/ck/ - Food & Cooking

[Anonymous No.16636283]

*blocks your path*

[Anonymous No.16636296]

the only reason I pay for coffee outside my house is because I like watching some faggot make it for while projecting every single smug internet user I've ever encountered onto their face

[Anonymous No.16636328]

>>16636283
Why would you need a fancy robot arm for this, can't you just have a few coffee/espresso machines and an automated conveyer belt or something? It's not like you need to actually replicate the motion of the barista's arms unless you go to the coffee shop to get fists crammed your ass.

[Anonymous No.16636331]

>>16636283
This is a dumb guys idea of automation

[Anonymous No.16636526]

or you could just install this for 1/16th the space and 1/10,000th the price.

[Anonymous No.16636539]

>>16636328
Because boomer investors think it's revolutionary. They want robots and flying cars. >>16636526 already exists, works better, cheaper.

[Anonymous No.16636556]

In America if you dont tip it you get boiling coffee thrown at you.

[Anonymous No.16636561]

>>16636328
Coffee machines are expensive, it's cheaper to have one for three customers, and a conveyer belt that doesn't spill the coffee would probably be more expensive than a simple arm moving cups from the coffee machine to the customer

[Anonymous No.16636588]

>>16636526
>>16636539
I think the benefit of the OP unit would be cost and practicality, all you need is an espresso machine and the arm. The espresso machine can also be operated normally by moving the arm
A vending machine unit would likely pump out instant coffee, and if it does make espressos it would probably be expensive, finicky and highly niche

[Anonymous No.16636596]

>>16636526
The difference is that I can trick myself into thinking the one in the op makes good coffee.

[Anonymous No.16636601]

>>16636561
There is probably a design for which this is cheaper, but it's not this one
>Standard: $225,000
>Standard + Modular Shelf: $230,000
>Once a Robotic Coffee Bar is in operation, Cafe X will charge a monthly Operational Support fee starting at US$1,000 per month to provide remote support and on-site support

[Anonymous No.16636610]

>>16636588
Nah there's a ton of machines like that that do real crappy espresso, at least in Australia where espresso-based coffee is the bare minimum people will accept. You get that kind of thing in petrol stations and the same thing in an espresso-machine-styled package at stuff like McDonalds.

[Anonymous No.16636646]

can an espresso machine swirl your latte, huh?

[Anonymous No.16636743]

>>16636283
the naive ideal of automation
>>16636526
the disappointing reality of automation

[Anonymous No.16636760]

>>16636296
how far can you push the line on demanding they make it again?
accidentally dropping it?
sipping it and saying it tastes wrong?

[Anonymous No.16636791]

>>16636760
I wouldn't purposely be a dick to a barista I'm not that bad, just watching them live out their miserable existence is enough

[Anonymous No.16636798]

>>16636588
>would probably be expensive, finicky and highly niche
and the robot cubicle isn't going to be?

[Anonymous No.16636844]

>>16636283
This is what happens when you let non-engineers design stuff

[Anonymous No.16637193]

>>16636283
>place order
>say please and thank you
>leave a 25% tip
Why would I alter my behavior just because the barista looks different?

[Anonymous No.16637208]

We had one of these near my office building. I would walk by it everyday, watching it dance around in its booth, while a human worker stood in front of it - and gave out coupons for free coffee. I don't think I once saw someone actually pay for it.

[Anonymous No.16637222]

>>16636283
*flips the shed over*

[Anonymous No.16637353]

>>16636760
the machine's probably made in Japan
meaning
>it's never made wrong
>you cant customize your order, order strictly off the menu
>you have to pay for another if you drop it

[Anonymous No.16637356]

>>16636646
How does the machine wash it's hand?

[Anonymous No.16637499]

>coffebot2000 breaks
>have to replace it with the latest model for twice the price
>hipster barista 'breaks' (read: meltdown over orange man)
>replace him with pablo for half the price

[Anonymous No.16637610]

>>16636601
>Mandatory $1000 a month maintenance subscription counting on their piece of shit breaking and you needing their help
What confidence that instills

[Anonymous No.16637622]

>>16636526
I fucking miss these shitty things. They used to have one at the station for the cross-town ferry, and you just know they probably had to get rid of it after one-too-many kids tried to grab the cup before the machine was done pouring. I don't think I've seen one in public for nearly a decade now.

[Anonymous No.16637682]

>>16636283
what's the point of putting the robot there if you could build a machine that does the job more efficitenly?

[Anonymous No.16637716]

>>16637682
For show
It's pretty fucking obvious it's meant to be a display.
Plus most of the hardware are off the shelf, if not all. So most of the work went into the software.

[Anonymous No.16637734]

>>16637622
Vending machines don't work in low trust societies. They are everywhere in Europe, Australia and Japan. It appears that certain cultures and demographics are not adapt to handle such responsibility.

[Anonymous No.16637745]

>>16637734
They still have dozens of other vending machines, they just got rid of the coffee one because there was nothing stopping people from grabbing their coffee before it was done pouring. Most modern versions of the machines have a safety interlock to prevent that.
I get what you're getting at, but this was an issue with children being harmed, not theft or vandalism.

[Anonymous No.16637857]

>>16637622
Too high tech for me. I miss the machines that used to piss out trucker coffee into these little fuckers right here

[Anonymous No.16637872]

>>16636646
can the robot clean its little room too?
worker bros...

[Anonymous No.16638798]

>>16636526
The vending machine in the nursing building at my school made some of the best coffee I've ever had, although you had to bring your own mug because it'd dispense a drink even if it was out of cups and the cups were shitty anyways.

[Anonymous No.16638953]

>>16636283
The coffee on these just comes out of a regular coffee machine, of course. They taste just like... regular coffee. Noticeably not as good as coffee from a dedicated cafe, and I'm not a coffee snob by even the remotest stretch of imagination.

[Anonymous No.16639200]

>>16636283
is this in SFO? I thought that this was a stupid invention until my flight was delayed and all of the wagenegroes had gone home and nothing was open

[Anonymous No.16639217]

>>16637208
>while a human worker stood in front of it - and gave out coupons for free coffee
kek

[Anonymous No.16639237]

>>16636283
boy do I hate this technology obsessed culture. it's a fucking Rube Golberg contraption.

[Anonymous No.16639252]

>>16639237
I think a Rube Goldberg machine that entertains you as your coffee brews would actually be more interesting than yet another pointless robot arm.

[Anonymous No.16639356]

>>16637872
actually a good question,

The vending machines at work were cleaned every day by the lunch lady. took everything apart and washed it in hot soapy water.
The machines were from the 80s and made great coffee the internal counter showed close to 1m sold coffees but its possible that it was on its second leap and its actually 2M.

New machines are rented from coca cola because a unionized lunch lady is to expensive. they get wiped with a dirty rag once a week and make digusting coffee.

[Anonymous No.16639363]

>>16636791
That's pretty telling of your own character

[Anonymous No.16639381]

>>16639237
>>16639252
The advantage is that a universal 6axis can have one load cell that can consistently torque out no matter what the task is - and a 6axis with a good driver can do a damn lot.
When you use more discrete io/pneumatics you need to design fifty ways to not take someone's finger off and still, someone's going to lose a finger eventually.
Also they look really cool. Still, the load cell 6axis is falling out of fashion as most places figure out that a good light curtain and a pause wire is still osha and electrically guaranteed.

[Anonymous No.16639388]

>>16636283
Now it’s time to make food free

GMOs make that easy

We don’t pay taxes to get our money burned in a desert like it has been the last decade

[Anonymous No.16639405]

>>16639381
I get that PLC guys love their toys, but it's a lot of useless shit when you can have a coffee vending machine that's an eighth of the size and not designed to put on a fucking show. Seriously, this is revisiting a problem that was solved decades ago, and providing a new solution that's more costly and space-consuming and in no way more efficient.

[Anonymous No.16639414]

>>16639381
problem with HRC robots is that there only allowed to move with 250mm/s
normal 6axis robots behind a fence can do 2m/s

[Anonymous No.16639415]

>>16639405
The value of a thing is in more than just it's "efficiency", if you can even give life a quantifiable metric like that.
It absolutely is revisiting a project solved decades ago. Is the federal government replacing your serviceable vending machines and forcing you to eat the ABB bugs?

[Anonymous No.16639422]

>>16637857
those are still running great with millions of coffees sold.
they have normal paper cups now to.
the instant coffee vanilla is great.

[Anonymous No.16639428]

>>16639414
Absolutely correct, give or take on the actual tool-load. Hence my last sentence.

[Anonymous No.16639438]

>>16639415
I don't need to have a horse in this race to point out it's a stupid and overdesigned product. I'd get it if it was some sort of proof-of-concept shit, but apparently the company behind it is actually marketing it.
It's a novelty at best, not the future.

[Anonymous No.16639472]

>>16639438
its kind of shit you would see at a trade shop just to show what's possible.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GUvvomln9Fs

[Anonymous No.16639482]

>>16637857
new option, to make compliant in "lawsuit" countries that allow lawsuit farming to make money instead of just protecting people from the get go

install plastic shield that, tada, stays down during the filling process, won't operate if its kept open, camera facing said machines front/sides/back/top/bottom(2 360 cameras on the top and bottom of the machine)

no kids being coached by deadbeat parents wanting free money, no methheads burning themselves and going home letting it fester, no internet kids doing shit to "earn free money/cred",

just straight up coffee/mocha/chai/etc, cheap, affordable, and without massive markups because a human has to take your shit to feel good

[Anonymous No.16639553]

>>16639482
>install plastic shield that, tada, stays down during the filling process, won't operate if its kept open
That's what most of the modern machines are like, especially in other markets. They solved that problem years ago, but there's still plenty of the old ones in service.

[Anonymous No.16639603]

>>16637857
>Must be my lucky day

[Anonymous No.16639617]

>>16636328
You misunderstand. The massive robot arm does not need to be there. It, in fact, makes this services less effective and efficient.

However, the point is not the highest quality, or the most efficient service. It's about the performance. This is why you can see your robot "barista." So you can pay far too much money and go "wow!! cool future!!!"

[Anonymous No.16640185]

>>16636646
When Skynet awakens these things are going to catch humans like bear traps.

[Anonymous No.16640283]

>>16637857
Those cups.

Man, kinda brings back some memories.