Is beer over and done with?

[Anonymous No.16592514]

Is craft beer dying? It feels like it is. No innovation after super fruited sours and hopped to hell ipas.

[Anonymous No.16592530]

>>16592514
We're almost done with our 2000's version of the Weimar period.

Homosexuals, corrupt governments and people will soon be culled. And we will have a return to normal again.

In other words, yes we will step back to superior simple lagers soon.

[Anonymous No.16592544]

>>16592530
Things are going to get much worse Anon.

[Anonymous No.16592548]

>>16592514
A centuries old drink doesn't require constant innovation.

[Anonymous No.16592568]

>>16592548
The last 10 years has probably been the most intense years in the drinks history for sure. Some good will come from it when all the bullshit fades.

[Anonymous No.16592595]

>>16592514
next wave will be radlers btw (mostly aimed at women to expand beer market share).

[Anonymous No.16592630]

Beer fucking sucks and is overrated as fuck, regardless of what type of beer it is

[Anonymous No.16592631]

>>16592595
Or Hard seltzers!

[Anonymous No.16592633]

>>16592595
Im thinking its going to be high quality, simple but delicious lagers, like>>16592530 says.
>>16592544
And then its going to be WWIII and rationed engine decreased.

[Anonymous No.16592658]

Stout gang rise up. It's not a real drink if you don't feel like you're drinking a full meal

[Anonymous No.16592677]

>>16592631
Brewers must be pissing themselves that American women will pay $10 a six pack for carbonated sugar wash.

[Anonymous No.16592695]

>>16592677
That they are, hence all these hard seltzers coming out of beer breweries.

[Anonymous No.16592708]

>>16592514
>No innovation
Who gives a fuck you baizou hipster the best beers are always traditional recipes anyway. Your dumb meme shit was never special.

[Anonymous No.16592712]

>>16592514
If anything the standardized 5% beer is what's killing it. Fuck burgers and their forced garbage.

[Anonymous No.16592713]

>>16592695
>corn for animal feed and some water left to ferment for a week in a giant vat plus some artificial flavoring
>but it’s low calorie and gluten free

[Anonymous No.16592717]

>>16592708
It really was special as it was abnormal. By literal definition.

[Anonymous No.16592724]

>>16592717
Faggots doing faggotry is as normal as it gets.

[Anonymous No.16592732]

>>16592713
>yeah just send that slightly alcoholic slip through the centrifuge and in-line carbonator and call it hard seltzer these dumb skanks will pay $1 an ounce for this shit

[Anonymous No.16592742]

Actually good stuff that came out of sours and all that.

[Anonymous No.16592801]

First time experiencing a fad in craft beer? Zoomers, man...

[Anonymous No.16592809]

>>16592530
>looking forward to your own execution
Why not just rope, anon?

[Anonymous No.16592820]

>>16592801
What fads have you seen before?

[Anonymous No.16592829]

>>16592514
I just drank an imperial maple raisin cinnamon stout @10% ABV, and it was actually both surprisingly good and well executed, but holy fuck I just want a beer. Please, just serve me a lager, a hefeweizen, some sort of pilsner, just a basic, nice, good to drink beer. This is just absent entirely from the market.

[Anonymous No.16592840]

>>16592742
looks like it was made by the kind of brainless douches that would make a unity indie walking simulator

[Anonymous No.16592841]

>>16592829
"Absent entirely from the market" is a bit dramatic.

[Anonymous No.16592859]

>>16592841
In the craft market it's not. Nobody can get the basics right because they jumped right in with "experimentation" that covers up their lack of knowledge and skill in the craft with an overabundance of nonsense.

[Anonymous No.16592867]

>>16592514
it's all about cigars these days

[Anonymous No.16592870]

>>16592840
What? Like Firewatch?

[Anonymous No.16592889]

>>16592841
Really? I end up paying craft prices for Paulaner of all things because there's nothing else even comparable. If there's a secret stash of Pilsner out there send some my way.

[Anonymous No.16592915]

>>16592820
Back when the west coast IPA first exploded, people were bemoaning that annoying not jammed with hops would be snuffed out. Lo and behold 10 years later, less bitter hazy ipas are storming the market alongside sugary pastry stouts and fruited sours. Hell, new england ipas were created as a backlash to west coast ipas. They were considered a breath of fresh air when they were first introduced and now they've taken west coast's place. It's only a matter of time until the market swings toward styles that backlash against the current fads, which could include going back to their roots and gravitating away from try-hard flavor bombs. We'll have to wait and see. When the west coast ipa was king, nobody would've guessed how popular a niche style that was relatively obscure even in its native Germany called "berliner weisse" would be here.

[Anonymous No.16592925]

>>16592889
>If there's a secret stash of [the most popular style of beer in the world by far] out there send some my way.
Yes, really. You're being dramatic.

[Anonymous No.16592928]

im so fucking sick of nothing but IPAs holy shit MAKE SOMETHING ELSE

[Anonymous No.16592934]

>>16592915
We are already passing that next state i guess as the breweries are putting out lagers en large now adhering to the reinheitsgebot.

[Anonymous No.16592993]

>>16592934
Yeah pretty much every brewery has a lager in its core range, so I don't know what anyone's complaining about. You know what I want to see more of that nobody makes? Rye lagers.

[Anonymous No.16593046]

>>16592925
>Hurr you can get Budweiser anywhere
You've completely missed the point.

[Anonymous No.16593081]

>>16593046
You can also get literal pilsner urquell anywhere, along with dozens of other beers copying it.

[Anonymous No.16593551]

>>16592514
i had some of those fruity sour beers once. one of the worst things i ever drank
maybe we need to stop looking for new stuff

[Anonymous No.16593636]

>>16592514
No it's becoming localized. Less people care about what's going on in x state and focus on what's near them

[Anonymous No.16593859]

>>16592530
Congratulations, this is the most cringe post I've seen on /ck/ all week (and that's a feat in 2021).

[Anonymous No.16594546]

Yes, both craft beer and macro beer are dying due to the popularity of hard seltzer.
Craft beer was healthier 5-10 years ago, now breweries are trimming their offerings and mainly just doing IPAs and other meme styles like fruited sours.

[Anonymous No.16594551]

>>16592993
Only older breweries tend to have a lager that's not an overly hopped pilsner.

[Anonymous No.16594555]

>>16592829
Agreed. I've been buying Budweiser and Coors Banquet lately, I have no interest in IPAs. They're okay to have 1 or 2 of but I like to drink a lot when I drink, so if I can't get a good craft lager or non-meme ale, I just go with BMC shit.

[Anonymous No.16594557]

>>16592915
There was more variety 10 years ago.
Even Sam Adams dropped its Boston Ale and Cream Stout

[Anonymous No.16594559]

>>16592732
A lot of men drink it too, it's killing beer's popularity.
Look at your local 7-11 or gas station, a whole 1/3 to 1/2 of the alcohol space is devoted to seltzer now.

[Anonymous No.16594562]

>>16592677
Not really, they're making seltzers themselves (possibly at the expense of focusing on their beers)

[Anonymous No.16594656]

>>16592530
it was another 10 years after Hitlers failed coup that Weimar fell. in other words you are stuck with the current paradigm for a while yet.

[Anonymous No.16594682]

>>16594546
>beer is dying because of hard seltzer
hugely overblown you are such a stupid little faggot. its like saying beer is dying because of the popularity of vodka cruisers. idiot wackjob.

[Anonymous No.16594689]

>>16593859
Yeah, it was the same for me. Until you posted.

[Anonymous No.16594692]

>>16594682
Wine coolers never killed off beer because they were too sugary to replace beer for most people
Seltzers are crushable and they're taking up more and more shelf space away from beer

[Anonymous No.16594695]

>>16594692
people say this about every gay fad. its OVER for beer and wine and liquor because of COOL NEW PRODUCT™ the kids are drinking!

kys yourself

[Anonymous No.16594699]

>>16594695
I don't remember the other gay fads taking away half of beer's shelf space
You're coping hard

[Anonymous No.16594703]

>>16594699
post a source for beer sales being reduced by half. new products get shelf space. doesnt last. we have seen it all before. youre a young faggot with ZERO knowledge of anything.

[Anonymous No.16594711]

>>16594703
I'm 26 and I remember shit like Four Loko and Joose. It did not take up nearly as much shelf space from beer.
I also don't remember bars and baseball stadiums selling that shit

[Anonymous No.16594715]

>>16594699
post a pic of your local liquor stores shelf space

[Anonymous No.16594723]

>>16594711
lmao it will literally just fade away like everything else. women and under 25s will carry on ordering seltzer just like they order cruisers and hard lemonades and other shit, which are the only things seltzer is genuinely competing with. seltzer has taken literally none of beers market share except for maybe hurting the bottom line of some faggy little microbrews. some things are simply fundamental.

[Anonymous No.16594746]

>>16594723
Beer was already declining for decades and seltzer's rise accelerated it

[Anonymous No.16594748]

>>16594746
whatever you say

[Anonymous No.16595107]

I love both AALs and craft beer

[Anonymous No.16595147]

Do you guys like Hamm's?

[Anonymous No.16595200]

>>16592514
Not really, Kveik is getting pushed all over the place, weird varieties of hops are starting to show up on order lists - a whole lot of floweriness, peach, mango and pineapple and a lot less grapefruit and cedar/pine. Beer really only does innovation every now and then - that there's been so much in the past few decades is going to put the industry in a bit of a slump while it fills in the gaps and blurs some more lines - there's still some exploration to be done with NEIPA and fruit sour ingredients and techniques, especially now that hops are being spliced, crossbred and back bred like ganja to bring out all kinds of funky smells and flavours.

>>16592530
>we will step back to... simple lagers soon
Nobody ever had to leave - most breweries have a lager, "lager", kolsch, or cream ale. The big guys still make their light, refreshing syrup lager. If you want a pilsner, grab a pilsner.

[Anonymous No.16595204]

>>16594723
(agreeing) If you're relying on a trend to make rent, you'll never own.

[Anonymous No.16595311]

>>16592514
This brewery has its recipes practically on the can.

[Anonymous No.16595380]

>>16593859
Don't forget that history repeats itself, tranny. Day of the rope soon. Might be earlier for you tho, lmao.

[Anonymous No.16595493]

I thought it was going to be meads turn. There has been an explosion of ciders in the last decade.

Wheres the mead love bros?

[Anonymous No.16595641]

>>16595493
shitty drink for autistic neckbeards to larp as vikings

[Anonymous No.16595771]

>>16592514
Wtf is wrong with zoomers? What is with this constant ADD-obessesion with 'innovation' and constant mind numbing change or 'newness' for the sake of change or novelty. It infects all facets of your culture, your social media consumption, your disposable entertainment, video games, fast fashion, three month food trends, memes appearing and gone within the blink of an eye. Why can you not appreciate what you have? Why must a new 'style' or 'scene' or 'movement' in beer be constantly tickling your dopamine-numbed brain? Can you just shut the fuck up?

[Anonymous No.16595794]

>>16595771
>What is with this constant ADD-obessesion with 'innovation' and constant mind numbing change or 'newness' for the sake of change or novelty.
you can pretty much blame it all on this cunt

[Anonymous No.16595806]

>>16592514
I expected the craft beer trend to come crashing down a few years ago, but it's been surprisingly resilient. That said, I think at some point a lot of these craft breweries will close. Ideally they'll be replaced by dive bars which are way more fun than craft breweries have ever been.

[Anonymous No.16596156]

>>16595311
I'd try it, but... man... that's a lot of lychees and pineapples watching limes fuck a pine forest.

[Anonymous No.16596164]

>>16595771
Gibson nailed it 35 years ago - "Fads swept the youth of the Spraw] at the speed of light; entire subcultures could rise overnight, thrive for a dozen weeks, and then vanish utterly."

[Anonymous No.16596285]

>I hate all these new choices!
Meanwhile you can get regular lagers anywhere but shitty overpriced bars and restaurants. I don't see the issue really.

[Anonymous No.16596297]

>>16596285
Exactly - just because there's a new trend doesn't mean other things stopped existing. Pale lager hasn't been a trend since the 1800's, except for that little blip of "Dry" lagers all the big guys were making in the 90's. They caught on, and now they're just beer - usually hanging out in the "Domestic" or "Beer-flavoured Beer" section at the local liquor store.

[Anonymous No.16596608]

>>16595380
Sir, this is a discussion about beer.

[Anonymous No.16596614]

>>16595806
I think the brewing industry will normalize to where not every brewery is trying to be the next Sierra Nevada. Wherever you go, no matter how podunk the area, there's at least one brewery making something local. They might never distribute beyond the tri-county area and that'll be okay.

[Anonymous No.16596636]

>>16592530
Nice cope. You might want to look back into history books to see what's different.
* Germany was ethnically and culturally homogenous, USA is not
* Weimar lasted only a decade, whereas global liberalism has dominated for 75 years
* Adolf actually had popular support, modern-day right wing cringelords do not.
* Post-revolution, Adolf had a homogenous population he could muster that only spent a decade under the Weimar ideology. You will never have this because it's been the norm for almost a century and the US is only 50% white.

It's over for lagers. It's IPAs and fruity beers from here on out.

[Anonymous No.16596693]

>>16592859
>>16592841
>>16592829
you must live in a stale market, where I live I'd say I have access to about 15 good pilsners from various breweries, of czech and german style, lagers as well, though to be fair the lower mainland BC is just an absolute mecca of craft beer

[Anonymous No.16596736]

>>16592742
>yummy imperial pastry sour ale

[Anonymous No.16596804]

>>16592514
Beer is dead. Long live cider!

[Anonymous No.16596919]

>>16592514
>Is craft beer dying
We can only hope

[Anonymous No.16596926]

>>16592742
That looks so gay that I would refuse to drink it

[Anonymous No.16597636]

>>16594692
Wait, these are two different things?
I thought it was just a marketing rebranding.

[Anonymous No.16597641]

>>16595641
Exactly. It's guarenteed to catch on.

[Anonymous No.16597679]

>>16594723
I have completely stopped drinking beer and replaced it with hard seltzer. Got about the same abv as a low-strength beer and i don't get a quarter of the hangover from it. Can crush cans all night and wake up right as rain in the morning. No question.

[Anonymous No.16597695]

>>16596636
>Adolf actually had popular support, modern-day right wing cringelords do not.
Then how did Trump win in 2016, my doesn't-know-how-to-greentext cringefriend?

[Anonymous No.16598545]

>>16592514

Everyone’s getting sick of being a fatass. Being skinny and food/drink being “solved” (in alcohols case just having a vodka soda lime or martini) is the new thing.

[Anonymous No.16598644]

>>16597695
Perfect storm of Republicans protest-voting to make a statement to the RNC and far left Dems who assumed Clinton's presidency was in the bag and stayed home so they could say "hey, I didn't vote for her" whenever they criticize her neolib policy-making. That's literally the reason.

[Anonymous No.16598881]

>>16592514
Maybe the craft folks will start making good beer, like stouts, barley wines, rauchbier and english session ales.

[Anonymous No.16598945]

Local hazy IPA, packaged and canned 5 days ago.

When it's that fresh, nothing can beat it. It coats your whole tongue with a nice balance of citrus, pine, and grapefruit.

[Anonymous No.16598983]

>>16598945
hazy and double/triple IPAs are the only way I really enjoy IPAs.

[Anonymous No.16599019]

>>16598983
The two styles I usually buy are pilsners and heavy IPAs. Pilsner is clean and refreshing, IPAs are flavorful and get you drunk quick. That's about all you need.

[Anonymous No.16599033]

>>16599019
nah you need english or scotch ales to get that malt flavor, and stouts and porters for dark, and belgian doubles/bier de garde, and barleywine, yeah a lot of beer is good

[Anonymous No.16599086]

>>16592658
My gentleman of color.

[Anonymous No.16599102]

>>16592530
Take meds and vaxx

[Anonymous No.16599113]

>>16595806
craft beer is declining though. And existing breweries are trimming their beer offerings and expanding seltzer

[Anonymous No.16599120]

>>16596285
there are less choices now than when I was really into craft beer 4/5 years ago.

[Anonymous No.16599123]

>>16597636
Wine coolers are very sweet, seltzers are supposed to be like regular seltzers but with alcohol

[Anonymous No.16599137]

>>16599113
not where I live, maybe big breweries, but seltzer is already condensed down to a few brands and new entries simply can't compete for marketshare

[Anonymous No.16599139]

>>16599137
There's White Claw, Truly, Bon Viv, Corona, Bud Light, etc. in the seltzer field
It's only getting bigger

[Anonymous No.16599141]

>>16599033
The next fad will be homebrew and it will last until society is rebuilt from the ruins

[Anonymous No.16599143]

>>16599139
yeah and if you actually look at the market, many of them are losing marketshare and only the big boys like white claw and truly are making it.

[Anonymous No.16599145]

>>16599143
But beer overall (both macro and craft) is still declining

[Anonymous No.16599155]

>>16599145
seltzer, flavor and complexity wise, cannot replace most beer, and will not for most people. it will only replace shitty adjunct lager for being able to drink 10 of them without feeling bloated.

[Anonymous No.16599160]

>>16599155
The three most popular beers in the US are Bud Light, Coors Light, and Miller Lite.

[Anonymous No.16599167]

>>16599160
yes, and some of those might be less popular, but seltzer is just spiked flavored soda water and will never replace beer, even if it takes market share from bud and coors.

[Anonymous No.16599196]

>>16599167
Craft beer is declining too.
And people generally get into craft beer after drinking macros.
Nobody is going to go from being a seltzer drinking zoomer to an IPA aficianado.

[Anonymous No.16599390]

>>16598644
And Hitler came to power through internal politicking as the Nazis were only ever able to get a plurality in the Reichstag, what's your point?

>>16599196
And the hard seltzer market has stagnated with most analysts expecting it to decline as well. The current fast growers in the alcohol industry are whiskey (fueled by foreign demand), tequila, ready-to-drink cocktails, and a resurgence of flavored malt beverages/alcopops.

[Anonymous No.16599420]

>>16599390
So beer still doesn't win here

[Anonymous No.16599423]

>>16592530
The absolute state of incels

[Anonymous No.16599528]

>>16599120
Note how I said "new" not "more" choices. Regardless you can find plain lagers virtually anywhere.

[Anonymous No.16599595]

>>16592514
the only thing you will ever need is belgian ales

[Anonymous No.16599615]

>>16592742
At that point just drink smoothies. Cheaper and better for your health

[Anonymous No.16600026]

>>16592742
what the actual fuck is this

[Anonymous No.16600028]

>>16592742
Looks like my wife would like this

[Anonymous No.16600593]

>>16592530
>superior simple lagers
The absolute gall of a foreigner like you talking about the Weimar period being bad
I do not want you on my ENGLISH language imageboard
REAL ALE TIL THE DAY I DIE

[Anonymous No.16600639]

>>16592708
it's baizuo you stupid fuck
literally just white left

[Anonymous No.16601014]

>>16592658
>man, pecan pie? What kinda pretentious American wankery is this?
>it tastes and feels like an actual pecan pie
Ameribros...I kneel

[Anonymous No.16601054]

>>16592530
Yet another spastic polcel bringing his retardation to other boards. Go back to where you came from.

[Anonymous No.16601064]

>>16600593
It was bad enough to lead to majority support for the Nazi party

[Anonymous No.16601072]

>>16599390
>what's your point?
I was explaining how Trump got elected without having majority support by the American people. Even with all those factors I mentioned, he still lost the popular vote by millions kek

[Anonymous No.16601099]

>>16601064
>It was bad enough
Yes, economically. In terms of factors that made Nazi rhetoric appealing to Germans, moral panic ranked pretty much dead last behind more pressing matters like the fact that Germany was still reeling from being disassembled, economically crippled, and vilified after WWI just for the great depression to hit a decade later. With all of the cataclysmic events sending Germany into economic and political disarray, you'd have to be a special kind of autist to think "Yeah but the REAL problem was those damn drag clubs in Berlin!"

[Anonymous No.16601113]

>>16601099
>With all of the cataclysmic events sending Germany into economic and political disarray, you'd have to be a special kind of autist to think "Yeah but the REAL problem was those damn drag clubs in Berlin!"
They sure didn't help

[Anonymous No.16601135]

>>16601064
I'm saying you're a filthy fucking foreigner so you better tread lightly because if we ever go Nazi it'll be you lager drinkers who fill the mass graves first.

[Anonymous No.16601137]

>>16601113
They hardly did anything in the grand scheme of things, that community was so extremely niche. Fascism still would've taken hold in Germany even if homosexuality carried the death penalty at the time. It wouldn't have if the German economy was booming and stable but Berlin still had its LGBT scene. Every single time you /pol/fags open your mouths about this particular period in time you supposedly worship, you just expose how little you actually know about it.

[Anonymous No.16601140]

>>16601113
No, he's right, most people didn't give a fuck about that. They cared about the Communists. They were terrified of them.
>>16601137
Reminds me of all the crusader memes showing a knight wearing a helmet which was absolutely not invented at the time

[Anonymous No.16601145]

>>16601137
>You just expose how little you've been indoctrinated
Ftfy

[Anonymous No.16601209]

>>16601137
All the gay decadence and lack of moral fiber and nationalist sentiment is what caused the economic decline in the first place

[Anonymous No.16601245]

>>16601209
>Germany would've won WWI and prevented the great depression if they weren't too busy having gay sex
Interesting thesis, professor. I eagerly await this paradigm-shattering dissertation.

[Anonymous No.16601381]

>>16601209
>>16601245
>truth is, the german empire was gay from the start

[Anonymous No.16601433]

>>16597695
>>16599390
>Trump is Hitler
you're dumber than a biden voter