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Now that it’s summer, it’s time to bring out those gars to go along with the BBQ. Post and discuss pipes, cigars, cigarettes, hookah, snus, snuff, etc

Previous thread: >>16198893

>> No.16236222
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Fuck off to >>>/diy/ or >>>/out/ you cringelord

>> No.16236225

>>16236213

cigars are always gay.

just smoke cigarattes you fucking flaming homo

>> No.16236239

>>16236222
>>16236225
Cry

>> No.16236243

>>16236213
How do you pronounce Pall Mall?

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>>16236239
Nice thread bud. Stay mad kid...

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>> No.16236306

>>16236213
Hey das my pic.

>> No.16236355

Should I even give Peterson Nightcap a try if I didn't like Early Morning Pipe?
I found I'm not a fan of the sour oriental taste.

>> No.16236431

Obligatory
https://youtu.be/GVwVss7bWLA

>> No.16236459
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I miss cigarettes

>> No.16236465
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I can’t decide between getting into cigars or pipes. What are the differences? Do they taste/smell different?

>> No.16236660

>>16236459
Start smoking cigars

>> No.16236692

>>16236465
>>16236660

>> No.16236703

>>16236465
Yes
Pipes taste better toe but they are like hot air compared to cigars. Pipe tobacco has also more a bigger taste and smell spectrum to choose while cigars even if they have clearly different notes they tend to have a more uniform taste.

Smoking pipes everyday is more expensive than smoking cigars, unless you're a retard who think that cigars for less than 10$ are not good

That big difference is the learning curve. Pipes require you to learn how to smoke it and the first month will taste like shit if you are on your own, you will burn the tobacco, you'll pack it too loosely/tight, you need to relight it every 2 puffs and tobacco will be tasteless, you need to leant how and when use the Czech tool, you will burn your young trying desperately to keep it light,....

Cigars instead, you learn ho to light it, correct it when it starts burning unevenly and puff with the right cadence and that's it (and you don't have to clean up anything)

I still prefer pipes for the taste and the type of smoking overall despite it being a less relaxed experience respect to cigars

Also don't listen to retards here and **don't** start with a corncob, buy a not expensive straight briar, better if branded (some Savinelli are not super expansive and smoke really good)

You can buy a corncob as your second or , even better, third pipe

>> No.16236715

>>16236465
Why not both?

>> No.16236719

>>16236225
Pipes are even better

>> No.16236868

>>16236225
weren't cigarettes literally a staple of gay culture at some point?

>> No.16237013

>>16236703
None of your post is accurate. It's as if you've gone to every pipe forum and such online and gone completely against what everyone says. The only thing that's accurate is that pipes require a learning curve but it's not as bad as you're making it out to be. The biggest issue is learning how to pack. Why are you doing this?

>> No.16237056

>>16236703
Also don't listen to retards like >>16237013

>> No.16237119

>>16237013
Its always funny to see the fucking larpers in real specific threads. Very easy to spot who doesn't know what the fuck they're talking about kek.

OP just lemme know what cigar you need to start the next thread with and I'll light it up.

>> No.16237180

stop replying to the anti corncob autist

>> No.16237222

Buying a savinelli or an estate pipe before knowing if you're going to continue smoking is like buying a humidor before getting into cigars. Don't put the cart before the horse.

>> No.16237296

How do you carry a pipe with you? I wish it was as easy as it is with a cigarette pack and a lighter.

>> No.16237315

How dangerous health-wise are pipes compared to cigarettes and cigars?

>> No.16237344

>>16237315
About the same as cigars but way, way less bad than cigarettes.

>> No.16237345

>>16236243
pummel

>> No.16237359

>>16236243
paul maul

>> No.16237373

>>16236703
horrible post

>> No.16237376

>>16237296
https://mrbrog.com/products/tobacco-pipe-leather-sleeve-pouch

Just get a nice little leather roll up or something. Prepack the pipe, a cleaner or two, pipe nail and a lighter. All you need.

>> No.16237380

>>16237222
I Don't know where do you live but a Savinelli grezza (unfinished) should'n cost more than 40$ if the store is not scamming you.

That said any cheap briar will work, not necessarly a Savinelli.
Stop trolling people into buying fisherprice pipes because USA strong.


Also
> non pertinent analogy
you need to go back

>> No.16237402

>>16237380
https://corncobpipe.com/product/great-dane-maple-hardwood-pipe/

$12. Spend your money finding a tobacco you like, then buy a better pipe if you fee like it. MM used to sell a 7 day set of cob seconds for like $25. Enough to gift around to your friends after you pick the best two for flavored and unflavored baccy.

>> No.16237423

>>16236703
>reddit spacing
>literally every piece of “advice” is wrong
Certainly a coincidence!

>> No.16237434
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>>16237380
>Stop trolling people into buying fisherprice pipes because USA strong.
And you’re an anglocuck too, what a surprise

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For me? I’ll take a box of AJ fernadez new world

>> No.16237624

>>16237423
>>reddit spacing
How new are you?

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>>16237624
Please stop trying to fit in

>> No.16237648

>>16237639
Are you legally blind or just retarded?
Stop larping, newfag

>> No.16237688

>>16237434
no an anglo you cretin

>>16237402
What's the point of your post? I never said they weren't cheap and that should have gave you a hint about their quality.

corconb pipe were a cheap substitute to briar and you can tell.
They are reddit tier pipe shilled by southern gentleman larper who listen to country jazz.
They are shit and especially the mouthpiece is such garbage that you need to buy separately a methacrylate

Only people who seriosly advocate corncob as first pipe (among those who are not paid by MM) are retarded people who only owns a cob and maybe another cheap pipe

Those 11$ are better spent for a pizza honestly

>> No.16237744

>>16236868
they were until cigars took over that role

>> No.16237751

>>16237296
>How do you carry a pipe with you
i keep it in my manly purse. you do carry a murse don't you anon? all the straightest butchest men do.

>> No.16237772

>>16237608
>box press
Ruined

>> No.16237809

>>16236213
>hey guys wanna get together and suck some flaming brown cock together? send me your sexiest exhale pics bros

>> No.16237828

>>16237772
based

>> No.16237836

Corncobs are a pretty good place to start if you are going to smoke mainly aromatic tobacco. They can tend to impart a bit of sweetness to the tobacco and if you use the filter it can help with some of the goop that comes from smoking aromatics.
Once you start smoking Virginias, Burleys, and English blends without aromatic toppings, you will be better served with a briar or meerschaum pipe. They are more neutral in flavor and have better smoking characteristics that will allow you to better enjoy more serious or nuanced tobacco.
I still have my first corncob from 10+ years ago and although I don't use it often I will break it out if I feel like a bowl of 1Q or BCA or something along those lines.

>> No.16237846

>>16237836
This sounds like really interesting food and cooking

>> No.16237851

>>16237846
Don't you have anything better to do than troll threads you don't give a shit about? Stop being such a mother's basement beta cuck and get a life

>> No.16237853

how do i know if my cigar was plugged or not? the draw on mine yesterday was like sucking on a milkshake. not pleasant for me. would this have been considered plugged? it also kept burning unevenly, despite me touching it up several times.
romeo y julieta reserva real. not sure whether i had a dud or what. didn't even finish it, just was no fun at all.

>> No.16237864

>>16237851
Ohhh noooo did someone make fun of your super secret fedora cock sucking club?

>> No.16237868

I want to try some kind of tobacco, but I'd prefer not to break the bank just trying something. I don't particularly care if it's pipe, cigar, or cigarette (RYO or otherwise). What can you recommend for someone who wants to try smoking for cheap-ish, /tbg/?

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>>16237868
Sucking cock. Its how most cigar smokers start out. Its cheaper and you somehow look like less of a faggot, plus theres a smaller chance youll get cancer.

>> No.16237890

>>16236243
Pulli mululli

>> No.16237968

>>16237836
>Corncobs are a pretty good place to start if you are going to smoke mainly aromatic tobacco
Not for starting then, thank you. Unless you suggest to starting with aromatics

And to be honest some aromatics overheats pretty bad and corncobs are fragile piece of shit

The "start with a cornconb because they are cheap" meme should die. If spending 20/30$ more have such a big impact in your finance you shouldn't smoke at all and use that money to eat

>> No.16237976

>>16237868
You can find decent cigars in the range 4-10$ if you want to try them.

Smoking 10$ cigars regularly can be objectively expensive tho, but once you understand you like them you can try cheaper untill you find the best quality/price for you

>> No.16237977

>>16237968
Obsessed

>> No.16237983

>>16237968
to be fair, most anons on /ck/ are poorfags who can't even afford enough meat and chili's to put in their chili, forcing them to stretch their finances with fillers like beans and tomatoes.

>> No.16237984

>>16237977
> Corncob are good for starting
> Respond they are not good for starting
You're not very bright, aren't you?

>> No.16237987

>>16237868
Cigars are a probably a better place to start without making a large investment. It's a good idea to try and find a local smoke shop - they can get you set up with a couple of cigars to try, a cutter, some decent quality matches, etc. Barring that you could check out a site like cigars international for an inexpensive sampler pack.

>> No.16237990

>>16237976
Why put a price tag on cancer? Go all out

>> No.16237994

>>16237984
>My opinion is fact
Reddit mentality is really shining through

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>>16237994
>stop making valid points about my stupid and retarded opinions

>> No.16237999

>>16237996
Post your collection of briar pipes

>> No.16238009

>>16237990
You're gonna get cancer anyway, make sure to enjoy the ride a little bit

>>16237994
> Every opinion is equally important in my rainbow world

>> No.16238019

>>16236703
pipe tobacco is way cheaper, and its not very expensive to buy some ethanol, pipe cleaners, and tri tool to keep the pipe clean (it will build up residue inside and block the pipe if you dont clean it)

>> No.16238030

>>16238019
Everyday cigars are cheaper than smoking pipes for average smoker

You consume more pipes during the day respect to a 4$ cigar

>> No.16238034

>>16237968
I think most people starting out do tend to start with aromatics instead of Va-Pers or full-English blends. You are also more likely to burn out a pipe starting off until you learn proper smoking cadence - better to destroy a $3 cob. If you are smoking hot enough to burn our a cob, you are smoking hot enough to damage a briar pipe as well.

Also unless you are buying an estate pipe most briar you find under $50 will be pretty poor quality. Maybe a Morgan Bones will work if you don't really care for aesthetics.

>> No.16238040

>>16238009
Man I never thought about death like that. Hey man, grab a gun and go out with a real bang. May as well right? Do it bro.

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tasty, but my lighter broke after lighting it and it didn't burn very well

>> No.16238064

>>16238034
>I think most people starting out do tend to start with aromatics instead of Va-Pers or full-English blends.
You pull that out of your ass. Most people today start smoking pipes after cigarettes and only the minority start with aromatics

>. If you are smoking hot enough to burn our a cob, you are smoking hot enough to damage a briar pipe as well.
Completely false

>Also unless you are buying an estate pipe most briar you find under $50 will be pretty poor quality
This is also completely false. Briar in the 40-100 range smoke exactly like 200$+ pipes.

>>16238040
I don't enjoy shooting people, I'm not a defective schizo like you

>> No.16238073

>>16238064
>Briar in the 40-100 range smoke exactly like 200$+ pipes.
poorfag hands typed this

>> No.16238082

>>16238064
Not people, yourself. Youre gonna go out anyway right

>> No.16238095

>>16238073
I own both types of pipes. The meme expensive Dunhill were a gift because I would never spend more than 150 on a piece of wood. You clearly didn't have one otherwise you would have know that.

Those super expensive piper are merely for collection purpose for autist pipephile to stare at the wood grain
>>16238082
But smoking will make me live longer. What's up with your logic, are you clinically retarded?

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>>16238095
>dunhill
>i like paying $1200 for my basket pipes.

>> No.16238131

>>16236225
nah i juul

>> No.16238144

>>16238123
>i like paying $1200 for my basket pipes.
> It was a gift
What's up with your brain damage? posting is not mandatory anon

I don't understand what are you trying to tell me tho, but I also have a maigret from chacom if you don't like dunhill, which are both very good pipes btw aside fomr the price

>> No.16238205

>>16237976
Neat, thanks. So just avoid gas station cigars and try to find actual smoke shops for cheap quality.
>>16237987
Thanks for the recommendation

>> No.16238212

>>16238064
Even most people who smoke cigarettes are more likely to start with aromatics. Most places that sell cigarettes only sell drugstore blends like Captain Black or Borkam Riff which are aromatics. Most cigarette smokers aren't going to walk into a specialized tobacconist and say gimme a tin of Balkan Sobranie or Dunhill Elizabethan Mixture. Hell, I don't think most cigarette smokers actually know what varietey of tobacco they are smoking in their cigarettes unless they are rolling their own.

>> No.16238218

>>16237315

IIRC there was a massive study of like 70,000 smokers over the course of over 30 years, and it was found that cigarette smokers had a 70% higher mortality rate from all causes against control at the end of the study period. Meanwhile cigar smokers were only 7% higher and pipe smokers bizarrely enough had a 13% LOWER mortality rate than control.

>> No.16238242

>>16238212
> Most places that sell cigarettes only sell drugstore blends like Captain Black or Borkam Riff
Maybe in your country. The world is a very big place
The most common pipe tobacco I find in non specialized shop (if they have any) are non aromatic virginia + kentuky + orientals and that's what I found in the every place in europe

>> No.16238251

>>16238212
> Hell, I don't think most cigarette smokers actually know what varietey of tobacco they are smoking in their cigarettes unless they are rolling their own.
Yes, but once you go to a shop and ask for your first tin/bag and you say you come from cigarette they will not suggest you an aromatic or they will specifically ask you if you *want* aromatics

>> No.16238274

Alright /tbg/, what's your favorite cigarette and why

>> No.16238291

>>16238274
why would I smoke a cigarette when sucking a thick black cocklike cigar is much more satisfying.

>> No.16238295

>>16238291
This

>> No.16238313

>>16236459
we are the same, you and i

>> No.16238335

>>16238144
>very good pipes
so you admit to having shit taste and your opinion can safely be disregarded? glad we've settled that little question.

>> No.16238348

>>16236355
Yes, nightcap is a heavy latakia blend miles better than that Early Morning shite.

>> No.16238388

>>16238335
They are good pipes. Can you admit you are larping for whatever reason?

>> No.16238451

>>16236868
They still are
https://youtu.be/_bGF4MdDoVc

>> No.16238452

>>16238388
BMW and Kia are both good cars and anyone who disagrees is just larping

>> No.16238459

>>16238095
>Dunhill
didn't they quit the tobacco business because they were so embarrassed at all the death and disfigurement they had promoted all those years?

>> No.16238466

>>16236225
Cigars and cigarettes fill two completely different roles, you absolute moron.
Cigarettes are cheap factory floor shavings crammed into a cheap rolling paper with a bunch of other chemicals like arsenic (rat poison). People who smoke cigarettes INHALE them, and they are normally hopelessly addicted to nicotine. Cigarettes cause lung cancer.
Cigars are filled with premium tobacco rolled in a tobacco leaf, and nothing else. You DONT INHALE cigars, you let the smoke linger in your mouth and then you blow it out. And cigar smoking doesn't give you cancer as long as you brush your teeth and use mouthwash daily like you should be doing anyway.

Cigars >>>> cigarettes

>> No.16238476

>>16238452
> cars analogy
mother of reddit

>> No.16238506
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Cheers

>> No.16238544

>>16238506
what are you smoking?

>> No.16238548

How are B&Ms?

>> No.16238589

>>16238043
>he doesnt use matches

>> No.16238590

Cigarillos?

>> No.16238600

>>16238589
>he doesnt use cedar spills

>> No.16238604

>>16238544
Hearth and Home Blackhouse 10th anniversary. Not bad but I think I prefer the non-anniversary blend more since it seems more balanced

>> No.16238608

>>16238466
>And cigar smoking doesn't give you cancer as long as you brush your teeth and use mouthwash daily like you should be doing anyway.
Grasping at straws here. Cigars are less likely to give you lung cancer, but they still can. And what they are better for in terms of your lungs, they make up for in mouth cancer.

Meticulous oral hygiene has little impact when you constantly let carcinogenic smoke pool in your mouth.

>> No.16238618

>>16236703
>your tobacco might burn
Isn't that the point

>> No.16238651

>>16238608
Nobody cares

>> No.16238696

>>16238608
>Cigars are less likely to give you lung cancer, but still can
Citation needed, everything I've ever read has said otherwise.
>And what they are better for in terms of your lungs, they make up for in mouth cancer
Citation needed, once again.
>Meticulous oral hygiene has little impact when you constantly let carcinogenic smoke pool in your mouth
Citation needed part 3.

>> No.16238705

What are some major cigar brands that package all their sticks in cellophane? Only one I know of is Perdomo

>> No.16238741

I'm going to light a cob tonight just to piss off the pipefag.

>> No.16238757
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>>16238741

>> No.16238784

>>16238696
You're the one who needs a citation for your 45 iq midwit claims.
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/10218507/
>Our results suggest that smoking of European cigars, cigarillos, and pipe tobacco might exert a carcinogenic effect on the lung comparable to that of cigarettes.
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/10675383/
>Results from this large prospective study support a strong association between cigar smoking and mortality from several types of cancer.
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/25907101/
>Mortality risks from cigar smoking vary by level of exposure as measured by cigars per day and inhalation level and can be as high as or exceed those of cigarette smoking.

>> No.16238792

>>16238784
Again, nobody cares

>> No.16238799

>>16238792
>>16238651
I enjoy cigars myself, but it's makes all of us look like retards when flat earth tier waterheads spout off

>> No.16238822

>>16238741
> I will chip my dick off to make my wife mad
Big brain move anon.
Remember to post a pic you smoking a cob

>> No.16238823

>>16238799
I don’t care what other people think of me or my hobbies. Stop being a self-conscious faggot

>> No.16238902

>>16238784
Honestly by reading only the abstract it's not so easy to draw some conclusion, if you have the full article you might post the link also.

Seems rather implausible that something you don't inhale gives you the same probability of cancer.
We need to know how people smoke them: if they smoke them inside a room (very common) it's pretty obvious that you inevitably inhale the smoke and get a equivalent results.

What I can guess is that outside cigar smoker have a less incidence of lung cancer, it seems pretty obvious

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>>16238757
And to you as well my friend. kohlhase & kopp 2015 Le.


>>16238822
>> I will chip my dick off

Got enough to spare homie. Dwbi.

>> No.16238910

quit cigs 3 months ago for vaping. it's gay but it tastes better, it's cheaper and you don't reek terribly

>> No.16238929

I’m normally a cigar smoker, but I’m going to buy a corn cob pipe just to make the pipesperg seethe

>> No.16238935

>>16238784
I don't remember what articles was, but I read that the risk of cancer was proportional to the quantity of tobacco smoked, and slow smokers had better result because they smoke less tobacco on average

>>16238907
It looks like you didn't smoked it a lot.
Also looks like there are some teeth on the beginning of the mouthpiece, you're not suppose to give deepthtoats to your pipe

But a better mouthpiece, you look like a faggot

>> No.16238954

>>16238935
They're like $4 to replace. Hold it between my teeth while I'm mowing the lawn. Looks like you're an expert throat goat though.

>Didn't smoked it alot

Fucking ESLs.

>> No.16238967

>>16238954
I checked mine and it looks way more used than yours, and I smoked it no more than 20 times

> Fucking ESLs.
Thank god.

>> No.16238992

>>16238967
There's more then enough carbon built up to protect the cob. You don't think I can detect burning corn on the palate? This 2015 kk Le is fantastic btw. Yours looks way more used because you're smoking too hot.

>> No.16239036

>>16238935
>>16238967

Someone doesn't know shit about the thermal conductivity of carbon buildup.

>> No.16239059

>>16239036
explain

>> No.16239108

>>16239059
You don't need 6mm of carbon buildup to protect your pipe from burning along with the combusting tobacco. An EVEN layer is much more important than a THICK layer. If your rim is built up more than the rest of the pipe 1. you don't know how to properly pack it, and 2. you don't know how to properly light it.

>> No.16239121

>>16238954
>They're like $4 to replace

https://corncobpipe.com/product/slim-non-filter-bits/

I was wrong. 80 cents. I'll fucking chew through a bit a bowl for that price.

>> No.16239318

>>16238600
>he doesnt breathe fire

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Sup bitches

>> No.16239401

>>16238784
what kind of midwit unironically cites government propaganda on the internet? did fauci's follies teach you idiots nothing?

>> No.16239500

>>16238741
he's just butthurt he can't handle heat management and wants to project his own impotence on to others

>> No.16239504

>>16239318
>he didn't inhale his cigars

>> No.16239560

>>16237853
anyone?

>> No.16239565

>>16239504
>he doesn't braise his cigars

>> No.16239574

What surprises me is how little of a fuck people give about vaping. I thought everyone would give me shit but nah.

>> No.16239576

>>16238608
grilling creates carcinogenic compounds and then you eat them, wgaf

>> No.16239581

>>16238274
camel blues

>> No.16239600

>>16239401
We all know you didn't actually read through foia released emails.

>> No.16239613

>>16239560
did you remember to punch a hole in it? if so then yeah that sounds plugged. next time it happens get an ice pick and stick it in the end to open it up. you can also roll it around a bit in your fingers and see if there are any spots that are too hard, and squeeze it gently to loosen that spot up.

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>>16239560
Yes. Just buy a perfecdraw. Pays for itself with 2 plugged cigars. Honestly I rarely use my cutter anymore. Just the stick with my lighter and perfecdraw it a bit until I'm happy.

http://theperfecsmoke.com/perfecdraw/

Looks like its gone up by $10 since I bought one a few years ago, but still very fucking worth it. I use it to nub cigars too.

>> No.16239669

>>16239665
Just punch* the stick with my lighter

>> No.16239988

>>16238218
>Source
Ass

>> No.16240798

Niggers tongue my tobacco

>> No.16241020
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>>16239988
probably either the 1st surgeon general's report on smoking, or the british ministry of health study that came out a few years later and reported essentially the same thing.

>> No.16241330

>>16239665
perfectdraw feels wrong to me. sort of like asking for salt at a restaurant. like, shouldnt i be smoking the cigar as its creator intended for me to enjoy it?

>> No.16241349

>>16236703
>see large post full of information
>think this guy is going to get mobbed
>scroll down and see replies
Yup.

>> No.16241379

>>16241330
Not if there’s a stem plugging the cigar

>> No.16241382
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I dont care what people think or say, i like smoking my pipe, its very relaxing, and its the only relaxation method i have as i dont drink.

Nothing beats sitting outside when the sun is setting smoking a pipe.

Currently just brought https://www.ebay.com/itm/174561493863?hash=item28a4ad0367:g:SMsAAOSwknxf2i0i and i can't wait to break it in and watch it color over time. It's the simple things

>> No.16241392

>>16241020
that sounds a little biased...

>> No.16241393

>>16241330
cigars are never intended to be plugged since it makes them unsmokable. It's a matter of the roller making a mistake

>> No.16241556

not a pipefag but i just noticed that muttonchops is back https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kxVE1vKWzYw

>> No.16241572

>>16241556
Damn, his mutton chops have turned completely gray

>> No.16241929

>>16241330
The blender isn't the roller. They're getting paid a pittance + all the cigars they can smoke to roll as many as possible for the day. I ragebought a perfecdraw after I got gifted a monte no 2 from like 1996 and it was completely fucking plugged. Zero ragrets.

>> No.16242051

>>16239500
>can't handle heat management
That's your mother

>>16241349
It's 4chan, full shit opinions and shills

>> No.16242128

>>16241349
>>see large post full of misinformation

ftfy

>> No.16242138

What’s the best coffee infused cigar?

>> No.16242150

>>16236213
You can't eat that.

>> No.16242160

>>16242150
See
>>16236431

>> No.16242168

>>16241349
That's because his post isn't full of information, it's full of nonsense.

>>16242051
I know you hate this thread so you're going to troll but at least you could do so in a way that isn't obvious right from the start.

>> No.16242189

>>16242168
I still don't see any rebuttal for >>16236703

>> No.16242214

>>16242189
Cry

>> No.16242226

>>16242214
> I don't know what I'm talking about, better go full ad hominem
Like pottery

>> No.16242237

>>16242226
>noooo you can’t just insult me and disregard my retarded opinion
I think reddit is more your style champ

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>> No.16242253

>>16242237
You accused me of hating the thread you mental midget, I thought you had something to contribute with.
I never said I care about insulting you cretin

>> No.16242262

>>16242189
Then you need to read a bit closer. The guy thinks mm cobs are "reddit tier" when they've been a staple starter pipe ~75 years before fucking AOL pipe chatrooms.

>They are shit and especially the mouthpiece is such garbage that you need to buy separately a methacrylate

And yet, the most popular "upgrade" replacement bit is a propionate plastic bit for 70c from aristocob, the same material the stock bits are...

>Also looks like there are some teeth on the beginning of the mouthpiece

You're listening to a guy who is gingerly suckling a disposable bit. Bits get bitten, they get replaced.

>>16242138
Drew estate java.

>> No.16242564

What's a good pouch tobacco for me pipe lads, I'm feeling adventurous

>> No.16242567

Is anyone here from Montreal? Looking to try some pipe tabacco, any store you recommend?
Is pipe tabacco also sold at regular convenience stores?

>> No.16242775

i dont understand the point of toasting a cigar if you're only then going to apply direct flame afterwards to ignite it

>> No.16242875

>>16242775
The flavors you're tasting aren't exactly from the combusting tobacco. The heat from the cherry is slowly releasing oils from the unlit tobacco behind it. The HOTTER a cigar gets, the worse the unlit tobacco remaining will taste as the leaves are getting charred before they need to be. So if you just dunk the foot of a cigar into the flame and puff until its lit, you've fucked up at least 1/3 of your stick.

>> No.16242899

>>16242875
if i look at any video of someone instructing how to light a cigar, first they toast it, then they seemingly dunk it in the flames to ignite it anyway

>> No.16242957

>>16242899
Yes, but they're not actually igniting more than 1 or 2cm of tobacco. Toast then light puffs for ignition. You're not trying to suck the flame through the entire cigar.

>> No.16242984

>>16242775
>>16242875
It also has another purpose; by toasting the foot of the cigar, you're basically pre-burning it uniformly so when you apply the actual lighting flame, you help to ensure that it burns more evenly and you don't even up say, lighting one side more that the other, resulting in a bad burn.

>> No.16242991

>>16242984
>>16242957
something i read earlier said that the real reason you toast is to burn off any residual ammonia

>> No.16242997

>>16242991
That's another reason, though really it's best done once lit. There's plenty of reasons to do it but ultimately for me, I do it to help ensure a nice steady burn.

>> No.16243040

>>16242262
The only point you addressed is the corn cob and it was in another post.

Cornconb are poor quality pipes, every pipe smoker has one and knows it, that one nobody in their right mind smokes a cc as everyday pipe

It's exactly a reddit pipe: it's shilled despite it's poor quality by people who try to get into pipe and it goes good with ironic beard

You didn't even know how much a mouthpiece costed, sign you are not so keen on pipes

>You're listening to a guy who is gingerly suckling a disposable bit. Bits get bitten, they get replaced.
It gets replaced because they're cheap pipes. The only argument I saw it's how cheap they are, which is not related to smoking itself

>> No.16243072

>>16236243
Chuck's feed and seed

>> No.16243081

>>16242262
Also briars are more "staple" than cc which should gives you a hint

>> No.16243140

>>16242564
Carter Hall if you want a nice burley.

If you want to go flavored, Captain Black White (Virginia + Vanilla Black Cavendish) and Dark (Vanilla Black Cavendish) (Lane 1Q and BCA respectively) are llikely the most popular tobaccos sold in the world today.

>> No.16243199

>>16243081
For a starter pipe while you explore tobacco? Absolutely fucking not. Someone has never been on pipe irc and it shows.

>> No.16243212

>>16243040
Your entire post is nonsense and it sounds like someone trying to scare people off pipe smoking.

Pipe smoking is not more expensive that cigar smoking, especailly in the US where you can get a tin or a pouch for under 10 dollars in places. That will give you far more smoking time of a higher quality. Five bundle cigars will not last as long as the pipe tobacco in a two ounce tin.

The nonsense about pipe smoke being like 'hot air' or that pipe tobacco tastes better than cigars. They taste different, you may prefer it but to say that pipe tobacco is better than cigars, both of which have a load of radically different tasting tobaccos and cigars involved, is rubbish.

Pipe smoking can be great from the first time. I loved my first smoke even if it was hard to get it packed and I had to relight a fair bit. A month before it's good is nonsense. The idea that the tobacco is tasteless if you don't know how to smoke it properly is also rubbish. Even a complete beginner can probably watch a video, pack and smoke and get enjoyment out of a pipe even if it's not opitmal.

The idea that pipes are somehow less relaxing than cigars when once you're used to a pipe, it's literally effortless to pack and light it.

And your absolute obsessive hate of corncobs which does not reflect my experience with them or others. Add to that that all my briars show chatter because I don't care about it so to say that it's a 'cheap pipe' thing is rubbish. It's just a pipe thing. You don't have to spend $40 on a pipe to get a good smoking pipe. My first pipe was pearwood and it smoked perfectly well.

>> No.16243233

>>16242991
That may have been true in the past, but most decent domestic(noncuban) cigars are rolled with pile fermented tobacco now. This drastically cuts the ammonia offtaste. AJF talks about it here. I think I brought it up last thread. Thats the reason Cubans absolutely need YEARS of rest. They're rolled with significantly fresher leaves.

https://www.cigaraficionado.com/article/moving-mountains-18989

>> No.16243294

>>16243199
> For a starter pipe while you explore tobacco? Absolutely fucking not.
Because people meme cc as fist pipes. For someone into pipe briars is way more staple

>>16243212
> Pipe smoking is not more expensive that cigar smoking, especailly in the US where you can get a tin or a pouch for under 10 dollars in places.
Pipe smoking is more expensive than cigars smoking on average. You can find cigars under a dollar, that's a shit argument.

> Five bundle cigars will not last as long as the pipe tobacco in a two ounce tin.
If you don't smoke pipe it will last forever, again, that's a really shit argument.

> The nonsense about pipe smoke being like 'hot air' or that pipe tobacco tastes better than cigars.
Pipes pbjectively have less body than cigars you mongoloid

> they taste different, you may prefer it but to say that pipe tobacco is better than cigars,
If you are a retard that cannot distinguish a subjective argument in a broader objective one you have worse problem than tobacco. Still what is wrote in that post is correct.

> Pipe smoking can be great from the first time.
It can. But most probably will not, and that's a fact. You can search whatever blog/ty video whatever the fuck you usually visit and see for yourself
Just because you have a good first experience doesn't mean shit

> he tobacco is tasteless if you don't know how to smoke it properly is also rubbish
Absolutely true. You can burn the tobacco easily, you can light the tabacco unevenly, you can overheat your toungue and the tabacco will be tasteless.

> The idea that pipes are somehow less relaxing than cigars when once you're used to a pipe, it's literally effortless to pack and light it.
Bullshit and you know it if you are not a larper. Pipes need attention for keeping them lit.
Cigars don't, simple as that.

>> No.16243298

>>16243294
>walls of text
Didn’t read

>> No.16243300

>>16243212
> And your absolute obsessive hate of corncobs
I don't care for conrcobs, just calling bullshit when people suggest them as fist approach to pieps. They also are absolutely poor quality and the obsession people have it's only because theit affordability and calling also bullshit when people shill them as nice pipes

>> No.16243332

>>16243300
>>16243294
Again a load of nonsense. You're not going to be smoking longer, ie total amount of smoking time spent with cigars as you would with two ounces of pipe tobacco for the price you pay unless you're puffing away at your pipe at such a pace that you might as well be burning sawdust for all the flavour you have. Pipe tobacco does not 'objectively' have less body. I've had plenty of tobacco blends with a pipe that felt more solid and dense than several cigars, mostly the more oriental forward english blends. The rest of your post here is nonsense, like the idea that pipe smoking isn't relaxing. I honestly have to spend more time worrying about cigars and checking to see the burn rate then I do about a pipe which I can pack, light, tamp down as I go and maybe relight in about thirty minutes or so as opposed to worrying about a cigar caneoing or such. It's not a delicate thing which needs constant maintainence and attention, once you've got a good hand of it, you can light and puff away for ages. If I smoke while driving or doing something where I don't want to worry about things, I'll light a pipe, not a cigar. Your entire post here is also nonsense, as again your ridiculous obsessive hatred of cobs and insistence that you need a 40+ dollar pipe to have a good smoke. You simply don't and all of your nonsense is completely obvious to anyone who's actually spent time smoking pipes. I could go into more detail about it but why waste that time on a blatant troll?

>> No.16243354

>>16243212
>Pipe smoking is not more expensive that cigar smoking, especailly in the US where you can get a tin or a pouch for under 10 dollars in places.
On the subject of price, finding 50g of good tobacco under 15$ is really rare.

You don't have to compare how much does it cost smoking one cigar vs how much does it cost smoking one pipe.
Because of the lenght of smoking and the nicotine content on average a pipe smoker smokes from 4-8 pipes loaded with 3/4 g of tobacco. Cigars smokers smoke 1 cigar a day on average. With 5$ you can get a really fine cigars.

Outliers don't count, there are peole who smoke a tin of pipe tobacco a day and there are people who smokes 5 20$ cigars a day. Based on the average consumption dictated by satisfaction, smoking pipes is more expensive than cigars. That's a fact, it may not represent you but it doesn't meant it's not true

>> No.16243386

>>16243354
First off, I'm going to disagree. By American prices for instance there's plenty of good quality pipe tobacco that outclasses many bundle cigars and you're changing the argument. Now it's no longer 'more expensive' it's now 'well it's more expensive if you want the high end stuff'. Which is also quite debateable. We can also then go into other countries. Even places with low cigar tax like Germany, you can get more hours out of a tin of Samuel Gawith then you could for the five or so cigars you could buy for the same price (About two, three euros a stick). You'd have to be smoking something ike Toscanos to eek out a cigar of higher time/value to challenge that. And this is again also going by a subjective taste. Someone might enjoy the cheaper blend, or the cheaper cigar, but that wasn't the point being made.

>> No.16243387

>>16243332
>>16243332
> Pipe tobacco does not 'objectively' have less body.
It absolutely does.

> mostly the more oriental
that's really strange since oriental are used for aroma and not for body

> The rest of your post here is nonsense, like the idea that pipe smoking isn't relaxing.
It's way less realxing. But do not trust me and see how many videos related to pipes have people effectively smoking pipes vs how many cigars channel smokes while talking about cigars.
Because smoking pipes requires more attention, you don't generally talk during your smoking session because otherwise your pipe will go off


> It's not a delicate thing which needs constant maintainence
It is more delicate than a cigar. every sesoned pipe smoker can tell you that.

>> No.16243405

>>16243386
>Now it's no longer 'more expensive' it's now 'well it's more expensive if you want the high end stuff'.
No it's having a good stuff. The equivalent of a 5/8$ cigar
50g of good EM rarely cost less than 15$

> ou can get more hours out of a tin of Samuel Gawith
A SG is in the 15 euro price range

>> No.16243419

>>16243386
>You'd have to be smoking something ike Toscanos to eek out a cigar of higher time/value to challenge that
Becase that's a shit metric and not the real one.
The one you should use is nicotine or satisfaction per smoke

A satisfaction from a cigar can last half a day while for pipe doesn't last that long. That;s why you smoke more pipes than cigars, aside from the tobacco content

>> No.16243817

>>16243419
>>16243387
>It's way less realxing.
If you haven't figured out how to relax while smoking a pipe, you have a long way to go before you start giving any advice on the hobby.

>The one you should use is nicotine

So you just smoke to get your nic-fix. It all makes sense now why you are so angry at the world. Go chew some nicorette gum. Pipe smoking may not be for you.

>> No.16243845

>>16241379
then the creator intended it to be plugged.

>> No.16243858

>>16241393
there are no mistakes, just happy little accidents

>> No.16243868

>>16243817
>Pipe smoking may not be for you.

uppityfgr strikes again. He's not wrong. I smoke a pipe when I don't have time to unwind with a cigar. If I have to put it out, I put it out. Not a fucking chance I'm putting out a stick I've had sitting in my humidor for years.

>> No.16243896

>>16243817
>So you just smoke to get your nic-fix
nope, that's why I don't use corncob.
It's just natural physiology, if you are satiated you don't eat despite if you like food or not

>> No.16243906

What has this thread devolved into

>> No.16243910
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>>16241382
They color up nicely. Here is my 3-series 320 after a bunch of bowls. Smoking some McClelland 2020

>> No.16243925

>>16243906
americans being queers as usual

>> No.16243930

>>16243925
Seethe harder euroqueer

>> No.16243940

>>16236213
Everyone that likes tobacco should be doing skruf at all times. Its the best, strongest, healthiest way to ingest nicotine of all time. Also you left dip out of the OP.

>> No.16244090

>>16243940
>”Also you left dip out of the OP.“
>what is snuff

>> No.16244153

>>16243910
it looks dirty. you should try washing your hands sometime.

>> No.16244160

>>16236222
kek based dubs

>> No.16244174

>>16236225
based

>> No.16244177

>>16244160
LMAO NEWFAG SPOTTED

>> No.16244179

>>16236213
>food and cooking

>> No.16244182

>>16244160
>dubs
and a double digit iq

>> No.16244196

>>16237119
Rekt

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>>16236213
Bow down, /tbg/

>> No.16244287

Are Olivia cigars made using Dominican or Nicaraguan tobacco?

>> No.16244313

The only thing I smoke is weed, because at least I get stoned

Seriously, what the fuck is the point of these things.

When I was in Cuba I smoked "good" cigars and they all tasted like soggy brown shit.

Same with drinking Scotch or eating organ meat.

You have to be some kind of genetic defective to find these things appealing. Or you have opposite tastebuds compared to a normal person.

>> No.16244330

>>16244313
You have to 18 to post on 4chan

>> No.16244333

>>16244313
>When I was in Cuba I smoked "good" cigars and they all tasted like soggy brown shit.
You smoked a knockoff floor-sweepings cigar because you were born stupid
https://youtu.be/4hzsWGRX2_c

>> No.16244355

>>16244333

>No u weren't smoking the RIGHT tobacco reeeeeee

Seethe harder with your brown dick sucking fantasies

>> No.16244361

>>16244313
DUDE!

>> No.16244493
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Smoked a pair of these with a friend tonight.

>> No.16244566

>>16244493
AJF the goat. How was it?

>> No.16244584

>>16244566
it was nice :)

It was my first AJF actually. And it has me looking to learn more about how cigar blending works. What's the process? What exactly gets communicated to the person bunching the wrapper and filler leaves together? How much time does he spend developing a new stick? How many prototypes does he try before he nails a new one down? I would think it would be pretty easy but I'm sure there's a lot too it I'm ignorant about.

>> No.16244679

>>16244584
That cigar aficionado story I linked is the best article I've read on him. I unknowingly started smoking his blends about a decade ago when I was smoking cheap nestor plasencias and they were fantastic. Only good budget sticks I'd get from cbid bundles. I also picked up a real fucking expensive 3 pack of original release ave maria reconquistas, turned out he blended that too, and aged them until 2018. I've smoked the whole liga privada unicos line and had dozens of opus x and aged cubans, not too many high end davidoffs yet. That reconquista will blew 98% of them out of the water. I'd consider blowing the guy for a cooler full of them.

https://www.cigaraficionado.com/article/moving-mountains-18989

https://www.cigar.com/p/ave-maria-reconquista-cigars/1410709/

Not to discount any other blender though. Litto Gomez out at LFD, Dion Giolitto at Illusione, and Skip Martin over at roma craft are all putting out consistently fantastic lines as well.

>> No.16244701

>>16236225
>cigarettes are always gay.
>just smoke cigars you fucking flaming homo
FTFY. Cigarettes are for women and queers.

>> No.16244760

>>16236243
Buddy Galleria

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>>16237987
>investment

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thoughts on toscanos?

>> No.16246457

>>16246441
They're nice.

>> No.16247416

>>16246441
Mom used to tell me italians weren't real whites.

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>>16247416

>> No.16247566

>>16247485
Tony smoked CAO Maduro L’ Anniversaire robustos for a reason. Of course this is before they got bought out by General cigars/STG.

>> No.16247602

>>16238043
I picked up a couple of these to see what they were like
Not to my taste, but the construction was fine.

>> No.16247607

can anyone recommend a cheap lighter that i can fly with (checked is ok)?
looks like i wont be able to bring my torch lighter

>> No.16247647

Will snus give me just as much mouth cancer as regular dip and chew? Are cigars safer than cigarettes or am I still getting cancer at 60

>> No.16247670

>>16247647
>Will snus give me just as much mouth cancer as regular dip and chew?
No
>Are cigars safer than cigarettes
Yes

>> No.16247689

>>16247607
If you're going to be traveling regularly, prometheus makes torches that fully disassemble to abide by tsa carry on rules. I haven't used one, but my flat flame magma x is based.

https://www.prometheuskkp.com/menu/lighters

>> No.16247718

>>16247689
something like that wouldnt be worth it for me because i'd still need to go hunt down a bottle of butane after landing

>> No.16247743

>>16241020
>5+ cigars per day
you gotta be a seriously rich dude to keep up a habit like that

>> No.16247744

>>16247718
Just pack some cedar spills and light it with a bic then.

>> No.16247759

>>16247607
zippo

>> No.16247780

>>16247718
Just get a bic, you'll be fine

>> No.16247805

>>16247744
Never even though of that, good idea

>> No.16247810

>>16247743
Or they just smoke really shitty cigars. Besides, smoking more than one cigar a day (and even that’s pushing it) absolutely ruins your pallet and you won’t be able to properly taste cigars or food

>> No.16247911

>>16247743
My former boss smoked 5-6 cigars, a pack or two of cigarettes and the occasional pipe on a daily basis. I remember driving with him to a business meeting and ended up smelling like an ash tray by the time we arrived. He died at a relatively young age from pancreatic cancer. I did "inherit" several coolers of very nice cigars that he was hiding from his wife while claiming he didn't smoke.

>> No.16248274

>>16247911
>My former boss smoked 5-6 cigars, a pack or two of cigarettes and the occasional pipe on a daily basis
There’s no way he found enjoyment in any of that

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Good evening fellas

>> No.16248486

>>16248282
Cigar name?

>> No.16248545

>>16246441
>toscanos
Good cigar for pipe smokers

>> No.16248548

>>16248274
From the stories he was doing a lot harder shit when he was younger. There is something to be said for living hard and dying young.

>> No.16248687

>>16247416
My grandmother who’s pure Italian told me that the school kids would tell her that Italians are niggers that have been sandblasted white.

>> No.16248692

>>16248486
Looks like an Acid

>> No.16249462

Bump

>> No.16249491

Uh guys, what happens if I smoke the sticker asking for a friend.

>> No.16249498

>>16249491
it turns you into a reply to this post or your mother will die in her sleep

>> No.16249530

>>16247743
it didn't say 6+ cubans per day. swisher sweets and ramrods aren't that expensive.

>> No.16249553

>>16249530
Those aren't cigars.

>> No.16249862

>>16238030
Not even remotely true. You can get 50g of bulk pipe tobacco for 5 bucks. That's enough for at least a dozen very large bowls.

>> No.16249909

>>16238784
>https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/10218507/
The lung cancer from pipe/cigars/cigarillos were from individuals who INHALED. No inhale, no lung cancerino.
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/10675383/
>Results from this large prospective study support a strong association between cigar smoking and mortality from several types of cancer.

Not surprising, of course smoking anything will increase your risk of cancer. It's dose and duration dependent. Smoke 1 cigarette? No cancer. Smoke 3 cigars a week? Very low elevation of risk. And so on.

>> No.16249911

>>16249530
He had a propensity for Fuente - specifically Opus X - Padilla and Padron so, yeah, he was smoking a lot of cash away every day - probably $100+ even at the prices back then. He was also very generous and I got gifted a lot of stuff that I wouldn't have normally been able to afford just starting out in my early 20's.

>> No.16249934

>>16238784
>https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/10218507
>>Our results suggest that smoking of European cigars, cigarillos, and pipe tobacco might exert a carcinogenic effect on the lung comparable to that of cigarettes.

Glaring issue with this conclusion is sample size of cigar/pipe only smokers.
Pure cigar smokers: 58
Pure pipe smokers: 180
Some of whom inhaled the smoke on purpose. It's true that you will inhale accidentally a small portion of a cigar or pipe's smoke. But the data here do not adequately explain or support the conclusion that smoking pipes or cigars without inhaling will increase lung cancer risk.

>> No.16250265

>>16249934
Tbh i çan see why it has comparable results. While it's true that you don't inhale directly cigars and pipes the majority of smokers smoke inside, hence you still inhale smoke for hours

>> No.16250284

>>16236225
>cigars are for homos
>instead you should smoke something people literally refer to as 'fags'

>> No.16250336

>>16239108
Not only that, but too much buildup can actually cause problems down the road, as the different rates of temperature change between the carbon buildup and the material of the bowl (specifically the speed they expand/contract) risks causing damage over time. If it gets too thick, you can use the pipe tool to clean things up to a more appropriate level.

>> No.16250465

>>16250265
muttnchop piper (not a real source) said in a video the other day that cigarette smoke lingers a lot longer than cigars and pipes due to the paper and chemical content. i wasn't able to find a real source on that info but maybe someone else knows what he's talking about

>> No.16250468

>>16250465
said in a video i saw the other day, i mean

>> No.16250479

>>16237772
memes

>> No.16250491
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16250491

sup yer kunts

>> No.16250501

>>16239665
jesus christ what a fucking meme product
no seasoned cigar smoker would use this shit

>> No.16250503

>>16236213
Why would anyone pay to get cancer and smell poor lol

>> No.16250505

>>16250503
underage

>> No.16250510

>>16250505
you smell like you have no money

>> No.16250985

>>16249553
ah the old no true scotsman defense

>> No.16250989

>>16250465
he's wrong about that. he just finds the smell of cigar and pipe smoke more pleasant.

>> No.16251005

>>16250989
what he is right about though is that a good air purifier with a charcoal filter will completely eliminate the smell. I use a honeywell (I think it's an HPA330) with both the hepa and charcoal filters, and if I ever smell anything after a few hours then I know it's time to replace the filters. The one I've got can filter something like 500 sqft/min, and cost less than $300 at home depot.

>> No.16251161

>>16250985
>le logical fallacerino
>>>r*ddit

>> No.16251865

is this sampler worth picking up? https://www.cigar.com/p/ajs-chosen-ten-corona-sampler-samplers/1509796/#p-212111

>> No.16251893

>>16249862
You can also buy sawdust for even less

>> No.16251944

>>16251865
Everything AJ Fernandez is worth picking up

>> No.16251948

>>16251865
Looks good, but reading the comments you will want to buy a boveda pack and ask them to ship it in a bag with the sticks or they'll be dry

>> No.16251961

>>16250501
>seasoned cigar smoker

You really want to be part of the club don't you?

>>16251865
$4 a stick. Why not?

>>16251005
I'm looking at the new rabbitair when it comes back in stock.

>>16250491
>trying to flex with $30 kek

>>16250336
^this^ Don't you just love it when people out themselves as not knowing shit?

>> No.16251963

Which My Father sampler is the better of the two?
https://www.holts.com/samplers/all-cigar-samplers/my-father-fresh-pack-sampler-1.html

https://www.holts.com/samplers/all-cigar-samplers/my-father-fresh-pack-sampler-2.html

>> No.16251990

>>16251963
Buy both and report back. The La Gran Oferta is great.

https://www.holts.com/samplers/all-cigar-samplers/la-aroma-san-cristobal-92-95-rated-assortment.html

https://www.holts.com/samplers/all-cigar-samplers/la-aroma-de-cuba-best-sellers-assortment.html

Those are all out of the same factory as well, and one comes with a torch.

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>when it's box pressed

>> No.16252342

>>16251961
>this^
You seems lost son

>> No.16252345

>>16252342
You forgot responding to 5 posts at a time, all perfectly reddit spaced

>> No.16252401

>>16241572
probably stopped dyeing his hair during covid

>> No.16252433

>>16252345
Post cigars or shut the fuck up. Clover doesn't play nice with my phone.

>> No.16252474

>>16250503
>>16250510
imagine being loaded and being concerned that other people don't know it

>> No.16252482

>>16252474
many such cases

>> No.16252551

>>16252474
cigarettes smoke smells like shit, deal with it

>> No.16252828

>>16236465
for me, pipes fill a similar role as cigars but with better economy, and you can appreciate the construction and artistic style of your pipe. However, i do think cigars are better since they're more robust and "filling" in a smoking sense.

>> No.16252842

>>16248486
It is an Acid Earthiness. At least that's what the band said

>> No.16252876

>>16252842
I wish I could smoke Acid's since they have a really unique and interesting flavor profile but the herbal components cause my throat to close up and I enjoy breathing more than smoking by a small margin.

>> No.16252979

>>16252345
I don't know who are talking about schizo

>> No.16253408

Alright niggers, start posting your pipes/cigars for the OP of next thread. Make sure they’re centered in frame and the band is completely visible

>> No.16253760

>>16252828
>pipes are for poorfags
you aren't wrong though

>> No.16253949

Bump

>> No.16254309

I've smoked cigsrs and enjoy ashton's but I wouldn't say that I have familiarity with a wide range of cigars in terms of flavor profiles. Whats the best (and most economical) method of expanding my horizons?

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>> No.16254594

>>16254309
There's no economical way. Its a hobby that involves burning money. Just buy 5 packs online until you fill your stash and figure out exactly what you like and don't like.

>> No.16254599

>>16254594
This.

Or find a local shop/lounge and try something new each time. Despite what you see on this thread the vast majority of pipe and cigar smokers I've met in lounges are really cool people to just hang around an chat with.

>> No.16254603

>>16254309
Buy cigars in 5$ range, you have a good choice

For cheap cigars, try Toscano and short fillers

>> No.16255237

Shit man. I've never wanted to smoke in my life. Matter of fact, i've always had an inherent grudge against smokers. Always seemed like some dumb shit. But recently i've been so intrigued by cigars specifically, especially because you don't inhale them (i understand there are still hazardous effects to your health, however). I'm inclined to buy a single cigar just to try it out but honestly i'm afraid i'll like it. Always did believe you shouldn't invite evil into your life if you can help it.

>> No.16255375
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Anyone ever accidentally break one of their cigar boxes? Pic related

>> No.16255379

>>16255237
If you never smoked, chances are that a cigar will make you sick the first couple of time.

>> No.16255460

>>16254309
you're good. there isn't really a wide range of cigar flavor profiles. there's spanish style cigars with a handful of wrappers (the flavor comes from the wrapper so ignore the filler tobacco, it just makes smoke and nicotine), then there's the italian style cheroots (toscano, parodi, avanti) made with fire-cured burley and have a bbq-ish taste, and flavored cigars which will taste like whatever is printed on the package. that about it.

>> No.16255543

>>16255379
that's why he should stick to the standard corona vitola

>> No.16255876

>>16236225
what do billionaires smoke?

>> No.16255921

>>16255876
employees

>> No.16255958

>>16238030
How many bowls do you fucking smoke a day? At most I can do 3, but 90% of the time I only have 1 or 2. I have about 20 different tins of different tobacco that I pick from, some of which are from last year.

>> No.16255999

>>16255958
> How many bowls do you fucking smoke a day?
1, rarely 2.

>> No.16256010

>>16255999
Then smoking pipes, for us, is much cheaper than cigars. The only way pipe smoking is more expensive is if you're buying $15 tins and chiefing away all day.

>> No.16256043

>>16256010
> Then smoking pipes, for us, is much cheaper than cigars
For me (and maybe you) it is, but we are not average pipe-exclusiver smokers.

Generally a pipe smoker smokes between 4-8 bowls a day loaded with 3/4g . Cigars smoker generally don't smore more than 1-2 cigars but skewed towards 1, and talking about everyday cigars you find nice handcrafted cigars in the range 4-10$.


> The only way pipe smoking is more expensive is if you're buying $15 tins and chiefing away all day.
15$/50g is average for good pipe tobacco.

The thing is, you can go lower with both cigars and pipes, and to the extreme you can buy sub dollar cigars, but they obviously not very nice.

The difference is that you can go extremely more expensive with cigars, while you can't with pipes. But quality/price speaking, which is subjective but can be measured objectively, a tin for less than ~14$/50g is worse than a 4$ cigar

>> No.16256083

>>16256043
> Generally a pipe smoker smokes between 4-8 bowls a day loaded with 3/4g
And the people smoking 4 bowls, usually also smokes a cigar or cigarettes during the day

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Are Perdomo's any good? I only just started trying different cigars and Perdomo's Lot 23 is the only one that I've had so far. I thought it tasted pretty good but I really don't have a good frame of reference.

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16256220

went out and bought a pack of anticos. Very tasty

>> No.16256295

is there some trick to refueling Xikar lighters? i'm following their instructions but the butane canister spits everything back at me rather than it ending up in the lighter. i feel like the fuel valve might be busted.

>> No.16256378

>>16256295
Should just fill. You're not using an adapter tip are you?

>>16256129
10th anny champagnes are good to keep around for first time smokers. Nice solid mellow stick. I also like their factory tour blend. Nick Perdomo seems like a chill guy, but I haven't stopped by any events he's been at yet.

>> No.16256461

>>16256378
i'm using the xikar butane
it has a red tip on the bottle. it looks like it should Just Work.

>> No.16256527

>>16256461
It should. Xikars (used to) have lifetime warranties, so see if your shop will swap it out. That being said, their old budget xikar flash is fucking junk. Never had more problems with a lighter. If your shop won't play ball fill out a claim online. I buy cases of vector 14x filtered specifically because they have a metal fill tip, seems less likely to fuck up.

>> No.16256533

>>16256527
i bought from a third-party vendor on amazon so i think i'll just return it to them rather than wait for xikar's 4-6 week warranty processing

>> No.16256587

>>16256533
Probably the move. I'm in KC (where xikar hq is) so Diebel's has a working relationship with them. Nbd to go grab a stick and swap out some junk.

Might as well post this since Curt is a good dude.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eya3fcgychE

>> No.16256734

NEW THREAD
>>16256731
>>16256731

NEW THREAD
>>16256731
>>16256731

>> No.16256776

>>16237968
Corncobs are perfectly fine for beginners. They also have the added benefit of being very portable. If they’re good enough for MacArthur they’re good enough for anyone.

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>>16256776
>They also have the added benefit of being very portable
> t. Gandalf
I don't know if corncobs just arrived in middle-earth, but here on earth the most common straight pipes have more or less the same dimensions

>> No.16257075

>>16255543
And probably something on the mild side like a Macanudo or a R&J to start. I think one mistake that a lot of first time smokers make is starting with a Cuban cigar and they tend to be on the stronger side.