do you clean this thing?
If you google you find everything and the opposite of everything, and every method is apparently the right one, and the other methos will ruin forever both the moka and the coffe you'll make.

Anyone uses this? How do you clean it?

[Anonymous No.17112250]

>>17112221
I use it but only once a week or so. I just put it in the dishwasher and I haven't noticed any issues or difference in brew in the last 4-5 years I've had it

[Anonymous No.17112258]

>>17112219
Haven't had the canned stuff but I live down the street from their original location. I don't much care for it.

[Anonymous No.17112266]

cold coffee is fine stop being such a fag

[Anonymous No.17112296]

>>17112157
It annoys me how curious I am about that pic. It's either a fucked machine, a photoshopped shot or or maybe just a long exposure shot. I WILL find out

[Anonymous No.17112358]

>>17112296
Apparently it's just what happens when you use coffee like 2 hours after it's been roasted. too much CO2

[Anonymous No.17112415]

>>17112221
I also need to know this

[Anonymous No.17112435]

>>17112250
What coffee do you use and can you recommend one. Ive already tried lavarzza and cafe bustelo and illy is a bit out of my budget.

[Anonymous No.17112476]

>>17111929
bump bros pls help me

[Anonymous No.17112490]

>>17112221
If used daily (my family used it three times daily, akshully), it only needs a rinse after use.
After brewing coffee, pour it out into a serving pot and add cold water to the moka. Enjoy your coffee and, now that the moka is cool, unscrew it, discard the grounds and rinse the lot. I use a spoon to get out the grounds caked against the gasket and that's it.
I forgot what your "supposed" to do if you go a while without using it, but I would guess the same thing as when you start a new one: break it down wash every part with soap and water then put it together, filling the reservoir with white vinegar. Let it run through but don't put coffee grounds in the basket. Toss the vinegar, and repeat the process, only with water in the reservoir this time. Now you may brew coffee.

[Anonymous No.17112498]

>>17112476
Why would I help someone who misgenders me?

[Anonymous No.17112510]

>>17112435
They stopped making my favourite, Bonka. Kimbo Gold is pretty good, but if you find Illy pricy, that's not for you. Supreme by Bustelo? Have you tried it? Costs about $5 per 10oz brick. Fairly decent, too.

[Anonymous No.17112531]

>>17112498
bro is gender neutral you insufferable bigot

[Anonymous No.17112591]

>>17112510
Ill try the supreme one next time. Thanks man.

[Anonymous No.17112647]

hi guys, getting my first espresso machine soon and am thinking about buying a used one. is this a good idea? and what should I be looking for when I go to buy it?

[Anonymous No.17112673]

>>17112435
I buy from a local place in Australia. Just a pretty generic dark roast when I use that though.

[Anonymous No.17112700]

>>17112219
Canned stuff I hate. Their one roast nizza is a fav of mine

[Anonymous No.17112712]

>>17112700
you're not allowed to say that word anymore

[Anonymous No.17112727]

>>17112296
>I WILL find out

[Anonymous No.17112731]

>>17112647
I guess it depends on your budget.
I'd buy a used commercial machine but I probably wouldn't buy a used home machine unless it was pretty high end and I could save some money on it.
The only thing I guess you could really do is have them make a shot with it and just check that it pours well.

[Anonymous No.17112736]

>>17111779
Those busted cunts are hideous to the OP.

[Anonymous No.17112741]

>>17111779
Those busted cunts are hideous compared to the OP.

[Anonymous No.17112752]

>>17112731
What espresso machine do you have?

[Anonymous No.17112770]

for me, it's redbull

[Anonymous No.17112800]

>>17112770
more of a ferrari guy myself

[Anonymous No.17112808]

>>17112752
Nothing special. The Breville Barista Express.

It's what I'd recommend to people who wanna get into espresso without obsessively getting into it.

[Anonymous No.17112824]

>>17112808
>It's what I'd recommend to people who wanna get into espresso without obsessively getting into it.
I'm going to fucking rape you

[Anonymous No.17112832]

>>17112824
Thanks

[Anonymous No.17112839]

>>17112808
Gotcha, nothing wrong with that just letting you know the vast majority of commercial machines need to be plumbed in and for most people a high end home machine is the best end-game set-up.

[Anonymous No.17112846]

for me, it's instant coffee with hot cream and milk.

[Anonymous No.17112855]

>>17111171
7/11 has the best coffee and you can't tell me otherwise. 2 fucking dollardoos for a hot mocha dark roast? are you fucking kidding me? and it taste good?

[Anonymous No.17112866]

>>17112855
McDonalds unironically has very good coffee for the price, much better than 7/11 and every other fast food place.

[Anonymous No.17112872]

>>17112866
yo i was addicted to their frappes for months. it's expensive though, but not as pricey as starcucks. will occasionally get a frappe from them, or a custom iced coffee.

[Anonymous No.17113330]

>>17112157
beans too fresh. what you're seeing is co2 release

[Anonymous No.17113382]

Is dark roast a meme? What is the coffee aficionado roast choice?

[Anonymous No.17113497]

>>17113382
City roasts (medium) plus or minus depending on the particular coffee. Some coffees have flavors that are rare and ephemeral that need to be roasted lighter (delicate fruits/florals), but some coffees taste overly sour and lack sweetness if they are too light. Very rarely does a good coffee truly taste better at dark roast levels, imo. Better coffees almost always taste best at medium levels where a good balance is struck between the interesting origin-related flavors of the coffee and sugar/caramel sweetness roast development of the coffee's carbohydrates. These sugars are what are responsible for the brown color of roasted coffee. They turn to carbon on the darkest roast levels.

[Anonymous No.17114003]

>>17113382
yes
light (single origin, sustainably-farmed)

[Anonymous No.17114029]

>>17112221
I wipe it weekly with lime since I heard soap will tarnish it.

[Anonymous No.17114036]

>>17113382
Basically the lighter the roast the more of the coffee's specific characteristics will be present in the final product, how much of it you actually want is a matter of personal taste and can usually vary depending on what you're working with. The darker you roast it the more flavor compounds you destroy, which is why ultra dark roasts generally taste of pretty much nothing but bitterness.

So pretty much the nicer the beans you start with are the lighter you want to roast them up to a certain point, and where that point is will differ depending on your preferences.

[Anonymous No.17114042]

>>17114029
The oxidized layer you see on aluminum protects it against further oxidation, continually removing it causes damage to the item over time.

[Anonymous No.17114120]

>>17111171
nice digits

>The First Wave Edition
this got me thinking about something so I googled:
>fourth wave coffee
the last time I thought about the "waves" of coffee there were only 3 and everyone seemed to be hung up on how great it was to be part of the 3rd

> https://districtroasters.com/pages/what-is-fourth-wave-coffee
so these faggots define 4th wave as:
>a marriage between stellar coffee products and truly worthwhile social consciousness…is a marriage between stellar coffee products and truly worthwhile social consciousness…[and] fighting to eradicate economic, physical, and spiritual poverty around the world
sounds a little like 3rd wave meets BLM & PLUR

> https://achillescoffeeroasters.com/4th-wave-coffee/
but then this rhetorically asks when you ever thought that you'd:
>see instant coffee labeled ‘specialty’? Single origin Ethiopian Yirgacheffe for sale on the shelves of Target? Oh and that new specialty coffee shop opening in your city or neighborhood? It might be owned by the largest food company in the world!
just sounds like second wave, rebranded…soulless or 2.0

> https://www.baristainstitute.com/blog/jori-korhonen/april-2020/4th-wave-coffee-project-robert-paulig-roastery-and-artisan-cafe
and then there's this faggot who thinks 4th wave is all about:
>science of coffee
>accurate measurement in brewing
>deep understanding of properties of coffee
>water chemistry
>development of brewing equipment
so 3rd wave with even moar autism applied

BUT…what does 4th wave coffee mean to you?

[Anonymous No.17114339]

>>17114120
The ability to make the best possible cup with the least effort from the consumer. Popularization of good coffee.
>inb4 seethe

[Anonymous No.17114362]

>>17114120
4th wave is more the direct buying, roasting of, and making of coffee by the end consumer from the growers. Fuck corporations. Individuals and small businesses only. It's already happening and they hate it. Seethe, useless, parasitic middlemen.

[Anonymous No.17114399]

>>17114120
It's all of that, simultaneously

Full on coffee autism becoming more mainstream, zoomers applying their retarded "food is political" horseshit to coffee, and corporations capitalizing on all of it wherever they can.

It's annoying as fuck because you end up with a lot of dumbasses acting like experts you have to deal with but also nice because there's more resources available for people who genuinely want to get into the hobby.

[Anonymous No.17114504]

>>17114399
do K-Cups and similar ilk factor into this as well? because to me that seems like a regression rather than an advancement

[Anonymous No.17114567]

I've got some preground autodrip I want to use up on my v60. Do you just reduce the number of pours from 5 to 4? Or from 5 to 3? for a finer grind to prevent it from clogging at the end? Only the 5th pour clogged, but I figure 4 pours with more water might still clog it.

[Anonymous No.17114581]

>>17114120
It's dishonest and pretentious to claim a new wave as it's supposed to be happening, that would be assuming your stupid little issue was going to be the next paradigm shift in coffee. Waves are only recognized in hindsight, and the further you can look in the past and categorize the eras based on major changes and lasting trends, the better.

And dome major changes were never thought of as waves and probably never will be. Single cup brewers invaded households, but we'd like to ignore that because its a step backwards in quality, despite it changing the experience of coffee for the masses in a big way. The vast majority of people have never had speciality coffee or whatever is so damn important to be called third wave.

[Anonymous No.17114586]

>>17114362
What about growing your own coffee?

[Anonymous No.17114616]

>>17112808
speaking of "without obsessively getting into it", how easy is it to drop the pressure on the BBE to 9 bar? I guess this would void your warranty right?

[Anonymous No.17114711]

>>17114586
unless you live on Kilimanjaro or in the Andes, that's not a viable proposition

[Anonymous No.17114787]

>>17112866
>be me
>in america
>try to order espresso at mcdo
>worker: "wut?"
>can you make a caffelatte?
>worker: "latte, yeah."
>can you make it without the milk?
>worker: i... i guess?
>makes espresso
>it's good
Haven't been back to an American McDo to try it again since, but it hit the spot at the time. Certainly better than Starbucks, at the very least.

[Anonymous No.17115015]

>>17114787
I think you were lucky, I got espresso at mcdonalds once and it was literally black acid. Just tasting them through milk enough times though, I know they have wide quality swings. So that's why I can entertain that you like the shot you got

[Anonymous No.17115024]

You guys do have a roller mill grinder right?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WkYqHWThIpA

[Anonymous No.17115029]

>>17115024
There is literally zero (0) evidence that the $500,000 grinder is better than the Breville SGP you deranged cargo cultist

[Anonymous No.17115035]

>>17115029
They actually did measurements so I expect a lot of seethe here that $500 is still poorfag tier and has shit distribution

[Anonymous No.17115048]

>>17115035
>poorfag tier
What you retards don't understand is its always been relative. Lagom P64s are about a grand more than a Baratza vario. Or $8.30 a month more over 10 years. If you don't think you're worth spending an extra subway footlong on a month, noone is going to be able to change your mind.

[Anonymous No.17115073]

>>17115048
Yes people are poor relative to me, how could you tell?

>Or $8.30 a month more over 10 years.
This is why you are poor. big number become little number divided by a literal decade. Cover the basics first, like your home, children, retirement, instead of justifying expenditures you can't be making for coffee. Buy it with money, not with cope.

[Anonymous No.17115136]

>>17115073
God damn dude your life must be trash. I'm not going to sleep on the floor or buy knives from dollar tree to kick a few bucks more into retirement. You should be biking everywhere, foraging, and living the crunchy life instead of justifying expenditures you can't be making for fuel and groceries.

[Anonymous No.17115278]

>>17115136
You don't understand, I can spend $1500 on a grinder because it's not much money to me. You can't, not even close, yet you justify the reckless expenditure anyway because everything is affordable to you if you buy it over 10 years, well why don't you own everything then? And now you're making the false equivalence: "Unless I spend $1500 on a grinder, I might as well sleep on the floor and buy knives from the dollar tree." Did you think you were the voice of reason when you typed that out? lmao

Get on a better trajectory dude. I'm only telling you what's best for you. Don't get so mad about it

[Anonymous No.17115310]

>>17115278
My birthday is coming up in a few days. What cigar should I smoke?

[Anonymous No.17115332]

>>17115029
>Breville SGP
LOL

[Anonymous No.17115584]

>>17112266
Here's my iced coffee recipe, I hope you guys make it and then tell me what you think:
Ingredients:
>Ground cafe du monde (or preferred coffee. Cheaper coffees require no cold brew hot bloom and can be directly cold brewed).
RATIO: ONE CUP COFFEE-4 CUPS WATER
>Star anise (~2 pods/1 teaspoon),
>Vanilla extract,
>Cloves (2-4 cloves to taste; you can always add more at the end but you can't take away!),
>Cinnamon (about 1/2 to 1 stick, or, 1/4 to 1/2 teaspoon ground),
>Ginger (4 teaspoons),
>Nutmeg (1 teaspoon. Remember that nutmeg is sweet and you're adding sweetened milk, this recipe makes 4 servings!) to taste,
>1/4 cup coconut cream (NOT CREAM OF COCONUT, that is sweetened), 1/4 cup sweetened condensed milk (total, so 1/16 cup or 1 tablespoon per drink, of each),

Cold brew, hot bloom your coffee: pour about 1.5 cups of hot water over the grounds, shove your spices and vanilla in while it's still hot, allow to bloom for 30 seconds, then pour over the rest of your water. Let steep in the fridge or at room temp--covered, obviously--overnight. Let those flavors get to know eachother and mingle. You can add your 1/2 cup coconut cream and 1/2 cup S.C. milk now, or 1/16 cup each, per drink, when you are serving it. I prefer now.

Take that bitch out, filter it through a fine meshed sieve. Drink it.

[Anonymous No.17115590]

>>17115584
Cold brew, hot bloom makes me kek every single time. What the fuck was he thinking?

[Anonymous No.17115624]

>>17114787
>Certainly better than Starbucks, at the very least.
the last two times i ordered "just an espresso" at charbux they had a really hard time finding a cup to serve it in

[Anonymous No.17115670]

>>17115590
The guy thought he was heston blumenthol and just amalgamated different "techinques" he thought sounded good. He posted a steak recipe where you coated it in mayo, lard, avocado oil, and butter all at different stages of the cook.

[Anonymous No.17115791]

i fucked up my roast today and it took 25 minutes to get to the second cracks. can i get an F in the chat

[Anonymous No.17115808]

>>17115791
Only way to save is it hot bloom cold brew.

[Anonymous No.17115837]

>>17115791
buy pre roasted beans faggot. you don't know what the hell you're doing.

[Anonymous No.17115868]

>>17115837
i just haven't roasted in over half a year. i had a feeling my heat was way too low but i wanted to see how it would turn out because i'm still experimenting and learning. i really haven't done many roasts and this has probably been the worst. regardless, it still beats the hell out of buying pre-roasted. doing something yourself always feels better

[Anonymous No.17115874]

>>17115791
Breville SGP will make short work of those beans, anon

[Anonymous No.17116579]

>>17114120
none of that can be considered 4th wave all the examples are just extensions of 3rd wave
if anything, the cycle is repeating itself with the pervasiveness of instant coffee being rebranded as coffee pods and the preponderance of cheaply-manufactured coffee esoterica masquerading as high-end gear targeted at people who want to pretend to be a barista in their own homes

[Anonymous No.17116664]

Finally gonna ditch the Keurig and get a real coffee maker
Any suggestions? The convenience was obviously a big plus but I can part ways with it if need be.

[Anonymous No.17116666]

>>17116664
Gevi 2 in 1.

[Anonymous No.17117145]

>>17114711
Theoretically, we can grow robusta or really shitty arabica, but Good Coffee can only be grown in the ideal combinaion of tropical and subtropical climates with high elevations. Something about the right amount of sunshine, temperature, rainfall, soil type and drainage, high elevation, and atmospheric pressure produces harder seeds in the coffee cherries due to a longer, but more stable growing season. I hope that one day some fucking nerds can figure out how to grow good arabicas indoors. Makes me think of how far the technology of indoor pot growers has come after decades of very dedicated nerds. The motivation to do this just isn't there yet because it isn't economically viable. If some kind of climate issue or shipping crisis occurs it will be serious business to figure it out.

[Anonymous No.17117149]

>>17116664
Try coffee with hickory if you haven't already.

[Anonymous No.17117154]

for me, it's pre-ground in french press :(

[Anonymous No.17117169]

>>17112221
After every use with dishsoap. Take it apart as much as you can, soap up everything and wash and wipe off.

[Anonymous No.17117263]

>>17111793
Vietnamese?

[Anonymous No.17117305]

>>17117154
bone apple tea

[Anonymous No.17117530]

When Americans make coffee in a pot, do they leave it on the heater all day and fill their cup whenever they want some more? Won't this make it bitter and unpleasant after an hour or two?

[Anonymous No.17117533]

>>17117530
just add cream and sugar. problem solved

[Anonymous No.17117585]

>>17117530
yes we most definitely all do that and in fact it is required by law because our taste in coffee lacks the sophistication of whatever shithole you live in

[Anonymous No.17117688]

Nice to taste an Indonesian bean that isn't mediocre. What origin/varietal you drinking /ctg/?

[Anonymous No.17118099]

>>17117688
Colombian
However I've only brewed it twice and both were fucked so I can't comment on it.

[Anonymous No.17118559]

>>17117530
The people who do that are already drinking shitty stale preground dark roasted robusta, a little overheating isn't gonna make much of a difference

[Anonymous No.17118567]

Just listened to my mother in law say "once upon a time I had a microwaveable one [espresso machine], it actually made pretty decent expresso"

Pray for me /ctg/

[Anonymous No.17118650]

>>17118567
if she liked it, how is it hurting you?

[Anonymous No.17118672]

>>17112800

[Anonymous No.17118705]

>>17118650
Being forced to sit and listen to a boomer with shit taste talk about things they have no clue about as though they were an expert is suffering anon

[Anonymous No.17118709]

>>17118705
but if she enjoyed it, what difference does it make to you?

[Anonymous No.17118739]

>>17118709
>Why is a poster in coffee autism general put off by listening to someone existing shit coffee opinions?

Where exactly do you think you are?

[Anonymous No.17118794]

>>17118739
this is /ctg/
all levels of experience & expertise are welcome
all brew methods, beans, and grinders are valid
something that one person likes best isn’t necessarily better or worse than something that someone else likes best

even bad coffee is still coffee
we were all new at some point
taste is subjective and cannot be objectively right or wrong

[Anonymous No.17118801]

>>17118794
Yeah okay retardo

[Anonymous No.17118818]

>>17118567
Googled this and it looks like an upside down moka pot, black and decker makes a right side up one? It's all plastic. Not really your MIL's fault they lied about what it was.

You should buy one, do a head to head taste test with her and massacre her boy.

[Anonymous No.17118828]

>>17117530
No, a batch will only be used for a few hours then thrown out

[Anonymous No.17118840]

>>17118801
look if you want to really get into serious gate keeping, there are probably other coffee forums on the tubes that might be better suited for you
that said, your welcome here but try and be more open in the future
but what I think you need to do now is apologize to your mother-in-law and your wife for being such an insufferable faggot

[Anonymous No.17118863]

>>17118840
This nigga third-party simping for old ladies he's never met.

Are you the same faggot who was getting upset that people were making fun of that one guy's retarded son?

[Anonymous No.17118922]

>>17118863
>Are you the same faggot who was getting upset that people were making fun of that one guy's retarded son?
I have absolutely no clue what in fuck's name your on about but I do know that the worst kind of schizo is the kind who fixates on every little thing they don't agree with and believe that there's only one person out to get them
if your gonna stay here, why not drop the attitude and the street language? it's not befitting of someone with such extraordinary taste in coffee

[Anonymous No.17118930]

>>17118922
>I do know that the worst kind of schizo is the kind who fixates on every little thing they don't agree with
You mean like you're doing right now?

[Anonymous No.17118987]

>>17118930
no, not at all
and its sad that you lack the comprehension to understand the difference
we're obviously having a conversation; one replies to the other, back-and-forth, and so on
I feel horribly for your long-suffering wife & mother-in-law for having to deal with you in real life

[Anonymous No.17119011]

>>17118922
>but I do know that the worst kind of schizo is the kind who fixates on every little thing they don't agree with and believe that there's only one person out to get them

What's this called? It's like the opposite of a gang stalking delusion. Instead of imagining that everyone they encounter is stalking them, they imagine everyone that disagrees with them is the same singular person that's out to get them. Many times here I'll see a "are you that ____ anon with that _____ opinion I'm buttblasted about?"

Also for those reading this that are afflicted with this obsession, I am in fact, that anon :)

[Anonymous No.17119049]

Is this too coarse for moka?

[Anonymous No.17119102]

>>17117263
No, but they use a modified version of our coffee maker (ours is older than is theirs) and we were both under French rule at some point, so there is some shared coffee history between us, yes. Good guess.

[Anonymous No.17119338]

>>17119049
too coarse for coldbrew

[Anonymous No.17119349]

>>17119049
The best part about mocha (or moka) is that chocolate doesn't really care how coarse or fine your grounds are. It mixes right in with the brewed coffee and you can add as much or as little as you like.
Me personally? I like adding a little chocolate Van Gogh vodka to my mochas.

[Anonymous No.17119356]

>>17119338
>>17119349
Sorry I meant Moka pot.

[Anonymous No.17119365]

>>17119049
it is. you can try it anyway, but you'll likely end up with a weak cup
you could just cup it

[Anonymous No.17119398]

>>17119365
I see. I can find either too fine or too coarse at the supermarket. Maybe I should stop using pregrinded and start grinding it myself I don't know
Ty anyway

[Anonymous No.17119417]

>>17119398
What do you find that's too fine for a Moka pot?

[Anonymous No.17119430]

>>17119049
If its blurry in your lens is going to be blurry in the cup.

[Anonymous No.17119433]

>>17119417
I don't have it in the house so I can't take a picture
But basically it's the kind of fine that you use for espresso
And I've been reading on guides online that you want coarser than espresso for Moka

[Anonymous No.17119461]

>>17119433
just buy a can of bustelo or alessi it's obvious you don't give a shit about how it tastes and neither do we

[Anonymous No.17119487]

>>17119461
Certainly, Cafe Bustelo thinks that their ground coffee is appropriate for a Moka pot -- several of the recipes on their website explicitly call for one.

[Anonymous No.17119639]

>>17119349
Can't tell if newfag or underrated trolling

[Anonymous No.17119681]

>>17119655
I realize that this is anecdotal but I destructively tested the safety valve on a moka pot a great number of years ago
if the grind is really fine like what you'd put through a proper espresso machine, the water cannot pass through the grounds at all and blows steam out the valve

[Anonymous No.17119704]

>>17119681
Do you remember any details? Did you get the espresso grind from a supermarket, a specialty store, or your own grinder? Did you tamp the grounds down?
(I'm vaguely thinking of getting a Moka pot.)

[Anonymous No.17119727]

>>17119704
I know I ground them with a mazer, same setting I was using for my machine that day
I might have tamped as well, my recollection is hazy and I can't find any pictures of the event but it was sort of anticlimactic; steam just came out of the steam valve and the puck was bone dry with the tiniest amount of channeling where the water was trying to get in

my advice for anyone considering buying a moka pot is in the form of a question:
what are you hoping to achieve?

[Anonymous No.17119775]

>>17119727
For me (the one you are directly responding to), I am just curious about different ways of making coffee, and a Moka pot seems like a smaller investment in money, space, and headspace than a full-blown espresso machine.

[Anonymous No.17119808]

>>17119433
Preground shit you buy that's labeled as being for espresso is too coarse for espresso, because the kind of people who want to buy preground to use for espresso are using a shitty machine with a pressurized portafilter or something like a moka pot

[Anonymous No.17119825]

>>17119727
Well you're not supposed to tamp for a moka pot so if you did that's probably what caused it more than anything.

[Anonymous No.17119836]

>>17119775
if your okay with the fact that the moka doesn't make espresso, there's nothing wrong with having one they're as cheap as can be and a totally iconic piece of coffee hardware
the struggle to clean a moka pot involves letting it cool enough to disassemble and then promptly washing
it makes dark strong coffee, but lacks the finesse of proper espresso and the inability to make milk drinks without additional hardware

the full-blown espresso machine is another conversation all together
there are maybe 10 or so dedicated regulars in these threads who bring about 20 or so varying opinions about espresso machines, each believing that the one they own is the best value and anything moar expensive is a ripoff and anything less expensive is poorfag-tier
the hidden cost of the real espresso machine then becomes getting oneself a grinder that is worthy in quality commensurate to the machine

[Anonymous No.17119841]

>drink coffee
>it's good
Why?

[Anonymous No.17119845]

>>17119841
Happy brain chemical

[Anonymous No.17119864]

>>17119775
>seems like a smaller investment in money, space, and headspace than a full-blown espresso machine
Flairshill here. Just get a neo and blow preground through a pressurized basket until you feel like buying a grinder and upgrading to bottomless and a pressure gauge.

[Anonymous No.17119890]

>>17119864
this is horrible advice
anyone thinking about getting involved in flairs should watch the hoffmeme video where he tries one out for the first time
if your willing to go through all that for a cup of coffee, moar power to you

but my feelings are that the average fag doesn't have the level of autism required to add that kind of struggle to their lives just to drink coffee
it's a tool for nerds not noobs

[Anonymous No.17119892]

>>17119864
Why the fuck would buy a flair just to blow preground through a pressurized basket

[Anonymous No.17119917]

>>17117688
I have a teeny bit of Ethiopian beans and some from Yemen, both pretty good. Just ordered some from Sey from the Democratic Republic Of Congo, it's new I think and I can't wait to try it. Usually just get stuff from my local shop but I've been wanting to try something new.

[Anonymous No.17119965]

What espresso machine should I buy? I want espresso like I had in Italy. Under 1k usd.

[Anonymous No.17119976]

>>17119965
Rancilio Silvia

[Anonymous No.17120080]

>>17119965
increase your budget a bit and look at rocket or quick mill or anything with an E61 grouphead you might be able to find something used

[Anonymous No.17120103]

>>17119890
>>17119892
>, I am just curious about different ways of making coffee, and a Moka pot seems like a smaller investment in money, space, and headspace than a full-blown espresso machine.
If you're going to be running preground through a neo you're probably not bothering with an elaborate preheat ritual. Its a $125 drop in the bucket(that easily disassembles) for him to make frothy strong coffee without a grinder and a cheap path for him to upgrade to if he ever wants to chase the tism.
>should watch the hoffmeme video where he tries one out for the first time
Its like you homos retain zero information. He's looking for flaws and the flaw he found was he has 50k of Victoria Arduino machines + a decent around to play with and wouldn't use the flair lol.

[Anonymous No.17120216]

>>17120103
>the flaw he found was he has 50k of Victoria Arduino machines
yeah but also pay attention to the part where not everyone wants to assemble tinker toys just to have a single coffee, let alone 2 +
and he didn't even show the process of cleaning out the basket and resetting for a second shot

my point stands:
>the average fag doesn't have the level of autism required to add that kind of struggle to their lives just to drink coffee

[Anonymous No.17120459]

>>17111929
>thinking more than 3 retards on here actually know espresso
literally go ask reddit instead. espresso subreddity will sort you out

[Anonymous No.17120735]

Is instant coffee really not THAT bad? My grandma put a jar of Café Bustelo Espresso instant coffee and it’s legit not that bad. It apparently only cost $5 and it’s probably going to last me over a month. It’s certainly better than McDonald’s and Tim Horton’s coffee

[Anonymous No.17120749]

>>17120735
It's not bad when milked and sugared but it's wholly unpalatable on its own. If you like it, though, stick with it. How do you take it? Ever make Greek iced coffee with it?

[Anonymous No.17120765]

>>17120749
I’m a coffee snob. I go to coffee shops 5 or 6 times a week. I always drink my coffee black or I drink espesso macchiatos — flat whites here and there. I honestly don’t think this instant stuff is THAT bad. Especially since it’s like maybe 5 or 10 cents a cup

[Anonymous No.17120782]

>>17120735
Why the fuck does mcdonald’s coffee smell like chemicals? Is it their shitty cups? Makes me want to gag whenever I have a McDonald’s hot coffee in my car. And half the time the coffee tastes like an ash tray — which I assume is because the machine isn’t cleaned property by the meth addicts who work there?

[Anonymous No.17120800]

>>17120765
Well good on ya, then. When the stuff is on its own, I just fucking can't, but like I said: if ya likes it, you do you, boo.

[Anonymous No.17120869]

Bros I make cold coffee and leave it in the fridge in a thermos to drink on lunch the following day (I work on the road, no fridge), and no matter what I do the flavour is extraordinary dulled by the time I drink it. I'm having to add a few teaspoons of sugar just to have some flavour, even though i never sweeten any other coffee.

I'm doing this with an aeropress, 25 grams of coffee for hot brewed or 30 grams for cold brewed. Same issue with both types.

I have a pour over, french press, moka, and aeropress. How do I make this coffee nice for the following day?

[Anonymous No.17120965]

>>17120216
>process of cleaning out the basket and resetting for a second shot
You knock out the coffee and wipe it out. Real simple.
>assemble tinker toys
its a frame and an arm that slot together. I could see that being a hurdle for the developmentally disabled, but I don't see it stopping normal people.

[Anonymous No.17121573]

Who affogato here?

>>17111864
"She" is a drawing...
https://duckduckgo.com/?t=ffab&q=pinup+artist&iax=images&ia=images

[Anonymous No.17121610]

Whiskey or Baileys?

[Anonymous No.17121620]

>>17121610
Try cognac

[Anonymous No.17121728]

Tell me if this is typical cfg, new to coffee here

I go in a coffee shop and buy some beans the day after thanksgiving, he tells me they just got them in

I've been ignoring the last of that bag trying other coffee, and decided to use the last of it tonight. But it smelled awful, 2 weeks and it smelled just awful. I tried to shoot espresso through it and I forgot the grind setting, but when I started getting crema it was thin grease slick with popping bubbles that left black voids on the surface and it just looked disgusting.

So the last of my coffee is some supermarket beans I got a week before that maybe, and the smell is off on that too.

So is stale coffee supposed to smell sour and go rancid quickly? Is something fucked up about the air in my house?

[Anonymous No.17121802]

>>17121573
Someone say affogato?

[Anonymous No.17121879]

>>17121728
In my pantry, the coffee beans just go stale and tasteless when I leave it for too long. Check where you store it is damp or hot or humid.

>>17121802
Yes

[Anonymous No.17122013]

>>17119917
How good is the Yemen? I've only had RDC specialty beans once, they had a great orange note.

[Anonymous No.17122436]

>>17121728
How were they packed? Sealed bag with a one way valve, or what? Definitely sounds like something unusual happened there

[Anonymous No.17122880]

>>17120103
>>17120965
Anon, please. It's disingenuous to assume that everyone else is going to want to achieve your level of enthusiasm towards a new appliance that takes more than baseline effort to learn how to use properly. The majority of coffee drinkers don't want to work too much to get their coffee or think too hard about how to make it. Some might, but you gotta acknowledge the fact that they're few and far between.
The reason why pod coffee has caught on so much more than owning a cheap lever machine is totally about convenience. Most coffee drinkers just want to flip a switch and get some coffee or even just pay for a cup every morning on the way to work.

[Anonymous No.17123150]

>>17119890
>anyone thinking about getting involved in flairs should watch the hoffmeme video where he tries one out for the first time
semi-auto espresso machines aren't much better. preheating? backflushing? temperature surfing? descaling?
it gets easy once you get used to the workflow, just like a lever machine.

[Anonymous No.17123253]

>>17117530
They're already drinking coffee in a pot anon. Do you really think they care about the taste of their coffee at all?

[Anonymous No.17123255]

>>17122880
>takes more than baseline effort to learn how to use properly. The majority of coffee drinkers don't want to work too much to get their coffee or think too hard about how to make it.
Again I'm not sure why you think spraying preground coffee through a pressurized basket is involved. Preheating isn't going to make a difference in that scenario. You fill a basket, boil water, and press. If you'd listen to hoffmeme instead of getting lost in his dreamy eyes he says it's pretty fucking intuitive. He'll have fun with it. I'm not suggesting he buy a flair58 lunar sep and df64 and start charting flow.

[Anonymous No.17123421]

>>17123150
certainly not
also notice that I'm not quick to suggest an espresso machine in the first place, for those reasons and more
see >>17119836 and in particular this bit:
>the full-blown espresso machine is another conversation all together

>>17120965
lol
you'll never be able to understand the point I'm trying to make with that attitude

[Anonymous No.17123456]

Is boiling coffee really a thing?

[Anonymous No.17123460]

>>17123456
I don't understand the question, are you asking whether people make coffee by boiling water?

[Anonymous No.17123472]

>>17123460
No, I'm asking wheter people make coffee by boiling coffee. Like the guy in the pic
He boils water, then he adds coffee, and let it boils on the fire for several minutes. I've been reading about people doing this online and I'm wondering if that taste good.

[Anonymous No.17123480]

>>17123472
Literally just Google cowboy coffee, it's called that for a reason anon

[Anonymous No.17123506]

>>17121728
I stored a sumatran dark roast in a mason jar and it smelled absolutely rancid after a week. couldn't even get the smell out of the jar.

[Anonymous No.17123515]

>>17121728
Sounds like too much mustard gas

[Anonymous No.17123522]

>>17121728
>>17122436
Oh forgot to say, they were just in a bag and not air sealed. Medium roast

Was surprised because I've never smelled ancient preground supermarket coffee that smelled like rot, I just expected it to smell weak or like nothing. So I wondered what the difference was. Maybe the beans I bought lack some processing or preservative?

[Anonymous No.17123567]

>>17123421
>you'll never be able to understand the point I'm trying to make with that attitude
I don't think you have a point. I used one for years and can speak directly on the workflow. You watched a hoffmeme video from years ago and ignored what he said. Slight difference.

[Anonymous No.17123576]

>>17123522
Sounds like some weird combination of staling and moisture possibly getting into it, if the area you're storing it is particularly humid it could have started growing mildewy or something.

Store your coffee in an airtight container anon.

[Anonymous No.17123898]

>>17123567
oh but I do have a point and it's very related to the exercise bike or treadmill sitting over there in the corner that was bought years ago because it seemed like a good idea but no one uses it anymoar
(inb4 "I don't own any exercise equipment and I'm too dense to understand metaphors")

my advice for anyone who wants to get into convoluted methods for making coffee is, generally, DON'T
that said, there can be exceptions to that and good arguments made as to why one should want to
indeed, you obviously love your flair or you wouldn't constantly prattle on about how everyone else needs to buy one too; but it is working for you and that's a good thing because you're having a good time with it and that is all that should matter to you

like >>17122880 said convenience is generally a very big factor to consider when selecting a brew method, and what seems convenient to some seems totally unreasonable to others
to most sane people my own daily espresso routine probably appears very unreasonable, and I recognize this about myself so I'm hesitant to suggest anyone (besides the most anal retentive autist) travel down the path that I have taken in pursuit of the perfect cup of espresso

care, cleaning, preventative maintenance, technical support, and parts availability should definitely factor into a decision
and budget
and recognizing that no matter what you buy initially you will always be thinking about something better, something different, something else
or you will use it a few times and then realize that the lifestyle isn't for you and it will end up like the exercise bike over in the corner

if you remember back to yesterday, anon just wants to buy a moka pot
let him buy his moka pot and then he can figure out for himself how deep he wants to get but don't go shilling meme coffee brewers and expect that everyone will have as good a time as you did with it

[Anonymous No.17123995]

>>17123898
>my advice for anyone who wants to get into convoluted methods for making coffee is, generally, DON'T
My advice is if you think boiling water, dosing, and brewing coffee is convoluted you're eliminating nearly every brew method but kcups and superautomatics.
>indeed, you obviously love your flair or you wouldn't constantly prattle on about how everyone else needs to buy one too
I'm actually not all that attached to it, I just don't think theres a better cheaper intro to psuedoespresso and eventually espresso. If odyssey does a decent job with the argos I'll most likely sell the 58 and swap it out.

[Anonymous No.17124323]

>>17112741
OP is a drawing you weeb

[Anonymous No.17124497]

>>17123995
hey, we finally found common ground!
I, for one, couldn't be happier because I knew deep down that your not a complete retard and are probably actually a pretty cool guy owing much to the fact that we share a troubling obsession with caffeine-delivery systems

I think that some people do have an aversion to boiling water, take my geriatric parents for instance
they have an automatic coffee pot, but when they're around me I make sure to give them some good pourover which they always enjoy very much and remark on how much better it is than what they drink at home
I offered to get them a nice setup…electric kettle, V60, glass serving vessel, scale, grinder…but my idea was shot down: watching me make coffee, my mom said "I don't WANT to do that every time I want coffee"
for me making pourover is fun, for them it doesn't integrate into their lifestyle and represents a hassle when compared to a hot carafe full of coffee sitting safely in the coffee maker all morning long
they recognize the quality of my methods, but fail to see any added value in adopting it themselves, and this is true for anything new that requires some understanding and dedication to get right

I don't think you understood why I brought up the hoffmeme video in the first place
some people might see it and roll their fucking eyes, and others might think "this thing is cool, this is something I can get into"
the reason why I used that video as an example was that when I very first heard about flairs, that happened to be the first thing to pop up and I watched it and it pretty much showed me everything I needed to know about a flair

I'm not a leverfag, I don't think I ever will be but maybe when I run out of things to spend money on and find a spot to put it I'll get a lever machine to play with too
I understand why they're gaining traction, remove the expense of a pump and you can make a machine with good performance for less money
the trade off is one's own definition of convenience

[Anonymous No.17124626]

>>17123456
I call it Turkish...

[Anonymous No.17124628]

>>17111171
Guji-dimtufag reporting for the first time in a bit. I ended up trading my Timemore for a Lido 3 which I had been wanting forever just for the looks. I gotta say, despite being a bit harder to use, it definitely makes a much better cup of coffee. I was really happy with the C2, but this definitely makes cups that are more in line with my tastes. I'm definitely locked in with this grinder, and I see no reason to upgrade later.

[Anonymous No.17124682]

>>17121728
>>17123576
So I went back to the same coffee shop and got their dark roast instead

It had the same smell, maybe not as bad + some sweetness. The smell was a bit unpleasant to work with but it didn't stink up the kitchen like the older batch. And I didn't like the flavor of the espresso I made, something was yucky about it, but it did look normal and the crema was stable. I made a cap with it and not only did it taste fine but it tasted familiar. So maybe that's just the aroma of this coffee and I need to look for something else. It's kind of like how a skunk smells like mere rubber driving on the road and you wonder what's so bad about it. But now that I know what the skunk smells like at full power so to speak I don't want my coffee to taste like this.

[Anonymous No.17124843]

>>17122013
I got the Yemen from my kinda local shop Sump in St Louis but it was pretty damn good. Definitely one of the top 10 I've ever bought, was surprised by the fruitiness even though I was expecting a little. My local shop hasn't gotten anything new in a while so I just decided to order from Sey.

[Anonymous No.17124982]

>>17124497
Christ you're dumb. And you've got bad genes.

[Anonymous No.17125192]

>>17124982
Just read this conversation between the two of you, put your tampax in the garbage can, don't post it here

[Anonymous No.17125232]

>>17125192
>watched a hoffman video with the sound off and it pretty much showed me everything I needed to know about a flair
>compares pressurized preground to his mom's aversion to work
Going to guess there was alot of frozen meals in his life. Raised by ore-ida.

[Anonymous No.17125364]

>>17125192
lel

[Anonymous No.17125387]

DF64 or Eureka Mignon Silenzio with a single-dose mod?

[Anonymous No.17125391]

>>17125387
should add, mostly for espresso but also pour over sometimes

[Anonymous No.17125449]

>>17125387
I watched 1/6th of a hoffman video on the df64 so I say mignon.

[Anonymous No.17125559]

>>17125449
hoffmeme's small hangups have largely been fixed

[Anonymous No.17125576]

>>17125559
No dude, I watched it and it pretty much showed me everything I needed to know about a df64. You'll never be able to understand the point I'm trying to make with that attitude.

[Anonymous No.17125624]

>>17125576
are you SGP-anon

[Anonymous No.17125655]

>>17125624
I make about 1/15 sgp jokes here.

[Anonymous No.17125713]

>>17125624
sgp anon here, he is not

[Anonymous No.17125906]

>>17125655
well just so you know they’re funny about 0% of the time
>>17125713
fuck you

[Anonymous No.17125909]

>>17125906
I don't post them to be funny moron, I post them to keep the thread bumped.

[Anonymous No.17125963]

>>17123576
>airtight
Only if you touch it often, you want to open it occasionally and let the gases escape.

[Anonymous No.17126042]

>>17125909
>>17125655
>>17125576
wait, so are you the fag who drove away cold-yourself-cum-brew-anon because you couldn't stop deriding the poor fuck over his recipe?

[Anonymous No.17126268]

Coffee time?

[Anonymous No.17126334]

Impulse bought French press because I overdosed on hoffman videos.
It's alright. Feels a bit like a hot coldbrew. I still prefer moka

[Anonymous No.17126469]

It's good lads.
https://theroasterie.com/products/40-sardines

[Anonymous No.17126551]

Looking into getting a comandante hand grinder in the new year so I can stop buying pre-ground coffee for my french press.
Any reason why I shouldn't?

[Anonymous No.17126669]

>>17124682
Skunky coffee is either a poor quality, defective coffee, poorly roasted, or a combination of the two.

[Anonymous No.17126894]

>>17126042
I was the first to berate him, but I was far from the last.

[Anonymous No.17126912]

>>17126894
Are you an asshole in real life too or is it just part of your tough-guy internet personae? I’m starting to get the feeling that these threads would be a lot more enjoyable for everyone if you stopped posting.

[Anonymous No.17126989]

>>17126912
You'd think so, but whenever I step out its just breville sgp and aeropress questions. Now dry those tears and come back next time with something worthwhile to contribute.

https://www.mediafire.com/folder/3zlza5zos6d28/ctg

[Anonymous No.17127141]

>>17126989
>something worthwhile to contribute
I’m sorry. Do you mean something worthwhile like:
>harassing someone who was sharing a recipe for cold brew coffee in a coffee thread?
>waging a personal war against some maladjusted soul who only wanted people to consider other options before simply running out and buying a flair?
>bumping threads with low-effort memes instead of posting quality content like, maybe, images of coffee?
>engaging with others in countless previous threads, providing no information and just trolling them for teh lulz?
>posting frogs & wojaks (well at least until you got a 3 day timeout for doing that a month or so ago)?
Yeah, you seem like a real asset to /ctg/. We’re all super glad you’re here.

[Anonymous No.17127176]

>>17127141
>instead of posting quality content like, maybe, images of coffee?
Its funny because I see maybe 3 oc coffees in this thread and my affogato is one of them. Any worthwhile contributions other than tears? Have you spent any time at all tracking down ebooks or purchased books for posters here? I don't even see you posting coffee.

[Anonymous No.17127191]

>>17127176
I started this thread. Something I post images and you’d recognize them immediately if I did, but I usually just browse these threads rather than contribute. I just noticed you acting a fool and decided to say something about it.

[Anonymous No.17127205]

>>17127191
Sticking a sign in the ground isn't a contribution.
>There are three intolerable things in life
>cold coffee,
>lukewarm champagne,
>and overexcited women.
A real magnum opus.

[Anonymous No.17127206]

>>17126912
Jesus Christ what is it lately with bleeding heart retards trying to make this place some kind of Twitter safe space. Are you this much of a self-righteous prick in real life?

[Anonymous No.17127219]

>>17125906
>well just so you know they’re funny about 0% of the time

sgp sympathizer

[Anonymous No.17127232]

>>17126669
Well there's no difference to me between poor quality and me not liking it, except maybe the beans are defective from an accident and might be fixed at some point.

I wonder if I just tasted the sour/fermented category of coffee. Or is that supposed to be good?

[Anonymous No.17127286]

I started lurking this general about 2 months ago and my fresh take is that assholes too often aren't constructive here, or some questions or comments trigger some grudge they have with another poster you've never heard of. All of 4chan has a base level of mean spirit but I really question the quality of this general and wonder if it used to be better. It's kind of slow and it seems obvious people don't want to be here. The help is ok I guess. And maybe it's not just the posters here, creative boards on 4chan have really fallen behind other sites as places to learn and see accomplishment.

[Anonymous No.17127368]

>>17127286
Nice blog post, contribute or shut the fuck up.

[Anonymous No.17127373]

>>17127232
Nobody likes coffee with skunk or burnt rubber flavors. Inherent defects in the beans and/or scorched (heat too high) during roast. Keep an eye on roasters who keep selling coffee like this over time. They're not on top of their shit if this happens often. Bad buying or bad roasting. Customers shouldn't be paying a specialty coffee premium for bad coffee.

[Anonymous No.17127438]

>>17127206
You know its this same idiot right?
>I'm not really liking this disparaging talk of that guy's son. Pretty uncool. Boys get shit on enough merely for existing now.
>>17127286
>The help is ok I guess.
Two people here are recently excited about their Eureka mignons from my recommendation. OP wants more PC discussion on chinkshit kingrinders.

[Anonymous No.17127445]

>>17127368
excellent job proving the point

[Anonymous No.17127472]

Aeropress is so much better than v60. All I can get out out the v60 is mud. Ceramic holds heat better than plastic because the heat from ceramic goes into my hand and the heat from the plastic goes into the air. My retard parents can't pour from their moccamaster without spilling whatdo?

[Anonymous No.17127480]

>>17127472

[Anonymous No.17127482]

>>17127472
Have you tried kingrinder? It's pretty awesome and will probably fix all your v60 issues. Even if it's still a little muddy I've got a great cold brew recipe that should make up for it.

[Anonymous No.17127494]

I forgot to mention this but I just got the Kingrinder K0 I ordered some time ago.
The posts above reminded me I haven't posted about it here lmao.

[Anonymous No.17127495]

>>17127482
Are the burrs made of steel? I expect a great deal from no name subsidiaries selling rebrands for $38.
>>17127480
Contribute or shut the fuck up. I accurately summarized the last 4 /ctg/s.

[Anonymous No.17127545]

>>17127494
how is it?
I've been using the K1 I got, no complaints so far.
The coffee I've been using is kind of bleh though, lavazza super crema.not the best for my brikka or a french press. I know where to get freshly roasted stuff after I finish this bag.

[Anonymous No.17127594]

>>17125655
I make the other 4/5
>t. doctor

[Anonymous No.17127616]

>>17127286
This general is bitter because we are constantly inundated with the most unbelievably autistic posters imaginable. Nowhere else on /ck/ will you see shit like the cum yourself coffee spergout. We also constantly get people who know little to nothing about coffee asking for advice and then trying to argue with the advice that they are given like the SGP faggot. It's like working in customer service here with the amount of retards that come and go. I also shitpost a lot and contribute to the overall low quality of threads so it's also kind of my fault. I manufactured the ceramic is better than plastic spergout for example and everyone thought it was genuine.

[Anonymous No.17127689]

>>17127616
>everyone thought it was genuine
Oh I knew. Arguing with an apparent bozo teaches you to dumb down concepts. It was a good exercise heatgoesintoairanon.

[Anonymous No.17127716]

>>17127616
>SGP faggot

quick rundown?

[Anonymous No.17127756]

>>17127594
then who was hand crank?

[Anonymous No.17127783]

>>17127689
Unironically though when I make coffee with my plastic V60 I don't think it's as good as my ceramic and I don't know why. Maybe the ceramic is actually bad and I'm just used to it.

[Anonymous No.17127840]

>>17127783
Last Night I brewed Ceramic V60.
I and my friend drank Coffee, half hours later, we pooped. In the morning we got pain head. That is Lead in Ceramic.

[Anonymous No.17127966]

>>17126989
no one wants to read your schizo shit fag this is an image board reddit is for pretending like you know what your talking about

[Anonymous No.17128045]

>>17127783
Unironically the only use my plastic v60 gets is as a funnel for loading roasts into mason jars. I'll use my ceramic origami until it breaks then maybe buy the new plastic.
>>17127966
I'm guessing this isn't the only place you're a waste of space.

[Anonymous No.17128070]

Hey Faggots,
My name is James, and I hate every single one of you. All of you are schizo, autistic, coffee-poseurs who spend every second of their day arguing about stupid ass brew methods. Your grinder is everything bad in the world. Honestly, have any of you ever gotten any espresso? I mean, I guess it's fun pretending to be a barista to other people because of your own coffee gear sucks, but you all take autism to a whole new level. This is even worse than drinking venti lattes at Starfucks
Don't be a stranger. Just hit me with your best shot of espresso. I'm pretty much perfect. I was World Barista Champion, and star in my own YouTube channel. What methods are you brewing, other than “whatever meme shill chinkshit the innertubes tells me to“? I also get single-origin beans, and have a banging hot Flair (I just pulled a shot with it; Shit was SO cash). You are all faggots who should just order your coffee on an app. Thanks for listening.
Pic Related: It's me and my Flair

[Anonymous No.17128078]

>>17128070
Kek

[Anonymous No.17128083]

>>17128070
>V60 is a cargo cult meme device
>French press is a cargo cult meme device
>$130 French press
>Glass is better than steel
>Breville SGP Saga (Grind distribution isn't real, trust the experts, real data, etc.)
>Plastic is better than ceramic
>Kingrinders are 1zpresso factory seconds
>$46 STEEL BURRS
>V60 produces a "muddy" brew
>Coffee experience class
You're not even going to make the list pal.

[Anonymous No.17128163]

>>17128083
What the fuck did you just fucking say about me, you little bitch? I'll have you know I graduated top of my class in the Barista Training Program, and I've been involved in numerous grind settings, and I have over 300 confirmed latte arts. I am trained in saturated group heads and I'm the top barista in the entire Caribou Coffee Company. You are nothing to me but just another name scrawled on a cup. I will steam the fuck out of your non-fat milk with precision the likes of which has never been seen before at this coffeeshop, mark my fucking words. You think you can get away with saying that shit to me over the Internet? Think again, fucker. As we speak I am contacting the CEO of La Marzocco and your little chinkshit grinder is being traced right now so you better prepare for the coffee, maggot. The coffee that wipes out the pathetic little thing you call your sleep. You're fucking awake at 3 in the morning, kid. I can be anywhere, anytime, and I can get you hopped up on caffeine in over seven hundred ways, and that's just with my portafilter. Not only am I extensively trained in pourover, but I have access to the entire coffee bean arsenal of the CECOVASA and I will use it to its full extent to make you the best goddamn cup of coffee you've ever had, you little shit. If only you could have known what unholy retribution your little "clever" comment was about to bring down upon you, maybe you would have preheated your brew chamber a little better. But you couldn't, you didn't, and now you're paying the price, you goddamn sperg. I will pour hot coffee all over you and you will drown in it. You got fucking caffeine psychosis, kiddo.

[Anonymous No.17128207]

>>17128163
Look. I know im responding to a mongoloid, i know. But i have to tell you. You dont know anything about coffee. Read all the faggot books you want. Go to coffee fest and turn your nose up to the italians and masturbate over synesso. Go pay thousands of dollars to be a q gradee and look at coffee under a uv light. Go for it. I dont even care. Just remember kid, i was stripping trucks of supremos while you were in fucking poopy pants diapers. I remeber when Choc full of Nuts delivered coffee in a fucking rolls royce. Your playing yourself, kid.

I have over 100 specialy offerings from 97 different countries of origin in contianer quanities AT ALL TIMES. Wow you say mr. Coffee broker bean KANG you just doxed yourself on the internet, but i dont care. Fuck you. Ive been doing this so long i was playing golf with the nca guys before it blew up ive been a member and disbarred by the scaa more times then your punk ass has even been on there mailing list. Ive FUCKED my way through more coffee roasters secrateries than you even have in your rolodex. I have a warehouse filled with over $1,000,000 of espresso equipment laying DEFUNCT.

People like you, kid, people like your are marks, customers, losers. Go ahead, drink your shitty overextracted coffee; freeze your green coffee; hook up pid machines to your little home.use espresso machines, buy a 1 bag Lorring. But to me kid, youll always be a loser and a faggot

[Anonymous No.17128257]

>>17127840
my girlfriend bought me one of these for christmas and I reallly like it, filtered coffee just tastes smoother and better

[Anonymous No.17128260]

>>17112221
youre literally not supposed to wash it at all, italian urban legend

[Anonymous No.17128499]

>>17128260
>thanksgiving or some shit
>find my moka pot by the sink
>its completely clean with scouring pad scratches in the collection chamber

God dammit

[Anonymous No.17128508]

>>17128163
>mark my fucking words

I hate to be the guy but "macchiato my fucking words"

[Anonymous No.17128525]

>>17128499
kill your family

[Anonymous No.17128569]

>>17128508
you beautiful little faggot that's fucking brilliant

[Anonymous No.17128695]

>>17127545
It's been good so far. Haven't found anything to complain about yet.

[Anonymous No.17128879]

>>17128070
Fucking lol

[Anonymous No.17129017]

>>17128525
I'm not really liking this disparaging talk of that guy's family. Pretty uncool. Families get shit on enough merely for existing now.

[Anonymous No.17129076]

>>17129017
oh my fucking god give it a fucking rest take your meds

[Anonymous No.17129098]

>>17129076
Doctornon can you diagnose this man's ass? It seems to be stinging, inside and out.

[Anonymous No.17129119]

>>17129017
>autism, narcissistic personality disorder

>>17129076
>major depression, anxiety disorder

>>17129098
>unwarranted self-importance

>t. clinical psychiatrist (resident)

[Anonymous No.17129161]

>>17126551
glass grind holder and the flimsy-looking plastic lid on top are weird to have at that price. You don't have many alternatives to it though and the kinu seems to be way more expensive.
it's probably still a very good grinder, and you should get it

[Anonymous No.17129168]

>>17129161
oh also probably overkill for a french press

[Anonymous No.17129336]

>>17129119
>bitches about noncoffee posts
>has yet to post coffee
Happens every time. Contribute or fuck off.

[Anonymous No.17129489]

>taste espresso
>sharp, savory, acidic bite, bursting with flavor and sweetness
>wow I can't believe I just made that, I can't believe that's espresso
>stir like hoffman says
>its sour as fuck and underextracted, you just tasted the good part on top of the coffee thats halfway in the extraction

Espresso is a lie

[Anonymous No.17129560]

>>17129336

[Anonymous No.17129606]

>>17129560
>has yet to post coffee

[Anonymous No.17129831]

What the best website to order coffee in europe. The city I just moved in doesn't have good roaster apparently

[Anonymous No.17129855]

>>17129831
I've had great coffee from thebarn.de. Standart sent out a sample with their fall issue.

[Anonymous No.17131173]

Coffee with cream is better than black coffee.

[Anonymous No.17131224]

I fucking hate the direction /ctg/ is headed. This place was fun and had great inspiration for coffee, just as little as 3 months ago. What happened? The /ctg/ comments are sarcastic at best and cancer at worst. Any efforts at actual discussion immediately just turn into shitposting and memeing, generally pulled off by only 2-3 dedicated schizoid trolls. Genuine questions for help are met with shill comments “Just buy this thing like I have because it’s all I could afford, then you’ll have better coffee like mine” etc. are there mods that come into this thread? I find it hard to believe this thread is only run by 3-5 people that constantly shit up the place and for no good reason other than “le epic lulz”. Is there any way to request that off topic retarded comments and trolls could be banned or just deleted?

[Anonymous No.17131231]

>>17131173
Racist

[Anonymous No.17131245]

>>17131224
Contribute or shut the fuck up.

There's plenty of useful discussion, it just happens infrequently because it's a slow board/thread so there's a lot of downtime between the genuine questions and discussions. In that downtime people poke fun at each other and shitpost a bit because

IT'S FUCKING 4CHAN YOU THIN-SKINNED RETARDED NEWFAGS

Maybe if all you butthurt fucking tumblrites would stop shitting up the thread with dumbass meta criticisms and just actually fucking contribute there'd be more discussion you dumb fucking faggot. If you want to bitch about the state of the board go to fucking /b/ or /s4s/ or wherever the fuck people give a shit.

[Anonymous No.17131252]

>>17131245

Murk loar, kiddo

[Anonymous No.17131256]

Considering picking up a moka pot in the near future because I've never used one and I'm interested in trying it out, curious if anyone who's used both the aluminum and stainless versions has any opinions on the pros/cons for each?

I'm not concerned with aluminum leeching autism, but I do worry that brewing acidic coffee in an aluminum vessel will let to corrosion over time, and I assume stainless wouldn't really have that issue. Are the stainless ones dishwasher safe? I can't think of any reason they wouldn't be unless you got one of the wood handled versions, if they are that would be a big plus for my lazy ass.

[Anonymous No.17131265]

Next fucking meta complaint better come with some oc coof.

[Anonymous No.17131285]

>>17131265
Sorry anon coof rates are declining cause of the jab

[Anonymous No.17131479]

>>17131256
no comment on alluminum vs stainless but traditionally you don't wash the alluminum ones so there's a layer of oil that prevents alluminum from leeching into your coffee and damage to the alluminum. I only used it for a couple of years but the oil never went rancid or anything.

>it just happens infrequently because it's a slow board/thread so there's a lot of downtime between the genuine questions and discussions.

There's a lot of downtime because people can't stay around your smell too long

[Anonymous No.17131522]

>>17131479
>drinks from a dirty piece of aluminum for years
>gives bad advice
>/ctg2021/

[Anonymous No.17131538]

>>17131479
I'm not interested in drinking coffee made in an unwashed pot, and I'm not autistic enough to think that brewing coffee in an aluminum vessel carries any significant health risk compared to using any other piece of aluminum cookware like baking sheets.

I'm pretty much just concerned with ease of use/cleaning, and if there's any significant impact on the quality of the end product from either type. The only reason I can think of why a stainless version might have issues compared to aluminum is because of stainless potentially not heating as evenly as an aluminum one, which could maybe cause issues with the brewing process and affect the flavor of the end product. If that's not really a concern then I can't think of a single reason not to get stainless over the aluminum one outside of cost which isn't an issue for me.

[Anonymous No.17131567]

>>17131538
>an aluminum vessel carries any significant health risk
As long as you're not carving out aluminum it s h o u l d be fine but why risk it?
> The only reason I can think of why a stainless version might have issues compared to aluminum is because of stainless potentially not heating as evenly as an aluminum one
You'll be fine. Depending on the gauge of material the steel might heat slightly slower but you should be filling your pot with near boiling water anyway.

[Anonymous No.17131587]

>>17131567
>You'll be fine. Depending on the gauge of material the steel might heat slightly slower but you should be filling your pot with near boiling water anyway.
I figured this was probably the case but I never see people talking about the stainless ones and the aluminum ones seem to be way more prevalent everywhere I look, so I didn't know if there was some reason for it outside of "they're cheaper and it's the original version everyone knows".

I'll probably end up going the stainless route, just seems like less hassle overall and more likely to last.

[Anonymous No.17131637]

>>17131587
>but I never see people talking about the stainless ones and the aluminum ones
The only people who discuss moka pots are poor mediterranians and fat american yurophiles who buy the first cheapest result off amazon. This brand is using 18-10 and apparently hasn't shifted production to china yet. A couple threads ago I found another italian made stainless brand called topmoka but I couldn't find an order page. Do your googles, don't end up using dirty cheap shit like the first guy who responded.

https://www.creativecookware.com/Vev-Vigano-b51/

[Anonymous No.17131682]

>>17131522
I only drank from dirty aluminum, I never gave advice, only facts

[Anonymous No.17131713]

>>17131682
Its coated aluminum retard. The reason you're not supposed to SCRUB them(you can still CLEAN ) is to avoid flaking this coating off. You're not trying to build a rancid oil seasoning on top of it...

[Anonymous No.17131726]

>>17131637
>yurophile
>buy this other pot also made in Italy instead

[Anonymous No.17131741]

>>17131713
Source? Not calling you a liar but I've never seen any reference to any kind of coating on the aluminum models

[Anonymous No.17131742]

>>17131713
I rinsed it, what is the point of your post? Reply to the guy who thinks coffee oil will hurt you and lower your social status on 4chan

[Anonymous No.17131763]

>>17131522
I too clean my cast iron pan of oil

[Anonymous No.17131778]

>>17131741
If that's what he meant he's wrong anyway because it's a claim about my pot. I had a bialetti brikka

[Anonymous No.17131781]

>>17131763
You should retard, if your skillet is a greasy piece of shit so are you.

Reminder that seasoning does not wash off with soap.

[Anonymous No.17131802]

>>17131781
I'm not being sarcastic, I scrape some rust on my food to finish just like you brother

[Anonymous No.17131822]

>>17131781
So is oil dirt or seasoning

[Anonymous No.17131831]

>>17131726
Apparently I'm not allowed to call people faggots without catching flak so I decided to help out with a link.
>also made in Italy instead
Bialetti closed their italian factory and outsourced to eastern yurop who are likely outsourcing to china. They would be out of business if the italian govt didn't subsidize them.
https://youngandfoodish.com/closing-of-bialettis-moka-pot-factory-a-bitter-cup-to-swallow/
>>17131741
New mokas don't oxidize until the coating is scrubbed off. That's why they arrive shiny. After a few uses and sitting in your cabinet it starts to cloud. Buy a cheap aluminium frypan from a restaurant supply and scrub the piss out of half of it and observe.
>>17131742
>I rinsed it
>the oil never went rancid or anything

[Anonymous No.17131848]

>>17131822
Rancid oil=/=polymerized fats.

[Anonymous No.17131859]

>>17131831
So how is it yurophile to buy a pot made in China, yet not when you buy made it Italy. You're not allowed to contradict yourself

[Anonymous No.17131860]

Ayo cunts, just ran out of coffee gonna run to the supermarket and buy a new bag. Any sugguestions?

[Anonymous No.17131865]

>>17131822
Oil is oil, are you retarded?

[Anonymous No.17131875]

>>17131831
>I rinsed it
>the oil never went rancid or anything

And?

>>17131848
Right, glad to see you corrected your mistake

[Anonymous No.17131881]

>>17131865
Tell him that, I'm pointing out the double standard

[Anonymous No.17131892]

>>17131881
Given endless resources and a crack team of cryptologists I don't think I could find your point in 10 years.

Either post a complete thought on what you think you're saying or fuck off.

[Anonymous No.17131911]

>>17131892
>oh no I've been found out let me feign ignorance

[Anonymous No.17131912]

>>17131859
Because I don't own or use a fucking mokapot? Just helping out a fellow /ctg/er since theres been a lot of bitching here lately.
>>17131875
Leaving rancid oil on a mokapot is not polymerizing it. Its leaving spoiling oil on a surface and drinking it in the morning. You're not deliberately applying oil and heat to change the composition and bake on layers.
https://pubs.acs.org/doi/10.1021/cr60232a001

[Anonymous No.17131924]

>>17131911
Contribute or SHUT THE FUCK UP

[Anonymous No.17131929]

>>17131912
It's not rancid, you were told this. Playing pretend is not an argument

[Anonymous No.17131934]

>>17131924
This is all you can say when you've lost an argument lmao. Stop spamming the general

[Anonymous No.17131951]

>>17131912
Coffee oil also isn't neutral, and will contain suspended material that would burn and produce off flavors even if you did try to cook it on like seasoning a cast iron.

[Anonymous No.17131955]

>>17131912
You were helping an anon and making a stupid self contradicting point. Get over it and don't die on every hill next time

[Anonymous No.17131965]

>>17131934
And I don't see you contributing anything to this thread. So STFU

[Anonymous No.17131976]

>>17131951
So this has nothing to do with moka pots, nice point

[Anonymous No.17131981]

>>17131965
>no its not all I can say
>says it again

[Anonymous No.17131990]

Anybody here ever used a percolator?

[Anonymous No.17131993]

>>17131955
And you're not contributing to this thread. Happens every time. Contribute or fuck off.

[Anonymous No.17132059]

>>17131929
>>17131951
Coffee oil starts to spoil ~4hrs after brewing. Its going rancid. Clean your equipment.
>>17131955
Telling a dumb american potential sinophile to avoid buying fake yixing pottery and giving a link isn't contradictory. I sense you're the exact archetype I mentioned.

[Anonymous No.17132069]

dose anyone know how to clean and electric mokka pot?

[Anonymous No.17132100]

NEW THREAD:
>>17132092
>>17132092
>>17132092
>>17132092

[Anonymous No.17132985]

>>17112221
Italians don't wash it with soap, only water. When you make coffee you put it either on the fire or on a heating source, so it gets sterilised, no bacteria survives.