/ck/ - Food & Cooking

[Anonymous No.15906504]

What alcohol strikes the best balance of not getting you fat, not skyrocketing your tolerance, but still being a good time? Sprits make it difficult to drink at a decent pace throughout something, light beer still seems packed with calories for what you actually get in terms of a buzz.

I'm two months sober and when I get back to it, I want to drink more responsibly. During the pandemic I was easily tanking 24 beers in a day, and before that it wouldn't be out of the realm of a normal day drinking Saturday with friends to have like 15 beers and 7 shots or something.

I'm looking to get to that point where every time I decide to drink, I'm looking more at like 6 drinks as the high end.

[Anonymous No.15906535]

>>15906504
Ask me how I know you're American

[Anonymous No.15906599]

>>15906504
Whisky neat, pretty hard to binge on that until you have a few years of tolerance.

[Anonymous No.15906649]

alcohol is alcohol. there's no cheating your way around increasing your tolerance while still getting drunk.
as far as volume / calories goes, wine is a nice middle ground between beer and spirits.

[Anonymous No.15906687]

>>15906504
Most of the calories come from the alcohol itself, which limits your options when you still want to get a buzz.
Something with low sugar content, like whisky with a sugar free mixer.

[Anonymous No.15906866]

>>15906599
It's just so hard to make last. Sitting at a table with 4 dudes drinking beer at a beer's pace makes it hard to just sip at whiskey. Goes down quick.

>>15906649
I also plan to be drinking less days overall. Wine is what I was thinking was probably optimum. If I can call it quits at the end of a bottle, I'll have a good buzz and only have wasted like 650 calories for the rest of the day.

[Anonymous No.15906874]

>>15906866
Have a whisky and a beer?

[Anonymous No.15906880]

Alcohol is carbs. Carbs make you fat.
Don't drink if you don't want to get fat.

[Anonymous No.15906924]

>>15906880
Vodka, whiskey, and other hard alcohols have no carbs you simpleton.

[Anonymous No.15906937]

>>15906924
Not as much as beer, wine etc but they do have calories dumdum

[Anonymous No.15906948]

>>15906937
That anon said carbs. And yes, calories make you fat too. If it was just carbs, I could drink unlimited vodka.

[Anonymous No.15906966]

>>15906948
It's really not the calories in hard liquor that make you gain weight, it's how much energy your body has to expend on burning through the liquor that it doesn't burn through any fat. If you eat a cheeseburger and a coke your body will burn through all of it at roughly the same rate. If you have a cheeseburger and a shot of bourbon the body focuses solely on the bourbon and the fat from the burger just accumulates.

[Anonymous No.15906973]

>>15906924
They have alcohol. Alcohol is a carb.

[Anonymous No.15906997]

>>15906973
Uhmmm no.

[Anonymous No.15907022]

>>15906997
>ethanol is a neutral compound of carbon, hydrogen, oxygen
>carbohydrates are neutral compounds of carbon, hydrogen, oxygen
>ethanol is not a carbohydrate
???

[Anonymous No.15907039]

>>15906504
>What alcohol strikes the best balance of not getting you fat, not skyrocketing your tolerance, but still being a good time?
What alcohol has low alcohol, has low alcohol, and has a lot of alcohol?
There's no "balance", the only factor in all three of those things is the amount of alcohol. There isn't some special type of alcohol that has lower calories, lower impact on your tolerance, or gets you drunk quicker

[Anonymous No.15907045]

>>15907022
Ethanol is not a carbohydrate

[Anonymous No.15907139]

>>15907045
>carbohydrates are neutral compounds of carbon, hydrogen, oxygen
>ethanol is a neutral compound of carbon, hydrogen, oxygen

???

[Anonymous No.15907168]

>>15906535
Cause we drink 12 ounce beers and most people here are Americans anyway? Stupid.

[Anonymous No.15907170]

>>15907139
Your made up definition of carbs isn't real retard

[Anonymous No.15907246]

>>15907139
Ethanol has neither aldehyde or ketones, thus it's not a carbohydrate.

[Anonymous No.15907253]

>>15907170

[Anonymous No.15907263]

>>15907139
ethanol is the fourth macronutrient bro. did you never have a health class?

[Anonymous No.15907268]

>>15907253
>Homework help

Remember when you learned to count and numbers went 1,2,3 and then as you got older you were taught fractions because you're tiny fragile mind couldn't process all the information at once so we broke it down into tiny wittle bite size bitty wittys so you don't have a processing error and shut down? This is like that.

[Anonymous No.15907358]

>>15907039
It's more about wondering what normal people who stay in reasonable shape end up drinking. I know there's no magic drink.

[Anonymous No.15907362]

>>15906504
stay sober, retard. You clearly can't handle your shit.

[Anonymous No.15907370]

>>15907362
No, being sober sucks.

[Anonymous No.15907385]

>>15907253
Very good anon! Next can you tell me what this is?? there's a hint in the title ;)

[Anonymous No.15907392]

>>15907370
Well fair enough, but don't kid yourself. You have a serious problem because you can't manage your alcohol consumption and it has nothing to do with your choice of drink. Good luck!

[Anonymous No.15907396]

This thread is proof that science makes you gay

[Anonymous No.15907432]

>>15907392
Gotta try. The alternative of not drinking is making me seriously miserable. I have no outlet for socialization.

Anyways, any drink recommendations?

[Anonymous No.15907444]

>>15907432
Liquor and soda water, simple as

[Anonymous No.15907461]

>>15907370
if you think sobriety sucks, you probably shouldnt be drinking

also, the pandemic isnt over, kid

15 beers? what 4% lady beers? "Bud"s?

if you want to drink for a bit more of an extended time, get a kick but not too hard, the best bet is one or two hard liquor drinks and a small pile of low alc % beers.
alternately get a 8,9, 10% alc beer and stick to having a six pack.
be happy witha bit of a buzz and get to bed.

[Anonymous No.15907467]

>>15906997
>>15907045
>>15907170
>>15907246
>>15907268
>>15907385
You are apparently technically correct, but if glycerol gets lumped in with carbohydrates in a nutritional setting, it seems bizarre and inconsistent that ethanol wouldn't be. It is, in all practical effect, a carbohydrate.

>As used in foods, glycerol is categorized by the U.S. Academy of Nutrition and Dietetics as a carbohydrate. The U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) carbohydrate designation includes all caloric macronutrients excluding protein and fat.
>Ethanol is similar to macronutrients such as proteins, fats, and carbohydrates in that it provides calories. When consumed and metabolized, it contributes 7 calories per gram via ethanol metabolism.

[Anonymous No.15907496]

>>15907461
>if you think sobriety sucks, you probably shouldnt be drinking
This seems backwards. It's not like every waking moment of sobriety sucks, but going sober for an extended amount of time or what would permanently sucks. Can't go to parties, can't share a few beers with your old man, can't go for a post-work beer with the guys, can't go out to hit on girls and socialize... I can go on. There's just so much simple normal life stuff you can't do and enjoy with others when you need to avoid alcohol.

I've been doing nothing but sitting on my ass in my house and exercising/jerking off for two months. I look good but no one has seen it. Life is miserable and boring.

[Anonymous No.15907516]

>>15907461
Forgot to answer the rest of that. I know the pandemic isn't over, but the period of wide-scale shutdowns and 100% lockdown except for emergencies is over. I can meet someone for a meal, people are getting their jobs back, I can go to a bar.

And a variety of beers. During the peak pandemic it was just swilling down light beer all day but in any other situation I just mix it up.

[Anonymous No.15907523]

>>15907496
>excersizing and jerking off for 2 months
>i look great
your t is low

[Anonymous No.15907539]

>>15907523
I lost 34 lbs and have no idea what that has to do with T. Garbage meme cope shit anyways.

[Anonymous No.15908043]

>>15907539
Yeah that guy is full of shit. I'm trying to cut back on drinking too anon. You can still go out and meet new people. I'll probably start volunteer work when I find out where I'm relocating to in the next few months. Best of luck bro, be strong.

[Anonymous No.15908063]

>>15907496
sobriety does not equate "i need to avaoid alcohol" in the slightest
what are you some weak willed junky?
i hung around my smoking friends when i quit smoking. i dont see the problem?

[Anonymous No.15908090]

>>15907432
maybe try developing interests and passions instead of being a complete retard who depends on a dopamine drip fed to you by other retards

[Anonymous No.15908092]

>>15907539
adipose tissue produces estrogens. the main reason why T levels are falling in the west is because we're fatter, not for any meme reason about chemicals in your food or consumption of tofu like /fitpol/ would have you believe

[Anonymous No.15908097]

>>15908063
of course this guy is a weak willed junkie, look at the insane amount of cope he's posted already

[Anonymous No.15908143]

>>15906504
>What alcohol strikes the best balance of not getting you fat, not skyrocketing your tolerance, but still being a good time?
You want a drink that has a low alcohol/volume ratio and is low in sugar.

I recommend the Japanese Style Whisky Highball

>whisky highball
Low alcohol/volume ratio with no added sugar. You can order one anywhere and the ingredients are easy to find. A whisky highball at its worst is drinkable and refreshing. A good one is a wonderful experience. You can't really screw up the simplicity.

>Japanese style
The Japanese take a simple drink and perfect it. Look into their methods and you'll see plenty of room for home experimentation to fine tailor it to your tastes. Also, you don't have to use Japanese whisky, find a whisky/soda combination you like. I recommend learning to make clear ice at home as well to help the drink melt slower and be colder.

https://imbibemagazine.com/japanese-whisky-highball/

I also take this approach with bitters to make a Japanese Style Bitters Highball but I realize not everyone likes such strong flavors.

[Anonymous No.15908431]

>>15908063
It's not fun to go participate in something you can't actually enjoy but desperately want to. It's like going to a birthday party at an arcade as a kid but you're the only one without any tokens, so you can only watch.

>>15908090
no

[Anonymous No.15908456]

>>15908143
Why yes im a weeb how could you tell?

[Anonymous No.15908457]

>>15908092
So is a power lifter low T ?

[Anonymous No.15908597]

>>15906504
>not getting you fat,
>not skyrocketing your tolerance,
>but still being a good time?
magic mushrooms

[Anonymous No.15908613]

>>15908143
fuck reading an essay on a two ingredient drink lmao fuck this website

[Anonymous No.15908615]

>>15906874
>one bourbon
>one scotch
>and one beer

[Anonymous No.15908855]

get one of these and just use 1 shot in each drink
mix em with a lot of soda water and you should be good
also alcohol is a hydrocarbon

[Anonymous No.15909689]

>>15906504

Slavs drink vodka non stop and they all look emaciated so I guess there's your answer

[Anonymous No.15909808]

Wine. The patrician choice.

[Anonymous No.15909814]

>>15907467
Ethanol isn't a carb, stop reaching.

[Anonymous No.15909891]

Wine is a good choice OP but DO NOT drink it at the same pace as beer or you will have a bad time.

Vodka/tequila + club soda was my go to drink for the social situations you're describing, but that is mostly because I don't enjoy vodka or watered down tequila. If I don't like the drink, I drink slower and naturally pace myself.

You can also just whiskey / scotch neat and have a glass of water on the side.

[Anonymous No.15910133]

>>15909891
Yeah I mean beer is the ideal for pace but not for calories. I'm able to drink anything pretty quickly that isn't pure bottom shelf liquor.

[Anonymous No.15910304]

No one has posted this yet. And i thought ck was the repost of a repost board. I am dissapointed

[Anonymous No.15910640]

>>15910304
Well, this is OP, and this is extremely helpful.

Who in the shit knew Natty Ice was the best move to get drunk and stay in decent shape? Frat kids know what's up.

[Anonymous No.15910667]

>>15908613
>I hate it when people enjoy something and discuss it online
Your existence must be suffering. Sounds like you could use a Japanese Style Whiskey Highball to relax.

[Anonymous No.15910695]

>>15906504
do amerifats really?

[Anonymous No.15911068]

>>15907358
Hard liquor on an empty stomach, infrequently.

[Anonymous No.15911322]

>>15910640
>getting drunk
>natty light
Enjoy being full with barely a light buzz

[Anonymous No.15911360]

>>15906866
you're an alcoholic i recommend you not drink if you can't just keep it to beers or sipping neat.

[Anonymous No.15911375]

>>15911360
Not him but I am one. I drink probably half a handle a night mixed with diet coke. If I quit outright will I die? If so, how do I taper off. I'm tired of feeling mildly sick all the time and having my life revolve around this.

[Anonymous No.15911489]

>>15911375
Have less each day? How is that a fucking question retard.

[Anonymous No.15911706]

>>15911375
Based, write a novel

[Anonymous No.15911903]

>>15906504
Go russian mode, vodka with pickles, rye bread, cured meats. The flavor has to be intense. Go with scallions, raw garlic, sprats/sardines, smoked cured meats, make sure the rye bread is the right kind (the best is a brick of borodinsky, sourdough rye bread with coriander, not the shit that's sold in most grocery stores). You'd be surprised but this is comfy, the effects of the alcohol will be spread out more because of the food, and the food itself won't make you obese: pickles have practically no calories, rye bread is actually pretty good for you, garlic and onions are just veggies, cured meats and sprats are worse but at least they have no carbs

[Anonymous No.15911928]

if you care about calories then the only choice is a mix of alcohol and water, that is to say vodka, whiskey, (unspiced) rum etc. any alcoholic drink with extra carbs be it from sugar like wine or barley like beer is empty calories on top of the already empty calories from alcohol.

[Anonymous No.15912424]

>>15908431
actually, its exactly like going to a birthday party and playing every game and enjoying your friends, but just not fucking drinking alcohol.

[Anonymous No.15912531]

>>15912424
Except you're a fucking moron and the main activity everyone is doing (drinking) you can't do. Everyone looks at you like a square and asks you what the fuck is wrong because you're not acting like yourself.

And girls are immediately scared away when you say you can't drink or be around alcohol, so get ready for never enjoying a dinner party with friends with this guy.

[Anonymous No.15912563]

>>15907385
Alkyne. Has no one here taken o chem?

[Anonymous No.15912670]

>>15908615
Based John Lee Hooker.

[Anonymous No.15913986]

>>15912531
you people are so narrow minded
the point is to be with your friends. its quite easy to just say you arent in the mood, taking a break, or enjoy being sober right. what kind of shitty friends do you have? and who ever said "you cant drink" or "you cant be around alcohol"? grow the fuck up and do the fuck what you like and stand the fuck up for yourself. personally, im drinking tequila tonight and you can suck my nuts.

[Anonymous No.15914048]

I just drink pure spirits
If you want to get your tolerance down you can do hormone replacement therapy if you're male, will kill your tolerance and make you get drunk incredibly fast
Make sure to get regular blood tests so that you don't accidentally damage your livers permanently

[Anonymous No.15914084]

>>15907358
I'm a normal person who doesn't like alcohol that much. I'm a healthy weight. My favorite types of alcohol to enjoy at home are hipster/expensive beer, scotch, añejo tequila, sometimes other types of whiskey except bourbon, and sometimes wine. When I'm out I drink Guinness or cheap mixed drinks like whiskey sours and rum and cokes because alcohol at bars is overpriced. I have a pretty low tolerance.

[Anonymous No.15914107]

>>15906966
Never heard this before. So does alcohol help you retain gains?

[Anonymous No.15914224]

>>15914107
No. The "gains" you make in muscle mass are solely earned by burning off fat and carbs through exercise. If you just chug liquor after eating all you'll do is negate the fat burning your body did through exercise as it focuses on burning ethanol and all the fat you would have burned gets absorbed. Even if you vigorously exercise and chug liquor you'll still end up with fatty liver and die at 65 anyways, so being in shape is irrelevant.