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16406440 No.16406440[DELETED]  [Reply] [Original]

it's over

>> No.16406450

>>16406440
Good.
We deserve rights too.

>> No.16406455

>another ridiculously stupid UKcuck law
What else is new?

>> No.16406459

>>16406440
This is like ireland banning the amdro mouse trap.

>> No.16406464

>"great" shitton

>> No.16406470

>>16406450
Asians?

>> No.16406473

>>16406440
They will probably start selling licenses if you want to boil a lobster

>> No.16406481

>>16406440
how the fuck is halal slaughter legal in any western country? it's barbaric.

also how the fuck would they know if I wasted the lobster before I cooked it

>> No.16406511

>>16406440
>eating bugs

>> No.16406565

>>16406481
>also how the fuck would they know if I wasted the lobster before I cooked it
It's most likely meant mainly for restaurants and factories doing it on a large scale. I don't see any downside to it though, just throwing them into boiling water didn't really seem like the best way to kill them to minimize stress and I can't understand why someone would be in favor of that if there's a better alternative.

>> No.16406567

>>16406440
STOP EATING THE SEA BUGS

>> No.16406621

>>16406565
can somewhat agree with this. I'd be open to this legislation if it also required stunning before kosher/halal slaughter. also possibly with an exemption for home cooking.

>> No.16406657

>>16406565
What's the better alternative?

>> No.16406677
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16406677

>this is what they want you to eat

>> No.16406687

>>16406565
>just throwing them into boiling water didn't really seem like the best way to kill them to minimize stress
They don't even have a brain, how else are you going to kill them? They're one step away from fucking plants. People poison absolutely shitloads of insects every year, and that's a million times worse than a lobster dying quite quickly in boiling water. The only reason people care about lobsters is because it's visible. I'm all for animal ethics, but there's a line where it becomes ridiculous.

>> No.16406688

>>16406621
There are stunning methods that don't permanently damage the brain and let the heart continue beating normally, those are supposed to be allowed, but some still refuse any method of stunning for whatever reason.

>>16406657
Putting them in a tank of water that sends out an electric current to immediately stun/kill them. That can easily be done in factories but for restaurants/home cooks you'd have to buy them already prepared that way. Some people say cutting a lobster in half is quicker than boiling but there's some disagreement over that since lobsters don't have a single brain that can easily be destroyed like us.

>> No.16406693

>>16406440
While I agree that lobsters should not be boiled alive, I find it hypocritical that they are doing this but not cracking down on all the barbaric halal and kosher slaughtering even though those are already against the law.

>> No.16406695

>this goes through
>chefs cut their open and kill the lobsters humanely before boiling
>animal rights activists say stabbing them in the head is inhumane

Where does it end with these people

>> No.16406696

>>16406687
>I'm all for animal ethics, but there's a line where it becomes ridiculous.
I dunno, we can't solve everything at once so I think any step that improves their lives even just a little bit is okay.

>> No.16406699

>Where does it end with these people
It doesn't. Same with feminism, minorities, etc. Slippery slope is very real.

>> No.16406700

can't you just knife tip them right through the spine and kill them instantly and then boil them?

>> No.16406705

>>16406693
>While I agree that lobsters should not be boiled alive
What do you propose the alternative is?

>> No.16406708

>>16406688
But then they wouldn't be fresh, and not fresh shellfish is not good at all.

>> No.16406712

>>16406696
Iterative improvement is improvemet, I agree, how else should we kill them ethically then? If this way is unethical, suggest an alternative. Also, while iterative improvement is improvement, if you're spending %80 of your time on %1 of the problem, that's easily worth criticising. I won't tell you to stop caring about animal ethics, but I will tell you it makes more sense to look elsewhere

>>16406700
>through the spine

>> No.16406737

>>16406700
>through the spine
>spine
Go back to school and listen this time.

>> No.16406741

>>16406705
Knife to the skull is the common method is it not?

>> No.16406815

>>16406440
This is a false flag. Any animal activist focusing on animals being killed is distracting you from the real issue: animals being tortured for science. Torture vs slaughter arent comparable. Who cares how it dies as long as you kill it as fast as possible? Well now take a look at pharma animals. Kept alive at the brink of death for months in excruciating agony for your pills. Boycott pharma. Boycott vaccines.

>> No.16406831

>>16406695
it's not suppose to end

>> No.16406861

>>16406470
Americans.

>> No.16406867

Leftists just want to shift the goal posts so far that they'll eventually get equity themselves.

>> No.16406868

oi mate you got a lobster boiling loicence?

>> No.16406871

>>16406712
>>16406737
how do you call in english the middle of the back? where the nerve system is?

>> No.16406882

>>16406871
You would just say the top of the shell. It doesn't have a back at all. Lobsters are a class of animals called invertebrates though. "Vertebra" are the individual pieces that make up your spine, so referring to part of the lobster as the "spine" would mean that it has vertebra, which sounds silly. The specific bone is called the spine.

>> No.16406883

>>16406867
Yeah, it's really obnoxious when people bitch and moan about pseudo-politics on cooking boards no matter what side they're on.

>> No.16406898

>>16406882
i understand, thank you

>> No.16406900

>>16406815
You're a false flag retard who makes arguments in bad faith. I wish we could throw all /pol/ddit conspiritards and whiny leftist faggots into a deep pit full of broken glass. Both groups are so dumb it'd quickly turn into a bucket of crabs

>> No.16407021

>>16406741
I wouldn't know, why are they even boiled alive to begin with?
Seems like something people would be conscious about ages ago and stop doing if it wasn't needed.

>> No.16407126

>>16407021
Because it's easy. You throw them in the freezer until they're too sluggish to fight back and then boil them vs. doing both of those and adding the extra step of knifing them in the head.

>> No.16407157

>>16407021
They're such a disgusting, low quality source of food that within 2-3 hours after death their innate vileness will infect and rot the flesh. You have to cook it within about 2 hours after death to be safe, though cooked lobster will last several days after safely. But since people are lazy they just boil them alive so that they cook when they die.

>> No.16407165

>>16406481
>>also how the fuck would they know if I wasted the lobster before I cooked it

your family will report you like good citizens

>> No.16407171

>>16406440
>all crabs and crustaceans too
Retarded eurotrash

>> No.16407181

>>16407021
Becuse they rapidily deteriorate in quality after death

>> No.16407185

>>16406815
Human health is more important then any animal

>> No.16407233

>>16406440
Do you get arrested if you do this at home?

>> No.16407249

The same people who reee and post "you will eat the bugs" are the same trash who eat lobster aka giant sea bugs

>> No.16407340
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16407340

>>16407249
I also eat shrimp.
Cry more.

>> No.16407369

>>16407249
I think the issue is trying to convince people they have to stop eating meat and eat bugs instead. Surely you can see why people would react more negatively to that.

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16407395

so do y'all not know how to hypnotize a lobster? Just tickle him down the middle (where his primitive semblance of a brain is) and he'll pass right out and be cooked before he knows it.

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16407438

Good.
First we lobsters get protection from hate crimes.
Then we’ll get voting rights.
Then equal rights and citizenship.
And what the fuck are you gonna do about it? Especially in England? Stab me with an unlicensed knife?
Lol good luck, faggot. I got a thick ass shell, and they’re only gonna get thicker once you can’t murder us and we grow to human size.

When your grandchildren are being herded onto human reservations, whilst we breed with your women and make human thermador out of your babies, and all you can do is sit back and fap to inter-species HumanF/LobsterM porn, remember this post.
>t. strong, liberated, activist lobster

>> No.16407447

Maybe someone could invent a lobster gun that shoots them right in the brain? Vetereneriens already have those for youthanizing injured animals and stuff right? You could have different sizes for smaller or larger lobsters and attachments for crabs as well. That way you 100% kill it quickly every single time, and plus shooting it is more fun.

>> No.16407453

I've boiled in excess of 3000 lobsters and none of them seemed to mind

>> No.16407456

>>16406695
>Where does it end with these people
When every human being is dead

>> No.16407459

>UK
>including lobsters in legislation which would recognize them as sentient beings
Lol so how long until residential insect exterminators are put on trial for genocide?

>> No.16407468

>>16407438
lost

>> No.16407477

>>16407249
Lobsters have meat you fucking nimrod. They want to grind up the entire bug, recompress it, then feed it to us

>> No.16407682

>>16407021
Because dead shellfish start deteriorating almost immediately.
They either need to be kept alive til cooking, or immediately frozen.
Raw oysters are also eaten alive, as they’re opened immediately before consumption. Though some argue they’re “technically” dead from having been opened. It depends on whether by “alive” you mean the animal as a whole or just the meat.

>> No.16407711

>>16406900
So I should be tortured like the animals?
>>16407185
Wrong. One consciousness.

>> No.16407717

>>16407438
Most lobsters we eat are over 50 years old.

>> No.16407850

>>16407717
>arguing with a 6ft lobster
Not very smart, m8

>> No.16407873

I shoot my lobster with a .22 as it goes in the pot

>> No.16407877

>>16406440
Eh, these days most chefs dispatch before cooking anyway. Knife down into the head and bifurcate. Quick and easy.

>> No.16408036

>>16407711
>Wrong. One consciousness.
If that's the case it's even more ethical. I'm not torturing another sapient being, I'm torturing another aspect of myself. No one is being hurt but me. It's practically equivalent to exercise. When you work out, you tear muscle, but are healthier overall. If a small fraction of my soul has to suffer for the sake of the whole, then so be it.

>> No.16408070

>>16406815
>Boycott vaccines.
Dog whistle for anybody with a brain to ignore you.

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16408080

>well perhaps he's wondering why someone would kill a lob before throwing him into a pot of boiling water

>> No.16408111

>>16406440
i put a lobster in a pillowcase and swing it at the counter a few times to make sure it's dead.

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16408130

i live in the south so crawfish boils were always a part of my life. it always bothered me when someone would pour an entire wheelbarrow of crawfish into a boiling pot of water.

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16408139

I've seen crazy methods like the CrustaStun which costs a few thousand and electrocutes the lobster so it's probably mostly painless:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sDlSxXgGdbo

But the easiest way is to either throw it in the freezer for 10 minutes and hope because it's barely moving that it's "asleep" and hope that because it doesn't have a brain that it can't feel pain, or just destroy the nervous system with a knife and hope it actually works, but makes a mess
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-tqLdAR4WxE

Attached is the lobster I cooked and ate a bit over an hour ago as a bonus. Chose the freezer method as I didn't want a mess to clean up and was just too lazy and had never done the knife method before. If they had brains I would've definitely done the knife method though, but I think it's a pretty solid theory that because they don't have a brain they don't perceive pain the way humans and other animals do.

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>>16408080

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>>16406440

>> No.16408160

>>16407447
They don't have brains, which is why people don't really care about boiling them alive. They do have electrocution machines for lobsters and crabs but they're marketed towards restaurants as they're like $3000, see video here: >>16408139

>> No.16408184

>>16408130
look at the welds on that thing he didnt even clean them up what a fuckin butcher

>> No.16408202

>>16406455
You can complain about loicenses or whatever but this makes sense. It's sentient, it can suffer, killing it quickly and painlessly isn't too much to ask at all.

>> No.16408206

>>16408160
You don't need brains to sense pain.

>> No.16408217

>>16406693
oy gevalt cool it with the anti semitism

>> No.16408253

>>16408206
That's debated, there's absolutely no way right now to know what kind of pain a lobster feels or if they feel it at all. It's all just anthropomorphizing to think lobsters feel the same pain humans or other vertebrates do. It's definitely not the same as animals with brains and could be as simple as an internal alarm going off saying "this isn't good, move away" on a super basic level that we can't comprehend because our systems are so developed and advanced comparatively.

>> No.16408260

bro they LITERALLY *SCREAM* when you throw them in boiling water how can u say they dont feel pain imagine if I threw u in a boiling pot of water

>> No.16408274

how do you know a lobster is sentient

>> No.16408288

>>16408274
they think

>> No.16408295

Now obviously keeping crustaceans alive and then cooking them via boiling is the safest, freshest and tastiest way to cook them.
But isnt it also pretty quick way to do it? Has someone made an argument of stress levels from measurements?

>> No.16408373

>>16408288
Without a brain?

>> No.16408427

>>16408260
lmao retard, that's just air escaping their body a it cooks. Do you think it's got fucking vocal cords? lungs? If they can scream why don't they vocalize in other ways? Do you think lobsters fucking roar??? meow maybe?? fucking lmao I hope you're baiting

>> No.16408495

>>16408260
>bro
>LITERALLY
>u
>u
You must be 18 to post here

>> No.16408496

>dude kill the lobster by stabbing it in the head lol
Lobsters don't even have a central nervous system, it's distributed all along their spine, if you stab them it won't kill them unless you've got 10/10 aim. You'll mostly just paralyze it.

>> No.16408512

I don’t get what’s wrong with the “freezer for a short while and then boil” method.
They aren’t even awake when they cook then, so any argument about sentience or pain is moot.

>> No.16408515

>>16406565
>minimize stress
It ruins the taste. Just ask the ancient Chinese chefs who actually have real experience instead of dumbass UK lawmakers.

>> No.16408525

>>16406440
as long as they dont touch my crawfish

>> No.16408618

>>16408427
>>16408495
okay how bout we throw u in a pot of boiling water see if u like it

>> No.16408635

>>16408618
I'm not even disagreeing with the boiling thing I'm just saying it DEFINITELY doesn't scream and you're retarded.

>> No.16408640

>>16408036
Dude come on just like one consciousness man. y'know?

>> No.16408660

based. lobsterinos deserve some happiness too

>> No.16408668

>>16408036
based

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>>16407249
>you WILL eat the bugs
>you WILL live in the pod
>you WILL eat the lab meat
>you WILL give up your car
>you WILL join them

>> No.16408704

>>16406481
>how the fuck is halal slaughter legal in any western country?

Because they know what happens when they try to police Muslims.

>> No.16408712

>>16408682
Doesn't posting stale copypasta get old? I mean, do you giggle yourself to tears every time you do it? It seems like such a waste. Why not do something original, or have you no personality of your own?

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>>16406687
This is what I don't get.
>"Boiling lobsters is cruel"
>"is that a spider!? Let me just spray it with something designed to paralyze it, give it convulsions, and burn it to death, simultaneously"

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>>16408682

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>>16408704

>> No.16408764

>>16408727
I usually just ignore spiders because they keep away other pests and will naturally go away/die off if there's no food source, or if I have to get rid of it I'll catch it in a cup and then put it outside.

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16408768

>>16407249
Anon, I will eat the bugs. I will also eat the lobster. I will also eat the cow.

I am Noah's Ark and I will carry all animals in the bowels of my ship.

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>>16408712
>>16408748
see you later at THE POD bros!!!

>> No.16408779

>>16406440
Glad to see UK lawmakers are focusing on the important things, like laws about lobster preparation, rather than inconsequential things like their country being completely transformed by uncontrolled demographic replacement

>> No.16408790

>>16408779
don't worry once you leave EU your problems are gonna be fixed

>> No.16408796

>>16408779
The anglo-saxon people were the catarpillar, Britain their cocoon. When the Butterfly of the USA emerged, did its cast off cocoon serve any further purpose?

>> No.16408802

>>16408796
a country isn't a cocoon, you stupid faggot

>> No.16408810

>>16408802
A metaphor isn't literal, you stupid faggot.

>> No.16408813

>>16408790
I hope so, but london looks like a pretty scary place

>> No.16408822

>>16408813
that was ironic, you already left and you are worse than before

>> No.16408875

>>16408139
>le stun theory

Yeah, so much better to electrocute the cunts before you boil them alive

>retard logic at work

>> No.16408879

>>16408810
oh so you a poet, homo?

>> No.16408897

>>16408779
It's basically easier to slip in stupid laws like this that no one was really focusing on. Then they can all pat themselves on the back, say they are doing their jobs, and pretend that your taxes are going being spent wisely.

>> No.16408941

>>16408875
It's not some tiny zap that just annoys them. A strong enough shock can instantly kill you or at least make you go unconscious. Would you really rather be tossed into boiling water while still fully aware which can take a while to actually kill you, or shocked first where you can almost immediately go unconscious?

>> No.16408950

>>16408941
I think u got b8ed m8ed

>> No.16409078

>>16406440
>when a shrimp has more human rights than the average brit
kek

>> No.16409108

>>16408941
Counterpoint: I'm not a lobster and I don't give a fuck about lobsters or whether they're in pain. Rstrrv k8qw j4ntt

>> No.16409126

>>16407438
What the fuck did you just fucking say about me, you little bitch? I’ll have you know I graduated top of my class at Le Cordon Bleu, and I’ve been involved in dinner parties for royalty and presidents, and I have over 300 confirmed lobster boils. I am trained in French cooking and I’m the top chef de cuisine in the entire world. You are nothing to me but just another course. I will boil you with precision the likes of which has never been seen before on this Earth, mark my words. You think you can get away with saying shit to me over the Internet? Think again, seabug. As we speak I am contacting my network of Le Creuset dealers across the world and your IP is being traced right now so you better prepare for the storm, maggot. The storm that wipes out the pathetic little thing you call your life. You’re fucking dead, bug. I can be anywhere, anytime, and I can prepare you in over seven hundred ways, and that’s just with my bare hands. Not only am I extensively trained in unarmed cooking, but I have access to the entire arsenal of the kitchen and I will use it to its full extent to wipe your tail off the face of the table, you little shit. If only you could have known what unholy retribution your little “clever” comment was about to bring down upon you, maybe you would have held your tongue. You didn’t, and now you’re paying the price, you goddamn insect. I will pour butter all over you and you will drown in it. You’re fucking dead, kiddo.

>> No.16409136

>>16408941
It's difficult communicating with someone who has a rudimentary grasp of english, Deng. How many years of shitposting do you have left before they'll let you see your wife and kid again?

>> No.16409148

>>16408160
>They do have electrocution machines for lobsters
oy vey what about roller coasters that dump them directly into the pot?! oy gevalt it's like anuddah shoah!

>> No.16409151

>>16408036
>I'm torturing another aspect of myself. No one is being hurt but me. It's practically equivalent to exercise.
Level with me here: just how fat are you?

>> No.16409154

>>16408202
Lobsters can't feel pain, you dolt.

>> No.16409164

>>16409151
5'10, 170 bitch

>> No.16409165

>>16409154
Most living creatures will still have some kind of reaction that tells them to get away from something causing extreme damage. It might not be "pain" as we feel but it's still going to be something unpleasant, or else they wouldn't try to avoid it. And if you can avoid having to make them feel any more unpleasant than necessary before they die, why not?

>> No.16409176

>>16406440
Why would you boil a live animal, fucking chimp-brained shit.

>> No.16409179

>>16409176
Because it’s the quickest way to kill a crustacean and results in the best-tasting meat.
Why the fuck are you posting on a cooking board when you know absolute fuck all about cooking?

>> No.16409184

>>16407249
>ewww how can they eat those icky sea bugs, i am definitely not a manchild

>> No.16409185

>>16409179
The quickest way to kill a lobster is a single long cut down the belly from head to tail-tip. Destroys the three main brain-masses.

>> No.16409195

>>16409165
Your mom had some kind of reaction to my dick last night, and she found it more pleasant than necessary. Now arrest me, fag.

>> No.16409208

>>16409195
>cope and seethe

>> No.16409224

>>16406871
Central nervous system I guess

>> No.16409229

>>16409185
Sounds interesting.
Any linkable proof that it causes less distress than traditional cooking?

>> No.16409236

>>16409185
>>16409229
>the three main brain-masses
They don't have brains at all.

>>16409176
Its nervous system (that's all it has, it has no brain) is closer to an insect than a mammal or even fish (fish do have brains, though very small).

>> No.16409248

>>16409208
You sure showed me with your Twitter lingo, epic bro. Next you'll post a soyjak meme, I'm guessing.

>> No.16409258

>>16409248
??

>> No.16409261

>>16409248
your post was just
>mom dick fag
why would you expect anything other than a shitpost in return?

>> No.16409277

This is like banning recreational angling because the hook hurts the fish's mouth.
And people are so into demonizing each other that people are seriously getting behind this just so they can accuse normal people of being monsters.

>> No.16409319

>>16409277
I'm sure some people are only arguing about this stuff so they can demonize others but I've personally seen a lot of animals being mistreated and just want them to suffer less if it can be helped.

>> No.16409332

>>16409261
Your "shitpost" is literally just a greentexted catchphrase you copied from blue checkmarks. It's pathetic and sad.

>> No.16409444

>>16409236
>they don't have brains
>why's that?
>because their ganglial clusters aren't arranged side-to-side like mine
A society of brainlets like yourself wouldn't be so bad if so many of you didn't exhibit Dunning-Kruger and senselessly sperg out over semantics.

>>16409229
I don't have any studies, but the Maine Lobster Company recommends a similar method focused mainly on the destruction of the forebrain.
https://maine-lobster.com/cooking/how-kill-lobster

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>>16409444
holy fuck you are stupid

>> No.16409497

>>16409480
You know he speaks the truth.

>> No.16409524

>>16408202
Lobsters are scientifically proven to not be able to feel pain.

>> No.16409559

>>16409480
Good point, anon. You really owned him with your scathing retort.

>> No.16409582

>>16409332
Dunning kruger moment

>> No.16409651

>>16406440
How do you even enforce this? How will they know what you do in your own home.

>> No.16409654

>>16408202
>It's sentient
prove. In my book you have to at least have read "The Republic" to count as a sentient human being.

>> No.16409659

>>16409444
>I don't have any studies, but check link plz
Nah, I’m good.

>> No.16409662

>>16406481
Because arabs pay a premium for it, and cattle is just cattle. Who the fuck cares if it dies in pain or not. If you want to be really ethical you should kill yourself, because your sole existance implies in the suffering of many animals, even if you are a vegan. Or you should grow a pair and enjoy a churrasco

t. southern brazilian

>> No.16409684

>>16407249
>I am a pathetic fatso that lives for fast food
>>16407456
imagine being an unironic anti natalist
>>16407711
based metaphysical chad
>>16408036
haha enlightened Buddhist respone

>> No.16409746

>>16409582
You're not even using that term properly. How ironic.

>> No.16409811

>>16407249
I only eat beef, pork, venison, rabbit, mutton, and poultry when it comes to meat.

>> No.16409824

>>16409662
>Who the fuck cares if it dies in pain or not
A lot of people do.

I don't see why the only two choices you can give someone are "kill yourself" or "let animals suffer when it's avoidable". Why does it have to be all or nothing? Surely there's some middle ground where you're not killing yourself but also caring even just a little bit about not needlessly making an animal experience any more distress than necessary before killing it.

>> No.16409825

>>16408202
It’s not sentient. Lobsters are of the same order as spiders and roaches. Do you pour one out for every bug you thwack with a rolled magazine?
The push for banning boiling live lobsters comes exclusively from leftoid PETA types who want to ban the consumption of all animal products and make it so all animals have the same legal protections as people.

>> No.16409827

>>16408618
Humans aren’t lobsters, anon

>> No.16409835

>>16409319
Crustaceans are biologically very large arachnid relatives. How often do you cry over the horrors of bug extermination? Of insecticides?

>> No.16409856
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16409856

im not even a veganfag but just straight boiling lobsters and crabs alive always seemed pretty fucked to me. imagine spending almost 50 - 100 years alive just to get trapped and thrown into a pot
>>16409835
>relatives = the same thing

>> No.16409858

Eating animals is immoral. Go vegan.

>> No.16409859

>>16409835
I think it's just more about necessity. Like obviously I understand we can't let bugs infest our food supply and spread disease, but I don't really feel the need to kill every insect that's in my house either. I usually try to just catch whatever I can and put them back outside. If I accidentally kill something I do feel a little bad. I used to not care about this stuff that much until I was injured really badly in an accident. Made me feel differently about these things I guess. I just think it would be nice if we could eventually reach a point where we don't have to kill anything, which obviously can't happen overnight but that doesn't mean the little things are pointless.

>> No.16409875

>>16409858
do you believe in god?

>> No.16409895

>>16409856
>thinking biological relatives can’t be considered the same thing
It’s like comparing dolphins to whales, they’re not that distant in the grand scheme of it.

>>16409859
>being this much of a faggot
Ngmi, people like you shouldn’t have a say in society because you WILL make society so weak and impotent that it gets steamrolled by anyone who decides they want to conquer us.

>> No.16410818

>>16409825
>thwack with a rolled magazine
No because that is a quick death
I'm not torturing the bugs to death like lobsters being boiled

>> No.16410839

>>16408070
Ignore all the warning signs. Ignore the fall of morales. Ignore the thieves. Ignore the thugs. Ignore the rapists.
Ask me how I know youre of Abrahamic religions?

>> No.16410840

>>16410818
You are whenever you use insecticides on them, which run the gamut from choking them to death to dissolving them from the inside out with corrosive substances.

>> No.16410933

>>16406481
If you think halal is barbaric, look up what the jews are doing with kosher

>> No.16411089

Would it affect anything to scissor cut the brain out before dropping it into boiling water? Other than time of course. I mean, we kill everything else before cooking them.

>> No.16411164

>>16410933
Both halal and kosher should be illegal.

>> No.16411258

>>16406700
>invertibrate
>having vertebrae
How you gathered enough brain cells to solve the captcha is beyond me

>> No.16411312

>>16411164
Slaughter however you want. Just don't torture

>> No.16411324

>>16408202
No it doesn't, it's a good sign of the biggest problem with the UK. The idea that they're constantly trying to make everything a law or illegal because the people in power in the UK are the equivalent of children who think they have the moral high ground.

>> No.16411325

>>16410839
>equating immunizations to rapists
Take your meds

>> No.16411329

>>16411325
>list several bad things
>equating
Are you completely retarded then?

>> No.16411330

>>16408202
>UK education
And here I thought Amerilards were dumb as bricks, fucking hell

>> No.16411335

>>16409895
>only a society that kills spiders and boils lobsters can fend off an invasion
alright

>> No.16411343

>>16411258
i bought the pass

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