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>Raw Spinach
Usually vegetables are more nutritious raw, but raw spinach contains Oxalates which prevents absorption of certain nutrients. Oxalates can also cause muscle pain, kidney stones, and Vulvodynia for women. Garlic, broccoli, etc. should be eaten raw, but not spinach.


>Brown Rice
"Brown Rice Contains Antinutrients and May Be Higher in Arsenic. Antinutrients are plant compounds that may reduce your body's ability to absorb certain nutrients. Brown rice contains an antinutrient known as phytic acid, or phytate. It may also contain higher amounts of arsenic, a toxic chemical." White rice isn't healthy either, it's more processed and has basically no nutrients, just empty calories.

>> No.16219815

what is an empty calorie?

>> No.16219824

>>16219815
A calorie that hasn't eaten

>> No.16219825

>>16219747
There's no such thing as healthy food, they only chain us to mortal plain

>> No.16220335

>>16219747
The benefits outweigh the downsides apart from if you are ingesting an enormous amount of each.

>> No.16220347

Someone's been reading scaremongering mommyblogs again.

>> No.16220355

the only healthy foods are muscle and organ meats, eggs, and full fat dairy

>> No.16220368

>>16219815
a food that is largely made up of macronutrients like sugar or fat--has caloric-value but almost nothing re. vitamin or mineral intake

>> No.16220370

>>16219747
>White rice is more processed and has basically no nutrients
They re-add nutrients after the processing

>> No.16220455

>>16219747
>ITT: misleading nutritional information

>> No.16220734

>>16219747
Cum. Although high in protein and various essential nutrients, most cum available in the mass market today is from diseased animals that really should have been slaughtered years ago but are kept alive and producing through a combination of bureaucratic red tape and medical overprescription

>> No.16221014

>>16220368
So just a regular calorie but given a buzzrod name for wine moms to worry about? Why not just say no nutritional value? Or that it only has calories and nothing else?

>> No.16221036

>>16219815
The shell of a calorie

>> No.16221103

>>16221014
It's a calorie of energy that has no fuel source. These empty calories are irrefutable evidence that the law of equivalent exchange is simply an incorrect theory

>> No.16221150

>>16221103
>it's energy that has no energy

>> No.16221329

>Meat
High in protein but also high in saturated fat, heme iron and cholesterol, all of which cause type 2 diabetes and increase your risk to coronary artery disease and cancer

>> No.16221380

>>16219747
Salad. You ever read the nutritional info on salad? Nothing. Might as well drink some water with metamucil because it's just fiber and that's it.

>> No.16222260

Both of that is bullshit and soccer mom science.

Oxalate can interfere with your calcium absorption but in normal condition your intestine is perfectly capable of augment its calcium absorption capacity.
Especially if you are low in calcium. This said, it's not recommended to eat a lot of raw spinach but for normal consumption you don't have to worry about it.

For brown race it's the same both the studies (Jackson et al Br J Nite 94) for zinc and (Hallberg et al) for iron and phytate

If you keep eating food with phytate your body will adjust its absorption capacity.
Aside from that phytate prevent cancer and can probably get rid of arsenic with the same chelation mechanism.

Go choke on a dick retard

>> No.16222268

>>16221150
Maybe it's just tired

>> No.16222299

>>16221014
>Why not just say no nutritional value? Or that it only has calories and nothing else?
Because 'empty calorie' is more succinct; it's not some weird conspiracy of Karens, it's just a very clear and comprehensible expression of the notion that it is food energy with nothing else useful within it.

>> No.16222329

>>16222222
just curious don't mind me

>> No.16222340

>>16221103
Carb loading is great for runners. Rice and a condiments of your choice is cheap and effective.

>> No.16222389

Brown rice doesn't have as much fiber or protein as wheat or oats. Literally garbage food.

>> No.16222886

>>16220335
fourth post best post

>> No.16222950
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16222950

>>16219747
Vegetables in general, they don't even digest properly, like meat.

All though Schnitzel isn't the same without cucumber salad.

>> No.16223054

>>16219747
one of the biggest ones is coconut oil.
it contains much more saturated fats than butter and lard, but it's being pushed by many as an healthy food

>> No.16223319

>>16220347
>scaremongering
You're welcome to point out which fact you have a problem with. But judging by your empty reply you're too scared to

>> No.16223344

>>16219747
Almonds. Contain cyanide.
Blue cheese. Has mold in it.
Apples. Contain tiny almonds which contain cyanide.
Poblano peppers. Phytospices.
Potatoes. Prepared, they lose their skin.
Dill. Literally a weed.

>> No.16223354

>>16219747
Go back to Facebook

>> No.16223405

>>16219747
Broccoli should only be cooked. It's disgusting otherwise.

>> No.16223591

>>16221103
Kek

>> No.16223633

>>16219747
I tried to grow one of those watermellon this year. Got it to germinate but then it fucking died. I wanna cry.

>> No.16223732

>>16219824
underrated

>> No.16223945

>>16219825
Time to sun your asshole again?

>> No.16224039

>>16223633
sorry anon, try again next season. you'll get it! watermelons take a ton of practice and room to grow. the moon and stars yellow melon varietal was the tastiest melon i've ever had.

>> No.16224704

>>16219747
Fake meat is often touted as being healthy because it's began, despite being as processed as McDonald's.

Protip: radioactive waste is vegan.

>> No.16224829

>>16219747
Persimmons contain tannins which absorb nutrients and create little leathery balls called bezoars. If you get a large amount of this they get stuck in the stomach or colon and can grow to a large size - perhaps large enough to require surgery to remove.

>> No.16224845

>>16221329
Saturated fat isn't bad for you, in fact it's essential. Dietry cholesterol doesn't raise cholesterol. You're basing your diet on outdated science.

>> No.16224852

>>16223054
Saturated fat is essential for your body.

>> No.16224871

>>16222260
OP btfo

Also to my knowledge white rice is much healthier than most store bought breads which OP probably eats regularly.

>> No.16224884

>>16224852
Not only that. Despite the propaganda to the contrary, increasing the ratio of your saturated fat intake while keeping your overall calorie intake the same will result in a better HDL:LDL ratio. Not like that actually means anything, since "LDL is bad" is the third position of the moving goalpost.

>> No.16224899

>>16223319
not him but if you believe in “””antinutrients””” you should be castrated. What kind of hoop do you expect us to jump through in order to explain this to you? Your head is fucked. Brown rice tastes like shit but its not going to hurt you at all. Its just rice you mentally ill incel.

>> No.16224924

I always thought you guys were fucking with me, but apparently kidney beans are actually toxic if not cooked properly.

https://www.foodsafetynews.com/2021/05/how-to-avoid-poisoning-from-red-beans/

>> No.16224926

>>16219747
ask me how i know you have fat handles on your hips

>> No.16225258

>>16224899
You're welcome to prove antinutrients aren't real anytime, but judging by your demeanor you're too butthurt or scared to try.

>> No.16225290

>Vegan/Vegetarian/Keto diets
Tofu is not healthier than meat. Your cookies and breads without eggs and butter is not healthier. You are depriving yourself of nutrients and proteins and fats and lipids and amino acids. People who go of these diets become weak and malnourished. Putting a baby on this kind of diet is considered child abuse because it could kill the child. I saw a streamer keel over while she was cooking this week because she got "Keto fever" from depriving her body of carbohydrates and nutrients. Eat a hamburger.

>> No.16225311

>>16225290
>saw a streamer keel over while she was cooking this week because she got "Keto fever"
this I gotta see.

>> No.16225407

>>16225311
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K7b8AF_mNn0

>> No.16225617

>>16219825
Amen. Why would I want to prolong this hellish nightmare of consciousness? I will eat brown rice and raw spinach. Not because it's healthy, but because it pleases me.

>> No.16226113

>>16219747
>antinutrients

>> No.16226121

>>16225407
>streamer doing things for money
ngmi

>> No.16226127

>>16226113

>>16225258

>> No.16226159

>>16226127
don't care schizo.

>> No.16226190

>>16222329
Kek I was itt, was actually kind of a decent get

>> No.16226211

>>16221014
Empty calories are a genuine problem because poorfags in poor regions of the world basically eat a shittonne of empty calories and get disease and grow up malnourished as a result.

>> No.16226311

>>16225407
Did she just cook balony/spam and called it keto? Might as well eat cat food.

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16226356

>>16220355
What about peppers?

>> No.16226370

>>16226356
nightshade

>> No.16226371

>>16225407
>thot suffering
you love to see it

>> No.16227112

>>16222950
cucumber salad looks like shit
get a mandolin

>> No.16227587

>>16226159
Which is why you replied again. And still can't prove they're not real. KWAB.

>>16226211
Fags not knowing what empty calories means shows the IQ level of this place.

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16227624

>broccoli, etc. should be eaten raw

>> No.16227643

>>16227624
Yes, those are actually more nutritious when raw and tastes better too. I used to eat spinach raw before I found out about the Oxalates.

>> No.16227985

Rice in first world countries has vitamin powder added to it during processing.

>> No.16228016

>>16219815
When you run out of calories

>> No.16228025

>>16222950
>Having potatoes instead of more shnitzel

>> No.16228028

>>16224829
I got your leathery balls right here!

>> No.16228035

>>16224899
This. I thought the whole antinutrient horseshit was over 10 years ago when that wave of fad diets died.

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16228066

>aNtInooTrieNtz

Try eating more than 2k calories you tranny. Imagine eating spinach and your axe wound starts aching. You don't have to. Kwab!!

>> No.16228103

>>16219824
I laughed out loud

>> No.16228133

>>16228066
2000 calories are literally two meals. That's nothing

>> No.16228323

you cant say shit like that without sources OP

>> No.16228432

>>16219747
does "healthy" candy count? my friend bought some stupid low sugar/artificial sweetener gummies that taste like shit, don't have a gummy texture, and just makes you angry after eating more than one. Candy shouldn't be healthy, its like trying to make smoking healthy.

>> No.16228454

>>16228323
>sources
It's a simple google search. There's actually so many studies done by reputable universities, nutritionists, etc. even organizations that don't have anything to gain from it. And if you're still in doubt, ask a doctor or two. Faggots don't like that antinutrients is a real thing.
>b-but everything is faked1
There's too many credible sources agreeing that antinutrients exist than the contrary and denying this will make you a loony Flat Earther-tier conspiracy theorist. Discrediting everything will be just as stupid as discrediting all the common knowledge we know about our world from textbooks just because some info online can be faked. There's too much overwhelming evidence of it being a thing than the opposite.

Research > A random anon on 4chan


>>16228432
Yeah that's definitely a fake healthy food. Tired of fakeness

>> No.16228494

who the fuck eats spinach raw

>> No.16228499

>>16228454
gimme the ones you used, google searching provides all sorts of results

>> No.16228799

>>16228133
I fucking struggle to reach 2000 and usually don't, what the fuck are you eating

>> No.16229106

>>16228799
Stop eating child size meals.

>> No.16229115

>>16224039
I've got some regular moon and stars germinated. My crimson sweets are doing okay, a couple are doing well but the ones I transplanted too young are dead. I also have sugar babies, which did well last year and were delicious, I had so many I had to turn a lot of them into wine. I was thinkning this year I might try to freeze some and see how that turns out.

>> No.16229143

>>16228494
its called eating salad dumbass

>> No.16229653

>>16228454
>what's your source?
>google search

>> No.16230039

>>16228799
Stop basing your meals around carbs

>> No.16230075

>>16219825
this
reject worldly pre-turd
embrace astral sustenance

>> No.16230091

>>16220355
if you consider erectile dysfunction, heart attacks, braindamage and being smelly health

>> No.16230874

>>16230091
diseases like heart attack, cancer, diabetes, macular degeneration, etc. were unknown before the invention of vegetable oil (some of the content is redundant between the two, full disclosure)

if you want to spend 2 hours today that will improve your health for the rest of your life watch the following two videos

Dr. Chris Knobbe - 'Diseases of Civilization: Are Seed Oil Excesses the Unifying Mechanism?' https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7kGnfXXIKZM
Chris A. Knobbe - Omega-6 Apocalypse: From Heart Disease to Cancer and Macular Degeneration - AHS19 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pHnPinYI2Yc

>> No.16230885

>>16230874
>>16230091
btw for what it's worth, this is not to say that i'm one of those retards who thinks "it's all X". the truth is that the default mode of living in western societies is toxic in MANY ways, and vegetable oil is just one of them. the invention of vegetable oil coincided with the chemical revolution, whose effects in aggregate have undoubtedly been way worse. parabens, phthalates, pfas, pfos, cfcs, etc. industrial society is a blight on humanity and the planet.

>> No.16231189

>>16229106
I can't help my stomach's size
>>16230039
I should try and do this more tbf

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>>16230885
tbf agricultural society also massively fucked over our nutrition, way more than industrialisation ever did
random hunter gatherers are WAY more healthy than the farmers who live right next to them because they eat a ridiculously varied diet by necessity

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>>16222299
>succ