/ck/ - Food & Cooking

[Anonymous No.16620793]

Why are indians so unhealthy if most of them have a vegetarian diet.

[Anonymous No.16620795]

>>16620793
It’s a lifestyle thing, not a diet thing.
I don’t know when you niggas are going to realize.

[Anonymous No.16620799]

>>16620793
beef tallow is essential, in moderation, for adequate brain development

[Anonymous No.16620804]

>>16620793
vegetarian diet isn't healthy.

shock horror, but despite what the propagandists tell you, there are things in meat the body needs you cannot get elsewhere.

To clarify though (lest I be accused of beint a carnitard/ketard), you do not need that much meat to satisfy this need. Also much of it can be derived from animal bones made into a stock.

[Anonymous No.16620810]

>>16620804
>things in meat you can't get elsewhere
lies
>>16620799
wrong

[Anonymous No.16620815]

>>16620793
Because they also don't have clean water and shit in the street

[Anonymous No.16620820]

>>16620793
>According to ICMR-INDIAB study 2015, prevalence rate of obesity and central obesity are varies from 11.8% to 31.3% and 16.9%-36.3% respectively.
>70%+ of americans over 20 are overweight or obese
cringe

[Anonymous No.16620834]

>>16620793
Excessive consumption of seed oils. A huge portion of an Indian's calories comes from fried food. Samosas, vadas, pakoras, etc. You'll notice a pattern across the eastern part of Asia in general, the people are short and malnourished because their diet primarily consists of rice, vegetables and oil.

[Anonymous No.16620838]

>>16620834
>Seed oil bad
I'm so sick of this ketolard meme
https://www.heart.org/en/healthy-living/healthy-eating/eat-smart/fats/polyunsaturated-fats
>Polyunsaturated fats can have a beneficial effect on your heart when eaten in moderation and when used to replace saturated fat and trans fat in your diet.
AHA Recommendation
>For good health, the majority of the fats that you eat should be monounsaturated or polyunsaturated. Eat foods containing monounsaturated fats and/or polyunsaturated fats instead of foods that contain saturated fats and/or trans fats.

They're literally trying to flip the script on saturated fats because of their cult-tier diet.

[Anonymous No.16620840]

>>16620804
I'm trans btw

[Anonymous No.16620843]

The Indians in my area look pretty fit to me. And the women are fine as hell. Even the homely ones have a pleasing look to them.

[Anonymous No.16620846]

>>16620838
They're going to vehemently deny this and source a bunch of soccermommy blogs about seed oils being scary

[Anonymous No.16620849]

>>16620810
Stfu vegan faglord

[Anonymous No.16620855]

>>16620838
>Polyunsaturated fats can have a beneficial effect on your heart when eaten in moderation and when used to replace saturated fat and trans fat in your diet.
absolute retard. this has been tested in many clinical trials and every time has had no effect or the people eating seed oils died more

[Anonymous No.16620861]

>>16620834
>>16620838
Why is some fat bad and other fat good? Heart.org just said that vegetable oil fat was good without an explanation.

[Anonymous No.16620862]

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/22850317/
>These findings suggest that a dietary pattern characterised by a low amount of carbohydrate, but high amounts of protein and fat, is associated with a poorer small artery vascular reactivity
Ketolards ITT are having heart attacks as we speak

[Anonymous No.16620868]

>>16620855
>absolute retard. this has been tested in many clinical trials and every time has had no effect or the people eating seed oils died more

[Anonymous No.16620869]

>>16620862
does this actually mean increased mortality? i doubt it.

[Anonymous No.16620890]

>>16620868
and that's how you know all the clinical trials don't support your hypothesis. if you did you'd post them.

https://static1.squarespace.com/static/5a4d5666bff20053c65b7ff2/t/5e7d1d617fa6e328446c1da3/1585257826194/RCTs+on+saturated+fats.pdf

[Anonymous No.16620904]

>>16620838
Wait a minute, didn't AHA get millions of dollars in startup funding by P&G around the time they created crisco?

[Anonymous No.16620906]

>>16620904
yes but not important i swear. TRUST the AHA

[Anonymous No.16620910]

>>16620904
>whataboutism
They receive huge amounts of money from Tyson Foods as well, what's your point?

[Anonymous No.16620913]

>>16620838
>using big bang theory pics
ngmi

[Anonymous No.16620914]

Pollution, culture. As of Mar 2020, six of the 10 world's most polluted cities are in India. Air pollution there kills over a million people a year. Even ignore the specific hot spots, the average PM2.5 in all Indian cities exceeds WHO guidelines by over 500%. Their water is awful. The main tributary of the Ganga has has has no detectable complex life (e.g. fish) for decades. Large parts of the populace only have the most basic concept of hygiene, much less safe food handling.

[Anonymous No.16620923]

>>16620913
>knowing the source of the pic
>using "ngmi" outside of /fit/
newfag

[Anonymous No.16620925]

>>16620890
>SQUARESPACE

[Anonymous No.16620929]

>>16620793

They eat unhealthy vegetarian foods, Indians are also more prone to heart disease because they are genetically predisposed to have narrow blood vessels.

[Anonymous No.16620933]

>>16620925
not an argument. enjoy that early grave

[Anonymous No.16620945]

>>16620910
I mean tyson is shady as fuck too. I don't really endorse a keto diet unless its to help people as a detox from processed shit carbs and soda. I also don't support a SAD diet. I think the more important thing is that the AHA was a nothing organization when it was founded, just a couple people in a basement, and crisco paid them literally millions of dollars (back in 1910s as well, mind you) to endorse their hydrogenated trans fat seed oil byproduct as something you can eat and was somehow superior to lard/tallow (their competition).

AHAs foundation is basically built on cooperate shilling, so I find them difficult to trust.

But again, I don't like meme diets, keto or vegan. Don't like either of them. But I hate shills the most. Fuck the SAD diet. Fuck it to hell.

[Anonymous No.16620947]

>>16620933
a list of a bunch of studies with <1000 participants
I'll be sure to die real young with my healthy balanced diet as you all yoyo between 240 and 360lbs

[Anonymous No.16620954]

>>16620947
>a list of a bunch of studies with <1000 participants
you clearly didn't even look. retard ostrich syndrome.

[Anonymous No.16620960]

[Anonymous No.16620964]

>>16620954
"a double blind randomized controlled trial designed to test whether replacement of saturated fat with vegetable oil rich in linoleic acid reduces coronary heart disease and death by lowering serum cholesterol...randomized cohort of 9423 women and men aged 20-97...22% higher risk of death for each 30 mg/dL (0.78 mmol/L) reduction in serum cholesterol"
https://www.bmj.com/content/353/bmj.i1246

[Anonymous No.16620977]

>>16620964
>oh no seed oils are going to kill me
>is 250lbs and eating shit food every day

[Anonymous No.16620981]

>>16620947
An 8-year randomized, controlled clinical trial on 846 men to test the hypothesis that saturated fats cause heart disease.
"The experimental diet induced a prompt drop in serum cholesterol level and sustained a difference between the experimental and control groups amounting to 12.7% of the starting level...Deaths due to nonatherosclerotic causes numbered 71 in the control group and 85 in the experimental group. Most of the difference occurred in the latter part of the study. Consideration of causes of death in this category suggested that this difference probably did not reflect a toxic effect of the experimental diet."
https://www.ahajournals.org/doi/10.1161/01.CIR.40.1S2.II-1

[Anonymous No.16620987]

>>16620977
P&G has deposited $0.05 into your account.

[Anonymous No.16620997]

>>16620987
I don't even need to shill to make fat ketolards seethe about being pieces of garbage. I'll do it for free.
If the highest concern of your diet is seed oils and you're also overweight you deserve an early death.

[Anonymous No.16620998]

>>16620947
Im 120 lbs soaking wet.

[Anonymous No.16621005]

>>16620997
>If the highest concern of your diet is seed oils
its not. first is sugar. tied for second is probably seed oils and refined carbohydrate like white flour and whatever crap they use in processed foods nowadays

[Anonymous No.16621010]

[Anonymous No.16621012]

>>16620997
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gfrhcsWfG3g&ab_channel=HowIt%27sMadeOfficial

This stuff is kind of gross ngl.

[Anonymous No.16621013]

>>16620793
>>16620834

>civilization has iphones but cant get one of the most basic things for life right

[Anonymous No.16621014]

>>16621005
fuck you you fucking fatty. If your worried about any of the food you're sucking down your gullet you're doomed to fail
Thank fuck I was raised in a normal family and know innately how to eat healthy.

[Anonymous No.16621017]

>>16621010
>>16620960
/thread

[Anonymous No.16621018]

>>16621010
shouldnt have watched this while eating

[Anonymous No.16621019]

>>16621014
sugar and processed foods are healthy? i'd bet anything i outlive your twink vegan ass

[Anonymous No.16621020]

>>16621014
you're*, typing while high, try to negate anything bad I said based on a grammar mistake though

[Anonymous No.16621027]

>>16621014
If you were raised in a normal family you would have never heard of this website. Stop kidding yourself.

[Anonymous No.16621030]

>>16621019
>sugar and processed foods are healthy?
never said that. cope seethe dial 8. But if you're worried about the food you eat you're already doomed to a life of obesity and early death.
People shouldn't have to think about "eating healthy" it should just be a normal instinct if you weren't raised by shit eating goblins

[Anonymous No.16621036]

>>16621027
>If you were raised in a normal family you would have never heard of this website.
Got introduced to this website on maplestory by my friend peter when I was in 7th grade. I come back every now and then when I'm lacking the social interaction that the body craves. And more recently to make fatties seethe

[Anonymous No.16621038]

>>16621030
>People shouldn't have to think about "eating healthy"
you're right they "shouldn't" but that is ignoring the food environment we live in where 90% of food in the market is laced with sugar and other potentially toxic garbage

[Anonymous No.16621051]

>>16620838
Lurker here but thought I'd come in to say that I think this is the same person going on this huge grand crusade against the keto diet.

I don't know what your problem is, but you're very clearly mentally ill and should seek help. no memes

[Anonymous No.16621054]

>>16621036
>lacks social interaction
If you had a normal family they wouldn't have let their son play gay games like maplestory and forced you to go outside and make irl friends.

[Anonymous No.16621059]

>>16621051
i'd guess its an angry vegetarian or vegan. the lack of any scientific evidence being posted should speak for itself. meanwhile...
"Nutritional Ketosis for the Management of Type 2 Diabetes...There was also resolution of diabetes (reversal, 53.5%; remission, 17.6%) in the CCI group but not in UC. All the reported improvements had p < 0.00012."
https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fendo.2019.00348/full
But no keto is bad ignore the current diabetes epidemic that continues to get worse.

[Anonymous No.16621067]

>>16621059
>i'd guess its an angry vegetarian or vegan.
This is misguided if true. Keto does not have to be high in animal foods. Animal foods are an easy way to get fat and protein but there are vegetarian or even vegan approaches to a higher fat, higher protein diet.

[Anonymous No.16621073]

>>16621054
>If you had a normal family they wouldn't have let their son play gay games like maplestory and forced you to go outside and make irl friends.
nice cope but that was literally 15 years ago. I wish I would've spent more time with them though growing up, video games are a cancer if you're brought up in a good family.
>>16621038
90% of food in the market is laced with sugar and other potentially toxic garbage
cook your own fucking food and you have 99% less to worry about.
>>16621051
Nah. Ketolards deserve the hate for being fatasses with no impulse control. It's not one person, I post here occasionally but see many people keeping up the good fight. Although I think I was the first to use the term Ketard.

[Anonymous No.16621164]

>>16621030
>it should just be a normal instinct if you weren't raised by shit eating goblins
most people were though. money matters more than health in current year

[Anonymous No.16621168]

>>16621073
>Diabetics deserve the hate for being idiots with no glycemic control.
>AIDS patients deserve the hate for being idiots with no cock control.
>Cancer patients deserve the hate for being idiots with no leukemia control.

[Anonymous No.16621171]

>>16620793
When you are set up for everything from wealth, class position and spouse by age 2 it's kind of hard to motivate yourself to fitness. Especially in the era of tech billionaires and doctors as heroes.

[Anonymous No.16621174]

>>16621171
>motivate yourself to fitness
exercise is not necessary for weight loss just fix up your food choices

[Anonymous No.16621178]

>>16621168
>things that are out of a persons control vs a fatty gorging themselves on food they choose to put in their body
what a fucking cope.
>>16621164
>money matters more than health in current year
no, it doesn't. Not to mention I spend like 1/2 the amount my normie friends spend on food because I know how to cook healthy meals at home.

[Anonymous No.16621181]

Imagine being such a worthless sedentary retard that you would ever worry about eating foods. Fucking millenials.

[Anonymous No.16621185]

>>16620810
I bet you take vitamins.

[Anonymous No.16621187]

>>16621178
its not in their control if you are giving them the wrong advice. not to mention the millions of people with diabetes who are normal weight or just barely "overweight." not every diabetic is 300+ pounds, in fact most aren't

[Anonymous No.16621192]

>>16621181
t. retard

[Anonymous No.16621197]

>>16620838
Most vegetable oil is heavily refined to the point where it's essentially a processed food. High quality minimally processed vegetable oil might be okay but the typical stuff you'll find in stores isn't great.

[Anonymous No.16621205]

>>16621197
>minimally processed vegetable oil
how would you actually know outside of just taking the manufacturers word for it?

[Anonymous No.16621206]

>>16620960
Watch out; he's touching your food, taking years off your life!

[Anonymous No.16621210]

>>16621187
>85 percent of diabetics are overweight
what's that now? Sorry you were fed an exclusive diet of processed grains and sugar. It's still well within your control to not eat like a human garbage truck all without relying on a meme diet to choose the """right""" foods for your body.

[Anonymous No.16621211]

>>16621206
difference is the white man has washed his hands after he shits. do you like cholera?

[Anonymous No.16621212]

>>16621210
>>85 percent of diabetics are overweight
why are you evading the millions of normal weight diabetics? are they gorging themselves too?

[Anonymous No.16621217]

>>16621210
>processed grains and sugar
this is exactly what is cut out on a ketogenic or lchf "meme" diet. not sure what your point is anymore honestly

[Anonymous No.16621222]

You can see exactly what the Indian guy is doing, he's cooking out in the open. I take it you've lived as a sheltered suburban american that's never worked back of the house at any place. You really thinks shit gets chucked here when it falls on the floor, behind closed doors?

[Anonymous No.16621223]

>>16621020
I think telling everyone you're high while shitposting destroyed your credibility, not one spelling error.

[Anonymous No.16621229]

>>16621211
You can see exactly what the Indian guy is doing, street food salesmen are cooking out in the open. I take it you've lived as a sheltered suburban american that's never worked back of the house at any place. You really thinks shit gets chucked here when it falls on the floor, behind closed doors?

[Anonymous No.16621232]

>>16621212
Sorry, the 2020 figures are actually 89%
>34.1 million adults aged 18 years or older—or 13.0% of all US adults—had diabetes
>this leaves 3,454,000 million americans with diabetes that don't fall into the overweight category
Do I care about the 11% that are probably type 1 diabetics? Sure, that sucks. Genetics suck.
Copers gotta cope

[Anonymous No.16621234]

>>16620945
Ok chud

[Anonymous No.16621264]

>>16621234
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RXOuzytkHGA&ab_channel=sput56

[Anonymous No.16621301]

>>16621073
Its never too late to spend time with your family.

>cook your own fucking food and you have 99% less to worry about.
Produce your own food and you have 100% to worry about since its next to fucking impossible to produce your own expeller pressed seed oils and refined flour from the ground up.
Pic rel was my dinner tonight. Everything except the salt and pepper was produced at home. Including the fat it was cooked in.
Delicioso

[Anonymous No.16621318]

>>16621301
>Its never too late to spend time with your family.
My mom died because my dad cheated on her and dissolved the whole family. Prior to his retarded midlife crises I wholeheartedly wished I could replicate my parents' marriage so I could raise halfway decent children.
I think it is too late anon.
>expeller pressed seed oils
those are the ones that are less bad since they don't use hexane in the extraction process desu.
But good on you for producing your own food, exceptionally based. I'm yearning to have ample garden space again.

[Anonymous No.16621329]

>>16621318
Wow so you didn't come from a normal family after all. Next time don't lie.

Expeller pressed are the seed oils soaked in hexane. You are thinking about cold pressed. Yearn for more than ample. If you don't have space now gruella garden and see if there are people with livestock in your shithole city. When I was living in a big city I would occasionally get eggs for chicken sitting. If you live in a suburb you are fucked though. They ordinate the ever living god damn shit out of that hellhole and your best bet is farming dog meat.

[Anonymous No.16621335]

>>16621178

dude if you care so much about public health go do something instead of feeling superior by dunking on strangers in an anonymous bhutanese soap carving forum

[Anonymous No.16621346]

>>16621206
>t.

[Anonymous No.16621348]

>>16621329
>Wow so you didn't come from a normal family after all. Next time don't lie.
I was 23 when my dad decided to go full retard. So yes, my family life growing up was normal.
>t. cityslicker by career choice
I've applied for community garden plots but I hear the waiting lists are long. My boomer landlord slabbed the whole backyard lol.
I lived in a hippy college city while in school and regulations and landlords were so lax that they just let whatever happen on the property so long as you didn't destroy the house. I miss growing endless crops in the backyard during the spring/summer.

[Anonymous No.16621358]

>>16620799
maybe not specifically from animals but cholesterol is essential for brain development and fetus development and vegan kids and pregnant women need to eat a shitload of avocados to be healthy. Avocados are a very destructive produce, and therefore veganism is bad for the earth. Get rekt liberals.

[Anonymous No.16621378]

>>16621348
clearly wasn't normal if these underlying issues were going on. It just had the charade of being normal and you didn't catch on for whatever reason. Thats fucked up and not normal.

Guerilla gardening means actually interacting with real people and taking real risks. Find a plot of land thats being ignored, maybe an overgrown abandoned lot, till it and seed it.
alternatively you can talk to home/buisness owners in the city and ask them if you can plant some crops on their lawn. But idk. I never tried it, it helped that the pet sitting gigs would be by rich assholes on summer vacation and their boomer tomatoes and peppers would be rotting on the vines and Id have permission to take them. But yeah, cities are awful and you should be ashamed for supporting their economy, fuck your soul crushing career and ditch it.

[Anonymous No.16621381]

There’s a specific poster in this thread that needs his meds. Now.
You that’s right, you. Get a life, have sex, dilate, etc

[Anonymous No.16621386]

>>16621358
There is no cholesterol in plant foods. This is why vegans shit all over cholesterol. If there was actual cholesterol in plant foods suddenly it wouldn't be Satan incarnate in the eyes of a vegan.

Avocado has fat though, which some vegans demonize anyways because they are all mentally starved and therefore not at peak sanity.

[Anonymous No.16621430]

>>16621386
cholesterol was demonized because of its supposed link to heart disease that never panned out. vegans just so happened to use the shitty "science" as propoganda
>>16621232
now add pre diabetes and you are at the majority of US adults. the only one coping here if YOU. ignoring millions of people getting type 2 diabetes without being overweight because you don't like the conclusions

[Anonymous No.16621445]

>>16621430
>ignoring millions of people getting type 2 diabetes without being overweight because you don't like the conclusions
all I'm saying is you don't have to go full keto to eat healthy on your own

[Anonymous No.16621476]

>>16621445
no but once you are getting diabetic and or obese ketogenic diets seem to be the most effective at returning people to optimal health. i think the diabetes case is more clear cut but it shouldn't be a diet that is pilloried at the very least

[Anonymous No.16621716]

>>16621168
>>Diabetics deserve the hate for being idiots with no glycemic control.
>>AIDS patients deserve the hate for being idiots with no cock control.
yes

[How do I give myself covid? No.16621798]

>>16621716
why'd you stop at cancer patients pussy?

[Anonymous No.16621826]

>>16620793
Indian food is vegetarian, not vegan, so they still have the worst animal products health-wise (dairy). And from what my Indian friend says, it's hard to avoid dairy there.

[Anonymous No.16621840]

>>16621798
because that was the only good point, retard

[How do I give myself covid? No.16621880]

>>16621840
more like a cope nigger

[Anonymous No.16621893]

>>16620793

[Anonymous No.16622030]

>>16621826
Pretty sure they are all sick because they are filthy and havent figured out the whole hand washing thing. Plus I noticed the more plants I eat the more I have to shit, so that might make them even sicker on a vegan diet. First fix the plumbing issue in India, then you can think about malnourishing them even more.

[Anonymous No.16622188]

>>16620838
Pretty sure it's about ratio of omega 3 : 6 overall. Consuming too much O6 drives inflammation and exacerbates toxicity of high blood sugar/insulin because the polyunsaturated fats are more oxidative, compared to mono- and saturated fat alternatives. I'm not saying french fries fried in beef tallow are much better - obviously any oil is less stable once heated and brought to smoke point.

I think general scientific consensus would be that a poor O3:6 ratio drives a lot of chronic health problems.

[Anonymous No.16622250]

>>16621301
>Produce your own food and you have 100% to worry about
So you shouldn't produce yourself?

[Anonymous No.16622268]

>>16622250
I meant you have 100% less to worry about. Please be gentle I have autism.

[Anonymous No.16622352]

>>16620834
Don't they use ghee?

[Anonymous No.16622360]

>>16620804
>there are things in meat the body needs you cannot get elsewhere.
What things? And what meats have the highest dosages of those things? It's liver isn't it?

[How do I give myself covid? No.16622457]

>>16622360
red meat, liver, kidney, spleen, fish. it depends what nutrient you are talking about but they are found in their most bio available forms in animal foods generally.

[Anonymous No.16622582]

>>16620793
Because meat is healthy

[Anonymous No.16622623]

>>16620793
Ruined genetic legacy.

And carbs on carbs on carbs.

[Anonymous No.16622632]

>>16620923
>>using "ngmi" outside of /fit/
>thinks ngmi is only used on /fit/

newfag and NGMI

[Anonymous No.16622638]

The mongols could steamroll villages because they made no fired and ate RAW MEEAT!

[Anonymous No.16624271]

Ghee'd out.

[Anonymous No.16624628]

>>16622638
mongoloids are 5'2 on average lmao fuck off zhang

[Anonymous No.16625427]

>>16620810
how many pills for widely available nutrients in animals sources have you popped today?

[Anonymous No.16625436]

>>16620793
they lack essential nutrients from meat and offal, also they literally eat shit, so they're constantly sick with diarrhea losing nutrients

[Anonymous No.16625444]

>>16621054
kids can do both y'know

[Anonymous No.16625449]

India taught the br*tish how to eat.