/ck/ - Food & Cooking

[Anonymous No.16288412]

>There are people in poor neighborhoods who dont have access to fresh produce close to them.
>All thats near are convenience stores with canned processed food.
>They cant even afford to drive every week to a far away supermarket.
>This in turn makes rhwm fatter, diabetic people with heart problems and not as intelligent as if they had proper food.

[Anonymous No.16288417]

>>16288412
whats wrong with a can of beans? you got a problem with beans now?

[Anonymous No.16288429]

>>16288412
there's four neighbourhood shops with fresh veg and fruit within five minutes walking distance where I live

[Anonymous No.16288431]

>>16288417
Yeah they fucked my gf and humilliate me constantly when I go to the movies.

[Anonymous No.16288445]

>>16288429
For most people it never becomes a problem. The fucked thing is that a lot of shopping centers that rent out to grocery stories (you know those parking lots surrounded by numerous rentable storefronts) make a deal as part of the contract to that grocery store to not rent to another grocery store for a certain number of years.

If a grocery store is not profitable though they will close down and then the landlord can't rent to anyone else as per the contract because the company that had a grocery store retains the right to reopen. The practice is completely fucked and causes poor areas to have grocery stores shut down and funnel everyone to further away grocery stores.

[Anonymous No.16288462]

>>16288445
I don't know that. I live in a small city in Germany.

[Anonymous No.16288467]

>>16288412
Sucks to suck

[Anonymous No.16288468]

>>16288412
ah, the "food desert" myth.

[Anonymous No.16288498]

https://www.nber.org/papers/w24094
>we find that exposing low-income households to the same products and prices available to high-income households reduces nutritional inequality by only nine percent, while the remaining 91 percent is driven by differences in demand
>hese findings counter the common notion that policies to reduce supply inequities, such as “food deserts,” could play an important role in reducing nutritional inequality.

Also:
>price of foods, including healthy foods, have fallen over the last 100 years in the US
>at a macro level, rising incomes in developing countries are strongly associated with obesity

Is it possible... maybe... that poor people just choose to eat more because they prefer it? Impossible! People acting against what I think their best interest are?? How dare they!?

[Anonymous No.16288512]

Also: ever seen a fat Asian grandmother?
I didn't think so.

[Anonymous No.16288517]

>>16288498
So a working paper that has to use a specific model isn't a good basis for fact. Also poor people typically work longer, harder and more stressful jobs, it makes sense they don't have the time/energy to constantly make fresh/healthy food.

[Anonymous No.16288519]

Don't burgers have the ability to order their weekly shopping online and get it delivered directly to their house for free?
You can in civilised countries.
I can understand why this service might not be available in remote areas, but then they should be using the abundant land to grow vegetables to supplement their diet.

[Anonymous No.16288523]

>>16288412

thats what they get for stealing. all those niggers deserve to die.

[Anonymous No.16288532]

>>16288519
>get it delivered directly to their house for free?
I can get it shipped but there is a fee.

[Anonymous No.16288534]

>>16288445
>landlord can't rent to anyone else as per the contract
What? If the landlord isnt getting paid, the contract is void

[Anonymous No.16288535]

>>16288517
>working paper
2 minutes in Google shows you it was published in QJE (top-5 econ journal).
>has to use a specific model
Uh... what is the alternative? Do you have a specific critique? Every paper that uses a model uses, indeed, a "specific" model, namely the one that it uses.
>Also poor people typically work longer, harder and more stressful jobs, it makes sense they don't have the time/energy to constantly make fresh/healthy food.
The average bottom decile household has less than 1 full-time income earner and the modal household probably has none. The idea that these people are obese and unhealthy because they have no time to cook is as believable as the idea that they invest in lottery tickets because they've never heard of a savings account. These ideas are always spoken from a position of immense privilege, from a person who's never known a poor person.

[Anonymous No.16288550]

>>16288412
I've always wondered what the fuck this "food desert" thing is all about, and my suspicion was that it's some kind of crusade scraping the bottom of the barrel for morons to save. I looked up the only resource I could find worth a damn to find "food deserts", sponsored by the government. Here is my town of San Marcos, TX. Do you know where that green area is? North of town on I-35, and no further than a 10 minute drive to a grocery store. But wait! You say these poor people don't have cars? HEB, a Texas grocery chain, delivers up to 30 minutes away from their location. Continued.

[Anonymous No.16288565]

>>16288412 (OP)
I've always wondered what the fuck this "food desert" thing is all about, and my suspicion was that it's some kind of crusade scraping the bottom of the barrel for morons to save. I looked up the only resource I could find worth a damn to find "food deserts", sponsored by the government. Here is my town of San Marcos, TX. Do you know where that green area is? North of town on I-35, and no further than a 10 minute drive to a grocery store. But wait! You say these poor people don't have cars? HEB, a Texas grocery chain, delivers up to 30 minutes away from their location. Continued.

[Anonymous No.16288577]

>>16288412
canned "processed" food does not cause diabetes or fatty fuck obesity.

[Anonymous No.16288583]

But San Marcos isn't a large place- even though the place listed is farmland. What about a place with tons of homeless people and a shittily run gibs machine? Numbers on the image are amount of grocery stores per location, and bear in mind HEB delivers groceries as well, and cheaply. Per $100 groceries delivered, usually the fee is $5 or less, with larger orders costing nothing for delivery at all.

Maybe poor people eat shittily, and that's it. Not every fry cook at Mcdonalds is an undiscovered warrior-poet or AI researcher.

[Anonymous No.16288591]

>>16288577
I won't agree with OP on much, but canned food is not good for you. Full of stuff that causes a rise in blood pressure and other unsavory things, even canned vegetables.

[Anonymous No.16288635]

>>16288591
wrong. Its just water and salt.

[Anonymous No.16289228]

>>16288635
My dude if you only eat canned goods salt becomes "not good for you".

[Anonymous No.16289239]

>>16288512
That could either be a big dicc or a small man with a slightly large penis.

[Anonymous No.16289266]

>argument against social class mobility
>Its about poor people
>4chan feverishly rejects it, blaming poor people instead of the system, practically dehumanizing them and making them "other kind of people"
>Calling them niggers in some cases
when this was never stated

Im starting to think you guys go to great lengths to justify your hate towards everything with a whiff of social reform and liberalism. Half of you are barely scraping by.

>Not true i lift and am so successful as oppossed to you so your entire argument is invalid
Then why are you here shitting on poor people with disingenous arguments

[Anonymous No.16289334]

>>16289266
>link academic research
>"disingenuous arguments"

[Anonymous No.16289341]

>>16288412
Goya is a chud brand.

[Anonymous No.16289426]

>>16289341
“you get it? okay good. now get this spic shit off my desk”
- trump, probably right after that picture was taken

[Anonymous No.16289530]

>>16288412
Food desserts are a myth. People when given cheap fatty food will choose it over fresh.

[Anonymous No.16289641]

>>16289426
Prolly this, dude has likely never eaten a Goya product. I use the hell out of their canned goods but their sardines are awful, especially for being priced in the same neighborhood as KO.

[Anonymous No.16289663]

>>16288412
those people should move to a rural community with a lower cost of living and better access to fresh produce

[Anonymous No.16289664]

>>16289334

What's up with those creepy mutant nipples? It like his nipples are surrounded by smaller nipples. Is it fractal and the pattern repeats on a smaller basis?

[Anonymous No.16289674]

>>16289641

I buy Goya products to irritate my left leaning partner. "Hey sweets, I brought you some delicious Goya Coconut water."

[Anonymous No.16289689]

>>16288412
Ayy lmao, "funny deserts" seem to be a recent conception. Most ghettos had grocery and food stores until they were robbed and intimidated out of the area. Stores would last there if thugs stopped stealing from them. I'll agree that meat and fruit can be expensive, but a bag of dried beans or brown rice is generally cheaper than chips, and ditto for tea compared to pop. Yet fat poor people tend to prefer salty, sugary food.

[Anonymous No.16289695]

canned pumpkin is pretty good for micronutrients. spread it on toast n shit

[Anonymous No.16289707]

>>16289689
The poor Stop N Shop wouldve survived had not that had $1k less in margins for the shareholder bonuses. Very sad.

[Anonymous No.16289760]

>>16288583
Data from Department of Ag shows that people receiving EBT are far more likely to purchase soda, snacks, and ice cream than people who aren't. Millions and millions of dollars go to nutrionally null "food" items every year.

[Anonymous No.16289767]

>>16289674
>Goya Coconut water
I've been meaning to try that stuff, I hear it's good.

[Anonymous No.16289772]

>>16289707
Ask me how I know you voted for Sanders? Read about stores that open in the ghetto, they will lose hundreds of thousands of dollars a year in shoplifting. They're not going to magically transfer products and profits from Safe Suburban Store to Dangerous Urban Store.

[henlo No.16289779]

>>16288577

[Anonymous No.16289809]

>>16288535
100% correct post.

[Anonymous No.16289837]

Unironically, city dwellers are hilarious vermin people.

These faggots have to deal with future doctors/lawyers/engineers robbing stores so often that grocers refuse to open and they have to get their food from corner stores that have triple markup prices because that’s the only way they can make a profit with all the shoplifting going on.

Yes, city cucks pay extra to eat chemical preservative sloppa. They want us to think it’s a serious issue, but it’s fucking hilarious.

[Anonymous No.16289849]

>>16288498
hey cutie

[Anonymous No.16289853]

>>16289674
>partner

Do you own a law firm together? Why do you speak like this?

>>16289266
I’m not against social mobility, I just love seeing city dwellers suffer because they’ve taken so much from the rest of America.

Die slow eating garbage bitches LOL

[Anonymous No.16289860]

>>16289707
>blaming everyone but the actual thugs robbing immigrant store owners

They deserve to live in the hell they creates

[Anonymous No.16289910]

>>16289853

Soon to be husband. We plan to wear matching cock rings and unicorn hats. Happy Pride month bitches.

No, actually you're quite correct, we do in fact own a law firm together, Swinging Richards. We're based out of Atlanta.

[Anonymous No.16289917]

>>16289910
Lmao

[Anonymous No.16289945]

>>16289860
Yeah, I guess being a thug ranks higher on the Left's totem pole of pity. I knew an Arab immigrant who ran a few convenience stores in a ghetto hell-hole and he got shot and killed after handing the robbers all of his money. As you can imagine, there weren't any riots over his death, just a vigil.

[Anonymous No.16289948]

truth is poor people are stupid and hedonistic. they live like animals and only understand pain, pleasure and aggression. those that become self-aware either self-destruct or work to improve their lives and move a rung up towards working class.

[Anonymous No.16290370]

>>16289767

I liked it, but my cock holster didn't think it had much flavor.

[Anonymous No.16290503]

>>16288583
I thought it was pretty bullshit too until I visited north america. Dollar stories are filling the gap that would usually be filled by 'metro' versions of grocery stores that you usually see in other countries. I spent a lot of time in a shitty city and I struggled with buying food because anywhere that sold cigarettes my credit card wasn't accepted and I couldn't be bothered using the bus to go shopping so I stuck to an asian grocer I later found out that some dollar stores sell dairy and stuff so I went to them.

[Anonymous No.16290525]

>>16288445
>make a deal as part of the contract to that grocery store to not rent to another grocery store for a certain number of years.

I'm calling BS on this. If the store closes and stops paying rent before the contract expires then the contract is void.

[Anonymous No.16290535]

>>16288412
BS. Poor Hispanic neighborhoods have amazing grocery stores and restaurants. It isn't about being rich or poor, perhaps there are other factors at play.

[Anonymous No.16290549]

>>16288519
The poor blacks that live in these "food deserts" would just have it immediately stolen off their doorstep by another poor black
It's like mad max in black neighborhoods

[Anonymous No.16290559]

People in this thread think "poor people" and nignogs in the center of downtown come to mind

But when I think "food desert" I think the rural town of 1000 that has a "general store" and a dollar general as it's only options within a 20 minute drive
There are tons of towns like that around the country in the less populated counties

[Anonymous No.16290578]

>>16290559

I saw an example of that in North Dakota. A genuinely lovely lady ran the general store for couple of decades. When she retired no one wanted to buy it so she closed it down. Instant sixty mile trip for residents to buy groceries. Them not being inner city types, no one gave a damn.

[Anonymous No.16290595]

>>16289334

Seriously guys, who is this and why does he have a nipple with multiple mini-nipples. They're freaking me out.

[Anonymous No.16290894]

>>16290559
>But when I think of "food deserts"
The conversation is never about bumfuckville, georgia, population 600, it's about inner city ghettos.
Yes, rural places also qualify as food deserts, but there isn't actually a "problem" per se with not having stores close by.

[Anonymous No.16291003]

>>16288445
The reason these areas don't have any grocery stores is because of high crime rates, looting, and a lack of customers.

[Anonymous No.16291010]

>>16290559
Literally no one is talking about rural white people when they talk about food deserts.

[Anonymous No.16291019]

>>16288431
You're thinking of beaners not beans

[Anonymous No.16291023]

>>16290559
>But when I think "food desert" I think the rural town of 1000 that has a "general store" and a dollar general as it's only options within a 20 minute drive
We aren't discussing your imagination here, friend.

[Anonymous No.16291031]

>>16288498
Poor people are poor BECAUSE they are stupid
Not the other way around

[Anonymous No.16291060]

>>16288517
>Also poor people typically work longer, harder and more stressful jobs, it makes sense they don't have the time/energy to constantly make fresh/healthy food.
What are you trying to say?
That poor people are self-destructive?

[Anonymous No.16291112]

>>16289853
If people refer to their significant other as 'partner' I automatically assume they're homosexuals

[Anonymous No.16291170]

>>16290559
Rural towns nearly always have farmers markets and similar things
I grew up in a small rural town and the farmers themselves would sell fresh produce

[Anonymous No.16291657]

>>16288412
Food deserts are a myth. They exist only because if there was a grocery store with all the ingredients you need, niggers would stil just eat at kfc. Simple economics

[Anonymous No.16291761]

>>16289266
It really is just niggers. You talk about social class mobility. If that it is your goal, you should blame them too. One of them should step up and open a store. How is a big corporation rolling in and taking all the profits helping class mobility?
No, you seek a solution from a third party because you KNOW none of these people will do anything themselves.

[Anonymous No.16292856]

>>16288583
>>16288565

I grew up in east Austin and lived in San Marcos for a few years and any map that shows fucking hipster ass Mueller as a "food desert" is completely worthless. And that green area in north San Marcos literally borders the local HEB lol. These numbers are manipulated, its clearly just a grift to get more federal gibs for local govt.

[Anonymous No.16292866]

>>16288445
The secret is to stop stealing things, to increase the chance of profitability.

[Anonymous No.16292895]

>>16290559

Yeah but those small towns are nearly all white people. Federal gibs HAVE to go to non-white ghettos, its the iron law of modern American governance and bureaucracy.

[Anonymous No.16292938]

>>16288412

Poor people now days are too lazy to cook. They want things like frozen chicken wings, microwaveable waffles, soda, and chips.

I’m well below the poverty line and a live in a big welfare area, when my family members and their kids come over they swarm my fridge immediately saying they are hungry and whatnot, but when they see food that is actually nutritious like lentil soup, stuffed cabbage, vegetable fried rice, ect they turn their heads up at it. Except when I bake things like banana bread muffins or cookies.

Basically there is no demand for fresh fruits and veggies in poor neighborhoods because poor people don’t want vegetables.

>>16290559
This however is a legit issue, if you have a population so low that it can’t support a grocer you have a legit problem.

[Anonymous No.16293132]

>>16288412
Yah I'll just go out and buy fresh coconut milk from the local coconut milk vendor. I mean its so prevalent with all the coconut trees around.

[Anonymous No.16295301]

>>16292938
>lentil soup, stuffed cabbage, vegetable [whatever]

Not even some starving Bangladesh baby would put any of that in its poor little starving belly. That's literally Purina
Hipster/hippy/vegan chow.

[Anonymous No.16295333]

>>16292866

I was shocked, shocked I tell you to see how fast someone loaded down with merch from a shoe store in Los Angeles could run out the door and down the sidewalk. Not sure how you'd fix that without reverting to 19th century small town Saturday public hangings.