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Christians are forbidden to consume blood (Acts 15). Can they in good conscience order steaks that aren't well done?

>> No.16507430

>>16507428
Yes because that's myoglobin and water, not blood

>> No.16507432

>>16507428
Most of that isn't blood though. And even if cooked well done, there will be traces of red blood cells that have been cooked.

>> No.16507435

"Christians" do a lot of shit that's "forbidden".

Doesn't matter what you do, though. As long as you believe in god, you're fine. That's all it takes.

>> No.16507440

>>16507435
Also you have to hate people that God made homosexual, even though the text doesn't say that anywhere unless you twist the words a little.

>> No.16507442

>>16507435
Exactly. By law we are condemned. By Christ's blood we are saved.

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>>16507440
God didn't make anyone homosexual. They made themselves gay through their hatred of God. Stop watching 2007 AtheistTubers.

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>>16507448
>>16507442
>>16507440
Queers hate God
God says it's OK to hate those that hate God
Therefore, it's OK to hate queers

>> No.16507453

>>16507448
>God didn't make anyone homosexual.
But god made everything. So, by default, it was also him who made you gay.

>> No.16507468

>>16507448
All about unmitigated fornication, nothing to do with a loving monogamous homosexual relationship. Unmitigated fornication is the golden standard for both heteros and homos these days. You're fighting the wrong battle.

>> No.16507471

>>16507428
That's not blood you absolute fucksicle.

>> No.16507474

>>16507453
>>16507468
Keep telling yourselves that, faggots.
You're going to burn in hell.

>> No.16507482

>>16507474
So, how about a counter argument instead? No? Well, color me surprised.

>> No.16507509

>>16507482
Your counter-argument is that you should be stoned for sodomy and heresy.

>> No.16508729

>>16507448
Jesus commanded you to AGAPE your enemies, hypocrite.

>> No.16508750

>>16507430
This. if you were a bronze age sand nigger you would know this because blood was often used as an ingredient. hell it still is in things like blood sausage.

but instead you're a pseudo-intellectual white kid who thinks he GOTTEMM with less than 2 minutes of effort.

>> No.16508791

There's all kinds of retarded shit in the old testament, like not eating shellfish and fucking bitches on their period

>> No.16508850

>>16508791
Still part of the bible

>> No.16508857

>>16508850
jews still wont eat pork but christians do. debatable there are just as many, if not more, historical reasons for this as biblical.

>> No.16508863

>>16508850
So is the part where Jesus says that the old commandments are redundant

>> No.16508866

>>16507430
FPBP and /thread

>> No.16508871

>>16508850
Yes, you also need to keep in mind the living conditions at the time/setting. Those commandments were specific to the Israelites so that they would be different from other nations; freeing their slaves, not partaking in child sacrifice.
The same way I don't use the commandments as the basis of my life (but as possible guidelines), I don't try and institute what Paul wrote in his letters to the various churches if those are not issues in my life/local church.

>> No.16508876

>>16507428
No, jews are forbidden, Christians are absolutely fine, don’t you know your Old vs New?

>> No.16508886

>>16507428
what about jesus's wine blood?

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when will you conservalarping fucks finally fuck off

>> No.16508894

>>16507428
>He doesn't know about the eucharist

>> No.16508907

>>16508894
Let's laugh at the protestants.

>> No.16508922

>>16508889
After the faggot larper, well he's probably not larping, stops bring up faggots in any cook thread as much as possible.

>> No.16508953

>>16507468
>a loving monogamous homosexual relationship
no such thing exists

>> No.16509017

NEW COVENANT FAGGOTS

>> No.16509138

>>16507428
Just don't do the things that kill you or give you parasites, and it'll all be ok. If they had fridges and German thermometers back then, there would be a clause saying "Foodstuffs prone to rot shall not be left for extended periods between 40 and 140 Fahrenheit degrees, or God shall smite thee with vengeful vomitus and rectal tsunamis."

>> No.16509177

>>16507428
The bible says not to eat blood because it's sacred.

Also, you're a fucking retard if you think that properly prepared meat has blood in it. People who overcook stead are a special kind of stupid that god is going to smite with eternal damnation.

>> No.16509234

>>16509177
There will always be a little bit. It spoils quickly, grows friends, and can wreak all kinds of havoc on your digestive system if left to gods own devices. Some salt, a little refrigeration or serious freezing, acidity, steady heat to kill the critters - there's all kinds of ways to prevent 'God's wrath' / 'Montezuma's revenge'.

>> No.16509238

>>16507440
>God made homosexual
God isn't the one who sexually abused them as children to turn them gay.

>> No.16509254

>>16509238
Or was he?

>> No.16509270

>>16509138
>implying the Bible would use freedom units instead of the metric system

>> No.16509310

>>16509270
It uses cubits... fucking cubits! Of course it would use freedom units if the only alternative is sensible meaurement.

>> No.16509327

>>16508750
If you were a bronze age sand nigger then you would KNOW thats not blood because you wouldnt be an apartment dwelling uber eats addicted soiboy and youd have slaughtered an animal before and you'd clearly see that blood is thick and coagulates instantly whereas muscle juice stays juicy you fucking gay idiot.

Also beavers were a fish.

>> No.16509338

>>16507430
>muh globin

>> No.16509344

>>16507428
there is no blood in steak less than well-done. it's literally just the meat's color.

>> No.16509346

>>16507428
we literally have blood sausages all over europe since time immemorial
that law is for jews

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>>16507428
>forbidden to consume blood (Acts 15). Can they in good conscience order steaks that aren't well done?
If there were (significant) blood in a raw steak (there isn't), ruining the steak (well done) would just mean eating well-done blood.
See also:
>telling them to abstain from food polluted by idols, from sexual immorality, from the meat of strangled animals and from blood.
>abstain from food sacrificed to idols, from blood, from the meat of strangled animals and from sexual immorality.
If eating meat in general is condemned by these passages, why wouldn't they just say "don't eat meat"?

Personal note: Yet another woman tries to convince a child to be a fussy eater (so many in my lifetime):
"If you order steak for him, he'll freak out when he cuts into it and the blood runs out!!!".
There's no fucking blood in a steak, you useless cunt.

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>>16507428
LOL CHRISTARDS DONT EVEN FOLLOW THERE RELIGION RIGHT

>> No.16509374

>>16507428
Myowater isn’t blood you fucking retard

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>>16507442
>Exactly. By law we are condemned.
This is my big problem with Christfags.
"God made you such a horribly imperfect being that from the very moment of your conception, you are deserving of eternal torture, punishment and torment, because of God's decision (he makes the rules after all), BUT HE LOVES YOU!!, and the only way to avoid the lake of fire is to go to MY church, and not any of those other churches that make the exact same claim."
I don't WANT there to be a lake of fire, but if there is, every single Christian has signed up for it.

>> No.16509392

>>16509363
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cafeteria_Christians

>> No.16509508

>>16509386
don't like it? too bad. your choice to reject God and get that "eternal torture" (this is a false premise if you actually ever learned about what you're arguing against). you don't HAVE to choose that way, but you can if you want. seems like a stupid decision to me but whatever, you do you. as for me, I'm going to heaven.

>> No.16509530

>>16509508
That’s nice, faggot.

>> No.16509537
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>>16509530

>> No.16509552

>>16509530
Why does it always come down to this exact line with a certain breed of plebbit atheists, it’s something from the likes of tumblr in 2011

>> No.16509573

>>16507428
That's not blood, but whatever.
>>16509386
>Completely misunderstanding the fall of man.
Why are people deliberately obtuse? Why do you harden your hearts and reject the source of all that is good?

>> No.16509598

>>16509537
>>16509552
That’s nice, faggot.

>> No.16509617

>>16509508
>as for me, I'm going to heaven.
Unless Mohammad was right, then you'll burn in hell forever for being a Christfag.
Or you're a Baptist, and the Catholics are right, then you'll burn in hell forever for being the wrong brand of Christfag.
Or you're a Catholic, and the Baptists are right, then you'll burn in hell forever for being the wrong brand of Christfag.
Or the Jehovah's Witnesses were right, or the Mormons were right, or the Calvinists were right.
No matter how you slice it, every Christian church claims to be the only path to salvation, and (at best) only one can be right.
Good luck.

>> No.16509619

>>16509617
you obviously don't know a thing about any of those religions because none of them are conflicting in the core elements

>> No.16509624

>>16509573
>reject the source of all that is good?
Slavery, genocide and a ban on shellfish is "good"?
Retard.

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>>16509619
>none of them are conflicting in the core elements
I was raised a Catholic. Baptists claimed my entire family was hellbound because we were idolaters, and thus pagans.
The sisters at Sacred Heart told us failure to attend Catholic Mass was a mortal sin, and any mortal sin left unconfessed to a Catholic priest is a one way ticket to the lake of fire.
"Born Again" Christians claim they are the only ones heaven-bound.
Almost every Christian denomination claims they're the only ones getting to live at the Father's right hand forever, no matter your personal namby-pamby interpretation of your personal Churchy beliefs.
And obviously, Islam teaches all Christians are going to hell, while Jesus tells us he's the only path to everlasting life.

>> No.16509655

>>16509653
they're all correct

>> No.16509706

>>16509653
>The sisters at Sacred Heart told us failure to attend Catholic Mass was a mortal sin
It is.
>any mortal sin left unconfessed to a Catholic priest is a one way ticket to the lake of fire.
You need to understand your faith better.

>> No.16509746

>>16509653
you're describing cultures, not religions

>> No.16509814

>>16507428
The Old Testament forbids a lot of things. All Christians should keep kosher, but that's inconvenient, so I'll only follow the bible when it comes to the gays.

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>>16509706
>You need to understand your faith better.
Nope. I was told this over and over by Nuns and Priests.

>>16509746
>you're describing cultures, not religions
Sorry, you're 100% wrong. If you have a case to make, please do more than ipse dixit.

>> No.16509892

>>16507435
>"Christians" do a lot of shit that's "forbidden".
If I know but don't follow someone's teachings, I'm not that person's follower. Christians follow Jesus Christ's teachings.
>That's all it takes.
You couldn't be more wrong. If you claim to believe but your actions don't reflect that belief then you're just lying to yourself.

>> No.16509972

>>16509824
A mortal sin is a grave matter that is done knowingly and with intent. The only way to be sure of our forgiveness is by using the sacrament of reconciliation. Ad always, we trust in the love and mercy of God. For those that may have died in a state of mortal sin, we hope the penitent had an act of perfect contrition.

I hope that you have not abandoned your faith through hardness of heart, brother.

>> No.16510083

>>16509386
It’s not that man is “horribly” imperfect just that we are imperfect being and as a result can easily fall into the vices that lead to hell

>> No.16510993

>>16509972
>For those that may have died in a state of mortal sin, we hope the penitent had an act of perfect contrition.
According to the Nuns at Sacred Heart, any mortal sin left unconfessed to a Catholic priest is a one way ticket to hell, no matter how the sinner feels about it, or the circumstances of their death.

>I hope that you have not abandoned your faith through hardness of heart, brother.
It wasn't the hardness of MY heart, brother.

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>>16510083
>can easily fall into the vices that lead to hell
Not what I'm talking about. That's regular sin.
Original sin damns you to hell from the moment of conception, unless/until you are baptized into <insert MY church name here>, then just follow thew rules of the one true Christian church, and you MIGHT be OK.

>> No.16511042

>>16507430
>myoglobin
Hemoglobin*

>> No.16511048

>>16507442
what happened to everybody who was born between the original commandments and christ coming into the picture? they're just fucked?

>> No.16511076

>>16511042
>Hemoglobin
Hemogoblin*

>> No.16511077

>>16511048
In Revelation, nobody gets judged until the end of the world.
When Reverend Bob says "Grandma's in a better place now."? John the Revelator says shes dead in the ground until the final days, THEN she goes to heaven or hell.

>> No.16511214

>>16507428
End of the day, you can believe whatever you wanna believe and follow your own rules based on those beliefs.

>> No.16511240

>>16508889
hi larper

>> No.16511262

>>16510993
and you trust these nuns at sacred heart to be infallible and honest, despite being imperfect humans themselves?

>> No.16511265

>>16510993
>>16511262
addendum: you let the nuns dictate god?

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>>16509362
"If you order steak for him, he'll freak out when he cuts into it and the blood runs out!!!".

>> No.16511342

>>16507440
Leviticus says homos are an abomination. That is a fact. You cannot translate the Hebrew or Greek to make it say otherwise.

>> No.16511401

>>16511271
I hate children so much

>> No.16511402

>>16511042
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Myoglobin
it's okay anon, society demands that some of as be brainlets

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>>16511262
>>16511265
There are no other authorities on Catholicism other than the authorities appointed by the Catholic faith.
If you want to start your own church, that's on you, God bless and salute.
But the appointed spokespeople of the Catholic faith, speak for that particular faith.

>>16511271
>"If you order steak for him, he'll freak out when he cuts into it and the blood runs out!!!".
Actual conversation at the dinner table where an over-protective mother tried to convince her son not to eat steak based on fear-mongering.
I'm a better person for having pushed back against this evil discourse.

>> No.16511430

>>16511401
why?

>> No.16511437

>>16511401
>I hate children so much
>>16511430
>why?

Not him, but...
How did you never notice that they're just fucking monsters?

>> No.16511523

>>16507428
>Christians are forbidden to consume blood
Says who?

>> No.16511584

>>16507428
That's not bloody, it's a properly cooked steak that wasn't rested and all of the juices spilled out.

>> No.16511601

>>16511048
Look up the Harrowing of Hell. Between Christs death and resurrection he went to hell and saved every soul that would have gone to heaven if Christianity existed when they were alive.

>> No.16511651

>>16507451
>Queers hate God
t. your ass

>> No.16511656

>>16508876
>don’t you know your Old vs New?
https://www.britannica.com/topic/list-of-books-of-the-New-Testament-2175367

>> No.16511659

>>16508953
Your boyfriend cheating on you with a man who doesn't live in the closet doesn't mean every gay is as pathetic as you.

>> No.16511660

>>16511342
It says that it is toevah for Jewish men to engage with men in the manner of a woman. No mention of it as an abomination, shiquuts, or even sin, and Christianity is not Judaism anyway.

>> No.16511831

>>16507428
ok so if you think that's blood, which it isn't, how do you convince yourself that cooking it will make it go away?

>> No.16512855

>>16508863
isn't that awfully convenient

>> No.16512866

>>16510993
You should learn more about mortal sin, reconciliation, and perfect contrition.

>> No.16512870

>>16511077
>Amen, I say this day you will be with me in paradise.

>> No.16512980

>>16512855
Well, Jesus was murdered over it, which some might consider a little inconvenient. Remember that the Jews wanted to exclude those outside their tribe from God's love. Their laws are not those of humankind's God.

>> No.16513007

>>16508863
No he doesn't. He explicitly says he will carry them out
>Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.

>> No.16513027

>>16512980
>Jews wanted to exclude
looks like literally nothing has changed then.
im retarded on this jesus shit but he died and became a god right so that sounds like a pretty good deal.

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>>16508863
>So is the part where Jesus says that the old commandments are redundant
Where is that?
Let's check Matthew 5:17-20:
>Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them.
>For truly I tell you, until heaven and earth disappear, not the smallest letter, not the least stroke of a pen, will by any means disappear from the Law until everything is accomplished.
>Therefore anyone who sets aside one of the least of these commands and teaches others accordingly will be called least in the kingdom of heaven, but whoever practices and teaches these commands will be called great in the kingdom of heaven.
>For I tell you that unless your righteousness surpasses that of the Pharisees and the teachers of the law, you will certainly not enter the kingdom of heaven.

So Jesus makes it pretty clear all the old laws, etc stand.
You're still not allowed to eat shellfish, cross-dress, or suffer a witch to live.
Slavery of non-Hebrews is fine.
Women who don't don't bleed from their hymens on their wedding night are to be stoned to death at their father's door.
Plus, without the old testament there's no original sin, and thus no need for Jesus to die on the cross.
Plus, Christfags just love the Ten Commandments.

>> No.16513045

>>16512866
I spent years at Catholic school, and that's exactly what I was taught.

>> No.16513062

>>16513045
>Another lapsed Catholic that doesn't understand the nuances of their faith.

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>>16513062
>nuances
I was there when two nuns told a 7th grade Baptist girl that no, attending Baptist mass was not a sin, but failing to attend Catholic mass was a mortal sin, and if left unconfessed, was a guarantee of eternal torment in hell.
Did they "not understand the the nuances of their faith"?
To be fair, they didn't get the Pope on the phone, but I'm pretty sure they went to some kind of school for this shit.

>> No.16513098

>>16513082
If you don't understand the difference between a Catholic mass and a Baptist service you lack a fundamental understanding of your faith, the Eucharist, and many sacraments.

If you're taking basic and broad statements for middle school children as the fullness of Catholic teaching you're also a fool.

Do you understand the difference between a mortal and venial sin?

>> No.16513103

>>16509327
>Also beavers were a fish.
still are, chud

>> No.16513107

>>16513098
>If you don't understand
I'm just telling you what the nuns told a classroom full of kids. You can take it up with them.
Sacred Heart Elementary, Reisterstown Maryland.
Meanwhile, you go fuck off.

>> No.16513157

>>16513107
I've told you that your understanding is incomplete and invited you to do further reading. Stop being so hostile.

Dominus vobiscum.

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Christcucks btfod by steaks kek!

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>>16507428
Who cares about the Christians? The Zoroastrians used to put their dead on a platform and the blood would collect in a pit and the vultures would eat the corpse in a matter of hours, the Christians picked up a lot of their beliefs before Christianity even existed.

>> No.16513204

>>16507428
It means not being a creature that survives on adrenochrome. It's a warning about (((them))).

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>>16513157
>I've told you that your understanding is incomplete
You've told me the teachings I've rejected are "incomplete".
Don't preach to me, preach to the people we both (apparently) disagree with.
Not sure what part of this is difficult for you.
As far as where the faith stands?
So far I've heard from actual Nuns and Priests, and I've heard from some anonymous a-hole on the internet.
Which should I take as the voice of the Catholic Church?

>> No.16513248

>>16513238
https://ecatholic2000.com/cts/untitled-343.shtml

Hopefully this helps you. God bless, brother.

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>>16513248
Send the links to the Fathers and Sisters at Sacred Heart.
Have you even read a single thing I posted?
May Jesus have mercy on your retarded soul.

>> No.16513306

>>16513238
nothing, because the baby came out white

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>>16513193
The idea behind burying corpses started out as a Hebrew practice, before people started burying corpse they used to put the corpse out in the sun to bake and the birds would eat away at the corpse, the vikings used to set flame to a persons corpse on a boat and push the flaming corpse out to sea.

>> No.16513313

>>16507428
Jesus Christ is boiling in hot excrement in hell read the Talmud.

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>>16513306
>the baby came out white
>implying Jeebus was "white".

>> No.16513321

>>16513312
>I know about 2% of what's taught in any basic anthropology course, I are an expert!

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>>16513313
Sure would like a book, chapter and verse on that one.

>> No.16513340

>>16513321
how do want people to deal with your corpse after you die? do you want your corpse buried or cremated? maybe you want your corpse thrown into a dumpster behind a 7-11.

>> No.16513343

>>16513340
*you

>> No.16513353

>>16513328
Jewish bolshevik detected.

>> No.16513361

>>16513353
>>please elaborate
>how dare you, you dirty jew!
I bet your mother totally doesn't wish she had strangled you in your crib, and that you're a a blast at parties.

>> No.16513364

Christians aren't too fussy about adhering to the teachings of Christ.

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I'm not sure being a Christian chimes too well with being a chantard. Steak is the least of your worries

>> No.16513402

>>16513278
>I was 12 years old and I my teachers did not fully explain the idea of mortal sin to me.
>I am older now(but not much) and I still don't get it even though a kind anonymous poster is directing me to resources.

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>>16513402
The actual appointed educators of the Catholic Church made Church doctrine perfectly clear to me.
I'm so sorry you disagree with Church doctrine.
It's so sad that some (non church sanctioned) website makes you feel more comfortable about your faith by presenting a shoe-horned "what if we sand it down a little?" version of the church's position.
This isn't the Moose Lodge, it's the Catholic Church. You don't just get to make up Church doctrine as you go along.
Believe whatever you want, but the only Church officials I've ever spoken to have told me over and over, the only contrition for sin comes from confession to a Catholic priest.

>> No.16513573

>>16513565
That's funny, because during my confirmation class the concept of perfect contrition was explained as well as the gravity of mortal sin and the necessity of reconciliation.

How old are you, if you don't mind me asking?

>> No.16513600

>>16513238
>So far I've heard from actual Nuns and Priests, and I've heard from some anonymous a-hole on the internet.
reminder, the catholic church requires the nuns/priests who work at a school to have degrees in teaching and theology. The rest of them can literally be a bum off the street and so long as they toe the line on the rules, they're a-OK to stay.
t. went to catholic school and had to turn my essays in to the priest instead of the teacher because HE graded them

>> No.16513609

>>16513600
*HE graded them for all religion classes
he didnt grade all essays. just the religion ones.

>> No.16513611
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There's more than one way to be a Christian, bigot.

>> No.16513613

>>16507428
Just don't lick the fucking blood off the plate. Don't use bread to soak it up and then eat the bread.

You can eat rarer meats, just don't be a fucking ghoul.

>> No.16513621

>>16513613
>Just don't lick the fucking blood off the plate. Don't use bread to soak it up and then eat the bread.
No, I think I will.

>> No.16513632

>>16513611
that hairline is a sin

>> No.16514264

>>16512980
I thought he was sacrificed to wash clean the sins of man. Now it’s murder.
You people need to get your fuckin stories straight. Or not, whatever. It’s all fiction anyway.

>> No.16514278

>>16513611
I hate protestant niggers so much
Not tgat this antipope is any better, mind

>> No.16514288

>>16507432
>>16507428
The “juice” in your steak looks and tastes nothing like actual blood, because it isn’t; it’s called myoglobin, and it’s a protein that’s only found in muscle tissue.

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>>16507428
Why do all christian countries all have some form or shape of blood sausage