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16575109 No.16575109[DELETED]  [Reply] [Original]

Why the fuck are they pushing plant food so hard now?

>> No.16575126

>>16575109
It's trendy and gets people to spend more money because it makes them feel good. That's literally it.
It's like banning plastic straws. Does it do anything? No. Does it make people feel like they're making a difference without actually having to change anything about their coonsoomerism? Yes

>> No.16575129

wow, plant based french fries. who could imagine?

>> No.16575134

>>16575109
Companies that develop a product spend money on advertisement to influence potential costumers into purchasing their product

Plant food already has an customer base, vegans and people that don't like some aspect or other of industrial meat farming, but investing on expanding to other types of people makes sense.

>> No.16575138

>>16575126
>people want to pay MORE to eat fucking veggies than regular meat

>> No.16575142

>>16575129
Maccas fries contain dairy and they used to be fried in beef tallow.

>> No.16575145

>>16575129
beef is gluten free :)

>> No.16575152 [DELETED] 

>stop eating like your parents
fucking kikes just cant help but try to turn you against your kin

>> No.16575157

>>16575109
The communist bastards want to sell their product and make profit.

>> No.16575160

>>16575138
These people believe they're helping launch an industry that will later become more affordable as their purchase funds further research into improving the product they want, aka, tasty shit that doesn't involve millions methane farts.

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>>16575152
some people do it voluntarily

>> No.16575170

>>16575160
Nah. This is classic Silicon Valley venture capitalist shit. The price will never get lower. And they're definitely not doing it to create a more sustainable food system. It's only about making money.

>> No.16575172

>>16575109
The thing I don't get... if you love veggies so much then why would you still crave a burger or some chicken to the point of manipulating vegetables into some weird zombie semblance. I've never gotten an honest answer to this.

>> No.16575176

>>16575109
Soy filler was vilified, however marketing geniuses figured out they can just sell the filler and mark it up for yuuuge profits.

>> No.16575178 [DELETED] 

it gives the illusion of choice while (((they))) make the same profit

>> No.16575187

>>16575172
The question makes no sense and can only come from an insipid mind. I'm not sure how to phrase a response that your underused braincells could latch on to.

>> No.16575193

>>16575170
By "these people" I meant the consumers paying a lot for mediocre tasting approximations, not those producing them.

>>16575172
They don't dislike the taste of meat, they dislike the idea of hurting a living animal, the ethical concerns around industrial farming, the ecological impact, etc. They most likely grew up eating meat, still crave it, and don't eat it out of whatever reason, so they search other ways to fulfill those cravings.

>> No.16575202

>>16575172
I'm not vegan or vegetarian, but I'll try these plant-based foods on occasion.
The idea is to have non-vegetarians/vegans more open to the idea of replacing meat in their meal here and there.

>> No.16575208

maybe it tastes good? idk

>> No.16575216

>>16575129
how??

>> No.16575260 [DELETED] 

>>16575202
>replacing meat in their meal here and there
Why? Just eat meat. We're designed by millions of years of evolution to eat both.

>>16575187
>>16575193
Faggot vegans and/or (((bug eaters))) detected.

>> No.16575266

>>16575109
they're going after kids

>> No.16575278

>>16575260
Variety is the spice of life, but go on, based exclusive carnivore that makes exceptions for potatoes chad.

>> No.16575282

>>16575109
I don't eat like my parents.
My parents were uptight suburbanites who eat processed shit and go out to eat all the time and throw out 75% of what they buy. They lust after "healthy" food without even knowing what that means. They only define healthy by what they have been told is healthy.
Meanwhile I produce about 60% of my own food, another 20% is from local farms, Can easily up that to 30% next year. If there was an emergency I could be self sufficient. I don't give a fuck about what is and isn't healthy, it's more important that I have a personal connection with what I put in my body. Eventually this will extend to my clothing/medicine/hygiene. I'm not anti vax but I do think our current system of hyperconsumerism and technophilia is fucking up humanity. Fuck commies, fuck fascists, fuck capitalists.

And fuck vegans too.

>> No.16575290

>>16575282
Ok but who asked

>> No.16575294

>>16575278
I suppose. My sister in law is a veggie and I love the stuff she makes, but I'd be lying if I said I didn't cruise into a drivethru on my way home to get a basic cheeseburger most of the time.

>> No.16575296

>>16575260
this >>16575278
People that talk like you are usually mentally toddlers. It's really sad. Just stick to your overcooked porkchops and if you eat 2 of your boiled brussels sprouts your fat hog of a wife will 2/10 blowjob after dinner while watching Masked Singer. But you don't know it's bad. You started dating her in high school and she's the only girl you've been with.

>> No.16575303

>>16575109
Joke's on them, my parents are vegetarian so I'm following that advice by eating beef daily.

>> No.16575306

>>16575296
That is an awful lot of projection. I'm sorry those things happened to you, anon.

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>>16575306

>> No.16575339

>>16575315
Oh a wojack... surely the sign of the victor and not the one sucking copium.

>> No.16575358

>>16575306
It doesn't sound like projection anon, sounds like he read ya like an open book. Sorry about your shitty podunk life

>> No.16575418

>>16575290
OPs pic.

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>>16575358
Oh, okay. I'm going to keep eating steak.

>> No.16575445

>>16575296
Subbing out meat is cringe, but my god nigger, you need fucking help. Break up with that wife man, you've got a few years left to live.

>> No.16575455

bunch of rich assholes think they an save the world coupled by other rich assholes fucking up economics and trade policies
>we can't afford beef from south america because we don't produce anything anymore
so the wealthy will fly on jets, live on yachts, eat steak, and you'll eat the fucking bug burger faggot.

also for some reason if your ex gave you herpes or you someday have a kid who murders someone there's no reason your manager at the bug plant can't pull that up in your file with your social ranking score.

that's why. fuck these people and fuck lab grown "meat".

>> No.16575465

>>16575126
plastic straws are gay and also straws in general are kinda gay

>> No.16575589

>>16575157
>communist
>sell their product and make profit
is this the joke? did I get the joke?

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16575609

>>16575161
>nursing licence
>thinks the luciferase in the vaccine is related the devil
Fucking hell, only etymologically.

>> No.16575677

>>16575609
>only etymologically
It's no coincidence. Those in charge love leaving little hints because they think they're too slick to get noticed. They're laughing right in your face and you can't even see it.

>> No.16575683 [DELETED] 

>>16575465
so says the retired dick sucker

>> No.16575784

>>16575109
If they want us to eat plants, why do they try so hard in making them look like meat?

>> No.16575818

>>16575609
Not even etymologically. Lucifer isn't Satan. That's just a common misunderstanding.

>> No.16575840

>>16575109
Soy fields. A long time back faggot and gamble pushed it as the healthy (profitable) alternatives for cooking oil and candles for lighting. Then along came modernity and they've had to push propaganda.to sell all their soy fields.

>> No.16575944

>>16575126
>banning plastic straws.

I hate this so fucking much. Paper straws are objectively terrible.

>> No.16575950

>>16575109
It's so much more profitable to big grain to have a direct field-to-table control and ownership of the agricultural process. Large corporate farms, farming as a diversified wealth measure for the ultra elite, this is all old news. Now they're using their political clout to introduce meatless substitutes into the food supply, not because it's healthier, but because it's TWENTY TIMES MORE PROFITABLE.

It's also about control, these kinds of hyper processed pseudo-meats are not good for you. Vegetarians and vegans rarely even bother with them. Make no mistake, they're signaling to you, the meat eater, that in the future meat will be much more expensive, if you are even allowed to obtain it at all. But they are thinking of your morale, so these products will be offered instead.

It's one reason how you can tell that Satan somehow won both world wars, too. It's all leading to this and more. Now GO BACK TO YOUR POD.

>> No.16575999

The profit margins are way bigger on pea slurry patties than hamburger

The other shit barely even matters. If they can sell legumes for the same price as beef, they'll make money

>> No.16576010

>>16575109
Don't be a conspiracy theorist.

Right now plant based foods are in vogue because there is a general movement away from unsustainable/expensive/unethical products, and considering fast food companies are heavily associated with all of those, they are extremely glad to try to rebrand themselves for the changing moment.

>> No.16576129

>>16576010
>there is a general movement away from unsustainable/expensive/unethical products
nobody has shown that meat is unethical or even expensive, it can be raised on areas which are largely unfit for any agricultural purpose, take sheep for example

anyhow the move isn't "social" it's entirely artificial and top-down, corporate / government revolving door interests want the peasants on the fake meat

it's a conspiracy fact, it's not even secret

>> No.16576139

>>16575142
afaik they still have beef flavouring

>> No.16576145

>>16575109
>fuck you dad I’ll do what I want!
Vegans are so ducking anoying

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>>16576129
Veganiggers don't care about reality, only about image and aesthetics. Spending vast resources on soy slop that tastes like shitty beef is 100% justifiable in their mind because it has a picture of a leaf on the package and makes them feel good.

>> No.16576179

>>16576129
what are you even talking about? you're fucking crazy.

meat obviously consumes more resources, and there is the suffering of the animal to think about.

I'm a chef and a doomer, I don't really give a shit, I eat meat with every meal. But I'm just trying to explain the phenomenon to someone who might not get it.

>> No.16576197

>>16575109
>The daughters will do degrading porno to get back at their parents
>The sons will eat plant based burgers to get back at their parents

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16576236

>>16575109
I prefer cultured meats

IE lab grown REAL MEAT

>> No.16576244

>>16575160
>prices
>going down
The only thing going down is my casket into the ground

>> No.16576251

>>16575157
>>16575134
When that marketing is using guilt, fear, shame and nonsense it needs to be checked by regulation.

>>16575172
>>16575134
There is an ENTIRE PLANET of cuisine that doesn't use any meat, but they ONLY market fake meat. There's only one motivation that fully explains that. It's not for vegans. It's to "convert" normal people into accepting a lower quality of life for ideological reasons.

>>16575202
>>16575278
>>16575296
Yes, retarded vegans like you are extremely condescending and think non-vegans have never even tried vegetables or eaten a meal without meat in it once in their lives. That's one of the reasons you are hated

>>16576010
The phrase conspiracy theorist was invented to ostracize critics with valid complaints and questions that made the US Government uncomfortable.

You're using it exactly like that, and I didn't read the rest of your comment as a result

>> No.16576269

>>16575109
luckly at my flyover state, this fake meat shit often see on sale cause nobody ain't buying it but you have to be an extra bit of stupid of buying soy protien which is already cheap meat filler at prices 2-3x the price of regular meat

>> No.16576281

>>16575216
I believe they use this obscure plant known as the potato

>> No.16576288

If the only way you're eating vegetarian food is by disguising it as meat, on some level you're doing it wrong that I can't put into words. I eat meat, but when I have vegetarian meals like the chickpea coconut curry I had tonight, I don't try to make it look or taste like meat because that defeats the point. Vegetables should taste good on their own.

>> No.16576290

>>16575109
Jews

>> No.16576309

>>16576179
>meat obviously consumes more resources
OMG not the hecking grass and water!

Take your meds. NOW.

>> No.16576313

>>16575109
Because you need meat to build proper bone and meat structure, maintain a healthy hormone balance, and maintain the chemical balances in your brain that make you a rational logical adult.
(((They))) want you weak, low-test, infertile, and mentally stunted because it makes you easier to control.

>> No.16576322

>>16576236
It's an interesting idea but test tube meat isn't moving anywhere fast enough in terms of the technology

>>16576251
>The phrase conspiracy theorist was invented to ostracize critics with valid complaints and questions that made the US Government uncomfortable.
Except every source that claims this ignores that there are documents using the phrase going back literally centuries before the claim states that the government created it. I've read Concerning Criticism of the Warren Report which is what everyone uses as their proof and it completely ignores that "conspiracy theorist" existed as a phrase in the fucking 1600s before the US government even was a thing.

>> No.16576336

>>16576309
a huge amount of land, water, and labor is spent on growing crops just to feed meat and dairy livestock, on top of the space they take up themselves. you gotta be trolling dude, ain't nobody this dumb. have you never heard of factory farming or what? do you live in a city? are you amish? what kinda weird bubble are you in?

>> No.16576388

>>16575589
He’s mocking the ‘chuds’ who say that unironically. Of course, it’s poisoning the well because communists openly state they have no issue with using capitalist systems to advance the cause of communism. As Marx put it, “the capitalists shall sell us the rope with which we shall hang them.”

>> No.16576399

>>16575126
God the paper straw shit is so awful I literally will not eat anywhere that has that shit. Feels terrible in your mouth, nails on chalkboard tier. Why don’t they just make the lids paper instead. Fucking retards

>> No.16576416

>>16575109
Stop liking your parents, goyim! Listen to us, we will tell you what to do!

>> No.16576432

>>16576336
>land
Livestock is primarily raised on land unfit for crops. You think you’ve figured out some secret that the people who have devoted their lives to this for generations haven’t? They wouldn’t waste prime cropland to raising livestock if it wasn’t more profitable to do so.
>water
Learn the water cycle, like every 4th grader does.
>labour
Livestock takes less effort than crops. You’re exposing your commie leanings by using this angle, btw
>crops to feed livestock
Livestock are generally fed the leftovers from human food production, the stuff that isn’t fit for human consumption. Corn husks and corn cobs being the primary food source for livestock. It’s a beautiful example of recycling things that would otherwise go to waste, you CHUD.
>factory farming
What about it? What would you call the widespread production of crops, if not also factory farming?

Just admit you haven’t researched this and only are vaguely aware of a few buzzword bulletpoints you got off some blog.

>> No.16576450

>>16576336
>we're spending precious resources by allowing agriculture and animal husbandry
>instead let's burn down the remaining rain forests so we can have more soy!

>> No.16576491

>>16576290
this

>> No.16576500

>>16575109
>I have daddy issues, that means everyone else does too!

Why are vegans like this?

>> No.16576511

>>16576432
why are you responding like you've been attacked?

>> No.16576559
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>>16576010
It's not just a flash in the pan.
We're going to be moving away from meat over the next 10-20 years. This is very real and it is just warming up.
Every agency which could care less about food logistics is screaming that our current ways are completely unsustainable. Only some people are making this political because they are retards.
Have you noticed that the government is building solar and wind farms everywhere. And we're making electric cars and recycling everything. Or is that just a fashion statement in your mind as well.
You are going to be eating the bugs. Unless you rear and slaughter your own animals, meat is going to be a thing of the past by the end of the century. We simply have too many people and not enough livestock.
Enjoy meat while you can get it. It's going to be gone soon. Or too expensive for you to afford.

>> No.16576560

>>16576511
>gets BTFO’d
>deflects with concerntrolling
I accept your concession

>> No.16576563

>>16576236
it’s all ground meat… i want a lab grown filet

>> No.16576582

>>16575109
Because all of our mass communications are monopolized by people that want to completely destroy the U.S., and to do that you have to destroy the culture.

And they have...

>> No.16576593

>>16576560
no, you're saying a bunch of wrong bullshit and acting like we're arguing.
>I accept your concession
god I hate this gay Debate Master way of posting

>> No.16576606

>>16576593
You rattled off unsubstantiated garbage, I explained to you in detail why you wrong. Cope, nigger.