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16682084 No.16682084 [Reply] [Original]

https://thespoon.tech/report-80-percent-of-restaurant-jobs-could-be-taken-over-by-robots/

Would you prefer your takeout be done by niggers or by robots?

>> No.16682092

This argument has literally been discussed over the last 20 years yet still there are no robots filling these roles. Almost like futurologists are completely full of shit

>> No.16682094

Neither. I refuse to eat a strangers cooking

>> No.16682099

>>16682092
All the fucking PLCtards just want to show off their robot arms when all of this shit can be automated in a faster, cheaper, and more efficient manner. You're going to be seeing these bullshit articles for years to come yet as literally nobody adopts this shit.

>> No.16682102

Robots don't have boogers or pubes, so-
as long as the tray loader is Mexican or lighter I'm feeling good about this.

>> No.16682106

>>16682102
>mmm, iron filings and machine oil...

>> No.16682110

>>16682106
Food grade robot arms are commonly used in the industry.

>> No.16682116

>>16682084
They are more likely to have robotic cooking stations and one or two decently paid people handling the ingredient prep and customer interactions.

>> No.16682119
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BEST
TIMELINE
EVER

>> No.16682120

>>16682110
>mmm, food grade plastic filings and food grade machine oil...

>> No.16682121

>>16682099
Robots are becoming insanely fast and good
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tF4DML7FIWk

>> No.16682126

>>16682116
>one or two decently paid people handling the ingredient prep and customer interactions.

Whites?

>> No.16682129

>>16682121
Dat boi movin!

>> No.16682132

>>16682121
And you could do it even faster without all the bullshit trade show grandstanding crap. Hell, maybe people would even buy it then.
Eat shit. Robot arms are nothing but visual appeal. They're a sign that automation is moving away from efficiency to be more aesthetically pleasing.

>> No.16682133 [DELETED] 

>>16682120
>mmm, nigger grade nigger stench on my food yumyum yum *rubs tummy*

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>>16682120
Food and medical grade robot arms are usually covered with disposable plastic sleeves

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>>16682084

Sure they will.

>> No.16682139

>>16682134
>mmm, food grade disposable plastic sleeves...

>> No.16682147

>>16682139
I suppose you never saw a cook using plastic gloves?

>> No.16682151

>>16682139
better than kinky black hairs

>> No.16682152

>>16682084
Robots obviously.

>> No.16682156

>>16682132
Robot arms are used extensively in high-tech factories.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rbki4HR41-4
It's only a matter of time before they are used in restaurants

>> No.16682158

>>16682084
I prefer robot oil over nigger spit.

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>>16682137
dutch as fuck

>> No.16682296

>>16682084
>restaurant-jobs-could-be-taken-over-by-robots
They been saying this for 5-6 years and they aint done nuthin yet.

>> No.16682300

>>16682084
Do you Americans tip the robots?

>> No.16682306
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>>16682296
I've definitely seen a lot more kiosks and such in restaurants and fewer people actually working behind the counter

>> No.16682320

>>16682306
Excuse me, but where's the robot arm to operate the touchscreen and "hand"write my receipt? This shit isn't the future at all. It doesn't even have robot arms.

>> No.16682331

>>16682320

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QD9uZd7M6KU

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>>16682306
That's driven more by the fact people don't want to work at McDonalds, so much so that McDonalds is hiring underage kids.

>> No.16682340

>>16682084
Robots don't spit in your food, dumb question

>> No.16682342

>>16682331
That doesn't answer the question at all, PLCtranny.

>> No.16682352

>>16682342
What do Programmable Logic Controllers have to do with trannies?
Are you alright anon?

>> No.16682359

>>16682352
Next you're going to get confused about me calling you a retard niggger when you aren't black.

>> No.16682434

>>16682331
'Pilot store'
Every fucking time

>> No.16682732

>>16682156
Yeah, because they work 24/7 and pay themselves off quickly. I don't really see them replacing fast food workers simply due to logistical needs. I don't think you realize how much space a robotic arm requires and safety standards it has to meet. Also, do you imagine McDonald's would have constant IT support on stand-by in case it stops working?

>> No.16682936

>>16682139
I like this guy. Mmmm

>> No.16683354

who needs robot arms when we have conveyor belts and dispensary slots

>> No.16683405

>robots replace 80% of fastfood labor
>prices stay the same

>> No.16683706

>>16682084
Perhaps as far as shit like kiosks go, but there’s a reason the only places with automated kitchens are small sit ins hardly anyone has ever heard of. You’d have to properly renovate thousands upon thousands of buildings to make room for le rob arms and god help you if one of them shits the bed. These are the same fucks who can’t even keep ice cream machines from getting moldy, you seriously think they’re going to be able to properly deal with robot arms shitting themselves in the middle of the daily rush?

>> No.16683887

>>16682094
Ultra based.

>> No.16683941

>>16682084
Robots, and it isn't even close.

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>>16682359
I don't quite understand.

>> No.16683957

that sounds like a pain for the human to clean their tools after every order, unless those hands can pick up individual utensils

>> No.16683968

>>16683405
of course, why would a company lower their profit margin

>> No.16684052

>>16682126
Not for you Jose.

>> No.16684318

>>16682084
robots have you been to bugland there fast food is 100x better

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>>16682084
Most frozen food is made by machines already so it's really nothing new. Just at a smaller scale

>> No.16684449

honestly with chips in such short supply over the past two years and the difficulty it would take to retool restaurants to have automation to this degree I don't see it happening widescale. it's a big upfront cost that doesn't pay out in the long run so long as labor that you can burn through is so cheap

>> No.16684463

>>16682106
>mmmm pee, cum, snot and feces.

pick your poison

>> No.16684471

>>16682132
How many humans could do that? Especially am*ricans.

You seriously cant see the multitude of uses for these robots?

>> No.16684513

>>16684471
A major consideration when designing robots is whether or not to design them to utilizing existing items and systems made for human use. If the robots have to use the same things as humans then you have design and capability constraints.

>> No.16684516

>>16682084
They say this for over a fucking decade and it still didn't happen. Fuck off with this lying shit.

>> No.16684620

>>16682084
This will never happen and even if it did, they would have to hire employees to maintain them constantly. "Robots" constantly break down or need to be realligned or adjusted and cleaned. It can take hours to do all that shit and they fuck up constantly, no shitty fast food place is gonna bother with robotics when they can just keep their shitty teenagers that dont even ask for health benefits.

>> No.16684678

It is such a waste of machinery to have those robots scoop the ingredients from those trays. I bet a human still has to refill them, too. Why not just have those ingredients in a rotating compartmentalised barrel on top of the cooking station? Seems very expensive to have such a dynamic robot arm having to move up and down the trays and fill his little cup with the stuff. I'm sure it won't even be able to scoop properly when the tray isn't filled to the brim anymore.

>> No.16684826

>>16684516
Patience grasshopper.

>> No.16684859

Number 15. Burger king cable lettuce.

>> No.16684933

>>16682102
Yea but if a person sees a swarm of ants or cockroaches in the chicken they will throw the chicken out, the robot will keep serving it

>> No.16685081

>>16682306
i hate touch screens, they're dirtier than a toilet bowl

>> No.16685110

>>16682084
Neither. I’m a rich white American and cook my own meals because I care about my family and my future. Keep eating that bullshit we feed the spics and niggers tho. It’s basically food fit for cows and pigs.

>> No.16685118

>>16682306
I jack off in McDonald’s bathrooms and wipe my cum on these.

>> No.16685124

>>16682732
They’re a trillion dollar business and McDonald’s franchisees average a fuck ton of money per store. Automate the stores in white neighborhoods to pay for bullet proof glass in the nigger and spic hoods.

>> No.16685137

>>16682137
Somebody needs to bring Automats back to the US. With all the antisocial people running around these days it would probably be popular.

>> No.16685201

>>16682084
Both.

>> No.16685669

>>16682084
Not in 3rd world countries, which we all will be in 10 years. Maybe in China.

>> No.16685970

I remember when people said this and the 'March of the Machines' turned out to be a register that let the customers do the cashiers job themselves and a gate with a code reader on it. Petty crime got a pretty sweet deal I'll tell you that much..

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Taco Bell isn't going to be automated any time soon (and that's a good thing).

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Taco Bell isn't going to be automated any time soon (and that's a good thing).

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>>16682084
Less niggers making meals more niggers on the street acting niggerish and doing nigger things

>> No.16686023

>>16682137
Why did this fail? Food too old or was the refrigeration/ heating tech just not there?

>> No.16686025

>>16682160
Fuck that shit. It's literally a soylent dispenser.

>> No.16686041
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>we live in the timeline where botbanger diners will soon be staffed by actual robogirls

The future is bright, friends!

>> No.16686050

>>16686023
They were built when a nickel could buy you a meal, inflation required refitting the coin machines which proved too expensive to bother with-- not least of which because most Americans stopped carrying coinage of any sort in like the 1970s
Also the novelty of it wore off when fast food became the norm, especially the drive-thru

>> No.16686068

>>16686050
So no way to bring it back in a modern form then?

>> No.16686078 [DELETED] 

on the one hand my food wouldn’t be cooked by niggers, but on the other hand the food might end up being even worse without a human touch.
There are the extremely rare fast food cooks out there who have realized the alchemy of cooking

>> No.16686090

>>16686068
Some smaller ones popped up during the last depression, but like $1 slice pizza joints the only viable business model for them is high volume of sales and the foot traffic just ain't there anymore.

>> No.16686103

>>16686068
>no way to bring it back in a modern form then
Have you literally never seen a vending machine? They suck. I'm sorry you were born a zoomer, but there's no going back. Those of us old enough to remember how amazing the Super Nintendo was look back with nostalgia, but don't want to go back; it was an innovation at the time - a really big innovation - but things are better now. I mean, the youth has gotten stupider and lazier, but that's kind of a different issue.

>> No.16686125

>>16686068
Some of them are still around. As >>16686090, points out you need the right ratio of price to foot traffic to make them viable and that can be hard to reach. Also automats are basically cafeterias that use vending machines for product holding before sale, so in many cases its just an added expense over a regular cafeteria/buffet style restaurant.

>> No.16686126

We'll have to work at Amazon for a hour for one protein pill.

>> No.16687610

>>16682084
how can a robot tell if it's serving spoiled items?

>> No.16687698

>>16686068
I believe they still have these in some European countries.

>> No.16687723
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>>16682084
How about we create an app that finds the people on the earth that have fetishes for making fast food and then give them the opportunity to clone themselves and be a hive mind.

And it wouldn’t be work. They’d do everything flawlessly thoughtlessly and have flirty perfect lovely fun at the exact same time with each other all the time for eternity. The perfect only fun. You feel?
Like a fate that you’d wish for with all your love and enjoy yourself too.
And do other things as well. We can swap them out with other clones. They can even breed and create more employees. If they want. They’ll still be humans/god with total free will.

Essentially we just give a soul heaven and it in return naturally as apart of its heaven gives us heaven

No slavery
No controlling
Just wish granting

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>> No.16687918

>>16682092
Yea, nah. Maccas has 0 checkout chicks and they have to pull someone off some other task if someone demands to pay cash.
Maybe this hasn't hit USA yet because slave labor?

>> No.16687962

>>16682092
That's only because we've had to find jobs for worthless people. After the Jab takes effect, we'll be able to drop the facade.

>> No.16687972

>>16684620
Let me assure you, if the robot and teenager are even close to comparable in price, store owners will pick the robot. Hiring and training is one of the shittiest parts of any job. I would rather go back to shoveling gravel every day than ever be involved in dealing with a new employee again.

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>>16682092
We're not sticking full on androids in the kitchen, but that doesn't mean things aren't getting automated. Dishwashers are the obvious example. The soda machines are pretty much totally automated across fast food as well at this point. Dextrous manipulation of food was a harder problem than pop writers gave it credit for, but frankly the biggest issues were solved once AI could actually start recognizing objects in the real world consistently, which is why there's suddenly a big new wave of these things popping up

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>>16682139
>>16682147
>>16682151
>>16682936
>not one single reply containing the phrase 'robot arm condom'
for shame

>> No.16688047

>>16686103
The SNES generation has aged so much better than early 3D.

>> No.16688084

I will not buy anything from companies that automate. I'm prepared to go full caveman on this rich faggots, reducing the value of humans to line their own jewish pockets.

>> No.16688109

>>16688084
Every company has been automating for the last hundred years

>> No.16688112

>>16687723
I'm willing to bet she smells like fast food, sweat and ass.

>> No.16688123

they've been saying this for fifty fucking years. yes, it's happening. but it's been happening for fifty fucking years, i.e., very fucking slowly. it won't be completely automated until the late 21st century, by which point our financial system will be completely different because there will be zero demand for unskilled human labour.

>> No.16688129

>>16686103
>I mean, the youth has gotten stupider and lazier,
Go be boomer somewhere else

>> No.16688145

>>16688129
It's kind of a perennial trope that older people think that the younger generation doesn't work as hard as they did, but literally every living generation thinks that zoomers are lazy, entitled shits.

>> No.16688150

>>16688109
There's a difference between making workers more productive or making their jobs easier, and eliminating them. That's where I draw the line.

>> No.16688151

>>16682092
This tbqh. Automation was supposed to put every truck driver out of a job like a decade ago.

>> No.16689166

>>16682084
If robots are gonna take all our jobs we better tax the shit out of the companies and have a universal basic income

>> No.16690231

>>16688150
No, there isn't. Every time you make one worker more productive, you eliminate a job elsewhere

>> No.16690234

>>16682084
>Would you prefer your takeout be done by niggers or by robots?
here's a bigger question
if robots end up taking over most jobs, will you prefer a universal basic income, or spiting black people?

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>>16682092
>but in only 5 more years!!!!!!!

>> No.16690242

>>16688150
>There's a difference between making workers more productive or making their jobs easier, and eliminating them. That's where I draw the line.
This. My family has been in the lumber business for about 130 years, from the forest to the lumbermill. We still do everything by hand, no gas powered tools or electricity is involved, because we did the math and realized that workers would lose their jobs.

We went out of business 90 years ago, but we still hold our heads high. You can find us under the I95 overpass at highway 86 if you'd like to visit decent folks.

>> No.16690249

>>16690237
I hate how this faggot has gone from writing genuinely interesting books to getting on his soapbox about irrelevant social issues and bullshit.

>> No.16690280

>>16682121
It took them a year to get that routine right

>> No.16690307

>>16682084
they been saying that robots will take over for years, but when will they actually take over?
cause I'm sick and tired of hearing about these fast food workings bitching and moaning about how degrading the job is and how interacting with customers is like a daily holocaust to them.

>> No.16690372

Any day now

>> No.16690383

Automation by far. We've pretty much had auto payment systems in Japan for decades now, you 'mericans are behind. Plus no greasy niggers touching your food.

>> No.16690394

>>16690280
>It took them a year to get that routine right
So you're saying that it took them only a year to get the orders right? How does that compare with most drive thru orders?

>> No.16690439

>>16682092
>Almost like futurologists are completely full of shit
Almost like what “could happen in the future” and what’s “probably in the pipeline” are different things.
You realize tech gets cheaper with time, yeah?
I doubt you remember when flat TV’s were something you really only saw in celebrity’s houses on MTV Cribs. The thought that they’d eventually be the menu boards above the counter at fast food joints would have been laughed at.
Robots have been cost effective for repetitive skilled labor like assembly-line welding for quite a while now. They’re just now becoming cheap enough to be an effective investment to replace repetitive unskilled labor like assembling burgers/tacos out of like 5 ingredients in various combinations.

>> No.16691092

>>16690249
hes been talking bullshit since 2003
>bro fusion in 10 years

>> No.16691203

Are you saying... I'll never have to tip again?

>> No.16691229

>>16682092
>>16690237
>>16690372
No one claims "automation is just gonna start any day now" Even Yang claimed that fully autonomous trucks are probably only ready by at least 2025.
Automation has been happening for hundreds of years in many forms, its just that sooner or later, we're going to have to deal with the fact that most supply chains in most industries will not include as many people.

>> No.16691267

>>16691229
>2025
ANY DAY NOW! JUST A FEW MORE YEARS NOW!

>> No.16691377

>>16682099
The reason robotic arms are useful in a factory environment is because they can easily be reprogrammed to work on a wide variety of parts/components as well as being able to reach into tight spaces with high accuracy, this is why the most common applications for these arms are in welding and painting.
In fast food this would only be useful if the menu changes frequently and drastically, or if there are other constraints such as space or complexity.

But the real reason robots/automation have never caught on imo is because if the machine needs to go down for maintenance or for some other reason, you're SOL and losing cash every second it doesn't work. With workers they're ironically more expendable.

>> No.16691400

>>16682092
the minimum wage argument is heating up. if people want to make it illegal to work for less than a certain amount then many people will end up being unable to work and be put out of the job by robots.

>> No.16691404

>>16688151
unions will make it so that even if it is fully automated a union employee will be there to babysit the truck

>> No.16691408

>>16682084
good. i hope in-n-out is first. they have two items...hamburger and cheeseburger. they manage to fuck up my order every time.

>> No.16691410

>>16682121
that is fully pre-programmed and coreographed and took hundreds of attempts just to get a single take. I'd like to see it working a fryer

>> No.16691417

>>16686023
it's not much different from an open refrigerator and it doesn't cost much money to stick a single employee behind a till, and that same employee can help stock items during slow periods

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>>16686068
they tried to do larger format vending machines but leftists lost their shit over it claiming that they were trying to destroy people's culture by replacing bodegas

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>>16682331
CAPTCHA GAYDX

>> No.16691671

my job is to automate and remove people's jobs and im happy about it

>> No.16692532

>>16691671
yo same. it's unbelievable the amount of bullshit repetitive tasks people get paid to do. spent the last month putting together a bit of automated image editing so we can stop paying yuro freelancers to do it.

>> No.16692580

>>16687972
>if the robot and teenager are even close to comparable in price
They aren't though. Even now. Because the major difference between a burger robot and a teen is that the burgerbot has a huge up-front cost. Not to mention that you have to hire someone to maintain the burgerbot anyway. So unless the cost of a burgerbot is less than the cost of two employees it's not worth it.

>> No.16692584

>>16686068
dont they use these in Japan also?

>> No.16692589

>>16692580
*unless the cost of a burger bot + a (potentially bad) employee is less than the cost of a single bad employee

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>>16682092
Since the 1960s.

>> No.16692666

>>16692580
That assumes that burgerbot only takes the spot of one employee, and that the maintenance person isn't responsible for multiple bots. If you're a franchisee with half a dozen stores that math doesn't necessarily look so bad.
We're also talking like the bot is an android that completely replaces a human's role in a fast food joint. More likely is that it does a single task more consistently. So you have a bot that now makes all of your burgers. Sure, you need one member of staff on hand with basic maintenance knowledge, but you already need them to clean the place and deliver finished orders. Over time, maybe, you automate all of those things, but that's not the math that gets burgerbot in the door.
I maintain that the issue has been that we legitimately couldn't put together robots that could make all this food until AI object recognition got to where it is today. Dispenser-type conveyors only go so far when you're dealing with irregular shapes like lettuce, but robots are way more dextrous and capable than they were ten years ago.

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>>16692666
checked.

it also eliminates time needed for scheduling, training, supervising, errors, remakes.

>inb4 nuh, uh the robot can break
someone will be there to monitor the robot.

>> No.16692684

>>16692666
Also, I should note, you can't just be a pioneering franchisee on your own automating because the big company will fuck you over for trying to change literally anything. There was a company that made a tool to notify managers when the ice cream machine's regular maintenance needed to be done at McDonald's. Their selling point was that it was human readable notifications, and franchisees using it saw way less down time from broken ice cream machines. McDonald's immediately sued them.
So we're in an awkward situation where the business owners who would best benefit from automation are spooked to actually experiment with it.

>> No.16692721

>>16692677
>robot breaks
>breakdown alarm sounds
>alarm wagie also presses his alarm button
>manager confirms there is an alarm
>three hours later (if it's daytime, only works from 9AM to 9PM) repair wagie shows up
>"Aw jeez, this is a programmer wagie problem. He don't work today. Fancy man."
>18+ hours downtime, otherwise you pay for express overtime repairs

>> No.16692770

>>16692721
I mean, that's why you have redundancy. It sucks when a machine goes down at the height of a busy season, but it just means you're slower not that you're closed. There are a lot of machines in kitchens already, all of which have the potential to fail, but you build your system around that. Hell, if you're a big enough company you probably have stats on how often any given machine is expected to fail and can actually quantify it when planning. Then it's just a matter of defining what an acceptable level of error is when compared against your bottom line.
I guess it also depends on what kind of output your company produces. The one I work for does a ton of custom stuff, so even though we can automate 95% of orders, we keep people and machines on hand for specialties, and when something catastrophic happens with the automation we're capable of filling in to take care of the stock, too. I could imagine a world where there's a robot to handle the eternal McDonald's menu, and people/equipment to prepare the rotating specialty item. Then, even if your robot goes down, you still have the ability to adapt. You still save time and money 99% of the time when all cylinders are firing.

>> No.16692811

>>16692770
>robot breaks
>breakdown alarm sounds
>backup robot swings into action before alarm wagie can do his job
>backup robot breaks
>alarm wage presses his alarm button and cries softly
>anon writes a tl;dr about robots in food service that nobody will fucking read
>total losses: lots

>> No.16692888
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>>16682084
Robots over nigglers all day, not a hard choice at all.

>> No.16693462

>>16686025
Rent free.

>> No.16693481

>>16683957
>Arm finishes the order/its part of the order
>Puts its utensil module into the autocleaning tray
>Attaches a clean, more appropriate for the next task utensil module
>Proceeds to the next order
>Ad infinitum
This isn't rocket science, Anon.

>> No.16693502

>>16688150
If you own a car or anything with a processor, then you are not living up to your words.

>> No.16693506

>>16690242
>We went out of business 90 years ago
My fucking sides.