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15941802 No.15941802 [Reply] [Original]

Τhere's literally nothing wrong with well done steaks,let people enjoy things

>> No.15941811

people like different things, what i cant stand is the retards who think well done equals dry. goddamn cooklets

>> No.15941813

>>15941811
i like it well done but no i aint that guy

>> No.15941814

>>15941802
perfect pocket steak right there

>> No.15941821

>>15941811
>people like different things, what i cant stand is the retards who think well done equals good. goddamn cooklets
ftfy

>> No.15941838

>>15941821
>people like different things
>crying about people liking different things
Grow up

>> No.15941845

>>15941838
>people like different things
>crying about people not liking different things
Grow up

>> No.15941847

They can enjoy it well done but that doesnt mean I cant ridicule them for their poor decisions.

>> No.15941850

>>15941845
Take your meds schizo

>> No.15941877

I used to be a medium rare guy but now prefer rare or black/blue, sounds like you should try getting better steaks.

>> No.15941881
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>>15941802
That steak is cooked beyond well done anon

>> No.15941900

>>15941811
finally someone else here. med rare fags out themselves as basic ass cooks when they say that, because it doesn't have to be

>> No.15941929

I don't think most people actually understand what well done is, it's actually very hard to achieve a perfect well done.

It should still be somewhat juicy, but there should be no pink remaining on the inside
it's best to achieve this with more fatty cuts obviously, since the slightly longer cooking time also helps to render more of that fat

but for some reason most people mix up well done with overdone, overdone is dry, bland and juiceless

>> No.15941936

>>15941802
is that you, donald?

>> No.15941952

>>15941881
>That steak is cooked beyond well done anon

The term for that is 'trop cuit'.
My friend got kicked out a restaurant in France once for asking it to be cooked that way. The chef came out and told him to fuck off to McDonalds.

>> No.15941963

>>15941952
>Getting kicked out for getting what you want with your money
Sounds like French

>> No.15941971

>>15941952
socialist countries, everyone

>> No.15942038

>>15941929
Similarly, to make the perfect hot microwaved sushi, use a good piece of sushi and don't microwave it a moment longer than is necessary to make it hot.
People nuking store-bought sushi for minutes at a time just because they're afraid of raw fish aren't representative of real hot microwaved sushi, it can be done so much better.

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>>15942038
>microwaved sushi

>> No.15942056

>>15941971
Restaurants in France aren't state owned, retard.

>> No.15942065

>>15942038
I mean we are already in a no-kinkshame thread, if you talk about well done steaks you might as well talk about microwave sushi and cream cheese with Nutella.

>> No.15942072

>>15942056
thats what they want you to believe

>> No.15942098

>>15941952
>The chef came out and told him to fuck off to McDonalds.
Based Chef.

>> No.15942128

>>15941802
There's also the safety angle. I prefer to lose a bit of flavor than risk parasites.

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>>15941802
>let people enjoy things
well done steak is not enjoyed, it is consumed and people who like it are often psychopaths.

people who just go through life puppeting along with no internal conversation or thoughts. no empathy, just mindless existing.

>> No.15942163

>>15941802
a rare steak doesn't have any fat, because it would taste awful if not properly rendered.

>> No.15942185

>>15942163
bullshit. rare fat on a steak is wonderful.

>> No.15942192

>>15941971
France is capitalist you delusional idiot.

>> No.15942216

As a french guy I must say that someone who eats his beef well done has no taste and a fucking uneducated palate.

Or course people can enjoy anything, doesn't make it less garbage. That's a shitty argument to tell that.

>> No.15942220

>>15942216
Trop cuit and well-done are not the same thing, Achmed

>> No.15942228

meanwhile on the 24 hour BBQ channel

>> No.15942236

>>15942220
Calm your tits cunt, I'm not from Maghreb.

Seeing your burgers talking about food is actually laughable. Very few americans seem to have good culinary taste.

>> No.15942239

>>15942236
I'm european, Achmed

>> No.15942248

>>15942239
Yeah cool. From which shithole again ?
The only cuisine that could be on par with french is italian, so unless you're a spaghetti eater, you can fuck off

>> No.15942276

>>15941802
you might as well burn it

>> No.15942408

>>15941811
>>15941900
If it's not dry I'm sending it back. I said well done, not juicy.

Meanwhile you faggots think jerky is the greatest snack ever. Retarded hypocrites.

>> No.15943230

>>15941847
only plebs can't appreciate well-done steak. they say well-done is inherently overcooked and can't even differentiate between cooking a steak to an internal temperature of 160F and 170F, they'd say it's the same. did you know well-done steaks are actually more flavorful? when protein is cooked to well-done it contracts and squeezes out excess water. this means the flavor of the steak is concentrated. people who like less than well-done are basically saying "wow this watery steak is great". most carnivores who eat raw meat don't even chew it, which is why less than well-done is actually chewier, but people act like this is better for some reason. when meat is well-done the muscle fibers shred apart more easily, this is better for us since we actually chew our food. something like a lion or wolf just tears off chunks of meat and swallow them whole, people don't do this, so less than well-done is actually chewier. steaks are overrated anyway, it's like a bare minimum of effort to actually prepare them. i'd rather have a good braised piece of fatty meat, that's way better, especially once the fat has started to melt and become buttery. notice how a lot of people just cut the fat off the steak and don't eat it because it's chewy? that's wasteful and you're missing out on something that could be really good. i dunno why steak has gotten to be such a premium product with so many strange rituals surrounding it. i guess people just fell for the marketing of it being a premium product and eating an undercooked chewy steak making them cultured and superior. i'd even rather just have a good burger over a steak. welcome to good burger home of the good burger, can i take your order? who loves orange soda? kel loves orange soda. is it true? i do i do i do-o. benis.

>> No.15943243

>>15942408
Jerky isn't a piece of leather you fucking cooklet

>> No.15943252

let me enjoy not letting people enjoy things

>> No.15943256

>>15942145
take your meds schizo

>> No.15943306

>>15941802
dry and ruined, like your mom

>> No.15943514

>>15943306
its not his mums fault you cant make any woman wet

>> No.15943626

>>15943230
Imagine being so insecure about eating burned steak that you need a wall of text to defend your stupidity.

>> No.15943635

>>15943514
Old ladies don't get wet. Not even for Chad Thundercock.

>> No.15944624

>>15941929
It's pretty much impossible for the average person to get a good well done steak without sous videing it

>> No.15944640

>>15941952
Based. Spoiled am*ricans need to be taught that you can't have everything your way

>> No.15944670

>>15941802
okay bambino, the adults will talk now

>> No.15944678

>>15941952
based chef, customers should never ask an artist to embarrass themselves serving shit like that

>> No.15945013

>>15941850
take your foreskins kikeo

>> No.15945638

>>15941802
main reason is because people who can't make a good well-done steak are shit at making steak and have to undercook it

>> No.15945747

>>15941952
Some time ago my dad and a few coworkers were in France on some business thing and they went to a fancy restaurant since it was on the company's dime. They all got expensive steaks and one of them asked for ketchup and received a flat
>no
from the waiter. That same guy also puts mustard on something really fucking weird but I don't remember what it is.

>> No.15945793

>>15941802
Nice charcoal cancer

>> No.15946210
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>>15941963
If nothing else, the French are famously uncompromising when it comes to things they produce. They will not let Bordeaux wineries be bought out by Chinese firms, and have their way of doing things because they've been doing that for centuries. They have developed thier way of making bread and they continue to perfect it over time, not degenerate it in the name of the lowest common denominator. That I can appreciate from any restaurateur or company that makes a product of distinguished quality. They care so much they abandon that "customer is always right" bullshit, because frankly, sometimes a customer is wrong, and rightly so that a majority of people would agree that they are wrong. And if you don't like that way of being served, move on.

>>15944678
Exactly my thoughts. Making a well done steak completely undermines the talent of a decent chef and wastes the energy and effort made into creating and preserving steak for consumption. It would be the equivalent to buying bluefin tuna belly and canning it instead of it's proper use -- for Sashimi.

>> No.15946240

>>15943306
Vaginal dryness is nothing to joke about!

>> No.15946249

I have beta male genetics so chewing on a well done steak is very tiring of me
It's a mark of shame that I can only eat medium rare steaks :(

>> No.15946271

>>15941900
> Arghhh no medium rare!!
> Fags can't cook well enough

Seriously homo, sort your shit out.

>> No.15946278

>>15946240
Yes it is.

>> No.15946284

>>15943230
> Using the Jew degrees of Fahrenheit for cooking...

That's why Americans can't cook...

>> No.15946415

>>15945013
Double the dosage

>> No.15946428

>>15943243
It's much harder to chew than a dry steak you dumbass

>> No.15946433

>>15946284
>NOOO don’t use traditional units, you MUST use the globohomo modern units forced on you by everyone else!!!!

What’s it like to be so subverted that you view anti-subversion as subversion?

>> No.15946439

>>15946433
Yikes. You sound like one of those faggots who think that any language other than English should continue to survive.

>> No.15946535

>>15941971
Having the choice to do business with or not do business with a customer is peak capitalism.
Under a socialist system, the chef would’ve been FORCED by the state to make the steak the way the customer wanted it. That, or the chef would be forced to follow a specific recipe. And if the customer didn’t like how it was cooked, he would’ve been sent to the gulag for “being a subversive to the prosperity of the people due to wasting food”.

>> No.15946574

>>15942145
Are you the same redditor who got angry at a guy not salting his eggs in the other thread?

>> No.15946584

>>15946574
Yes. So what?

>> No.15946928
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>>15946415
>Double the dosage

>> No.15947027

>>15946428
t. cooklet

>> No.15947058

>>15941811
>laws of physics and chemistry work differently for us tastelets who like well-done steaks

>> No.15947129

>>15942128
There's no such thing as 100% safeness in real life, but eating a rare steak, even blue rare, in a first world country is very close to that.

>> No.15947147

What's up with this intense hate for people who eat well-done steaks? Is this some kind of meme?

>> No.15947163

>>15947147
It's not hatred, just mockery of their poor taste.

>> No.15947285

>>15942220
It's like comparing stage IV cancer with stage III cancer

>> No.15947310

>>15942408
>>15946428
Yeah, all the fanciest restaurants serve beef jerky.
Beef jerky is basically old timey beef flavored chewing gum, it's not supposed to be proper food.

>> No.15947367

>>15946584
Your "insults" are all the same and all of them are cringe and lame.

>> No.15947403

Just because people like different things does not mean all things are equally OK to like. Some people like eating dog shit, that does not mean liking dog shit is on par with liking well cooked food.

>> No.15947406

>>15941952
This most certainly happened.

>> No.15947463

>>15943230
>when meat is well-done the muscle fibers shred apart more easily, this is better for us since we actually chew our food. something like a lion or wolf just tears off chunks of meat and swallow them whole, people don't do this, so less than well-done is actually chewier
that's only true for cuts of meat rich of collagen and connective tissue cooked for a long time at a lower temperature in a relatively humid environment (beef stews, low & slow BBQ...). At that point collagen melts and meat become more tender.
But you can't make typical steak cuts (tenderloin, sirloin, rybeye...) any more tender by cooking 'em longer on a grill or a pan. Proteins contract and coagulate and squeeze all the juices out.
Science has already figured out pretty well how the cooking of meat works on a molecular level, you can't make things up just to try to rationalize your shitty preferences.

>> No.15947876

>Nothing wrong with:
>Uncooked pasta
>Raw fish
>Excessive strong tasting condiments
>Low heat baked bread
>Never using salt on anything
>Burnt fruit
>Black toasted bread
>Putting traditional dinners into a blender and drinking them
>Eating through the shells of any fruit and vegetable
>Putting spice that burn quickly on before searing meat
>Melting chocolate for baking in microwave on highest setting
>Cutting with a dull but safer knife (no memes with sharper knife is safer allowed)
LET
PEOPLE
ENJOY
THINGS

>> No.15947880

>>15947058
Actual cocklet retard

>> No.15947892

Nobody cares about stuck up frenchmens opinion on steaks. They didn't invent it and they're certainly not well known for their steaks.

>> No.15947914

>>15947463
If you were to cook a ribeye steak for a really long time the way you would a roast, would it be tender like a pot roast or would it be tough and gross? Actually wondering.

>> No.15947978

>>15941802
I'm literally pooping right now

>> No.15948381

>>15947147
An animal died for you to have your steak. It's disrespectful to ruin it by cooking it well-done.

>> No.15948402

>>15947914
A roast cooked in the oven is basically a very thick steak, so it's really hard to actually overcook it until it becomes inedibly dry and tough. The large section also help retaining the moisture inside.
If you want a well-cooked piece of beef tender like a pot roast you have to basically make a pot roast, and ribeye is not really suited for that. There are cheaper cuts of meat that give a way better result.

>> No.15948527

SO DRYYYYYYYY
jeez OP it was already dead

>> No.15948923

>>15941821
Cooked a steak today that turned out pretty much well done but was as tender as the last med rare one I had so they absolutely can be tender and good

>> No.15949035

>>15948381
It's disrespectful to think that the level of doneness has anything to do with respect.

>> No.15949061

>>15941971
France isn’t a socialist country you retard

>> No.15949070

>>15943230
Fuck off I’m not reading all that shit

>> No.15949181

>>15941802
copy pasta, and thats a picture of pork

>> No.15949993

>>15947147
its just because people like to show off how rare they like their steaks. like the rareness is tied to their manliness or something. its honestly pathetic.

>> No.15950009

>>15949061
>>15946535
>>15942192
>>15942056
actually socialism is when capitalism but I don't like it

>> No.15950249

>>15941802
>let people enjoy things

Daily reminder that this new age bullshit anthem is designed to wear you down until the things you enjoy become taboo.

Nobody says you can't enjoy things, but you can bet your ass the person who's spewing this shit would probably put you in a gulag for having a different opinion once they felt safe doing so.