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Why is salt and pepper universal across all regional cuisines? Are there any other spices that should be in everything?

>> No.15938620

If there was, it would already be so. Your question is retarded.

>> No.15938626

>>15938620
Why are you so mad?

>> No.15938634

i often replace salt with soy sauce and pepper with chili of choice but these are still fundamentally salt & pepper in different forms

>> No.15938644

>>15938617
I dont use pepper a lot. And salt is no spice, its NEEDED if youre not completely carnivore drinking not even water.
Other spices hm nah, tomato paste for example is nice but should not be in everything

>> No.15938645

>>15938617
I feel like cinnamon/nutmeg and garlic are pretty universal as well. maybe paprika or chili flakes too.
Personally I think more people should use fresh basil and oregano, they make every soup/pasta/salad better

>> No.15938653

>>15938626
Please try to understand, that I do want you as a fan

>> No.15938664

>>15938645
>garlic are pretty universal
In german cuisine literally nothing is with garlic, i did search for garlic in an old cookbook from 1900 around and it was found in two reciepies out of 800 or so. And it was warned to not use much to make it inedible. Not too surprising i hate garlic over everything.
Also its literally toxic and all health claims are fake.

>> No.15938670

>>15938617
Garlic is pretty useful, but still not to the level of salt or pepper's near universal usefulness.

Imagine a nice thanksgiving spread, full plate in front of you. You could easily put salt or pepper on probably 80-90% of the stuff that might be on your plate. Garlic might be lucky to be used in half that same stuff.

>> No.15938675

>>15938664
>Also its literally toxic and all health claims are fake
Bullshit

>> No.15938680

>>15938664
Northern German ?

>> No.15938683

>>15938664
>Also its literally toxic and all health claims are fake

People used to think tomatoes were poisonous too, bc they're a member of the nightshade family...... If you don't like garlic, then good for you, don't eat it. Don't project your autism on the subject to others.

>> No.15938686

Salt is like fat in that we're hardwired to naturally want it since it's useful for survival.

Does black pepper have some kind of vital nutrient or vitamin that makes it taste good in stuff?

>> No.15938722

>>15938675
https://recipes.timesofindia.com/articles/health/10-harmful-effects-of-garlic-that-you-should-know/photostory/64355960.cms?picid=64355977
And tons of more sources, it does https://www.totallyvets.co.nz/onion-and-garlic-toxicity.html to humans also, not just dogs and cats. Its a medicinde and should not be used as food.
>>15938683
Veryyyy low key they are also but that perfectly fine, garlic is concentrated tho.
>>15938680
Bavarian.
Well since 10 years everyone here started eating garlic, but i remember still as teenager how noone would ever eat it and we would call the moslems garlic eaters as curse

>> No.15938729

>>15938686
vitamins? yea, Hardwired like the desire for salt? Not that I'm aware of.

Maybe some kinda psychological desire, like how when you force yourself to start eating hot food, you're a pussy at first, but as time passes if you stick with it, you're constantly eating hotter and hotter stuff??? dunno...

>> No.15938745

>>15938722
>low key they are
yea, but not nightshade poisonous

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15938773

>>15938617
The working class Italian man’s salt and pepper, parm and pepper flake

>> No.15938785

>>15938729
Poor guy has never heard of minerals, imagine being this inbred

>> No.15938859

>>15938785
Yup, just because I didn't mention the sun in the post, I must not know what that is, either. Your autism is showing, again. Careful, if you leave the house like that you might get slapped like a bitch by whomever you happen to cross.

>> No.15938874

>>15938859
Anon maxxing out his herpaderp

>> No.15938885

>>15938664
>german
>cuisine

>> No.15938896

>>15938745
I mean, they leech vitamins and minerals from your bones, they are poisonous. They're not lethal but they are poisonous.

>> No.15938913

>>15938896
whatever you say. You live on uncrustables and ill live on tomatoes, and we'll see which one gets all fucked up first

>> No.15938930

>>15938664
What kind of little bitch are you?

>> No.15938950

>>15938913
You'll get fucked up later you rickety fudd, you're not really arguing with me you're ignoring science. Enjoy your late-life osteoarthritis and premature aging.

>> No.15938973

>>15938950
im 73 years old and doing just fine, just take your vitamins and enjoy long walks with your friends

>> No.15938985

>>15938885
Ive said this so often now and i continue to say it, german cuisince IS the best. By far.
But 90+ Percent of dishes are completely unknown to non Germans, they only know some meme sausages and brezen. These are just used for a quick cold meal. The best things are completely unknows as for example Rindsrouladen.
https://www.google.com/search?q=rindsrouladen&client=firefox-b-d&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjD6O2qtPzvAhUi_rsIHX1mDx4Q_AUoAnoECAEQBA&biw=1680&bih=936
Filled beef in its own sauce.

>> No.15938989

>>15938973
people around here are convinced that tomatoes are killing them.... no hope for the future, eh?

>> No.15939025

>>15938989
you find these interesting people at all sorts of times, though it does seem more prevalent today

>> No.15939034

>>15938722
>in excess
>too much

yawn

>> No.15939079

>>15938664
garlic lowers your blood pressure, idk about anything else they say about it

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>>15938645
>nutmeg
Ah yes, a true patrician

>> No.15939204

>>15938773
>you know the pizza is either going to be really good or shit if you see this on the table, no inbetween

>> No.15939210

>>15938683
>Don't project your autism on the subject to others.
4chan traffic would drop by 99.9999% if everyone complied with that dictum.

>> No.15939223

>>15938617
What basic taste does pepper correspond to?

>> No.15939239

>>15939160
in the 1700's totally

>> No.15939241

>>15939210
i stand corrected

>> No.15939260

>>15938653
I just don't want you to do some crazy shit

>> No.15939278

>>15939204
Not everyone lives in New York, anon.

>> No.15939308

>>15939260
I stan you. I stan you so hard. And I am determined to make an impact on your life.

>> No.15939661

>>15938617
Pepper really isn't. You see the shakers everywhere but they just don't really suit much of anything I would eat in a dining establishment where I would find them and don't need to be refilled often because I figure people don't use them nearly as much.

>> No.15939780

>>15939661
It would make more sense if restaurants had seasoned salt or MSG or garlic powder or something in place of pepper.

>> No.15939794

>>15939308
see, thats the type of shit that creeps me out.

>> No.15939880

>>15938722
>Garlic can cause harm if eaten in excess
>Garlic can be toxic to dogs and cat if they eat too much
>Therefore garlic is "literally toxic and all health claims are fake."
You are retarded. Water is literally toxic if taken in excess.

>> No.15940558

fresh lemon juice.

>> No.15940859
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>>15938617
Cumin I can literally have as much as physically possible in something and if I wanted to I could still add more. Every Savory foods are good with it.

>> No.15940880

>>15939880
>Water is literally toxic if taken in excess.
Yes, and garlic is toxic in very low amounts even.
>>15939079
Yes, as i said its a medicine, not food. But why would you as healthy person medically lower your blood pressure? Right, you dont because they body knows how much pressure is best if healthy.

>> No.15940940

I've heard that it's common, or at least not out of place or unusual, for some places in Eastern Europe to have a third shaker containing paprika on the table.

>> No.15941255

>>15938729
>vitamins? yea, Hardwired like the desire for salt? Not that I'm aware of.
your an idiot

>> No.15941903

>>15938985
whoa, how did we ever live without meatballs. good job Germany.

>> No.15942362

>>15938664
t. vampire

>> No.15942761

>Though French and Italian cooks make abundant use of black pepper, not everyone does. In Morocco, shakers of cumin are commonly set on the table along with salt. In Turkey, it's usually some form of ground chilli powder. In many Middle Eastern countries, including Lebanon and Syria, it's the blend of dried thyme, oregano, and sesame seeds known as za'atar. In Thailand, sugar can be found alongside chilli paste, while in Laos, guests are often brought fresh chillies and limes. It doesn't make any more sense to automatically season everything with pepper than it would to add cumin or za'atar to every dish you cook.

>> No.15943325

>>15940880
To dogs. Avocados kill parrots. Grapes fuck up dogs too. unless you are eating entire jars of torshi seer every other day you don’t need to worry about getting fucked up by garlic

>> No.15944018

>>15938617
Black pepper causes you to salivate. Ever notice that food tastes better when your mouth is watering? The only downside would be if you don't like the taste of black pepper or you use too much of it. I use it sparingly myself.