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Now that it’s summer, it’s time to bring out those gars to go along with the BBQ. Post and discuss pipes, cigars, cigarettes, snus, snuff, etc

>> No.16067334

>>16067310
>food and cooking
Do you eat tobacco? Cook with tobacco?

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>>16067334

>> No.16067350

>>16067334
I just barely don't eat tobacco

>> No.16067429

>>16067334
>Cook with tobacco?
you can! the BBQ Pitt Boys sprinkle ash into their beanless chilis!

>> No.16067588

>>16067334
i feel chewing tobacco could be used in barbecue sauce or marinade somehow, i've never myself experimented with it

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>>16067334

>> No.16069696

Marijuana is better

>> No.16069753

Neither food nor cooking; just an imitation of sucking cock.

>> No.16070266

>>16069696
>>16069753
Thank for the bumps faggots

>> No.16071023

Going through Gurka and Camacho brands. Enjoying both, what others can people recommend?

>> No.16071486

>>16067310
If you were a doopsday prepper, what tobbaco products would you stuff in your hiddey hole for later use/sale?

>> No.16071720

>>16071023
CLE cigars. The guy that started CLE was the owner of Camacho, after he sold it to Davidoff he started another cigar company. The CLE Chele is a favorite that I buy by the box.

Carillo cigars. The guy who owned El Credito (La Gloria Cubana) sold it to General Cigars and went and started his own company. The Carillo "New Wave" corona is a favorite that I buy by the box.

Davidoff. Expensive but worth it. Their Short Perfecto is a favorite that I buy by the box.

>> No.16071725

>>16071486
seeds

>> No.16071820

>>16071720
Thanks.

>> No.16072059

I head tobacco makes your mind sharper
but what can i eat that would improve my cognitive functions?

>> No.16072403

>>16072059
After a cigar at lunch, i find myself with greater focus, energy and willingness to work.

>> No.16072467

>>16072059
fish, eggs, olives.

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I love Raammennnn trips.

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>>16073734
c

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>>16073735
>>16072059
2

>> No.16074393

>>16067334
>Cook with tobacco
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GVwVss7bWLA

>> No.16074467

>>16067310
Will uncle Joe be targeting aromatic pope tobacco next?

>> No.16074537

>>16074467
already has.

>> No.16074674

Can someone recommend a tinned tobacco from each major blend/leaf type (Virginia, Latakia, English, etc)?

>> No.16074826

>>16074674
Virginia/Perique - McConnell Scottish Cake, Rattray Old Gowrie. Ignore the zoomers that recommend Escudo, its reputation was based on the Cope years, has gone to shit since changing hands and is no longer fit to smoke

Balkan - Balkan Sasieni, McConnell Oriental Square. Ignore the zoomers that recommend Balkan Sobranie, its reputation was based on the version made by Sobranie of London, the new stuff is something else made by somebody who bought the trademark.

English - Peterson Standard Mixture

Burley - L. J. Peretti Cuban Mixture, Wessex Burley Slice.

Scottish - Rattray Black Mallory, L. J. Peretti Pride of Loch Lomond

>> No.16074841

>>16074826
Latakia - Sillem Commodore Flake, McConnell Latakia Flake, Bengal Slices White

Red Virginia - McConnell Pure Red Virginia

Bright Virginia - Capstan

Aromatic - W. O. Larsen 1864, Rattray Orange Passion

>> No.16074914

>>16074826
>>16074841
Thanks anon

>> No.16076520

>>16067310
Bump

>> No.16076656

>>16076520
or just create a less shitty thread next time.

>> No.16076847

>>16076656
Cry to janny faggot

>> No.16077040

Can any other bongs give me a cigarette brand to try?

>> No.16077065
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opinions on e cigars? seem like a meme desu

>> No.16077093

>>16067310
Off topic, JANNIESSSSSSSSSS

>> No.16077134

>>16077065
>e cigars
How the fuck is that any different than a regular vape?

>> No.16077138

>>16077134
for the mgs memes

>> No.16077438

>>16067310
Camel kino

https://youtu.be/dp8h8_fjYug

>> No.16078241

>>16077138
>>16077065
There is one disposable vape that lights up like a cigar on the end but I can’t remember what it’s called

>> No.16078305

>>16067310
this is the most reddit picture ive seen posted on ck in a long time

>> No.16078458

>>16078305
Thanks for the bump faggot

>> No.16078464

>>16078458
just missing a shitty local distillery's whiskey and some funko pops :)

>> No.16078732

>>16067310
Does anyone ever just put a fresh cigar inside a BBQ smoker when they smoke meat?

>> No.16079372

>>16077093
>this is the guy that makes fast food threads

>> No.16079435

>>16079372
>noooo you can't make food threads on a food board

>> No.16080360

>>16078732
Have you done this? How does it affect the flavor of the cigar?

>> No.16081050

>>16070266
Get fucked.

>> No.16081237

>>16079435
/ck/ - cooking

>> No.16081567

>>16080360
I've never done this. I don't want to risk ruining the meat, so that's why I'm asking if anyone else has done it

>> No.16081581

I have an iqos, but I dislike that there's no flavored heat sticks for it. I recently saw this thing called "glo" and it's apparently the same concept, but with flavored tobacco. Does anyone have experiences with it/how does it hold up against iqos?

>> No.16081974

>>16081237
then get your fucking cancer thread out of here.

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>>16081974

>> No.16082107

>>16081581
I didn’t know people actually use those heat not burn tobacco things, did you use it to quit smoking?

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Bros why wont my cigar stay lit?

>> No.16082621

are they really going to ban my ACIDs?
i just want, my slightly upmarket flavored cigars

>> No.16082636

>>16082621
Yes, get them while you still can

>> No.16082656

>>16082636
Well that didn't ban casings when they banned flavored cigarettes right?
How much can Drew estate get away with?

>> No.16082686

>>16067310
I used to enjoy having a cigarette after a nice meal, booze or sex. Now I'm 5 months Nicotine free and honestly don't know if there's much of a difference other than the smell.

>> No.16083236

how do i quit bros
started smoking a few months ago due to stress from uni and working a shitty hospo job. since then i've been buying a couple packs a week. i don't even enjoy it anymore i just crave a cigarette first thing in the morning and last thing before i go to bed. nicotine sucks bros.

>> No.16083552

>>16083236
>started smoking a few months ago
>few months
Just stop for 3 days. After that it's all in your head. Better do it now because the longer you smoke, the harder it is to quit after you've integrated it into your lifestyle.

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>>16082001

>> No.16084656

>>16083236
Start using Swedish snus if you find that you can’t quit full turkey, it gives you the nicotine you crave and it’s way less harmful than dipping tobacco

>> No.16085392

Any worthwhile humidors that people can recommend? Tired of bying 4-6 cigars a week.

>> No.16085465

>>16083686
How are there still retards like you who believe tobacco is off topic? We've had threads for years now

>> No.16085697

>>16083686
>it has flavor

whats the problem?

>> No.16086005

>>16082107
I used vaping to quit smoking, then got the iqos because I kinda missed the flavor of tobacco

>> No.16086176

>>16085392
just toss a 69% boveda into a locking plastic container

>> No.16086246

>>16085465
>the jannies haven’t nuked tobacco threads for years due to incompetence therefore we get to exist
/ck/ - food and cooking

>> No.16086251

>>16085697
everything has “””flavor””” retard
cant wait to see the coin eating general

>> No.16086524

>>16086251
Kek

>> No.16086551

>>16086251
A coin is not edible retard
When you smoke cigars and pipe, the tobacco flavour goes on tongue and you swallow, no more different than a lollipop

>> No.16086568

>>16086551
only thing you're swallowing is bbc

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>>16086568
Seek help, you homo

>> No.16086647

>>16086609
says the guy sucking on a brown phallic object like a "lollipop"
soy guzzling faggot

>> No.16086670

>>16086647
I'm not the guy who costantly thinks about cocks when see something brown and cylindrical. You could have said "turd" but instead you immediately fantasies about black cocks.
Again, you may want to seek help

>> No.16086723

>>16086670
>the faggot has a scat fetish too
jesus stop exposing yourself like this

>> No.16086730

>>16086723
At least I'm not a interracial faggot like you

>> No.16086734

>>16086730
nice projection breh

>> No.16086761

>>16086734
> See a cigar
> Fantasies about black cocks
You're fixation is pretty clear.
Your projection of black cocks everywhere is something you have to discuss with your therapist, not here

>> No.16086766

>>16086761
calm down hernandez you’re the one smoking that bbc not me. get your mind out of the toilet

>> No.16086791

>>16086766
Seeing black cocks everywhere is not a sign of mental health.
Tell me anon, how many times you "see" black cocks in your day? How do you feel when it happens?
Remember we're not here to judge you, feel free to speak

>> No.16086877

>>16086791
nice deflection and cope wetback. r/comebacks tier. still doesn't change the fact that you smoking bbc

>> No.16086963

>>16086176
Shouldn’t the cigar not be directly touching the plastic? I’ve heard that fucks up the flavor

>> No.16087058

>>16086005
If you miss the flavor of tobacco just start smoking pipe or cigars

>> No.16087141

>>16082520
You dipped it too long in bourbon.
Try only 5 hours instead of 6.

>> No.16087374

>>16086246
The jannies don't nuke them because the official policy is that they're on topic dumbfuck

>> No.16088092

>>16067310
Bump

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>>16088092
kek what an amazing thread. truly scintillatingly on-topic.

>> No.16089776

>>16088149
You’re still here?

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>>16086877
>>16086791
Now kiss

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>> No.16091325

>>16091311
Is that pipe tobacco? It looks like it from the cut

>> No.16091444

>>16067310
all types of smoke are unhealthy

>> No.16091535

>>16091444
100% of people that don’t smoke cigarettes die

>> No.16092219

>>16091444
Hope you’ve never sat around a campfire before, fragile little man

>> No.16092283

>>16091444
Its less harmful then living in the city.

>> No.16092815

>>16087374
>/ck/ - food and cooking
the jannies are lazy inbred fucks

>> No.16092851

>>16086963
Only for shitty old plastic. Buy modern foodsafe stuff and it should be fine. Your cigars should be kept in the cello anyway plus if you're really concerned, just wash and air it for 24 hours before use. If you're REALLY super concerned, buy some thin cedar wood sheets and put it on the bottom and sides.

>> No.16092909

>>16067310
How do I know if I would even like pipe tobacco the first time? I’ve had one cigarette before and it tasted like shit, and dip makes me want to throw up

>> No.16092923

>>16092851
>plastic
>foodsafe
he took a sip of the goy-aid

>> No.16093013

>>16092923
Well there are some plastics that are way worse for you than others, but you’re right in that all plastics are harmful

>> No.16093710

Someone answer (>>16092909) please

>> No.16093735

>>16092909
You can go to a cigar shop and ask some general questions. You can get a perfectly decent pipe and some good tobacco relatively cheap. Pipe smoking is also more pleasant to smoke than a cigarette by a country mile.

>> No.16094524

>>16092909
Missouri Meerschaum Eaton $3.59 PMMEAT-PF-1000
Lane 1-Q $2.66 oz LBA-TB-1000
Silver 3-in 1 Tool $1.99 PM-TCT-1000
BJ Long 6" Regular Cleaners $1.10 PM-CBJL-1012

total: $9.34

There you go lad, $10 starter on Pipes and Cigars.

>> No.16095446

>>16094524
>Lane 1-Q
aka Captain Black. that's a good way to guarantee he'll hate pipe smoking.
>Balkan Supreme $2.89/oz
yes

>> No.16095545

>>16092909
If you've never smelt good tobacco before, it can be a bit troublesome to know. Generally many people like the smell of pipe tobacco over cigar smoke. I'd get something like a typical English blend and a beginner pipe, something like Peterson Standard Mixture or such, plus cleaners and a pipe tool, that way you're not out too much if you don't like it. If you can go into an actual tobacconist, try to but I understand that can be hard for many people (there isn't one around for me for 30 miles).

>> No.16095733

>>16092909
Get a MM cob and a tamp. Try an English blend, like Peterson Standard mix, and get an aromatic blend as well (Boswell makes great aromatics. Their English blends are also lightly cased). Pipe tobacco varies widely in flavor, even when disregarding aromatics. Cigarettes taste nothing like actual tobacco.

>> No.16096664

>>16093735
>>16094524
>>16095545
>>16095733
Thanks for the advice anons, I’m going to pick up a Missouri Meerschaum and Peterson standard mixture like you recommended. Any other good tobaccos for a beginner?

>> No.16096814

>>16096664
The two things for a beginner to focus on is technique and developing an understanding of flavours they prefer. Ribbon cut is often suggested because many flakes can be a bit hard for a beginner to light but honestly, it's not all that hard, and worst comes to worst, you can just rub out flake to make it easier to pack but you be the judge. I'd get a couple more English blends from other manufacturers, such as Squadron Leader from Samuel Gawith, Presbytarian Mixture, and Plum Pudding from SPC. Then I'd go into straight tobacco, so some straight virginia, etc. I'm not a fan of aromatics so I've never really explored them, other people can give you better advice. But for now, I'd just stick with the Standard Mixture and and see if you enjoy it. That way you're not stuck with a load of tobacco that you can't use.

>> No.16096995

>>16072059
My cock, trust me.

>> No.16097271

>>16096664
A MM as fist pipe is actually a horrible advice. Get one good pipe in the 50/100$ range

>> No.16097451

>>16097271
Why would you say that? He gets one for $100 only to find out he’s not a fan. What kind of goofball mentality are you running on?

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>>16078732
Why would you do this? You will waste the cigar and the meat won't change a thing.

>> No.16097484

>>16097451
>He gets one for $100 only to find out he’s not a fan.
So you are suggesting to buy a poor quality pipe to know if he likes smoking pipe?
MM are good for people who already smoke and know pipes
Smoking pipes is not a cheap hobby/addiction, saving some dollars in the beginning it's just stupid. He can also resell the pipe and get back part of the money

>> No.16097552

>>16097484
>t. Tea n’ Tobacco

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>>16081237
It’s toasted

>> No.16097578

>>16083236
Nicotine is barely addictive. You’re addicted to cigs due to your repressed homosexuality and your libidinal impulse to suck cocks.

>> No.16097607

>>16092815
Why does it make you seethe so much? All that govt funded anti-tobacco propaganda really took it’s toll on you people.

>> No.16097666

>>16097578
>Nicotine is barely addictive
You're kinda right. After quitting for a couple of weeks you barely want nicotine. What really is addicted for me is the feeling of filling the lungs with creamy smoke

>You’re addicted to cigs due to your repressed homosexuality and your libidinal impulse to suck cocks.
If you think that a cigarette resemble a normal penis i kinda feel sorry for you and you should just start smoking

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For me, it's charging up the ol' 18650s and puffing on some pic rel

>> No.16097734

How do I get into cigar smoking

>> No.16097800

>>16097734
Buy a cigar and smoke it.

Joking aside, there's a few things to take note of if you want the best experience. First off, it depends on where you live. If you're in the US, Germany, etc happy days. Some places tax cigars ridiculously heavily so you need to be more careful with your purchases. For a first cigar, you want something that's well made but not too expensive and doesn't have a crazy flavour profile. Maybe you'll end up really liking a very heavy obscuro wrapped strong cigar right from the start, but most people suggest you start with something mild and middle of the road, then try other things to find out what sort of cigars you like and those you don't.

Most cigars need to be cut before lit. Machine made cigars typically don't, but they're not quite the same thing (though some like Toscano Classicos are very good, but I digress). You can get a cheap cigar cutter or punch from most places that sell cigars and that'll last you for a while. The more expensive ones will keep an edge for longer and have less difficulty in trimming cap off the cigar. Speaking of, when you're cutting a cigar, look at the end. You'll see a tiny circle of tobacco pasted over the end of the cigar. That's the cap. When you cut a cigar you want to basically make a whole in the cap. Don't cut above it, you'll remove excess tobacco and potentially cause the cigar to unravel on you as you smoke it. Using a punch is the same general thing. Pick the size hole you want and punch it into the cigar. Typically you want a decent sized one, there's debate about what size hole is best, but for the first time, just go with once that removes most of the cap, the small punches only really come with one anyway.

When you're lighting a cigar, you basically want to first char the foot (end that you light) of a cigar and get it burning so an eighth of an inch is lit and glowing, slowly rotating and making sure it's even all around. This will help the cigar burn consistently.

>> No.16097802

>>16097552
I didn't know who this guy was, but he looks like the soy meme pic.
Btw it the standard non-retarded suggestions for new pipe smokers

Smoking pipe pays off after a couple of months, doing it with a lot quality pipe is plain retarded.
If you want to know X you have to do and pay for X, sometimes there are no shortcuts

>> No.16097842

>>16097800
If the cigar starts to burn unevenly, just sit it down for a bit, and see it if evens out. If it still burns unevenly, just light the wrapper until you've evened out where it hasn't burned.

For the size of a cigar, I'd go for a robusto or corona, both are fairly normal cigar sizes and should last you about an hour of smoking, maybe more, maybe less. While you're smoking it, you want to take a puff maybe once a minute or so. Maybe a little more, maybe a little less. But don't puff away like crazy on it or let it go out. To ash the cigar, just let the ash fall off naturally, don't tap or knock it off.

If the cigar goes out, you can relight and refresh it. Just basically light it up around the unburnt tobacco and then hold it up to a flame and blow gently. That'll ignite some of the gases within the cigar and it'll taste better afterwards.

If you haven't smoked cigars before, even if you smoke cigarettes or such, I'd make sure I was drinking it with something sweet. A soda, or juice, or coffee with sugar or such. Cigars do contain a lot of nicotine and even someone like me who has been smoking pipes for years got some nicotine nausea from my first few cigars when I was getting into them properly. Alternatively smoke them after a meal, or have a sweet thing to eat with some unsweetened drink. A bit of chocolate or such. The sugar will help counteract the nicotine.

Don't inhale cigars. Just take the smoke into your mouth, taste it and blow it out. There's all sorts of tricks you can do to taste it better but for now, just relax and enjoy the smoke. When it comes to the end of the cigar, just put it down and let it go out, or if you want to keep smoking it in the nub, you can.

Price point, you'll want to go for around a five to ten dollar cigar as a first one as this is cheap enough that if you don't like it, it's not a loss, but good enough that it'll have decent construction. Bundle cigars can often not smoke well and need a bit of fiddling.

>> No.16097870

>>16097712
All the delicious vape juices out there and you pick that one, huh?

>> No.16097886

>>16097842
If you can, go to a proper tobacconist and ask them for a recommendation. If you're lucky enough to have an actual cigar lounge, it's a good place to try one out with someone to help you light it and show you the ropes. However, if you can't, there's plenty of places online that send you cigars. If you want to order more than one, just get a small selection of cigars around that price point, maybe some bundle cigars to try out and broaden your taste into different things.

Now, if you think you like cigars, and you want to have some around whenever you want, you'll want to get a humidor of some kind. If you want a cheap one, get a air tight container of some kind (if plastic, make sure it's food safe, and air it out before hand), and a boveda pack of the right humidification, plus a hygrometer. Cigars have to be kept at the right humidity to avoid them drying out and loosing their oils, that's why you want to keep cigars in a humidor and not just, say, stuck in a desk or such. Now, if you live in a place where it's regularly high humidity, this may actually work out alright, but why risk it? Furthermore, cigars can actually get too humid and this will make them harder to light, harder to smoke, burn hotter as they do smoke, etc. It's a bit of a meme but boveda packs really do help with this and while the people who make them really don't like it when people mention it, you can rehumidify them by soaking them in distilled water for a few days. Stick your cigars into container, add the boveda pack and the hygrometer. You want somewhere between 65 and 72 humidity though again there's argument about what's the precise humidity you want and how different cigars from different regions react, etc. Point is, if it's in that zone, the cigars are fine. Traditional humidors are fine too, but they're less stable and you'll need to watch and make sure the humidity stays correct in them more often as they're not air tight. I have a small traditional desktop humidor...

>> No.16097890

>>16097802
Corn cobs don’t smoke any worse than briar pipes to make a difference. You either like smoking pipe or you don’t, and the pipe material won’t change that. Telling people to spend $100 on something they may not like is retarded when they can spend $5 on something similar

>> No.16097912

>>16097886
...where I keep cigars that I want to smoke soon or whenever and I keep the rest stored in food containers for long term storage. If you get a wooden desktop humidor, you'll need to season it first so the wood has the right moisture content. Again, loads of ways to do this, I'd say just buy the suitable boveda and chuck it in, then stick the cigars in afterwards with the proper 65/69/72 pack.

One final bit of advice. When you order cigars, they can go through humidity/temperature changes in transit and even if stored perfectly at the shop can end up being a bit off when they get to you. You want to rest cigars when you get them through the post, at least for a day. Some people say a week, some people say a month, again lots of debate, but a lot of the time there is a notable difference between a cigar smoked the day it arrives and one smoked a week later in flavour and ease of smoking. If you build up a stash of cigars over time, it shouldn't be a hardship to wait.

If you're getting into cigars that much, you may want to look into a dedicated lighter and a better cutter. Honestly most methods of lighting will work fine. The thing you want most is a consistent, easy to maintain flame. I used a candle for a good few months because I lit my pipes with matches and a zippo lighter. Now I've got another butane lighter which produces a soft flame that I use for cigars and pipes. I don't think there was anything wrong with the zippo, it just wasn't easy to light a cigar with and matches burn out too quickly to do that consistent light. But again, that's not neccesary.

This is a pretty comprehensive series of posts here, and it really is as easy as sticking it in your mouth and lighting it up if you want it to be, but for most people, this is everything you need to know about getting into cigars. Don't overthink it too much.

>> No.16097964

>>16097912
You seem like you know a lot about cigars, what are your thoughts on using cedar spills to light them? I know lighters can fuck up the flavor and burn the cigar if you use them wrong

>> No.16097979

>>16097964
I've tried it on a lark, and basically never got great results with it. It basically was like using matches. Maybe it would work better on smaller cigars like panatellas, but for me, they just burnt out too quickly. As for the lighter thing, this is again something of debate, but most people will be lighting their cigars with a lighter and there's all sorts out there. As for the flavour being impacted, I lit my pipes with a zippo for years and only got a faint whiff of fluid that faded almost instantly at the most. As long as you're running clean butane and lighter fluid and not using a zippo with petrol or such in it, I personally think most people aren't going to be able to tell.

>> No.16098166

>>16097890
> Corn cobs don’t smoke any worse than briar pipes to make a difference.
Yes they do. If I had listened to idiots like you I would had quit pipes after a couple of weeks

>> No.16098460

>>16098166
Cobs don’t require a break in period. They don’t ghost aromatics. It’s pretty clear you’ve never even used a corncob pipe. I’ve smoked both cob and briar and the difference in taste quality between them is negligible, especially for brand new pipe smokers. Three different people recommended a corncob as a good first pipe, and yet here you are being a complete idiot saying “Spend $100 on something you may not like bro”. Curb your faggotry

>> No.16098603

>>16098460
>They don’t ghost aromatics
true, the aromatics ghost the cobs, not the other way around.

>> No.16098793

>>16097666
>If you think that a cigarette resemble a normal penis i kinda feel sorry for you
I think it resembles your penis

>> No.16100442

>>16098793
Why are you thinking about his penis?

>> No.16100471

>>16071486
>for later use
lot of rolling papers, filters and some nice bags of tobacco
>for later sale
as many packs of cigs as i can afford/find

>> No.16101067

Why would a cob not be a good beginner's pipe?

>> No.16101078

Regular smoker, but looking to go to a new lounge for a celebratory, special cigar, any ideas? When talking high end I always enjoyed the best maduros like Padron, but I might swing for a different wrapper this time, maybe a fancy Sumatra or Cameroon as I don't have many of those at home.

>> No.16101646

>>16097734
Fuck that dude with wall of text.

>buy a light colored cigar of short/med length and thickness (ring gauge), id recommend Camacho
>Get a decent double-cut cigar cutter
>get a used cigar box woth cedar mat inside
>look up where to cut the cigars
>cut it
>Snap bits off the thin wooden mat, light that with a match and use the strip of wood to light your cigar
>Turn the cigar while lighting
>set aside an hour to smoke with a nice drink and maybe a book
>smoke it slower than you think
>if you have to spit while smoking you fucked up somewhere
>Dont inhale in to lungs

That is it, it is not hard but easy to ruin.

>> No.16101704

I want a cigar that's mostly tobbaco with a little weed in it. Just enough that it takes a while to get high, having to enjoy the whole cigar. Even a cigarillo. Something that looks nice, not like it was rolled by your roommate.

>> No.16101719

>>16101704
Why?

>> No.16101724

>>16101719
I rarely smoke weed but when I do, I feel like I could also be having a cigar. I dont know. Does such a thing exist? I live in a legal state.

>> No.16102053

>>16101646
That's what he said, except he went into more detail for if you actually want to keep cigars around and how to deal with any issues that arise. So no, fuck you.

>> No.16102056

>>16101724
No. In fact, the FDA just banned flavored cigars, and that would count as a flavored cigar.

>> No.16102313

>>16101724
Just smoke black and milds, with the nig-lip-tip.

>> No.16102329

>>16101724
Learn to roll your own cigars and you can make them for yourself.

>> No.16102617

>>16101067
It is. Don’t listen to somebody who tells you otherwise. They’re cheap and they smoke just fine, any difference between a corncob and a briar could only be noticed by longtime pipe smokers or the schizophrenic. A Missouri Meerschaum is a solid starter pipe, and you can find one for less than $10.

>> No.16102667

>>16102617
Yeah I have one and love it.
Was just wondering if he had any actual arguments or not.

>> No.16102939

how are montecristo cigars. meme or good

>> No.16103305

>>16100471
>packs of cigs
Any particular brand?

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>>16098460
>Cobs don’t require a break in period
And that's bad if you want to learn how to smoke pipes

>They don’t ghost aromatics.
If you like aromatics maybe you should vape instead os smoking pipes

>It’s pretty clear you’ve never even used a corncob pipe
Wtf, are you seriously telling me I'm larping about a 5$ pipe? Are you retarded?

>ve smoked both cob and briar and the difference in taste quality between them is negligible
It's not. Both in leaning how to smoke and flavour wise

>Three different people recommended a corncob as a good first pipe,
Three people are retarded, that must be shocking for you

>“Spend $100 on something you may not like
Spend what it takes to leant what it is. If you don't want to spend don't start smoking pipes. If you want to drink good wine ad a hobby you don't start with the cheapest one you mongoloid

>> No.16103566

>>16103423
Faggot

>> No.16103778

>>16103423
>walls of text telling numerous people their own personal experience is wrong
Filtered

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>>16103423
Ayy i got the exact same pipe.

New pipe smokers should start with a corncob to see if they even like it. If they like it, switch to a cheap briar since they hold up better untill they learn to pack and smoke properly. I burned out 2 cobs when i first started.

Nothing wrong with aromatics. Ur just a fag

>If you want to drink good wine ad a hobby you don't start with the cheapest one
Try them all. Cheap and expensive. It's a taste test to see what you personally like. The cost should not be an issue especially for something as cheap as tobacco

>> No.16104433

>>16104112
>Ayy i got the exact same pipe.
I bought it after my first two pipes. To this day i don't remember the last time I smoked with it
>New pipe smokers should start with a corncob to see if they even like it.
New pipe smokers should start with a good mid range pipe to know if they like it.

>If they like it, switch to a cheap briar since they hold up better untill they learn to pack and smoke properly.
New pipe smoker should start with cheap briar, there's no reasons to start with a pipe/non pipe. That's just retarded

>I burned out 2 cobs when i first started.
Because cobs are not briar. So you get bad habitat for starting.

>Nothing wrong with aromatics. Ur just a fag
You're a fag. If you don't like tobacco don't smoke a pipe and eat a cookie or a fruit faggot. Especially with some particular aromatics your pipe will absorb that shit and you have to smoke 10 pipes of cigars top to clean it. I don't even think about having a pipe for aromatic, that's for pure Virginia

>Try them all. Cheap and expensive
If you want to know what is smoking pipes, starting with cobs it's a terrible advice. Of you want to know if you like smoking pipes you have to start with a good pipes.
Go fuck you and your faggot aromatics

>> No.16104493

>>16104433
>more walls of text
>reddit spacing
Couldn’t be any more obvious

>> No.16104556

>>16067310
I like the G.3 snus from Swedish Match. It gives solid flavor and nicotine without any hassle.
I can have a cigarette every now and again if I want to, and I just go back to snus without craving cigarettes.
The last cigarette I had was about a year ago.

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>>16104493

>> No.16105603

How do you guys season your humidors?
Have you ever done it with liquor?
What methods do you find intensify the flavors?

>> No.16106419

>>16101704
Roll with pipe tobacco, I do it often.

>> No.16106512

>>16067310
Fellow tobakino

>> No.16106598

>>16104433
I've been pipe smoking for seven years and there's literally nothing wrong with corn cob pipes. They're absolutely fine and for the price per performance they're absolutely the best. Why, if someone isn't sure they like smoking pipe tobacco, would you tell someone to pay £50 for a briar? I've never paid that myself; all of my briars are factory seconds aside from a GG Poker which, while nice, doesn't smoke any better than a corn cob (and bought second hand but unused for less than retail cost). You seem to have a really weird idea. I've also never burnt out a pipe and I started with a cheap briar but to be quite frank if I had to do it again, I would go for a Missouri Meerschaum.

>>16105603
Seasoning a humidor just means you're getting the wood to the right humidity level so when you put cigars inside it doesn't suck up the moisture and dehydrate them. I have never, in my life, heard of anyone using spirits to season a humidor and I imagine that's a great way to fuck up both the humidor and any cigars you put in it.

>Intensify the flavours

You mean 'make the cigars taste like whisky/rum/etc?'

>> No.16106624

>>16104758
>nooooo stop insulting me and my reddit faggotry

>> No.16106657

>>16106598
Look man, I just wanted to talk about humidors but you acted like a nigger.
I know what seasoning is, I was asking others what methods they prefer using because there's many.
There's plenty of people who put a small container of liquor in their humidor. It is not shown to fuck up the humidor and usually infuses the cigars with the flavor of the liquor.
I'm talking about intensifying the flavors of the liquor into the cigar, not the actual tobacco you cunt. Are you daft?

>> No.16106661

>>16106598
>I've been pipe smoking for seven years and there's literally nothing wrong with corn cob pipes
I never said that, read again my posts.

>They're absolutely fine and for the price per performance they're absolutely the best.
Olive wood is better for price/performance

>Why, if someone isn't sure they like smoking pipe tobacco, would you tell someone to pay £50 for a briar?
Because smoking pipes is done through briar, it's not that hard you idiot

>I've never paid that myself
The fact that you didn't even spend 50£ for a pipe tells a lot. What would you think about someone who tells you he didn't spend more then 5$ for a bottle of wine in 7 years and calls himself a wine enthusiast?

>You seem to have a really weird idea
You seem to have a really weird idea about what smoking pipes is. I don't care how/what you smoke, but since we're here, you choose go cheap instead of learning and you are suggesting something based on a experience you don't have.
Doing things for years doesn't mean shit if you never explore how to do things.

>I started with a cheap briar but to be quite frank if I had to do it again, I would go for a Missouri Meerschaum.
So you did what I'm suggesting.

>>16106624
Take your meds you paranoid schizo

>> No.16106667

>>16072403
Yeah willingness to suck your bosses dick for another 4 hours

>> No.16106687

>>16106657
When did I act 'like a nigger'? I have never heard of anyone pouring spirits directly into a humidor. Furthermore, if you want to smoke a cigar that tastes like whisky, then the intensity of the whisky flavour will be entirely based on how much whisky is in the cigar itself. Of all the ways of infusing a whisky flavour into a cigar, putting them into a humidor that's had spirits poured into it seems like one of the silliest ways to do it, especially if you keep the cellophane on. If you want to intensify the flavour, I'd suggest buying bundle cigars of a decent quality and look for ways to directly infuse them, rather than ruin a humidor by slugging whisky or rum inside of it (also a waste of the spirits there).

>>16106661
Smoking pipes isn't just done through briar. Briar makes good pipes and aside from one clay pipe, all of mine are briar but for a pipe, mechanical function is the crucal importance for a good smoke. If the pipe draws well without issues then it is good for smoking. More expensive pipes only exist for 1. the grade of the wood involved. 2. The brand of the pipe in question and 3. The quality of workmanship and further embellishment, etc. An old Dunhill pipe that's never been smoked and has laid untouched since the 1920s with the craftmanship and high grade of briar does not transform tobacco into something amazing. The tobacco smoked in that pipe and a MM Corn Cob will by and large taste the same. The Dunhill will probably be of a higher standard of manufacturing but both pipes will provide a perfectly pleasant, easy smoking experience and I have smoked very expensive pipes from time to time. They are well made, but smoke about the same as mine. For a beginner, it's far better to start on a cheaper, consistently made pipe that performs well, and MM fits the bill perfectly. Furthermore, again, he doesn't know if he likes tobacco or not, so if it turns out it's not for him, he can chuck it out without feeling like he's lost money.

>> No.16106691

>>16106687
And no, I didn't 'do what you suggesting', My first pipe was a ten pound, no name pocket briar basket pipe. It smoked perfectly decently but a MM would have had a larger stem, larger bowl and overall would have offered a better starting point.

>> No.16106757

>>16106661
>he’s still reddit spacing
We all know where you came from

>> No.16106771

>>16106757
Reddit spacing isn't a thing, so please knock it off. It also allows him to deflect from his bad advice.

>> No.16106782

>>16106687
>Briar makes good pipes and aside from one clay pipe, all of mine are briar
Then you should start with a briar. I don't understand how can you be so retarded


>An old Dunhill pipe that's never been smoked and has laid untouched since the 1920s with the craftmanship and high grade of briar does not transform tobacco into something amazing.
That why I didn't suggest a Dunhill or a high end Chacom you mental midget, but a mid range briar pipe

>For a beginner, it's far better to start on a cheaper, consistently
No, it's better to start with a normal pipe because that's what he will end up with

>Furthermore, again, he doesn't know if he likes tobacco or not,
Smoking pipe is not only about tobacco.

>>16106691
>My first pipe was a ten pound, no name pocket briar basket pipe
So a briar pipe, exactly what I'm saying from the beginning

>MM would have had a larger stem, larger bowl
You can have all of those in briar pipes, i don't get what are you trying to say

>>16106757
I get that you are strangely fixated with reddit that you can't write anything else for 3 post. I would give you an upvoat since you are trying desperately to fit in, but I can't

>> No.16106793

>>16106687
And btw you with 50£ you can get a very good pipes like a Savinelli (even less for a not perfect) so bringing up meme high prices pipes doesn't make any point

>> No.16106860

>>16106782
Because an MM is superior to a briar for the same price range. An MM can be had for ten dollars or less. A new briar pipe of the same dimensions cannot. Furthermore there is nothing that smoking a briar teaches you that an MM does not. If you smoke hot enough to burn out a briar, you'd be smoking too hot to properly taste the tobacco in an MM. And again, this is for someone who doesn't even know if they like smoking. If someone likes pipe tobacco and knows they're going to be smoking for a long time, then sure. Buy a mid range briar. My point on the Dunhill comparison was to show you that even the most expensive, high end pipes don't smoke that better or require a different technique than the lower end one. People who actually own and smoke pipes know that sometimes the more expensive ones can smoke poorly due to all manner of reasons and sometimes a cheap basket pipe you pick up because you want a pipe that you can not care too much about ends up being a fantastic smoker. The main concern when looking for a pipe when starting out is finding one that smokes well and for that, you want consistency in manufacture, and MM is very consistent at producing a good smoking pipe. Tell me, what does smoking in a briar teach you, or improve upon an MM that for someone who doesn't even know whether they'll enjoy smoking justifies spending 50 dollars plus on? And this isn't a 'poorfag' thing. If you had to spend that money to get a good pipe, I'd suggest spending that money. But to be frank from my own experience and from the experience of other pipe smokers I know and everyone I've seen online, this just isn't the case. Furthermore he's likely in the US. MM can easily be found everywhere in the US.

>>16106793
It does make a point because if your concern is solely with the smoking of tobacco and nothing else then you will get the same amount of enjoyment out of a MM corn cob and that Dunhill. The low end versus the highest end. That was the comparison I was making.

>> No.16106867

>>16106860
Holy tldr

>> No.16106869

>>16106867
Thanks for confirming you're just shitposting.

>> No.16106888

>>16106860
>will get the same amount of enjoyment out of a MM corn cob and that Dunhill
Holy shit, you must be working for MM. You could have said it before instead of that long ass post with nothing but bullshit in it

>> No.16106907

>>16106860
Wait, how can you tell if you admittedly never bought 50£ pipes?

>> No.16106933

>>16106888
No, I don't. I don't even own a single one. And that fact is true. If all you care about is the mechanics of it and just want to smoke pipe tobacco, then you can't go wrong with an MM. If the pipe draws well and is mechanically sound then if you put the same tobacco packed and smoked by the same person, both will be perfectly fine. Yes, a Dunhill will almost certainly be a fantastic smoker right out of the box and a flawless example of craftsmanship. But high end pipes don't elevate the smoking experience itself. There is no magic transmutation of smoke and someone starting out wouldn't even know what to look for anyway. A beginner's pipe needs to be tough enough to stand up to the rigours of someone learning to use it, mechanically good so that it presents no issues as he learns to pack and smoke and cheap enough that if he drops it and mars the finish or damages it in some other way, or he loses it, he won't feel too bad about it and that he feels it's it's in the 'cheap enough that it doesn't really matter if I buy it or not' category. You also didn't answer my question. What does a briar pipe teach a beginner that an corncob or, even a pear wood or similar cheap pipes, doesn't?

>>16106907
Because I've smoked pipes in other people's collections, like I said earlier. I have smoked three Dunhills along with several other expensive pipes and while they did smoke well, there was no real difference in how they smoked compared to the pipes I own.

>> No.16107325

Whoever said to try the Camacho familiy's brand they made after they sold Camacho to Davidoffs was spot on, great smoke at a great price.

>> No.16107397

>>16106933
>. I have smoked three Dunhills along with several other expensive pipes and while they did smoke well, there was no real difference in how they smoked compared to the pipes I own.
Which is ok (although arguable) if you mean to your briar pipe which is what I recommend. If you meant instead that a 300$ Dunhill smokes the same a corncob 5$ pipe you are full of shit and either are a MM employee or have a dead palate. in any case stop it, because nobody believes you anymore

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>>16106687
>>16106661
>>16104433
Shut up nerd

>> No.16107915

>>16106782
>Smoking pipe is not only about tobacco.
Did nobody else catch this? You’re basically saying “Corncob and briar have no difference regarding taste, but I’m a faggoty snob and want to have people waste money on a $100 pipe”

>> No.16108207

>>16107915
>You’re basically saying “Corncob and briar have no difference regarding taste
You are retarded, how can you infer this is out of my mind. Anyway work on your reading comprehension anon

>> No.16108234

>>16108207
“Smoking pipe is not only about tobacco“ infers that briar is better than corn cob in other respects BESIDES flavor, which along with proper technique are the only things a beginner should care about

>> No.16108239

>>16108207
I just want to be clear anon, your sperging about pipes is keeping this shity vestigial thread that you personally ruined, alive.

>> No.16108282

>>16108234
>“Smoking pipe is not only about tobacco“ infers that briar is better than corn cob in other respects BESIDES flavor
I never said "besides" the flavour, you said the and your, not surprisingly wrong.
Briar does affect the flavour, it affect the way you have to pack it, how frequent you can puff, the weight, the maintainance, the temperature of smoke, etc. In a nutshell it affect how you smoke.
Both the tobacco *and* the pipe shape/material affect the smoking. Again I can't understand how you infer that i wasn't talking about the flavour.

What you learn with a MM is not transferible to a briar, it makes you pick up bad habits, which is why is not a good advice suggest to start with a corncob

>>16108239
I personally don't care about your feeling anon, and i think nobody else itt does.
If you are looking for caring and compassion go to a psychiatrist, just to be clear
I'm saving people form shit advices based on how cheap can you go, that don't make any sense

>> No.16108358

>>16108282
Blah blah blah I don't know shit about tobacco or smoking blah blah blah.

Post your pipes, please.

>> No.16108412

>>16108282
Which bad habits are those? I'm genuinely curious now, because you still need to clean the bit, stem and bowl in one of those corn cobs.

>> No.16108448

>>16067310
Recommendations for pipe blends that are very peppery?

>> No.16108521

What are some good beginner snus/chewing bags available in central europe?
I'm looking for a classic flavour i.e. what's popular in sweden.

>> No.16108709

>>16108358
>blah I don't know shit about tobacco or smoking
I never said that, is it a confession?

>Post your pipes, please.
No

>>16108412
>Which bad habits are those?
Those are not bad habits, i was explaining what I meant with "Smoking pipe is not only about tobacco".
Tobacco does the greatest difference but the pipe does a substantial difference too.

The way you do those on corncob is different enough that make me suggest to not start with a cob, despite the price.
For example cobs require a tighter packing and a different puff cadence, so you basically learning how to smoke two times with the difference that you will eventually switch to a briar.
Cob is a good pipe for someone who already know how to smoke a pipe
If you want to know if you like smoking pipe you need a briar pipe

>> No.16108768

>>16108709
>won’t even post his pipes
LMAO

>> No.16108809

>>16108709
I don't mean to be abrasive but I don't feel that's not true. Yes, MM are a pseudomeerschaum, but that doesn't change much when it comes to smoking and cadence. A large briar pipe will smoke different to a pocket one, but the same basic principles remain the same. Now sure, the size of the pipe, the size of the bit and such can affect the smoke, but for most people, you'll not have any real difference in it. It does affect it the smoke, and I prefer a smaller bowl for flake for instance, for by and large for most people it's a mechanical difference and a corn cob with the same dimensions of a briar and the same bit will smoke practically the same. And none of that really comes down to the material of the pipe. The only real difference is that a briar pipe will absorb flavours of the tobacco due the oils, when you're starting out, and once the cake develops that carbon too will absorb oils but in terms of pure mechanical pipe smoking, I don't see any real difference. And again, this is for people who have never smoked a pipe before, who treat it the same as buying a can of pop or not. If you are being sincere, then I do appreicate the fact that you suggest a briar pipe, but there really is nothing wrong with a MM Corncob. And let's not forget, there are many different sizes and bowl types available.

>> No.16108833

>>16108709
>>16108809
Furthermore that ignores clay pipes, actual meerschaum, tyrolean ceramic pipes, etc.

>> No.16108947

>>16108809
>I don't mean to be abrasive but I don't feel that's not true
I think that you used a extra negatavite somewhere

> A large briar pipe will smoke different to a pocket one, but the same basic principles remain the same
It does make some difference. The basic principles remain the same if you already know how to smoke.

All your post start with the assumption of a person that already knows how to smoke a pipe. You can switch between different shapes/lenght and different type/cuts of tobacco easily (or with some minor effort) because you know how to smoke a pipe.


The whole point of my posts was that starting with a cob is not a good recommendation.
It would have make sense if you could judge smoking pipes on the first try, but it's not.
Generally it takes like a month of trying in order to have a smoking session that isn't horrible (wrong packing, wrong lit, puffing too often, puffing too few, when and how to use a pipe companion, toungue bite that need a couple of days off, ... )
You better start with a briar at this point and briar pipe are the common pipe (and are better than cobs)

> And none of that really comes down to the material of the pipe.
We do not agree here.

> but there really is nothing wrong with a MM Corncob
I never said that. It is inferior to briar, sepiolite (and olive for some kind of tobacco). I said that suggesting to start with cob "to understand if he likes smoking pipe" is not a good advice.
Once you learn how to smoke a briar, it's ok to buy a cob, I always have a cob myself for backup

>> No.16109251

This subject has been talked about for two days and accounts for nearly a quarter of the thread, can we move on to something else now?

>> No.16109546

>>16109251
I think we should talk about why the fuck this thread is allowed to exist since it has nothing to do with cooking.

>> No.16109568

>>16109546
Rent free

>> No.16109591

>>16067429
>beanless chilis
that's not chili that's soup.

>> No.16109596

>>16109546
read the sticky dumbass

>> No.16109715

So what's the best pan for cooking a cigar? carbon steel or cast iron? I've tried cast iron but it keeps sticking like a motherfucker. I tried seasoning it with spittle from my chaw and it helped a bit but not enough. any advice anons?
>inb4 le creuset
don't be stupid, enameled cast iron is just cope from panlets

>> No.16110836

>>16109715
I prefer stainless but it really depends on your cigar wrapper

>> No.16110860

>>16106771
>Reddit spacing isn't a thing
Is it very much a thing. The problem here is that the person he is accusing isn't using reddit spacing.

>> No.16111613

I got given some old cigars by someone at work, he thinks he bought them about 30 years ago. They've not been stored well and are really dry, do cigars that old just need binning or is there a way to bring them back to smokable condition?

>> No.16112461

>>16111613
you need to boil them for about 10 minutes, or until al dente, whichever comes last. add a teaspoon of extra virgin olive oil (made from ugly olives lol) and 3 tablespoons of sea salt to the water.

>> No.16112468

>>16110836
They're Swisher Sweets, not sure what wrapper they have. I'll try it again later today, maybe I just need to get the skillet hotter before I add the cigars.

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poor ausfag here, I get mine from a milkbar run by an Asian family for $14aud under the counter
the wife always greets me by saying "hello beauty"
feels good, man.

>> No.16113149

>>16112840
How cheap are the illegal Chinese cigarettes in the antipodes?

>> No.16113195

>>16111613
If they’ve been stored at low humidity for 30 years straight I’d say that there’s no way to make them smoke like they should. There could also be dry mold/rot in there, so I would just throw them out

>> No.16114479

Bump

>> No.16115457

>>16067310
Cmon niggers start talking about tobacco

>> No.16115827

>>16115457
is tobasco or secret aardvark the better sauce to put on my cigars?

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>>16115827

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>>16115457

Where my hookahbros at?

>> No.16115876

>>16115853
Never tried hookah, how is it compared to sub-ohm vaping?

>> No.16116224

>>16115839
not enough garlic, the nicaraguan overpowers it.

>> No.16116828

>>16115876
>sub-ohm vaping
No idea. I don't vape. Hookah, pipe and cigar is all i do

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>>16115876
superior

>> No.16117121

>>16115839
How very based of you

>> No.16118401

it's be a real shame if this worthless off-topic thread slid off. a real damn shame. I mean it might make space for a secret aardvark thread or a cast iron thread.