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Lard is healthier than butter and vegetable oil. Fight me faggots.
>No trans fat
>More monosaturated fat than butter (oleic acid, which decreases hard disease and lowers cholesterol; and palmitoleic acid, which helps with insulin sensitivity, cholesterol, and hemostasis)
>It's got a polyunsaturated fat--linoleic acid--which again, reduces cholesterol, fights insulin sensitivity, and blood pressure
>Double the omega 3s of butter (Most people in the west are deficient in this)
>Less saturated fat than butter, BUT saturated fat is actually inversely correlated with heart disease (French Paradox)
>Heathier than soy (vegetable) oil;, shortening
>Infact it's healthier than a lot of frying oils
>Lactose intolerant people can eat it
>As lard consumption declined, heart problems increased
Oh, and it makes everything fucking delicious.

>> No.16923807

>>16923799
Oh, but I do, anon. No argument here.

>> No.16923809

Fat like causes heart attacks and stuff.
The government told me and I do not want to be a flyover hick republican person so I believe what the government tells me.

>> No.16923818

>>16923809
>Implying that keto isn't most popular among coastal liberals

>> No.16923852

>>16923799
my local grocers stopped fucking carrying it, I have walk into walmart to buy it, unless I set up an order online.
I have a four pound bucket doing me some good now

>> No.16923870

>>16923799
i get mine at a bosnian pork store at 3 bucks a quart, it's a little expensive imo but it might be because they render their own. they have smoked duck fat too but i never got around to buying it, i could never find a use for it

>> No.16923903

>>16923799
i cook exclusivly with pork lard / beef tallow

>> No.16923917

lard notoriously has no flavor. it absolutely does not "make everything fucking delicious"

>> No.16923944

>>16923799
I have no clue where to buy it, but I just use butter. Pretty sure it just as healthy as long as you aren't using vegetable oils

>> No.16923972

Saturated fat and cholesterol cause heart disease. The French paradox is stupid and has been proven they were terrible at documenting deaths. Plus the fact you're willing to focus on just ONE outlier country in the entire world just proves you'll use any excuse to shove bacon down your throat.

>https://www.cochrane.org/CD011737/VASC_effect-cutting-down-saturated-fat-we-eat-our-risk-heart-disease
>The greater the decrease in saturated fat, and the more serum total cholesterol is reduced, the greater the protection from cardiovascular events.

>https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/16904539/
>Consumption of a saturated fat reduces the anti-inflammatory potential of HDL and impairs arterial endothelial function

>https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/10704618/
>these data suggest that addition of a moderate amount of dietary cholesterol to a reduced fat diet rich in polyunsaturated or saturated fatty acids increased the in vitro susceptibility of LDL to oxidation.

>https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/9001684/
> We conclude that eggs consumption, in addition to its hypercholesterolemic effect, increases plasma and LDL oxidizability, a phenomenon which was shown to enhance the progression of atherosclerosis. The atherogenic properties may contribute to the accelerated atherosclerosis prevalent in populations with high cholesterol intake.

>https://www.ahajournals.org/doi/pdf/10.1161/01.cir.0000103664.47406.49
>Although they had similar IVUS characteristics at baseline, patients with LDL cholesterol > 120mg/dL showed more annual plaque progression and lumen reduction than did patients with lower LDL cholesterol values.

>https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0735109717412320?via%3Dihub
>Many CVRF-free middle-aged individuals have atherosclerosis. LDL-C, even at levels currently considered normal

>> No.16923981

>>16923799
>monosaturated fat
Saturated fats are the type of fats that cause heart disease you lard-tard.
You're thinking of unsaturated fats

>> No.16923987

i cook with ghee
just easy to store and spread and still has butter flavor

>> No.16923988

Seems like a black people thing to do. Not that there’s anything wrong with that

>> No.16923996

>>16923972
Just from a pure physical standpoint, a molecule of saturated fat is more likely to pack into your arteries than a molecule of unsaturated fat.

>> No.16924050

>>16923972
WRONG. All "studies" that came to that conclusion were intentionally biased via the sugar lobby, or malformed in some other way by special interests, among many other errata: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hpOP_HKeazU

There is absolutely an inverse correlation between heart disease and fat consumption. People used to eat waaaaaaay more lard than us and heart disease was incredibly rare, until the 20th century, with a marked increase in GRAIN consumption! Fat in does not equal fat stored, learn nutrition.

>> No.16924055

>>16923981
Monosaturated fats are associated with REDUCED heart disease. You're thinking of POLYsaturated fats you fucking moron.

>> No.16924061

>>16923917
Incorrect. Pork lard has flavor and was the reason Wendy's and McDonald's fries are no longer delicious, like the 90s.

>> No.16924070

>>16923987
You cook with clarified butter anon. Speak English here.

>> No.16924074

>>16924055
Oleic acid in the fucking example OP used isn't a monosaturated fat, it's a monounsaturated fat.

>> No.16924081

>>16924055
monosaturated and polysaturated fats don't even exist, who's the real moron here?

>> No.16924091

>>16924074
>"Noooooo if someone misses 2 letters that makes them wrong"
Kill yourself.
>>16924081
Also this

>> No.16924104

Whenever I try to pan fry something in lard it pops and sizzles something mad. An area of 20 inches around need to be cleaned from fat droplets. This doesn't happen with butter. Have it gone bad or do you have to pat dry your meat excessively when using lard?

>> No.16924111

>>16924104
use a lower heat for lard.

>> No.16924121

>>16924050
>WRONG. All "studies" that came to that conclusion were intentionally biased via the sugar lobby, or malformed in some other way by special interests
How did you arrive at this conclusion other than video linked? It's really hard to take anything serious that says loads and loads of studies are just BS "because they're corrupt by special interest or lobbying" essentially. Where is this proven? Please don't say "common sense".

>> No.16924125

>>16924111
How will this achieve the Maillard effect on my meats? I need them golden before they dry out in the pan.

>> No.16924128

>>16924121
>That says loads of studies are BS
That video interviews several doctors, goes over how and why the studies are flawed, what logic errors were made, and who funded them. It's not my problem you won't look at something because it proves you wrong.
>Have fun staying stupid

>> No.16924129

>>16924050
can I get a fatter dick pls

>> No.16924146

>>16924129
No.
>>16924139
Yeah, there's a lot of doctors that specifically tell diabetics to eat fat, not gluten, because gluten raises your bloodsugar level and is linked to heart disease.

>> No.16924147

>>16923972
if any of this was true you would post a clinical trial but all the trials done disprove the hypothesis you are espousing

>> No.16924162

>>16923799
>Cooking at all
Sweetie, no... we have restaurants for that.

>> No.16924170

>>16924128
Do you have proof that those doctors were not funded by Big Lard?

>> No.16924172

>>16924146
>because gluten raises your bloodsugar level
that's weird because gluten is a protein and not a carb

>> No.16924180

>>16924170
immediately goes to ad hominem because no argument. many such cases

>> No.16924184

>>16923972
>Muh eggs
Vitamins and minerals in eggs:
>Vitamin A
>Vitamin D
>Vitamin B2 (riboflavin)
>Vitamin B12
>Folate
>Biotin
>Pantothenic acid
>Choline
>Phosphorus
>Iodine
>Selenium
>>16924162
>He can't make food for himself BETTER than a 5 star restaurant
You fucking peasant, don't communicate with me.
>>16924170
Do you have proof that the doctors in studies you like weren't funded by big sugar (a real lobby), or big grain (a real lobby, a lot of farmers)? No? Cope.
>>16924172
Sorry, I was thinking of carbs--but gluten causes: high cholesterol, high blood pressure, weight gain, and insulin resistance, which causes heart disease. Are you happier now?

>> No.16924186

>>16924128
What's with the attitude? Does multiple corroborating sources offend you somehow?

>> No.16924187

>>16924172
proteins do raise blood sugar a bit but less so than carbohydrate

>> No.16924193

Tezt

>> No.16924196

>>16924186
Your illiteracy at reading a study and yet your confidence in blatantly wrong things--combined with your willful ignorance--tells me that you're not worth my time. You are a retard, I cannot prevent you from being retarded.

>> No.16924215

no clinical trial has shown a significant mortality reduction from reducing fat or particularly saturated fat in the diet. vegetable oils in some trials reduced cvd deaths but increased cancer deaths so mortality didnt change or was worse in the interventions. all trials in link below.
https://static1.squarespace.com/static/5a4d5666bff20053c65b7ff2/t/5e7d1d617fa6e328446c1da3/1585257826194/RCTs+on+saturated+fats.pdf

>> No.16924291

>>16924215
Don't forget what else soytable oil does to you. For me: avocado or coconut oil (and lard) for high temp frying and searing, lard and peanut oil for fries, and olive oil for something lower temp/flavor.

>> No.16924312

>>16924180
>>16924184
So you don't have any proof? Why do you think it is valid to ask us to disregarding all studies that don't align with your points on the basis that they could biased by who is funding them while also wanting us to just accept that the studies in favor of your point are perfectly fine despite the fact that they could be affected by the same biases?

>> No.16924316

>>16923852
Luckily for me the mexi-mart near me still carries it. Pretty decent quality to

>> No.16924328

>>16923799
Not gonna bother addressing vegetable oil since that's obviously unhealthy. However the points against butter are unconvincing.

>No trans fat
Same for butter, no?
>More monosaturated fat than butter (blah blah blah)
>It's got a polyunsaturated fat--linoleic acid--blah blah
>Double the omega 3s of butter (blah blah)
All that sounds like bullshit nutrition science crap which will get reversed in a few years

>Less saturated fat than butter, BUT saturated fat is actually inversely correlated with heart disease (French Paradox)
So butter is better here by your own admission?

>Heathier than soy (vegetable) oil;, shortening
Damning with faint praise I see.

>Lactose intolerant people can eat it
They can also eat butter. Butter has practically no lactose in it. Next you'll give me the revelation that they can eat parmesan.

>As lard consumption declined, heart problems increased
global warming vs number of pirates.jpg

In fact I have nothing against lard, it's just hard to find and butter is always for sale. Not gonna waste time on ingredients that I have trouble sourcing in a pinch.

>> No.16924329

>>16924312
i was not the anon that suggested your evidence was motivated by industry bias. although the "evidence" you post is mostly of lesser quality and does not contain any clinical trials. see >>16924215 for the actual tests of the diet heart hypothesis of which over a billion dollars has been spent and over 75,000 people have been tested. every trial fails to confirm it which means it is very likely false

>> No.16924344

>>16923988
>Seems like a black people thing to do
99.5 percent of the negros in usa have never heard of it I'm sure, at least those under probably 40 years young

>> No.16924398

>>16924061
They used beef fat, also known as tallow.

>> No.16924428

because i use beef tallow

>> No.16924449

>>16924398
>>16924428
Tallow? But that's for candles!

>> No.16924475

>>16924398
You can see this effect yourself by making two sets of baked goods one with veg oil and one with tallow/lard and see which tastes better and has better texture

>> No.16924477

>>16924449
so is s o y but that doesn't stop you from consuming it

>> No.16924491

>>16924398
>They used beef fat, also known as tallow.
They used a mixture which included beef fat and vegetable oils. Not pure beef fat.

>> No.16924503

>>16924312
The video literally contains everything you could want. Stop being ignorant.
>>16924328
>The points against are unconvincing
>Nooo u can't just use science
Retard
>Damning with faint praise I see.
Explain
>They can also eat butter. Butter has practically no lactose in it. Next you'll give me the revelation that they can eat parmesan.
And?
>global warming vs number of pirates.jpg
That's a false correlation. Fat consumption goes down, grain consumption goes up, and heart disease along with both of them. Learn your place.

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16924539

>What's with the attitude? Does multiple corroborating sources offend you somehow?
>Your illiteracy at reading a study and yet your confidence in blatantly wrong things--combined with your willful ignorance--tells me that you're not worth my time. You are a retard, I cannot prevent you from being retarded.
>no clinical trial has shown a significant mortality reduction from reducing fat or particularly saturated fat in the diet. vegetable oils in some trials reduced cvd deaths but increased cancer deaths so mortality didnt change or was worse in the interventions. all trials in link below.
>https://static1.squarespace.com/static/5a4d5666bff20053c65b7ff2/t/5e7d1d617fa6e328446c1da3/1585257826194/RCTs+on+saturated+fats.pdf
>So you don't have any proof? Why do you think it is valid to ask us to disregarding all studies that don't align with your points on the basis that they could biased by who is funding them while also wanting us to just accept that the studies in favor of your point are perfectly fine despite the fact that they could be affected by the same biases?

>> No.16924546

>>16924539
I dont understand

>> No.16924553

>>16923799
haram astagfirullah

>> No.16924577

Morrel Snow Cap lard, the most common groxery store lard, is partoally hydrogenated to keep it solid at higher temps. So it does usually have transfats.

>> No.16924590

>>16923870
Frying eggs in duck fat is godly. Also, the eggs come out perfectly. You can also fry potatoes in them

>> No.16924597

>>16924215
Clinical trials are shit-tier studies for nutritional science. They are good for things like testing a vaccine or a drug.

>> No.16924604

>>16924597
>ive got no clue what the point of a control group or randomization is
Kek I always love it when this retard shows up.

>> No.16924606

>>16923996
nope, since it is unsaturated the molecule has the possibility to get an attachment of atom(s), which it will try to gain. What ever atoms that connect to it is the cause of different type of cancer and in general just not necessary for the body at all. Saturated and monosaturated on the other hand will simply be shat out if you eat a ton of it. Theres a cap to what our body will try to digest with saturated, but with mono- and polyunsaturated fat? Nope. It'll try but nope. Monounsaturated obviously being better but still shite
>>16923972
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GSQImPTY81E&t=30s
Saladinos guest is very interesting.
Saturated fats are the best, but hey you do you. There's also a shit ton of more information to dig in about cholesterol and stuff, there's so many factors in play when it comes to cholesterol and if a high/low LDL/HDL is healthy for the individual or not.

>>16923799
Problem with lard is you have to know what the pigs have been fed, since their fat content is made up of what they consume (unlike cows eg). Have they been fed grain its practically the same as eating seed oils/PUFAs/poison. I can't find any lard where they weren't fed any grain at all so I'm just using tallow. Delicious and great as well.

>> No.16924608

>>16924215
I don't think you know what a clinical trial means

>> No.16924626

>>16924577
>>16924606
>Buy shitty food
>Get shitty nutrients
Imagine my shock

>> No.16924660

>>16924604
Randomization isn't specific to clinical trials, you obese idiot. Also your control group eats one specific diet which is precisely why these type of studies are deficient for nutritional science.

>> No.16924666

>>16923799
My favorite burger spot uses lard to toast their buns, best burgers in my city. Sucks that they're moving locations and won't be open for a few weeks. I went there the last day at that location though and had a beer while I waited to pick up the food. They really are the best, they use the whole cow not just ground beef and then dry age it. You can definitely tell the difference. I cook with lard all the time though, I have almost no body fat so I can eat whatever I want and it doesn't affect me too much. I do exercise quite often though. Lard is great, my grandpa would only eat pies if the crust was made with lard.

>> No.16924679

>>16923799
i love how all the retards voluntarily engage in behavior that will be decimating them and all just to be pointlessly contrarian and own the progressives

>> No.16924687

>>16924539
I don't get the joke behind this soypost.

>> No.16924689

>>16924679
So there's no problem in continuing to use lard? Thanks for your consent.
>>16924666
Yep, it makes everything better and we ate it for centuries.

>> No.16924690

>>16924660
>I dont know what a control group is part 2

>> No.16924707

Because it's haram, anon. I do like cooking with beef suet though

>> No.16924729

>>16924606
Fella go back to highschool chemistry, you're understanding of molecular behavior is clearly lacking.
And if you're seriously suggesting polyunsaturated fats are bad you'll get the whole board laughing.

>> No.16924742

>>16924690
He's right though.
>>16924707
Based.
>>16924729
This

>> No.16924772

>>16924606
What are you even replying to me about?
a saturated fat molecule forms a straight line and an unsaturated fat molecule is curved like my schlong.
due to the literal shape of the molecule, saturated fat will pack together more than unsaturated.
even less so for PUFAs.

>> No.16924803

>>16923818
Ketotard liberals don't eat lard. They eat coconut oil and avocado oil.

>> No.16924819

>>16923799
>make pie with lard
>mmm bacon flavored apple pie
Honestly disgusting.

>> No.16924821

>>16924803
And lard.

>> No.16924833

>>16924819
memes aside apple and pork are a god tier flavour combo

>> No.16924868

>>16924162
You don't even know what you're being served

>> No.16924886

>>16924821
Libtards don't use lard.

>> No.16924930

>>16924819
what. have you never had ham and apple sauce
what is stuffed in the mouth of every stertypical pig roast ever

>> No.16924956

>>16924819
>He's never had a ham and apple sandwhich
Sounds disgusting, tastes delicious. Same as havarti and jelly grilled cheese.
>>16924886
They do.

>> No.16924970

>>16924821
>>16924956
>liblards

>> No.16926114

>>16924196
I have only questioned your stance and how you got to it from something other than a singular youtube video, this has nothing to do with my literacy nor have I made a single "confident" statement, go ahead and quote it. This is some next level deflection and projection because YOU are making confident statements, not me, while desperately throwing out insults to avoid engaging with the subject at hand.

If I'm truly not worth your time then don't reply.

>> No.16926713

Nah, ghee.

>> No.16926756

Too expensive, i in use chicken fat that come from stock bones

>> No.16926765

redpill me on olive oil.

>> No.16926767

>>16924070
This is an Indian board sir

>> No.16926822

All you fucking retards from a country with a for profit healthcare system arguing bullshit retard points.

Look at any research conducted by countries with social healthcare where the aim is to have FEWER patients in the system so they actually promote good health.

>> No.16926826

>>16923799
I got pork lard a few days ago for seasoning my new cast iron pan. What else do I use it for?

>> No.16926895

>>16924091
not OP but I want to elbow you into oblivion

>> No.16926898

>>16923799
Cause I'm not a fat fuck who needs to obsess over the cooking fats he uses and I switch it up depending on what I'm cooking and what I want from it. Generally I bounce around between butter, ghee, bacon fat, or olive/canola/peanut oil for different things. Gonna try to get my hands on some beef tallow in the near future as well but it's hard to find where I live and collecting/rendering it myself would be a pain in the ass.

>> No.16926901

>>16926826
Literally any function that calls for cooking fat. Probably don't sub it in for butter in most baked goods, but I'm not your dad.

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>>16923799
>It's got a polyunsaturated fat--linoleic acid--which again, reduces cholesterol, fights insulin sensitivity, and blood pressure
Linoleic acid (LA) is a polyunsaturated omega 6 fatty acid. The percent of this fat has doubled in most people's bodies within the last 50 years, now averaging around 20% of adipose. Without the the modern diet you'd only have about 3.8%.

Lard has LA nowadays because animals are fed more of a seed "vegetable" oil diet (Seed oils are rich in LA.)

>Double the omega 3s of butter (Most people in the west are deficient in this)
You are advocating for lard because it has more omega 3s. But the point is to balance omega 3s and omega 6s. Lard is still better than seed oils, and most oils contain more omega 6s than omega 3s anyway.
Basically don't just assume anything with omega 3s is good if it's still in a ratio of 1:10 omega 6s, because you need balance. Wild caught fatty fish have a high ratio of omega 3s to omega 6s, so it's good for balancing your omegas.

tl;dr Yes lard is good; as well as butter; olive, coconut, & avocado oil (the cold pressed kinds). But PUFA (poly unsaturated fatty acids) are questionable.

Here's a Youtube video that does a pretty good job discussing this topic.
https://youtu.be/rQmqVVmMB3k

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>>16923981
>being this stupid
lmao... are you even sentient?

>> No.16926972 [DELETED] 

>>16923981
Ancel Keys brainlet

>> No.16926997

>>16926946
The fact that the increase in deaths related to heart disease leads the increase in vegetable oil consumption on this chart suggests that the latter is not causally linked to the former and that you have no idea what the fuck you're on about.

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16927010

>>16926997
>t. can't read a basic graph
lmao holy shit my sides

>> No.16927019

>>16927010
>Doesn't understand that for a thing to cause something else it has to happen first

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16927041

>>16927019
>t. doubling down on retard analysis
hahahahaha... keep going this is hilarious.

>> No.16927221

>>16924291
Ditch the peanut oil. All seed oils are bad for you.

>> No.16928046

>>16927221
Peanuts aren't seeds

>> No.16928087

>>16926756
>Too expensive
Lard is 6 united states dollars for 4 pounds. Bottom of the barrel canola oil is about 3.75.

>> No.16928119

>>16924539
Get some help, schizo

>> No.16928120

>>16924886
I use lard
t. libtard in Los Angeles

>> No.16928125

>>16923799
I only use lard, butter and olive oil

>> No.16928138

>>16923987
I dont know if ive had shitty ghee or what, but ive tried more than one and they all had some strange taste to them I havent tasted in butter or my own clarified butter. I just use butter and it tastes much better

like I was making some chicken tikka masala, thought it could use some butter, but wait i have ghee which i think is indian, lets use that. throw it in, the entire sauce is tainted with the strong flavor i was referring to above and i hated it. tried the same recipe with butter and it was good

>> No.16928143

>>16923996
generally nothing is going to stick your arteries unless you have arterial wall scarring, which i believe is most often caused by chronic hyperglycemia

>> No.16928155

>>16924121
>>16924050
it also ties closely to the way the old food pyramid was designed. this article is pretty compact and easy to digest, but there are a lot of sources with the same claims that are easy to look up if you're interested

https://smokymountainnews.com/lifestyle/rumble/item/31055-a-history-of-the-food-pyramid

>> No.16928159

>>16924868
not lard, unfortunately

>> No.16928163

Is tenderflake lard okay? It’s all I can find at the grocery store

>> No.16928175

>>16924184
>gluten causes: high cholesterol, high blood pressure, weight gain, and insulin resistance
do you have a source? gluten is found in wheat products, which are high in carbs and do cause those things, but I;ve never heard of gluten doing this itself. if you understand high carb intake and hyperglycemia, its easy to see how those would cause those problems, but without a gluten intolerance, I dont see how gluten would cause those problems outside of being inflammatory, which doesnt seem to be the case outside of people with gluten intolerance

>> No.16928193

>>16924666
what restaurant/city? I want to try it if possible

>> No.16928207

>>16924833
get some griebenschmalz. its lard, onions, and apples, and maybe some spices. I had no idea it contained apples until i looked up a recipe, but its absolutely delicious

>> No.16928217

>>16926765
its bretty gud. Idk if its still the case, but at least at some point it was rumored the italian mafia would cut italian olive oil with sunflower or other oil for export. so generally they say you should buy spanish or CA olive oil

>> No.16928225

>>16926898
>canola/peanut oil for different things
opinion discarded. health is far more complex than obese vs not obese

>> No.16928234

>>16923799
I love that it doesn't cook away like oils or butter. Use it all the time.

>> No.16928356

>>16923799
>Double the omega 3s of butter
Two times fuck all is still fuck all.

>> No.16928369

>>16928225
>health is far more complex than obese vs not obese
Is it supposed to help the skin tone of your corpse when you die around the same age regardless?

>> No.16928391

>>16928369
Im not defending fatties, I'm saying even if you;re not fat, you should have some idea of the fats you should be consuming and which one's benefits dont outweigh their liability

>> No.16928395

>>16928391
Or you can not be a fat fuck, use whatever, but have some semblance of self control and don't literally guzzle the used cooking oil after each meal.

>> No.16928402

>>16928395
damn bro you sound pretty fat if you're going through withdrawals just from the suggestion that canola oil and peanut oil are shit and not worth their use cases that other oils can do just as well

>> No.16928437

>>16928402
Low quality, this board is a shell of its former self

>> No.16928450

>>16928437
low quality as opposed to your high quality post that literally nothing matters nutrition-wise if you eat calorie-neutral. truly the pinnacle of nutrition science and quality posts

>> No.16928459

>>16924050
I love fat but the reason we're sicker is definitely because we are all sedentary

>> No.16928765

>>16928459
probably not. the obesity epidemic coincided with the exercise craze in the 70s. also you can be skinny and sick or fat and metabolically healthy, the latter being admittedly quite rare

>> No.16928775

>>16928138
AFAIK ghee is simmered longer and at a higher temperature than regular clarified butter which adds more 'nutty' flavors.

>> No.16928780

>>16928765
"In the past 30years, as obesity has rocketed, there has been little change in physical activity levels in the Western population.2 This places the blame for our expanding waist lines directly on the type and amount of calories consumed. However, the obesity epidemic represents only the tip of a much larger iceberg of the adverse health consequences of poor diet. According to The Lancet global burden of disease reports, poor diet now generates more disease than physical inactivity, alcohol and smoking combined. Up to 40% of those with a normal body mass index will harbour metabolic abnormalities typically associated with obesity, which include hypertension, dyslipidaemia, non-alcoholic fatty liver disease and cardiovascular disease."
https://bjsm.bmj.com/content/49/15/967

>> No.16928808

>>16926767
anime board

>> No.16928834

Because it's a solid at room temperature.

I don't want pig fat clogging my body.

I use primarily canola oil because it's a liquid.

>> No.16928917

>>16928765
>>16928780
I blame corn subsidies primarily. we pay way too much to keep corn way too cheap, and thats where all the cheap soda, chips, etc come from. I wonder how much corn consumed in the US is actually as corn on the cob vs its derivative junk food

>> No.16928933

>>16928834
based reptile

>> No.16928972

>>16928450
Nigger nobody mentioned calories but you. The point is that if you live your life thinking that any one ingredient is going to be the cause of your early death then you likely have poor impulse control. Normal humans can eat all kinds of things in moderation and live their lives without autistically obsessing about which oil is most or least likely to make your balls have a stroke

>> No.16929011

>>16928972
the posts were very obesity-centric. where do you think obesity comes from?

you;re on a cooking board. if you primarily cook your own meals, as you should, you have the choice of oil to use, and if you;re like most people, you're not cooking incredibly vastly different food at all times. for most similar meals, you'll use similar oils. having a slight amount of education about the benefits and drawbacks of certain oils isnt autistic, especially in america where if you;re using vegetable oil and/or canola oil for everything, you're going to die bankrupt from medical bills. they dont even have a benefit for cooking you cant get elsewhere that would even come close to being worthwhile to cook with, other than being cheap

>> No.16929020

>>16929011
Spoiler alert, a lot of times on this site if someone is calling you a fat fuck it's just because you sound like a fat fuck you fat fuck.

>> No.16929042

>>16929020
I'm underweight by BMI, probably 12% bodyfat. why the fuck would a fatass care about the shit theyre shoveling into their mouth? thats not how you become a fat fuck. if you have literally zero understanding of the effect that things other than calories do to your body, its a lot more indicative of being a fat fuck

>> No.16929053

>>16929042
Uh oh Fatty's upset

>> No.16929075

>>16929053
you can have the last word, this has obviously devolved into a non-discussion and we're the only ones here. I hope you will have saved face with your own ego after your next reply