/ck/ - Food & Cooking

[Anonymous No.15961186]

Regardless of diet, there is one substance literally everyone will tell you to stay away from; sugar. I seriously hope you don't consume sugar in any form. This includes things like honey and fruits. Get a grip. Stop consuming a substance that your body treats as alcohol without the intoxication as it doesn't pass the blood-brain barrier.

[Anonymous No.15961205]

Eat sugar.

[Anonymous No.15961207]

>>15961205
I believe you

[Anonymous No.15961215]

>>15961186
i even cut down the maple trees near my house so there isn't auxiliary sugar nearby

[Anonymous No.15961328]

Sugar is in almost everything you eat. I think you mean pure sugar. You need to be more specific
>Stop consuming a substance that your body treats as alcohol without the intoxication as it doesn't pass the blood-brain barrier.
Your brain needs glucose in an un-altered form to function, you buffoon
Not that I eat pure/raw/cane/whatever sugar anyway

[Anonymous No.15961347]

Sorry, I'm not a fatass or a diabetic.

[Anonymous No.15961367]

>>15961186
Let us know how you feel when your blood glucose dips below 3 mmol/L. There are only so many places your body can stripmine it from, and things will start to malfunction and break down when all of the supplies run low.

[Anonymous No.15961386]

>>15961186
>forest animal on the planet
>consumes its bodyweight in sugar every day
Jews push anti sugar faggotry because they want you to be a low engery faggot that is easy to control

[Anonymous No.15961418]

>>15961186
>he doesn't eat berries
Fucking lmao'ing @ ur vitaminless life.
Just made a simple dessert of yoghurt, quark and mixed berries from my own bushes and just a little bit of honey. If you call that unhealthy, get the fuck out of here.

[Anonymous No.15961457]

>>15961186
Are you saying I could get drunk on sugar if I got it to cross the blood brain barrier? And no alcohol would show up in a breath test. Interesting idea.

[SAYYYYYYYYYJ No.15961469]

>FROOT BAD

How many chins do you have

[Anonymous No.15961495]

>>15961186
You realize that in hospitals they literally pump sugar water into people's arms when they are too sick or unconscious to eat right? Look up high carb low fat diet. Look up DurianRider. Civilization was literally built on sugar, grain, and alcohol. Your brain runs on sugar. Your kidneys need sugar. Your blood needs sugar. Humans evolved to like the taste of sugar instead of fat or protein.

[Anonymous No.15961505]

>>15961495
Doesn't durian rider have fake teeth?

[Anonymous No.15961520]

I'm pretty immune to the desire of sugar. Some people really can't control themselves around it but I seem to be pretty content with or without it. I do enjoy a bit of chocolate here and there with a cup of tea.

[Anonymous No.15961727]

>>15961505
I wouldn't know or care. George Washington had fake teeth.

[Anonymous No.15963100]

>>15961328
>Your brain needs glucose in an un-altered form to function, you buffoon
and your liver can produce glucose through ketogenesis in the absence of dietary glucose you buffoon

[Anonymous No.15963134]

>>15961495
This. Or if you're feeling lightheaded they'll try get you to drink juice (which obviously has quite a bit of sugar in it)
One thing is overeating ultra processed foods with ridiculous amounts of sugar in everyday and another very different thing is eating normal amount of sugar in foods like fruit, honey etc.

[Anonymous No.15963138]

>>15961495
>>15961505
I just looked up durian rider, it appears he's a vegan cyclist who lives in thailand and rapes young girls. He also looks like a strung out faggot. Why would I want to emulate this man in any way?

[Anonymous No.15963143]

>>15961418
It's unhealthy and I'm staying here.

[Anonymous No.15963145]

>>15961186
>>15961328
>>15961457
>>15961495
>>15963100
>Not injecting your brain with pure sugar
Plebs

[Anonymous No.15963570]

>>15961186
I eat 100 grams of fruit every day. People that advocate to not eat fruit are fat losers.

[Anonymous No.15963608]

>>15961727
yeah and he lived like 500 years ago, this vegan retard lives right now

[Anonymous No.15963768]

>>15963608
If you can call that living

[Anonymous No.15963799]

>>15961186
Imagine being this braindead

[Anonymous No.15963801]

>>15961186
You shouldn't let overconsumption of refined sugar make you think natural sources of it are bad. I've never seen a single credible source proving that fruit is unhealthy, even though people are always trying to claim it is. But there's plenty of evidence that it offers a lot of benefits.

Even some modern hunter-gatherers eat 50g of sugar or more from honey every day without showing any obvious signs that it's unhealthy. So I don't know if it's just refined sugar that's bad, or maybe it's when combined with a lack of exercise and most diets having too much low nutrition processed foods in general. There were some studies showing that vegan diets are healthier for obese people who already had problems with their hearts and arteries, maybe there's something similar going on with sugar being worse for people who are obese.

[Anonymous No.15963809]

>>15961186
>This includes...fruits.
You are a retard. Added sugar can be a problem, fruits are healthy.

[Anonymous No.15963937]

Fucking retards all over this hellsite that don't understand the difference between glucose and fructose.

[Anonymous No.15963952]

>>15963809
>fruits are healthy

[Anonymous No.15963969]

>>15961186
>don't eat any sugar
>my treacherous stomach converts food into glucose which IS a type of sugar

[Anonymous No.15964015]

>>15963969
and your liver converts fructose to glucose for absorption... If there's no source of carbohydrates, your body will start to convert fat and fatty acids to glucose. It's almost like your body needs it or something.

If you're a fat fuck and consistently consume at or above the level needed to keep you going, sugar is bad. If you routinely don't eat enough, carbs and sugar are basically necessary to keep your body from stripmining itself to keep the blood-glucose levels above 3mmol/L. Need help with the concept of low and high blood sugar? Ask a diabetic. They'll tell you at what point the world begins to feel fuzzy, where their doctor has warned them (or waking up in the hospital has reminded them) that ketoacidosis, organ damage, gangrene and coma are likely possibilities.

[Anonymous No.15964037]

>>15961186
let's clarify some of this

Fructose sugar cannot be processed in bodily cells like glucose, cannot be stored for energy later and must be broken down and converted into fat for body energy by the liver and the liver alone.

This means an increased fructose sugar (HFCS anyone?) means increased functional load on your liver, which is required for 500 more tasks the body needs to keep going.

Fructose sugar is as dangerous in high quantities or moderate consistent use as alcohol used in this way is to the liver and body.

Depending on your lifestyle (toxic particles in environment, sedentary) and your diet, your liver will already be working hard to keep you living so excess fructose can overwork it and cause problems.

[Anonymous No.15964041]

>>15964015
>It's almost like your body needs it or something.
but you just said your body converts fat into glucose, so you dont actually need to eat any

[Anonymous No.15964090]

>>15964041
Unless you're losing fat beyond healthy levels. There is a point where you do need to intake glucose, or things that can become glucose. If you're a bad drunk, or a skelly wellington, fruit and pasta may be an absolutely necessary part of your diet. If you're not the goodyear blimp, a spoonful of sugar in your morning coffee isn't any worse for you than the coffee itself.

Everything in moderation. Chronic excess of systemic glucose will eventually kill you, and a near-complete lack of it will kill you just as dead.

[Anonymous No.15964094]

>>15964090
so again sounds like you dont need to eat any glucose unless youre in some extreme condition

[Anonymous No.15964112]

>>15964041
Plus, (if you're a ketofag), prolonged Ketosis isn't super great for your kidneys or mental state. If you're killing yourself with food, it's the safer bet. If you're just trying to lose a few pounds, just eat less and work out more; it will take a bit longer (depending on how long per day/session you drive your body on empty), but you'll probably feel better getting there.

>tl'dr keto's best suited for some epileptics and near-diabetics.

[Anonymous No.15964116]

>>15964094
You also don't need to avoid it, unless you're in a similarly extreme condition. Fucking up your ability to feel a runner's high isn't going to do your workout regimen any favours.

[Anonymous No.15964117]

>>15964112
source?

[Anonymous No.15964118]

>>15964037
You need to eat 80 grams or more of fructose daily for it to be dangerous. There is roughly 5 grams of fructose per 100 grams of banana which means you would need to eat 1.6 kg of daily banana to reach 80 g of fructose. No one is fucking eating that much fruit.

Stop being disingenuous. Fruit is healthy. Many countries have had fruit in their daily diet for centuries.

[Anonymous No.15964134]

>>15961186
Suck my dick, I eat what the fuck I want, it's called moderation and exercise. Sick and tired of you obese faggots, with your fad diets, coming in and shitting up the board, trying to shame those of us who, unlike you, can practice self control. I eat carbs and sugar, I eat meat and I even eat tofu, and guess what? I'm 170 at 6'1", I run marathons, bench 250, and play long tennis matches every weekend. Eat my ass and gargle my cum.

[Anonymous No.15964142]

>>15964116
>Fucking up your ability to feel a runner's high
explain how this happens please?

[Anonymous No.15964151]

>>15964037
>This means an increased fructose sugar (HFCS anyone?)
hfcs is only very slightly higher in fructose than table sugar. they're equally shit

[Anonymous No.15964153]

>>15961495
Humans evolved to pursue sweet things so they can get from one point to another in hopes of catching a fatty protein rich meal.
Nutrition is pretty basic when you think about it, people over complicate it way to much.

I stopped eating refined sugars completely, and I don't eat carbs after dinner or anything high in protein of fatty during my work day.
It turned my health right around.

[Anonymous No.15964162]

>>15964153
>I don't eat carbs after dinner or anything high in protein of fatty during my work day
So you eat almost exclusively carbs during the day and then no carbs in the evening?

[Anonymous No.15964168]

>>15961215
Hahahhahahaahahaha

[Anonymous No.15964190]

>>15964153
>"people overcomplicate nutrition way too much"
>proceeds to retardedly shill yet another autistic way of eating based off some indiscernible set of data

*upvote*

[Anonymous No.15964195]

>>15964162
Pretty much. I work a physically demanding job, so I burn a lot of calories plus exercise after work.

It just makes sense to not eat carbs when you are resting, but eat them when you are active. Carbs are fuel, fats and proteins are maintenance, that's how I see it.
I of course have maybe a beer or maybe a snack once or twice a week after dinner but that won't change anything really.

[Anonymous No.15964209]

>>15964190
What data? It's a pretty simple concept.
Carbs during day.
no carbs during night

Is that too complicated for you to understand?

[Anonymous No.15964243]

>>15961186
>This includes things like honey and fruits.

You instantly lost all credibility. Table sugar in excess is the problem. Excessive consumption of sugar in desserts and drinks is the problem. Eating a moderate amount and using sugar to enrich your diet is no problem if you look after yourself properly anyway.

[Anonymous No.15964450]

>>15961186
Glucose is literally the fuel of the brain, retard

[Anonymous No.15964461]

>>15964450
Look up ketogenesis

[Anonymous No.15964464]

>>15964461
No i won't

[Anonymous No.15964653]

>>15961186
>Avoiding ingredients because some virgin geek told you to.

You deserve to die if your genes are so weak it can’t handle a basic sweetener

[Anonymous No.15965280]

>>15961386
Allright imma start consuming 90kg of sugar a day and see where it takes me

[Anonymous No.15965320]

>>15963100
I think you mean gluconeogenesis
If you are trying to appear smart, get it right

[Anonymous No.15965379]

>>15961215
Funny, I did the same thing but to the end that I would be forced to obtain refined sugars and couldn't forage from the environment.

[Anonymous No.15965829]

>>15964118
I never said anywhere in my post that you should avoid fruit. Whole fruit is fine. God put an equal ratio of fibre to sugar inside of foods. That's why the foods we get refined sugar from need so much processing. Sugar beets, cane sugar, maple trees. All of them have an intense fibre to sugar ratio. When you eat a beet or an apple in its whole form the fibre slows the fructose absorption to levels that aren't exacerbatory on the liver.

To summarize:
Processed sugar freed from it's natural fibre ratios, specifically fructose not glucose, is hard on the liver in large quantities and is processed by the liver in the exact same way as the liver processes alcohol.

[Anonymous No.15966491]

>>15961186
It's only fructose in high dosage which is bad, stupid mongoloid.

[Anonymous No.15966678]

>>15961367
good i want to die but i lack the balls to do it quickly

[Anonymous No.15967029]

>>15965829
>God
stopped reading there

[Anonymous No.15967077]

>>15967029
you can ignore what put it there and still understand it exists and doesn't change the reality that sugar is found with a naturally occurring amount of fibre to compensate for it and allow healthy slow uptake of fructose.

refined sugar is like alcohol, true

[Anonymous No.15967176]

>>15961186
Brain literally runs on glucose man, even if you're in ketosis you body will break down fats into simple sugars and recycle proteins in your body for amino acids to keep it going

I think added sugar is the biggest issue, soda, processed food, we all eat way more than we should, naturally occuring undefined sugar is ok, like sweet potato, white sugar is poison

[Anonymous No.15967596]

>>15967176
While having to process it out will burn some calories, it's all basically sugar to the body. The amounts are what can become unhealthy and dangerous.

[Anonymous No.15968677]

>>15961186
less makey threads, more takey meds

[Anonymous No.15968728]

>>15961328
>Your brain needs glucose in an un-altered form to function, you buffoon
Yes, that's why the body can produce it by itself.

[Anonymous No.15968815]

>>15968728
Your body can also produce cholesterol. But I don't think anyone saying carbs are bad because your body can produce the glucose it needs would say the same thing about foods with cholesterol.

[Anonymous No.15968877]

>>15965280
Godspeed you diabetic bastard.

[Anonymous No.15970068]

mfw hyper addicted to sugar... snorting it

[Anonymous No.15970864]

>>15965280
Pancreas would probably explode.

[Anonymous No.15971058]

Fruit is for children. Fruit juice, fruit roll-ups, gummies, or baby food is literally mashed fruit. The only fruit an adult should be still eating is tomato.

[Anonymous No.15971114]

>>15968815
some people cant produce enough cholesterol themselves