Cooking Truths That Upset Others

[Anonymous No.17100870]

ITT: Post /ck/ wisdoms nobody wants to admit are true
Vanilla extract (or worse scraped vanilla bean pods) is so fragile in presence of heat that it's a waste of money to use in baked goods over imitation stuff.
https://www.seriouseats.com/taste-test-is-better-vanilla-extract-worth-the-price

[Anonymous No.17100878]

>>17100870
pre-ground spice mix (chili seasoning, taco seasoning) is completely acceptable for home cooking and is the same as the separate bottled pre-ground spices on your racks.

[Anonymous No.17100892]

frozen veg > fresh veg

[Anonymous No.17100899]

>>17100892
from a supermarket, yes
from a farm, no

[Anonymous No.17100913]

>>17100892
No that's not right. That's true sometimes, but not unanimously.

[Anonymous No.17100925]

>>17100899
where do you think frozen vegetables come from, outer space?
>>17100913
see nobody wants to admit

[Anonymous No.17100930]

I've never used a whole bean because they're so expensive so I can't speak to that but imitation extract tastes worse that real extract in everything I've made (cold or hot) so I don't agree with the seriouseats taste testers conclusions. probably varies a lot by brand.

Here's one: Avocados aren't especially good for you. If you like them it's because they're fatty. They are not helping you "be healthy".

[Anonymous No.17100933]

>>17100925
industrial farmed =/ local produce
local, fresh produce is much better than frozen supermarket veg, but frozen supermarket veg is better than fresh supermarket veg.

[Anonymous No.17100938]

>>17100925
not that anon but I like crisp vegetables and freezing breaks down the cells too much for a lot of vegetables.

[Anonymous No.17100939]

>>17100892
problem is freezing busts cell walls and the end product is gonna be all leaky. for smaller items with less water content like peas and corn its no big deal but you're gonna have a problem with broccoli. BUT if you're putting it in a stew/curry it might not matter I think

[Anonymous No.17100953]

>>17100870
Try vanilla paste. You will never use extract again.

[Anonymous No.17100964]

>>17100933
How big can a farm get before it suddenly becomes “industrial”?

[Anonymous No.17100972]

>>17100964
anything bigger than your backyard garden

[Anonymous No.17100981]

>>17100930
>imitation extract tastes worse that real extract in everything I've made
I don’t notice a difference in baked goods, only cold things. Like real extract is much better when I’m making whipped cream or frosting or other sort of cold topping.
But I use the real stuff in baked/cooked things anyway since I’m not going to bother keeping both real and imitation extract on hand.

[Anonymous No.17100988]

>>17100964
see
>>17100972
Once the farm's nutrient supplies and care is mostly automated. A human touch and careful attention results in better crops due to not having to manage as many.

[Anonymous No.17101003]

>>17100988
let me just go check every individual pea in this 300 acre field bro

[Anonymous No.17101005]

>>17100972
>have backyard garden
>neighbor also has backyard garden
>we exchange vegetables
>collective farm is now 2 backyards large
>instantly becomes inedible industrial strength vegetables
>can no longer be legally considered organic
>monsanto sues us for thinking about GMO's
>my entire family dies of cancer from drinking too much pesticides
>all my plamts magically turn into corn for making corn syrup
>die in a harvester accident harvesting my 100 sq foot industrial farm

[Anonymous No.17101015]

>>17101003
yeah that's what I'm saying, it is impractical for a farmer to individually manage their crops so they produce lower quality veggies compared to small gardens and farms where the farmer/farmers can individually care of the plants.
>>17101005
kek

[Anonymous No.17101024]

>>17101015
there's no such thing as a "small" farm
if it's a farm it's big by definition

[Anonymous No.17101030]

>>17101024
large garden then if you will, point still stands

[Anonymous No.17101044]

>>17100870
instant is as good or better than any other coffee.
food does not go bad just because a date on it has gone by.
frozen corn is fresher than "fresh" corn.
no tomato you buy in a store is ripe.
there is no food in a grocery store that is paleo.
bugs and crustaceans are not the same.
industrial farmed pig can be eaten medium rare.
triple distilled or more equals no hangover.

[Anonymous No.17101045]

>>17101005

[Anonymous No.17101080]

>>17101005
>industrial strength vegetables

[Anonymous No.17101088]

>>17101044
>instant is as good or better than any other coffee.

[Anonymous No.17101094]

>>17101044
>triple distilled or more equals no hangover.
you got me. I'm not going to research this for even one second and I refuse to believe it.

[Anonymous No.17101631]

>>17101094
He's exaggerating but there is a difference. It's caused by all those other kinds of alcohols that get produced by fermentation in trace amounts that are just straight poison and don't cause drunkenness. Like if you just a shot of methanol you wouldn't get drunk but you would get sick. So the less of that there is in your spirits, the drunker you can get without feeling sick.

[Anonymous No.17102641]

>>17101094
when I stopped drinking whiskey and started drinking triple distilled patron or even better titos hand made vodka (distilled 6 times).

I found I no longer got hangovers. no matter how much I drank.

[Anonymous No.17102680]

>>17101631
no I am not exaggerating

[Anonymous No.17102765]

>>17100870
MSG is a crutch for bad cooks

[Anonymous No.17102877]

>>17100939
Not a problem, the free pass to skip cooking it
>thaw broccoli
>make a sauce that's a bit too viscous
>squeeze broccoli a bit to collect most of the water
>cut broccoli into pieces
>mix water and pieces with the still hot sauce
Gets you raw, extremely green broccoli that's the perfect temperature and consistency. Also it cools the sauce down to be ready to eat at once.

[Anonymous No.17103637]

>>17101005
KEK

[Anonymous No.17103644]

Cream really doesn't go in carbonara

Tomatoes really don't go in gumbo

Beans really don't go in chili

Etc

[Anonymous No.17103650]

>>17100964
The problem is more distance from the store than scale of the operation

[Anonymous No.17103661]

>>17101088
She's so fucking hot

[Anonymous No.17103682]

>>17100878
this is inherently true, but I tend to like more pepper/types of pepper in my taco mix. fucking based post.

[Anonymous No.17104100]

>>17102765
Wow, it's like a home cook's shallow rationalization of a suburban housewife's revulsion towards Chinese takeout.

[Anonymous No.17104526]

>>17100870
Wops are no kind of people to learn from when it comes to food. They're hidebound traditionalist fanatics who mindlessly pass down recipes and spit on any innovation, unless they like it, in which case they act like it was always around, like carbonara.

[Anonymous No.17104542]

>>17103661
She looks like a really bad tranny, you gay

[Anonymous No.17104546]

>>17101044
lmao

[Anonymous No.17104555]

>>17102765
So are any other spices. A good cook should only make plain food and have it taste mind blowing.

[Anonymous No.17104561]

>>17104555

based as fuck. this guy cooks.

[Anonymous No.17104656]

>>17104555
No salt
No spice
Plain flour only
Final Destination

[Anonymous No.17104757]

>>17100878
true, but arnt whole spices cheaper?

[Anonymous No.17104759]

>>17100878
While this is true i still prefer making own spice blends and experiment with those. I weigh them with a drug scale and write them down. So i can adopt them if something was too strong/weak or not fitting at all in flavour.

[Anonymous No.17104780]

i use vanilla mainly in non baked goods what's your point?

[Anonymous No.17104790]

>>17104759
made my own taco seasoning with homemade onion powder and toasted spices, so fucking worth it

[Anonymous No.17104893]

Serious Eats and America's Test Kitchen aren't the resources you want them to be. Good cooking is a combination of both technique and taste, and you can't focus solely on technique. People can be superstitious about food, they have things they do that they saw a family member do, and there's value in that. That said, they're excellent resources for technique and well worth reading. For something that does both, look at Salt, Fat, Acid, Heat.

Chef John is for tastelets. People only like him because he makes videos.

[Anonymous No.17104935]

>>17100939
You're right. Frozen veggies are for soups because they comee out watery while fresh are for frying

[Anonymous No.17104947]

searing steaks is useless and too messy, I just boil them and use my preferred sauce

[Anonymous No.17104948]

>>17104935
frozen work really well in rice dishes too

[Anonymous No.17104956]

>>17100870
There is such a thing as too much cheese and too much garlic.

[Anonymous No.17104965]

>>17104526
No.

What Italians object to is people calling their "take and twist" on things by the traditional name.

Do you want to put garlic and cream in your egg yolk and pork pasta? Great, just don't call it carbonara. That's all.

It's like me boiling a piece of brisket and calling it Texas BBQ.

[Anonymous No.17105013]

>>17104965
its nothing like that at all, redditspacer
bbq is a technique not a thing, and texas is just a place where absolute retards live
you can add anything you want to carbonara and it will still be carbonara, just like you can put anything in the dry rub and it will still be bbq

[Anonymous No.17105024]

>>17100930
Imitation vanilla extract is the same compound that occurs in vanilla but it's just extracted from a different plant.

[Anonymous No.17105042]

>>17104965
its still an egg sauce ya nonce

[Anonymous No.17105182]

>>17100870
Chicken stock tastes better than beef stock in all recipes.

[Anonymous No.17105185]

>>17100892
Fake and gay.

[Anonymous No.17105189]

Farm fresh produce is crap compared to the produce you find in a supermarket. Both in taste and value.


Only people who say otherwise are retarded faggots in denial.

[Anonymous No.17105192]

>>17105189
So what you're saying is you've never eaten a tomato? Don't get me wrong I agree with you on most produce, but you sound like an idiot to include tomatoes in that.

[Anonymous No.17105198]

>>17100892
>>17101044
>>17104526
>>17105182
Literally brain dead retards

[Anonymous No.17105200]

>>17105182
And both are worse than veal fond.

[Anonymous No.17105212]

>>17105200
Veal stock is the gayest meme ever.
You absolutely wouldnt be able to tell the difference between scratch beef and veal stock.

Stop endorsing veal. Let that gay meme die.

[Anonymous No.17105218]

>>17105013
>you can add anything you want to carbonara and it will still be carbonara

[Anonymous No.17105230]

>>17105212
Are you retareded? Veal has a much more subtile and fine flavour.

[Anonymous No.17105235]

>>17105230
>retareded

[Anonymous No.17105239]

>>17100870
Fresh hydroponic tomatoes are the same as canned tomatoes. They don't close the canning factory for 9 months after harvest, they just can out of season hydroponics. Also, they don't even bother canning seasonal tomatoes anymore because it's not cost efficient. Any good soil-grown tomatoes are either sold in season or become premium brand canned tomatoes.

[Anonymous No.17105245]

>>17105230
It literally does not.

[Anonymous No.17105262]

>>17100892
true.

>>17100939
not the case with frozen vegetables because they are flash frozen which solves the problem of cellular damage from ice crystals. packaged frozen vegetables are fresher than "fresh" vegetables. same goes for frozen seafood and meat. freezing the food yourself in your own freezer, however, does fuck up the cell walls because home freezers are not cold enough to do flash freezing.

[Anonymous No.17105266]

>>17105182
Yup. Most beef stocks are somewhat artificially flavored with "beef flavor" or yeast extract.

[Anonymous No.17105278]

>>17100878
True but misses the point.

Chili will never be as good using any kind of preground spices as it would be if you started with whole dried peppers, toasted and soaked and make chili padlste.

[Anonymous No.17105293]

People only say chicken breast has no flavor because they always overcook it until it's dry.

Milk tastes good.

[Anonymous No.17105307]

Canned tomatoes are disgusting and relying on canned foods is unnatural. Just eat what's in season.

[Anonymous No.17105330]

>>17105307
Growing food is unnatural, just pick up whatever you find and eat it

[Anonymous No.17105398]

>>17105330
>Growing food is unnatural
Literally not.

[Anonymous No.17105448]

>>17105398
if agriculture is natural, then so is canning.

[Anonymous No.17105457]

>>17105013
Of course, that's why if I put bacon, lettuce, and tomato between two slices of bread and serve it in a casserole dish, it's a casserole, not a BLT sandwich.
That was sarcasm by the way. Normally I wouldn't feel the need to point something like that out, but you are obviously a retard.

[Anonymous No.17105461]

>>17105398
Literally is, monkeys aren't planting taters. The ones that did became humans and then those humans started canning sauerkraut because humans are based

[Anonymous No.17105464]

>>17105330
Picking up whatever you find is unnatural, just lay down like a log outside and if nature intends for you to live, food will fall into it from somewhere. Or bird poop.

[Anonymous No.17105482]

>>17105464
Nah, shit that animals do natural by definition and they pick up berries and eat them, they don't plant them though. And yes that definition makes gay pedo rape natural too, weird but that's nature for you

[Anonymous No.17105486]

>>17105482
we are part of nature too

[Anonymous No.17105506]

>>17105486
You shut your whore mouth. Humans are beyond nature, we were created by God which instantly grants us a higher status. That's why everything we do is unnatural, as it's divine.

[Anonymous No.17105514]

>Tex-Mex is superior to mexican food
>flour tortillas are the best
>deep dish pizza is pizza
>beans go in chili
>A1 pairs well with steak
>people only say they like sushi because of peer pressure
>American style Chinese food is superior
>german knives are better than japanese
>vinegar based hot sauces are delicious
>McDonalds is popular world wild because it provides inexpensive quality food that tastes good
>keto works and is healthy
>cheap spices are cheap because they are full of cellulose
>french food is overrated
>soul food is just food from other cultures black Americans culturally appropriated as their own

[Anonymous No.17105524]

>>17105506
everything we do being unnatural is no different from everything we do being natural. the only people who care about the distinction are those trying to draw a line between some things we do and some others on the basis of "what's natural"

[Anonymous No.17105526]

Oversteeped tea can be salvaged with a few spoons of sugar. Also sweetened water > energy bars.

[Anonymous No.17105531]

>>17105506
I kneel (before God)

[Anonymous No.17105612]

>>17105239
Someone has never been to the Central Valley...

[Anonymous No.17105613]

>>17100870

Well-done steak is perfectly fine and can taste even better than medium-rare.

[Anonymous No.17105620]

>>17105613
J-Jesus?

[Anonymous No.17105647]

>>17102641
>>17102680
I don't see why you wouldn't still get a headache from being dehydrated at the very least

[Anonymous No.17105655]

>>17104893
I use serious eats to suppliment only you fucking zigger.

[Anonymous No.17105668]

>>17105506
You are objectively wrong because god also created nature, which grants it high status, which makes it also unnatural and divine.
checkmate thiestfaggot

[Anonymous No.17105707]

>>17105514
>deep dish pizza is pizza
>people only say they like sushi because of peer pressure
>American style Chinese food is superior
>vinegar based hot sauces are delicious
>McDonalds is popular world wild because it provides inexpensive quality food that tastes good
>cheap spices are cheap because they are full of cellulose
>soul food is just food from other cultures black Americans culturally appropriated as their own
Anon, this is a place to post uncomfortable facts, not lies to garner (you)s.

[Anonymous No.17105725]

>>17100870
Being a picky eater is quite pitiful.

[Anonymous No.17105787]

>>17105707
>vinegar based hot sauces are delicious
this one's fine. hot sauce is good.
I'm not that into hot sauce but aren't most of them vinegar based?

[Anonymous No.17105889]

>>17105293
>People only say chicken breast has no flavor because they always overcook it until it's dry.
They say it has no flavor compared to thighs, which is correct. I mean it obviously tastes like chicken but it's very bland compared to the thigh.

[Anonymous No.17105897]

>>17105725
This, I treasure my unsophisticated pallete that enjoys the garbage that I cook. Also knowing how to spell palete is pointless

[Anonymous No.17106028]

>>17105024
Sure, but vanilla isn't just vanillin.

[Anonymous No.17106034]

>>17105461
What is "unnatural" about that process?

[Anonymous No.17106063]

>>17100870
Lads; What's the best alternative oil to olive oil?

[Anonymous No.17106104]

>>17106063
coconut

[Anonymous No.17106108]

Deep dish is not pizza, it's a pie.
I mean, just look at it. Google Chicago deep dish and take a looksie with your mongoloid eyes. Then google pies and do the same.
Also, your pizza wars are dumb as shit considering one isn't even pizza at all. May as well throw in cheeseburgers and chilidogs in there too at that rate.

[Anonymous No.17106119]

>>17106063
Peanut oil.

[Anonymous No.17106131]

>>17105668
>[1:26] Then God said, "Let us make humankind in our image, according to our likeness; and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the birds of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the wild animals of the earth, and over every creeping thing that creeps upon the earth."
Try again athiestfag

[Anonymous No.17106403]

>>17105482
Squirrels and birds plant seeds and nuts all the time though.

[Anonymous No.17106440]

>>17100964
industrial would be any farm that introduces division of labor into its structure, the basic element of this being the separation of livestock and crop production (both were unified until very recently)

[Anonymous No.17106476]

>>17105725
I’m not going to waste calories on eating sloppa. That’s how you get fat.

[Anonymous No.17106490]

>>17106476
Every picky eater that I know IRL is a fat fuck. They eat like 6 different things and it's all junk food.

[Anonymous No.17106497]

>>17106490
Every fat fuck “picky eater” I know will complain about the food but still finish the plate. Most people I know at a healthy weight just won’t eat it if they don’t like it.

[Anonymous No.17106502]

>>17106476
Being a picky eater is quite shameful, specially if you're a male. Imagine having a set of hairy balls and saying to people that you don't eat raw tomatoes or you don't like onions in your food or something like that.

[Anonymous No.17106506]

>>17106108
>has crust
>has cheese
>has tomato sauce
>has toppings commonly found on pizza
>commonly referred to as pizza
>found in the pizza section of the grocery store
I apologize, I didn't realize the Ministry of What's a Real Pizza is staffed by people permanently blinded by the interior membrane of their own colon.

[Anonymous No.17106508]

>>17106497
The ones I know literally will not eat anything else besides chicken nuggets, burgers, ice cream, and shit like potato chips because that's what they demanded as children so that's what they were fed for their entire life until they grew up. Now as adults, they refuse to eat anything else even though they've never even tried it in most cases.

[Anonymous No.17106516]

>>17106502
>you will eat the bug
No.

[Anonymous No.17106520]

>>17106516
Bugs aren't food for people.

[Anonymous No.17106529]

>>17106034
If animals aren't doing it, it's not natural. Don't play semantic games with me faggotini.

[Anonymous No.17106535]

>>17104555
lol that’s fine for something like venison but imagine thinking you can make something like chicken tasty without some kind of seasoning.

[Anonymous No.17106565]

>>17100892
All vegetables are disgusting. I eat them, but only because it's the easiest way to get certain nutrients.
>nooooo, you just have to prepare them right
You're cooking them in butter and it's the butter that tastes delicious

[Anonymous No.17106572]

>>17101088
If you add cream and sugar to your coffee the difference is negligible

[Anonymous No.17106647]

Leaving your meat on the counter for 10 minutes does not get it to room temperature.

[Anonymous No.17106663]

>>17105398
congratulations smoothbrain, now you understand he was making fun of you

[Anonymous No.17106681]

>>17105262
>not the case with frozen vegetables because they are flash frozen which solves the problem of cellular damage from ice crystals.
It reduces the problem, it doesnt solve it.
>packaged frozen vegetables are fresher than "fresh" vegetables.
So what you are saying is I should set up a cleaning, freezing and packaging plant in the 30 yards between my veg beds and my kitchen door?

[Anonymous No.17106684]

>>17105198
Any guns in the produce drawers?

[Anonymous No.17106687]

>>17106663
Thank you :3

[Anonymous No.17106708]

>>17100930
Fat is good for you

[Anonymous No.17106984]

>>17106506
All those criteria, and yet somehow, still not pizza.

[Anonymous No.17107002]

Grilling on a backyard rig, while a fun and enjoyable hobby, is a complete waste of time and it embolden people who shouldn't be anywhere near food.

[Anonymous No.17107043]

>>17100870

Then don't bake it retard

[Anonymous No.17107052]

>>17105647
because I drink water...

[Anonymous No.17107065]

>>17104965
>just don't call it carbonara.

[Anonymous No.17107074]

>>17105230
>Veal has a much more subtile and fine flavour.
the same could be said for water over lemonade.

[Anonymous No.17107201]

>>17106984
It literally is tho says so on the box

[Anonymous No.17107229]

>>17106565
Man, this just made me sad. Imagine not liking roasted brussel sprouts. Not enjoying asparagus that has a little char on it from the grill. Thinking it's just the butter that makes diced green pepper and onion so good.

[Anonymous No.17107256]

>>17104965
>Italians delude themselves into thinking they can police a language they don't even use in day to day life
Why are you people like this? I don't tell you that the word 'footing' isn't a word you should use for jogging even when you do (https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/footing#Italian)), or that using the word 'smoking' to refer to a tuxedo is retarded (https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/smoking#Italian).). You willingly borrow from our language and pervert the meanings, so why do you get butthurt when we borrow from your language and pervert the meaning?

Maybe it's because you have no empire anymore and can't enforce your ideals of linguistic purity at the point of the bayonet, so you have to express the same Italian fieriness at getting angry at culinary terms on the internet?

[Anonymous No.17107285]

>>17107229
not the other guy, I have NEVER in my life had a vegetable that I ate and said "damn I want more of that". no matter how it's made or what it was served with. vegetables are filler only.

[Anonymous No.17107307]

>>17107285
This. They just don’t taste good.

[Anonymous No.17107319]

>>17107285
>>17107307

Wild tasteless run among us and actually exist. I can't imagine not wanting to kill yourself every day

[Anonymous No.17107359]

>>17106131
>hurrr I am wrong, therefore I will backpeddle and choose some other verse that doesn't support what I said at all.
dominion does not mean separation from nature, faggot. In fact, it's impossible to control something without being involved in it.

[Anonymous No.17107371]

>>17107319
It's bait. Pretending to be a tastelet/picky eater gives you guaranteed replies on /ck/.

[Anonymous No.17107566]

I don't know why cooking as a hobby is full of fucking idiots. Perhaps it's because it only takes some retard heating mac n cheese in the microwave to be considered a "home cook". Hearing you faggots talk about food is revolting. It took two posts before some dipshit decided to voice their opinion. I had a co-worker tell me his new pizza sauce recipe could rival any chef in the world. He believed it. You could tell. Then the faggot claimed the new cheetos mac n cheese is fire.

[Anonymous No.17107627]

Good food requires the eater to be a good taster. A lot of you think your own taste is objective and rate things accordingly. I am fully aware of my own preferences, but would never say something is bad if it doesn't fit them. Also, many of your parents failed you or are shit eaters themselves and you may die without exploring the culinary world. I would truly pity you all, but many of you are arrogant and adamant about what you supposedly like and don't like, so I stopped caring. It's why chef john is based and adam is cringe. John just fucking cooks and enjoys it while adam pretends to be a know-it-all and will now never do anything that doesn't fit his own internal logic. Too many of you dream about being right rather than being an actual good cook.

[Anonymous No.17107664]

>>17100870
brussel sprouts and kale are not tasty and never have been. i dont care how much the fancy restaurants push them on me they taste like ass
oh and cilantro and irish sodabread suck

[Anonymous No.17107697]

>>17106681
>It reduces the problem, it doesnt solve it.
correct, but
>"fresh" vegetables.
by this he clearly means non-frozen store bought vegetables. there are quotes around the "fresh" and everything
>So what you are saying is
no he's not and you know it. don't be disingenuous. it makes you look wrong even if you're not.
>30 yards between my veg beds and my kitchen door
it is obvious this was not what they intended.

do they make medication for autism?
if they do, you should take yours
i don't like agreeing with people who act like you

[Anonymous No.17107730]

>>17100938
absolutely retarded, ice crystals that damage cells come as a result of time and the size of the thing being frozen. the speed with which most frozen veggies are frozen at greatly reduce this. some damage happens, yes, but not enough to make it significantly more noticeable for most veggies. the reality is more that you're probably overcooking most of the veggies you eat.

[Anonymous No.17107759]

>>17101044
i hate you but this is all basically correct
>instant is as good or better than any other coffee.
except for this.
>food does not go bad just because a date on it has gone by.
motherfuckers also don't know the difference between use by and best by
>triple distilled or more equals no hangover.
based

>>17106572
this is a fair point. but if you don't, the difference is colossal. good coffee won't need cream and sugar

[Anonymous No.17107777]

>>17105198
>no meat/cheese drawer
>no meat/cheese drawer gun
what are you even doing, anon? try harder.

[Anonymous No.17107793]

>>17105506
this is why i only eat via the most unnatural means possible
by working a computer to have other computers control other humans into cooking food, then even more other humans into walking up to my third floor apartment to drop it off without even looking them in the eye
pure divinity, best possible way to hunt for food and survive

[Anonymous No.17107804]

>>17105198
based perfect center temp chad

[Anonymous No.17107828]

>>17105182
I've noticed this too.

[Anonymous No.17107850]

>>17105307
Your refrigerated food is unnatural. Eat it fresh from your garden or don't eat it at all.
Seasoning your food is unnatural. It didn't grow like that. Enjoy your hypertension caused by unnatural intake.
All processed food is unnatural. Even worse than canned foods. Eat what's in season.
Stop eating cooked food. It causes cancer even if you can't see the burnt parts.

[Anonymous No.17107897]

>>17105307
>unnatural
computers are unnatural
you're talking to people who aren't even there
typing is unnatural
text is unnatural
literacy is unnatural
go eat ferns

[Anonymous No.17108008]

>>17100930
shit like a champ when i eat Avocados, easily a healthier alternative for constipation than laxitives my dude.

[Anonymous No.17108057]

>>17106119
depends on what your cooking and smoke point.
high smoke point oil is for deep frying
low is for like sautes or salads.
lard
duck fat
ghee
avocado
grapeseed
peanut
are some good oils to use

[Anonymous No.17108132]

>>17105514
Yeah black people definitely appropriated literal West and Central African food along with natural Amerindian and European Influences that slowly became incorporated over 400 years. You’re a fucking dumbass haha

[Anonymous No.17108298]

>>17105514
America is superior

[Anonymous No.17108305]

Homemade stock is a waste of time.

[Anonymous No.17108378]

>>17105182
its also more convenient to make and goes with more stuff

[Anonymous No.17108380]

>>17108305
how so? takes <10 minutes active time and then you simmer it until done. how can something that takes no effort be a waste?

[Anonymous No.17108392]

>>17106529
humans are an animal dude

[Anonymous No.17108396]

>>17108132
Thanks Rabbi

[Anonymous No.17108398]

>>17108380
>he doesn't skim his stock

[Anonymous No.17108403]

>>17108398
>he thinks you actually need to skim stock

[Anonymous No.17108617]

>>17108132
Soul food is southern food, not "black" food.

Blacks ate the same shit poor rural whites ate in the south, and when blacks left the south in search of work after the civil war, they brought southern foods with them. When they opened up restaraunts catering to southern tastes in northern cities, the food became associated with blacks because the typical northern Jews, Italians, Germans, French, and Scandinavians had their own foods and style of cooking that differed from the southern styles.

Pork chops, fried chicken, ribs, ham-hocks, grits, black eyed peas, sweet potato, mash potatoes, biscuits n' gravy, collard greens, cornbread, mac n' cheese, are all staples of southern cuisine enjoyed by everyone, not just blacks.

Fuck off with your bullshit.

[Anonymous No.17108641]

>>17100892
Retard. I bet you only eat peas.

[Anonymous No.17108646]

>>17106063
For what use?

[SVL No.17108934]

>>17100870
Cooking delicious foods is often unhealthy because they contain added salt. Salt exists in lots of foods, but adding more salt increases flavour but makes the food unhealthy.

[Anonymous No.17108953]

>>17108934

Not answering your questions doesn't make them bots, anon. They're just ignoring you. You know, like your parents.

[Anonymous No.17109100]

>>17104542
Retard opinion

[Anonymous No.17109525]

>>17107664
Kale has always sucked. Brussel sprouts just need to be cooked properly.

Pan fry bacon in oil and place halfed brussel sprouts flat down. Fry until golden.

Ez.


I think brussel sprouts get a bad rap because too many boomer retards overcook them so they are bitter and gross.

[Anonymous No.17109633]

>>17107319
I cannot imagine being someone who has no sense of taste or smell. that your palette is so shit you actually think vegetables taste "good".

[Anonymous No.17109640]

>>17105506
So your original post is that relying on canned foods is unnatural, but is also divine, so better?
You christian larping retards can't even keep your views consistent

[Anonymous No.17109655]

>>17107319
if beets taste "earthy" instead of like dirt
and/or
brussel sprouts taste like anything other than rotten roadkill
and/or
broccoli smells and taste like anything other than an overused outhouse then you have no sense of taste or smell.

or have covid.

[Anonymous No.17109677]

>>17109633
What are you a child?

Grilled veggies, roast veggies, saute veggies are all delicious and complement the proteins you serve them with during the meal.

[Anonymous No.17109690]

>>17100878
There's nothing wrong with it but it's way cheaper to buy and mix yourself

That being said, I own about 30 packets of various McCormick spice packets

[Anonymous No.17109710]

>>17100878
Aye, I’m willing to make exceptions for spices that I can’t obtain easily otherwise, but let me be the first to tell you that pre ground and freshly ground garam masala is completely different from one another. Same with nutmeg, and peppercorns. >>17100892
If I want fishier tasting spinach for a dish sure, otherwise everything else is unpleasant from the cell wall destruction and everything becomes an overcooked mess.

[Anonymous No.17109743]

>>17100892
There are some frozen veggies that are just the same as fresh but there are no frozen veggies that are better than fresh

[Anonymous No.17110050]

>>17108646
Whatever Olive oil can be used for I guess, from frying to bread-making. Picked up some rice barley oil today, going to give that a bash.

[Anonymous No.17110345]

>>17109677
so you admit you have no sense of taste or smell.

[Anonymous No.17111353]

>>17105189
"Farm" produce is really just the same produce shipped to grocers but with prices hiked, farmers markets are scams

https://youtu.be/YYwB63YslbA

[Anonymous No.17111669]

>>17107285
I kinda wish this was real and not just bait, because I'd love to see the thread.

[Anonymous No.17111797]

>>17111669
why can you not believe that people do not like vegetables? and have never had any that were good?

[Anonymous No.17112419]

>>17106028
All the other trace compounds in vanilla beans are either volatile aromatics that get vaporized in the presence of heat or occur in such small quantities to be imperceptible to the human tongue or are flavorless. Whole extracts are memes: volatile compounds break down in exposure to ethanol. Use the whole bean fresh or don't use it at all.

[Anonymous No.17112425]

>>17111353
>trusts the news uncritically

[Anonymous No.17112432]

>>17112419
vanillin is a volatile compound brainiac

[Anonymous No.17112436]

>>17111797
It's just that far from normal peoples experiences. But there is a condition that makes vegetables and fruit taste extreme bitter to some people so maybe it's that.

[Anonymous No.17112444]

>>17108617
why would a redditor come to 4chink to argue with another redditor?

[Anonymous No.17112478]

>>17109655
Kek, those three are amongst my top 5 vegetables. They're sweet and delicious as long as they're not actually rotten or something else went terribly wrong. We just hit freezing temperatures so brussel sprouts will hit the stores any day now and I'm looking forward to it.

[Anonymous No.17112488]

>>17100870
Fall off the bone quite often means its overcooked

[Anonymous No.17112506]

All food is food. Food related pretentiousness is retarded and makes you a faggot.

[Anonymous No.17112539]

>>17109655
>veggies taste yucky
>no i don't have the palette of a child
>no you're just diseased or have no sense of taste

[Anonymous No.17112543]

LESS HEAT
most people are bad cooks because they use too much heat
heat is applied accordingly to the dish or style of cuisine

[Anonymous No.17112588]

>>17100870
Soy should be in 99% of your meals

[Anonymous No.17113160]

Watermelon is the Gachashit of the fruit world.
It can either be red, juicy, and sweet or watery, rind-y, and tasteless, but you'll never know until after you bought one and cut into it to find out
>Look for ones with a yellow patch on the bottom
>Knock on them and listen for a hollow sound
>Buy them at roadside stands or farmer's markets instead of the supermarket
NONE OF THAT NONSENSE WORKS NEARLY AS WELL AS THEY SAY IT DOES.
Waternelon is the closest thing to edible gambling in existence.

[Anonymous No.17113163]

>>17101044
>instant is as good or better than any other coffee.
LMFAO

[Anonymous No.17113192]

>>17106063
I personally use grapeseed oil instead. It does a fine job and still tastes good.

[Anonymous No.17113220]

>>17109525
Brussel sprouts are good as hell. Bitter or not I enjoy them so much.

[Anonymous No.17113398]

>>17100870
I really doubt that. I've baked stuff with and without vanilla. Too much and too littleand I could taste it or not. Too much vanilla is disgusting

[Anonymous No.17113956]

>>17100870
You aren't "passionate about cooking". You made terrible life choices, are stuck as a cook, and throw temper tantrums. Oh, and I'll keep on coming to your restaurant everyday and I will keep sending my food back if it's not perfect and there's nothing you can do about it, wagie.

[Anonymous No.17114067]

>>17110345
No, I admit I'm in an argument with a child.

Don't bother @me. We're done, kid.

[Anonymous No.17114071]

>>17112444
Cope.

[Anonymous No.17115258]

>>17113160
>Watermelon is the Gachashit of the fruit world.
kek

[Anonymous No.17116790]

>>17100870
Beans belong in chili
Eating rare steak is retarded and doesn't make you cool. Cook your food.
Onions are overrated

[Anonymous No.17116806]

food is good

[Anonymous No.17117085]

>>17100870
If we don't share the exact opinions, ur a faggot.

[Anonymous No.17117336]

>>17101044
>industrial farmed pig can be eaten medium rare.

[Anonymous No.17117378]

>>17100870
It's okay to fry food.

[Anonymous No.17117605]

>>17111353
Think the supermarkets may have funded this? We know (((they))) will do anything to expand market share by just a bit

[Anonymous No.17117636]

>>17105189
>>17111353
maybe in am*rica, here in EU markets are cheaper and produce is way better

[Anonymous No.17117650]

>>17105889
Nah, breasts have a more delicate taste but it tastes superior when done right. It's the texture and fattyness of the thighs that make them usually better, its' a very forgiving ingredient.

[Anonymous No.17117665]

>>17117336
It can even be eaten raw if your country has some standards.

[Anonymous No.17117671]

>>17100964
Over 100 Acres and uses Advanced Technology and lacks farm hands, but rather "Food Scientists, FDA Officials, Micro Caged Chickens, Unethical Farming Practices.

[Anonymous No.17117784]

>>17105514
>people only say they like sushi because of peer pressure
>McDonalds is popular world wild because it provides inexpensive quality food that tastes good

The only falsehoods in the post.

[Anonymous No.17118167]

Hot chocolate is just watery ganache!

[Anonymous No.17118341]

>>17100870
If you have a stove and a pot, a rice cooker is redundant.

>But muh precise cooking times!
Learn how to cook your rice, it's easy as fuck.

>But muh convenience!
It's already easy as fuck to cook rice.

[Anonymous No.17118370]

>>17106565
>>17107285
holy shit is this what its like being American?

[Anonymous No.17118380]

>>17100870
Salt is used to mask the flavor of your over or undercooked trash, and using "a pinch of salt" is key for "hiding that i'm a terrible cook

[Anonymous No.17118382]

Parsley is meaningless and adds nothing.

[Anonymous No.17118389]

>>17101044
>bugs and crustaceans are not the same
they're as much bugs as any other you fucking retard, they're just bugs that taste good so we eat them
I do not understand why this scares americans
>instant is as good or better than any other coffee
this must be a joke post

[Anonymous No.17118397]

>>17102765
t. bad cook

[Anonymous No.17118401]

>>17105013

[Anonymous No.17118433]

>>17101044
>instant cofee
Had stomach avid burns for years. Switched to freshly grinding my cofee beans and making coffee from the ground. No more stomach ouchies. Also Giga Red pill coming through
>1 up to 2 shots of red wine remove stomach acid burns momenteraly
i have been seeing 4 different doctors over that garbage. Not one with their wizardry could help me not even temporary relief. Tried some wine once ontop of my stomach problems one day. it actually worked. One shot (JDAM) Maybe 2 Shots (Nuke) and the stomach issue just dissapears AND you arent drunk so you can just whip that method out in your daily life if you need to

[Anonymous No.17118444]

>>17109655
>anon has eaten nothing but cheesy potatoes for 30 years

[Anonymous No.17118454]

Oil in pasta water is pointless and you're a fucking retard if you're using it.

[Anonymous No.17118775]

>>17112543
MORE HEAT
most people are bad cooks because they don't crisp their food properly, being scared little pussies about overcooking.

[Anonymous No.17118838]

>>17104956
Too much cheese yes, too much garlic no (unless we're talking, like, 3 whole bulbs worth unless the dish scale requires that much)

[Anonymous No.17119665]

>>17108392
Don't bother, he's an american. No point in trying to reason with them.

[Anonymous No.17119676]

>>17107201
Nah, those are pizza style hot pockets. Kinda like how chicago deep dish is a pizza style PIE.

[Anonymous No.17119699]

>>17107664
brussel sprouts are delicious, what are you, 12?

[Anonymous No.17119711]

>>17106565
You need to be 18+ to use this site.

I have a packet of greenbeans on my lap and I'm just eating them. Vegetables are god tier.

[Anonymous No.17119726]

>>17100870
for all the shit basketball americans talk 99% of their food looks like this

[Anonymous No.17119743]

>>17112588
No

[Anonymous No.17120522]

>>17118167
>Hot chocolate is just watery ganache!

[Anonymous No.17120571]

>>17119699
>>17119711
Hear me, and hear me well: I don't know what insignificant shithole you hail from, but I must lament the fact that it hasn't been carpetbombed enough to eradicate every trace of your verminous folk. You are a testament to the low character of your people, a blazing sign in this modern hellscape that advertises the absolutely deplorable nature of your backwoods no-name land. You aren't worthy of the bullets that would send you and your kind back to the abyss from whence you spawned. As for my political leanings, you are far from the mark. You have missed me by such a large margin, and it speaks volumes about how sorely you lack intuition of any sort. You will be forgotten at the moment of your passing. You have died.

[Anonymous No.17120719]

>>17100870
jarred garlic tastes exactly the same as fresh garlic. Saves me time and effort. Goml cooking scrubs

[Anonymous No.17121052]

>>17100892
Depends on what kind, and what for. Frozen carrots and peas I like more in soups, but most other things it's insane how much better the fresh versions are.

[Anonymous No.17121314]

>>17119726
>obey

[Anonymous No.17122597]

>>17100939
How about I burst your cell walls

[Anonymous No.17122720]

>>17100878
There is something wrong with overpaying for a spice mix that has literally 4 ingredients that are all cheaply found at the dollar store.

[Anonymous No.17122789]

>>17119726
this has to be a joke
im american and couldnt imagine anyone iknow eating this

[Anonymous No.17122793]

people use too much heat in general
thats why they suck at cooking at burn everything

[Anonymous No.17122964]

>>17100870
Mushrooms smell and taste like compost and 90% of the cooked mushrooms ingested in the world have the texture and consistency of leather

[Anonymous No.17123102]

>>17105486
This

[Anonymous No.17123125]

Corn is chicken feed, nothing more. From a culinary perspective it's utter garbage.

[Anonymous No.17123145]

>>17119726
>using a metal for with a non-stick pan

[Anonymous No.17123205]

>>17107664
>kale
Absolutely right, unnatural foulness that is better served to cattle or rabbits than men.
>brussel sprouts
If prepared wrong, the foulest thing imaginable without being rotten. If prepared right, delicious.
>cilantro
Fine, but inferior to it's seed; coriander
>irish sodabread
Have never had it, doesn't look abysmal on Google.

[Anonymous No.17123210]

>>17118167
I loathe you for being right.

[Anonymous No.17123492]

>>17100930
>he fell for the fat bad meme
This isn't the 1990's anymore

[Anonymous No.17124055]

>>17120571

[Anonymous No.17124232]

>>17106572
true I add creamer to my coffee so that's why I buy instant.

anon dabbing

[Anonymous No.17125080]

>>17105482
Shitting out seeds plants them, this si why fruits and vegetables have flavor which appeal to animals retars

[Anonymous No.17125126]

>>17100878
Bullshit. It's half salt.

[Anonymous No.17125135]

>>17117636
That's a Canadian show idiot

[Anonymous No.17125483]

You don't have to 'season' or 'only wipe' cast iron pans. I've never fucking seasoned it. you season the food not the pan. And I wash that shit with a sponge and dish soap after every use because that's what you fucking do with dirty dishes so you don't get really fucking sick. And guess what? All my cast-iron food comes out fucking splendid. Didn't realize until I bought this bad boy that so many of you are completely and TOTALLY fucking retarded. God Damn

[Anonymous No.17125517]

>>17100930
I used a whole bean exactly once in my life and it was for a crème brule. It was very expensive, but very worth it. The taste really is incredible. I also make a lot of money so it wasnt too big a drop in the bucket

[Anonymous No.17125536]

>>17100870
Fall off the bone quite often means it’s overcooked