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give ONE (1) just ONE (1) valid reason for not putting it inside my refrigerator

>> No.17036917

>>17036914
Because there are variants that are room temperature safe.

>> No.17036918

cold catsup on warm food is gross

>> No.17036948
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>>17036918
>Food is so hot that combined with the cold ketchup the food ends up at the perfect temperature

>> No.17036954

>>17036914
soy

>> No.17036955

>>17036914
It won't go bad

>> No.17036961

>>17036948
Or you could wait 60 seconds and not immediately feel the need to scarf your food down like a dog.

>> No.17037003

>>17036918
>catsup
is this some knockoff ketchup?

>> No.17037698

>>17037003
not him but catsup is actually the original spelling. also did you know that ketchup (or catsup) wasn't originally made from tomatoes? the more you know

>>17036955
on the packaging it says to store in the fridge after opening and recently I went to a cabin where someone had stored a bottle stored outside the fridge. I had bought a new bottle (of identical heinz) and was curious so I tasted them side by side and the difference was very noticable.

>> No.17038299

>>17036961
I like my food hot, unlike you, I don't eat from a trash can

>> No.17038305

>>17036918
The heat of the food cooks the ketchup

>> No.17038309

It's mostly vinegar, vinegar does not need to be refrigerated. How long do you think that's been bottled for before you bought it?

>> No.17038337

>>17038305
>t.chipotle food safety logician

>> No.17038350
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Do americans really not store ketchup in the refrigerator?

>> No.17038352

>>17036917
it's all room temperature safe to an extent. If you go through it like a diner does, and a bottle doesn't last more than a couple of days then by all means leave it sitting out. If you use one bottle over the span of a few months maybe refrigerate it.

>> No.17038357

>>17036914
For people besides yourself:
>Personal preference for temperature.
Which is also the ONE valid reason for putting it inside the fridge. Unless you have a guest over or share with someone else in your living space, whether or not you put it in the fridge needs no justification. Being subjective doesn't make it invalid in general.

Now for shelf-stable condiments in general, the only objective reasons I see for putting it in the fridge are:
1. Making it last longer if you do not use it enough to use it completely before its recommended shelf-life ends. "Shelf-stable" doesn't mean it lasts indefinitely, and self-stable items can still change in taste, color, etc. over time while still being edible. This happens to me with mayonnaise after about 3 months with the brand I like - just hardens and discolors with a slight change in taste, but still edible.
2. You have more room in the fridge than in ambient storage, and don't care about it being cold. This is the only reason I store opened mustard and pickled foods in the fridge.

>> No.17038360

>>17038309
There's a difference between a air-tight sealed container and an opened one.

>> No.17038374

>>17038357
>recommended shelf-life
The Heinz ketchup bottle I hold in my hand explicitly states it should be refridgerated after opening.

>> No.17038464

...it's time to put the ketch UP!

>> No.17038467

>>17036918
no one spells it like that, stop trying to be pretentious

>> No.17038546

>>17038374
Fair, that is the recommended self life from the manufacturer.
When I said recommended shelf life, I was alluding to the general consensus through online searching. But even if that reflects my experience (like regular mayo lasting ~3 months without issue), the manufacturer's recommendations naturally trump that.

From a liability and food-safety standpoint, there is no reason not to recommend refrigeration if the temperature difference doesn't affect the quality beyond temperature, so I can see why it would be included by default.
Checking my various opened shelf-stable products, the only liquids which don't recommend refrigeration are my chili paste (imported, no comment on refigeration), oils (which specifically advise not to refrigerate), and vinegars (no comment).

>> No.17038552

>>17036914
None. Cold ketchup literally tastes better.

>> No.17038575

>>17038552
Based

>> No.17038649

>>17038309
it's mostly tomato. and the tomato goes bad

>> No.17039915

>>17037698
>catsup is actually the original spelling
incorrect!
the original spelling was catch-up.
it was a sauce to last over 20 years.

>> No.17039922

>>17036914
>valid reason for not putting it inside my refrigerator
why would you put something in your fridge that's a useless condiment?

>> No.17040152

>>17039922
>useless condiment
>has the most uses of any condiment

>> No.17040202

>>17036914
I refrigerate because I like the contrast of cold ketchup with hot food.

>> No.17040270

>>17040152
>the most uses
>goes with fries
>goes with some meats
>that's it
jfc that's pathetic. at least mayonnaise can be used in salads

>> No.17040281

>>17036914
When ketchup gets cold it begins to ferment and will explode taking out your entire kitchen.

>> No.17040359

>>17036918
Opposite, it's very refreshing

>> No.17040365

>>17040270
>ketchup on meat
do Americans really?

>> No.17040368

>>17036914
Same reason I have eggs in my livingroom, none.