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16582567 No.16582567 [Reply] [Original]

why is this legal in america

>> No.16582575

>>16582567
Why do Americans put corn syrup in everything?

>> No.16582580

>>16582567
Even your ketchup is fat

>> No.16582583

>>16582567
>generic terms
>generic categories

Stupid bongs, even your attempt to copy is halfassed

>> No.16582585

>>16582575
it's cheaper than beet sugar. i don't think it makes much of a difference nutritionally. people tried to blame corn syrup for everything but consuming 80g of beet sugar every day wouldn't be healthy either.

>> No.16582630
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>>16582575
It's all profit driven. The corn industry in America is a huge, billion dollar business. Several US states plant miles and miles of corn. Farmers, truck drivers, restaurants, fuel companies, I mean you name it. It's a huge industry.

Ever since corn syrup was invented and popularized after WW2, the corn industry has spent millions of dollars in Washington sending lobbyists to convince senators and the American public to put corn syrup in everything. Soft drinks, candy; it didn't matter, they wanted corn syrup in everything. Even after studdies revealed that it does nothing but make us fatter and fatter; everything is sacraficed in the name of the all mighty dollar.

"Why do Americans put corn syrup in everything" and "Why are over 30% of Americans obese" have the same answer: "we did it to ourselves to make more money". You'll find that answer works a lot in the questions in the vein of "why is America so dog shit nowadays".

https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2011/04/food-lobbying-in-action-the-corn-syrup-crusaders/237391/

>> No.16582638

>>16582575
corn is grown cheaply in america, sugarcane is not.

>> No.16582639

>>16582567
is the joke that they have the exact same ingredients and UK labelling standards are different and use different terms?

>> No.16582641

>>16582575
keeps the cattle (human) docile.

>> No.16582653

>>16582638
why tho?

>> No.16582686

>>16582630
If Americans were consuming an equal amount of another type of sugar it wouldn't be any better though. I think the issue is how much soda Americans drink which fucks up their perception of taste and then food companies have to add more sugar to everything else so people won't think it tastes bad. Those people who drink a lot of soda can't detect natural sweetness in things like fruits or vegetables. They'll say they don't even want to drink water because they think it tastes bad since they're used to drinking soda all the time.

>> No.16582712

>>16582653
sugarcane is more labor intensive, corn production is easily mechanized. Labor in the U.S. is expensive compared to many other countries. The government imposes tariffs on sugar imports to protect the sugarcane farmers that do exist in the U.S. Combined with all the subsidies that corn gets, it ends up being cheaper to sweeten stuff with corn syrup.

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>>16582686
>If Americans were consuming an equal amount of another type of sugar it wouldn't be any better though

We didn't used to be, that's the point. Americans weren't obese in the early 20th century. This shit only happened after WWII. Sugar costs way more than corn syrup; Americans willingly gave up sugar to have more corn syrup in their diets. Why pay a dollar per can of coke if you can pay a dollar and get 4, only with corn syrup instead of sugar. Once it was explained to Americans that they could have more food for less money, the rest didn't matter. We were bound to get fat after that. This is just how shit is in America; literally everything, even our own health, comes after money. The corn industry would much rather 100% of the population be obese; that would mean we're all eating more corn syrup. You wouldn't understand as a European or whatever.

>> No.16582786

>>16582567
Because big nose tribe

>> No.16582826

>>16582567
Blame the corporations. Fuck em' fuck them to hell

>> No.16582849

>>16582567
>only difference is where the sugar comes from
The horror.

>> No.16582873

>>16582653
>why tho?
Climate. Plants require certain conditions -- temperature, rainfall, soil quality -- to grow. Corn can be grown from North Dakota to Oklahoma over to Ohio. Sugarcane can be grown in a few counties in Florida, Louisiana, and Texas.

>> No.16582913

fell off the soda wagon again bros...gained 10lb in a week
fucking kill me

>> No.16582939

>>16582567
The UK and USA have different requirements for what they need to list. The UK doesn't have to list some of the specifics.

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>>16582630
It's also the reason we have so much soy in our products and why it was being pushed like fucking mad in the early 2000s. Soy supplies the nitrogen that corn needs so it's rotated in every couple of years. That leaves growers with a fuckload of soy. They started pushing it on manufacturers and lobbying the government for support.

>> No.16583015

>>16582567
i always figured people had a shit taste when shittalking Heinz but then i've learned that America has completely different products to europeans.

>> No.16583020

>>16582575
Corn subsidies. Same reason why corn-fed meat is cheap here but grass-fed/foraging meat costs an arm and a leg.

>> No.16583023

>>16582723
Yeah I guess it doesn't make much sense for subsidies to be used to make junk food cheaper because then you're less likely to see it as an occasional treat. I think it's been a wake up call recently since the majority of people in the hospital with serious problems from covid were obese and healthier people didn't have nearly as many problems dealing with it. I hope we can get this shit under control soon because bad diets are killing so many people now.

>> No.16583030

>>16582638
>>16582712
>>16582873
We also have quotas on imported sugar to keep the growers in Hawaii and Florida happy.

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16583032

>>16582567

Fake news, the Heinz "Simply" version is widely available in supermarkets.

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16583044

>tomatoes, sugar, vinegar, salt and seasonings
huntsbros...we stay winnin

>> No.16583045

>>16582567
The only difference is corn syrup, everything else is identical but the US label requires calling out more specific ingredients and terms whereas the UK lets companies get away with shit like "spice and herb extracts" as catch-all terms. You really think they're using whole tomatoes and not concentrate? Absurd. UK and EU ingredient labels are actually fucking horrible for informing consumers what's actually in the food and over-generalizing so many things leads people to not even knowing what they're actually eating.

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>>16583045
>You really think they're using whole tomatoes and not concentrate?

Tomatoes don't even grow in Mordor; what would a bong know about New World produce?

>> No.16583082

>>16583074
kek

>> No.16583108

>>16582567
The "sugar" in the UK version is just a blanket term for all types of corn and rice syrup that they use.

>> No.16583124

>>16582567
>why is this legal in america
because we do whatever we want