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15898635 No.15898635 [Reply] [Original]

>it's literally just pasta with oil and some garlic

Is Italian food just creative poorfag gruel?

>> No.15898642

>>15898635
parmeggiano reggioano alone is probably more expensive than your last meal, fat American incel piece of NEET worthless shit

>> No.15898645

It's better than tomato sauce, I spit upon tomato sauce

>> No.15898647

>>15898635
You get a nice sauce if you stir in some pasta water cause of the starch

>> No.15898649

>>15898642
it's like a dollar dude, that may but your yearly salary but it ain't mine haha

>> No.15898654

>>15898635
Pretty much. Italian food is the art of stretching poverty ingredients

>> No.15898656

>>15898649
Really? It's over 10 dollars for 200 grams in Denmark. You're talking about your sawdust powder, innit?

>> No.15898662

poorfag food general - /pfg/

>> No.15898669

>>15898656
>Denmark
OH NO NO NO

>> No.15898671

>>15898656
Lol i knew you weren't even italian XD

>> No.15898678

>>15898671
>>15898669
hehehehehehehe :)

>> No.15898682

>>15898678
*kisses your forehead and ruffles your hair*

>> No.15898694

>>15898682
*autoerotically asphyxiates self*

>> No.15898719

>>15898635
Its true. Italian “classics” are so plain yet they revere them as if theyre some exalted culinary masterpieces that are so revered that its sacrilege to alter them in any way

>caccio e pepe
>cheese and black pepper

>literal sketti n butter

>aglio e olio
>olive oil and garlic

>carbonara
>bacon egg and cheese

oh wowwe holy fuck wow guys everybody stop the fucking presses. ive literally improved carbonara in every way imaginable:

>pancetta and guanciale
>egg, pecorino
>red pepper flake
>black garlic
>anchovy
>lemon juice/zest
>mint/parsley/chervil

wheres my fucking medal?

>> No.15898820

>>15898719
There's plenty of complex Italian dishes. The simplicity of the ones you listed is why they're so popular.

>> No.15899005

>>15898719
that's sort of the idea though. simple dishes with lots of versatility, make do with what you have, essentially

>> No.15899024

>>15898682
*leaves a big long spit trail from your mouth to his forehead*

>> No.15899025

if you knew dick about history of italian americans instead of the leftie narrative about how only blacks were oppressed or impoverished then this revelation would not surprise you in the slightest. read a fucking book

>> No.15899085

>>15898635
Few ingredients but they gotta be good quality.
I also add sun dried tomatoes, chilly peppers, plenty of parsley and some toasted breadcrumbs

>> No.15899102

>>15898719
Do whatever just don't call it carbonara

>> No.15899109
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15899109

>>15898635
Alexandre Dumas thought so, so I think so.

>> No.15899129

Well they didn't even have tomatoes until 500 years ago.

>> No.15899641

>>15898642
Pasta is expensive to buy because people are willing to pay for it. It's extremely cheap to make.

>> No.15899645

>>15899641
Parmeggiano Reggiano is a cheese

>> No.15899653

>>15899109
Dumas was a fucking hack. Most of his work is just rambling nonsense dialogue and chatter because he was paid by the line.

>> No.15899670

>>15899109
>nigger's opinion
>relevant
This is a white man's food thread, please sit at the back of the bus and leave us alone.

>> No.15899836

>>15899653
The Count of Monte Cristo is the greatest work of literature besides the Bible.

>> No.15899867
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>>15898635
>>15898719
I'm a firm believer that when it comes to cooking, less is better
Simple dishes are where it's at. Having to cover your dish in a bunch of different sauces, spices, and whatnot only really tend to hide the actual flavors you want to experience rather than complement. In general, if I see a joint adding a bunch of retarded shit to what could just be a simple dish, I can correctly assume that the parts of the sum are complete shit

>> No.15900109
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>>15898635
yes. The majority of European cuisine is just
>change a trivial 1 or 2 ingredients
>invent a completely new name for it

entire thing is a meme.

>> No.15900116

>>15899653
say that to my face faggot irl not online

>> No.15900579

>>15898719
I can hear the Traditional Italian Cooking Internet Defense Force reeeeeing from here.

>> No.15900615

so many childish retards, how are you not bored of doing this shit over and over?

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>>15898642

>> No.15900688

>>15898635
You chose a dish that's pretty much "it's 1am and I'm wine drunk, and I want to make something quick and tasty"

>> No.15900697

>>15898649
>it's like a dollar dude
retard Amerilard detected

>> No.15900701

>>15898635
Well in an Italian meal with courses, a basic pasta would be a small course, among many other courses and would be quality over quantity.

>> No.15900704

>>15900109
A blueberry isn't a means of production, brainlet.

>> No.15900718

>>15900704
>You can plant the blueberry and grow a blueberry bush and sell blueberries for a profit
Think again, communist scum

>> No.15900724

>>15898635
Aglio e olio is sort of like a bechamel or something. Sure, it's fine to stand on its own, but you can use it as a building block for so many simple yet delicious dinners.
>top with grilled artichokes and chicken w/ lemon juice
>add some olives and pecorino/parmesan
>toss with grilled/sauteed julienned red peppers and capers
Those are just ideas I've come up with experimenting, and my guests always clean their plates.

>> No.15900932

It's one of my favorite things to eat, bar none. But only when it's well-prepared using quality ingredients. You really have to appreciate food to be able to appreciate Italian food, precisely because of the simplicity.

>> No.15900949

>>15898635
looks tasty

>> No.15900957

>>15898645
This. Although the reason most americanized italian dishes that use tomato sauce are bad is that tomato sauce is severely overused in them. It is to be used sparingly. The pasta shouldn't be swimming in it. There should only be enough sauce so that it clings to the pasta, but does not pool. Olive oil does the rest of the job.

>> No.15900973

>>15898635
>t. never been to Italy

>> No.15900984

>>15900718
Still not an MoP, retard.

>> No.15900989

I like it better with butter instead of olive oil.

>> No.15901005

>>15900989
that's good too. i like both. depending on mood

>> No.15901009

>>15900989
Wouldn’t that be aglio e burro?

>> No.15901022
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15901022

>>15898719
>>red pepper flake
>>black garlic
>>anchovy
>>lemon juice/zest
>>mint/parsley/chervil

>implying that is still fucking carbonara

YES I AM MAD JUST CALL YOUR RETARDED LE QUIRKY COMBINATION SOMETHING ELSE YOU FUCKING FAGGOT !!

>> No.15901031

>>15901009
I guess so. It's tasty no matter what you call it.

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15901036

>>15901022
>still >implying in 2021

>> No.15901044

>>15898719
They've immunized themselves from this criticism by replying that "improving" their dishes makes them inauthentic.

>> No.15901099

>>15901044
Authenticity is the crutch of the unimaginative. Nona died from covid, I’m putting venison in my bolognese.

>> No.15901200

>>15898719
if you dont understand they beauty of simple things done well, i pity your life.

>> No.15901340

>>15900957
The rule for olive oil is similar. You want an amount of olive oil just shy of pooling at the bottom. So that would be less sauce than most people would think to use, and more olive oil than most people would think to use. Try it this way with al dente spaghetti (it's absolutely crucial that it is not overcooked) and you will never go back.

>> No.15901366

>>15901036
>ishygddt

>> No.15901372
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>>15901044
>thousands of years of perfecting the quality of specfic ingredients and developing ways to use a very small amount of them in perfect balance and harmony
>some faggot comes along and thinks adding some gay bullshit like mint and lemon or something is revolutionary
>hurr i figured it out how did they not think of this im a fuggingenius

>> No.15901377

>>15901022
My version of carbonara, YES CARBONARA, calls for cut up pieces of chicago deep dish pizza. It's the best carbonara you'll ever taste.

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>>15901366
>2021
>still upset a decade has gone by since 2011

>> No.15901388

>>15898642
fpbp

>> No.15901413

>>15898642
I can go to a grocery store and buy a wedge for 5 bucks, and some of the fancier markets sell some cut straight from the wheel, it's really not that expensive

>> No.15901425
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15901425

>>15901099
>covid™

>> No.15901426

>>15901380
Two decades have gone by since 2001: A Space Odyssey and 9/11

>> No.15901433

>>15898642
it's parmigiano, leaf

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15901442

>>15901036
it's here to stay, tourist
deal with it

>> No.15901445

>>15901413
>a wedge for 5 bucks
Maybe a micro-wedge to match your micro-phallus.

>> No.15901452

>>15898719
Because they are 'classics' from all the way back to Ancient Rome, they are literally the same dishes the Italian ancestors ate while they cultured the rest of the globe

>> No.15901457

>>15899836
No you are thanking of Don Quiote

>> No.15901459
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15901459

>>15898635
>Is Italian food just creative poorfag gruel?
you will find this is the case for most foods throughout history, yes.
>>15899109
>>15899653
>>15899836
Dumas' dad was the real chad who inspired a lot of his writing

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>>15901442
except its not you fucking faggot. no one has been '>implying' regularly for years

>> No.15901496
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>>15901457
Don Quixote is so funny to me because the guy literally wrote it as a critique of chivalric literature and the idiocy of chivalric behavior juxtaposed with real life (remember Spain at this time was even more pants on head retarded than it is now) - and now Don Quixote is sort of the ultimate romanticisation of that ideal, Man of Le Mancha doesn't depict Quixote as the sad senile and sometimes cruel old man he is in the book but lionizes him as a romantic who denies cruel reality to be 'better'.

These pressures were so strong even during the authors time that when he eventually wrote the 'second half' of the story you can see the tonal shift as the various misadventures Quixote gets into portray him as well meaning if insane and eventually provides for him a happy ending where he swears off chivalric story books for good after regaining his senses.

Imagine creating something with the soul purpose of satirizing a thing, only for it to become the ultimate modern lionizing of that thing. It's like if you wrote a book about how awful cocaine is and everyone could only talk about how fucking awesome your book made Cocaine sound and holy shit I wanna do cocaine.

>> No.15901508

>>15901425
Yeah, the elderly of Spain and Italy were mowed down in swaths by the cold. Idiot.

>> No.15901557

>>15901508
yeah just like how I mowed down u're mum last night :^)

>> No.15902186

>>15898635
>Is Italian food just creative poorfag gruel?
Yes

>> No.15903118

>>15901452
Romans didnt eat this food fool

>> No.15903130

>>15898654
Spanish food too but nothing wrong with it in the end. Desserts maybe not as much.

>> No.15903131

>>15899005
Unless it varies a single iota from what your mother made, in which case you're better off starving to death.

>> No.15903170

>>15898656
>Denmark
Bruh

>> No.15903227

>>15899867
I like you.

>> No.15903247

>>15898719
I'm gonna be real here.
they are "classics" in the sense that it's what people used to make at home before/right after the two wars, if they even had a chance to.
With the exception of carbonara (which is probably not what you have in mind) you would never find those """"""classics"""""" at a restaurant because every kid learns to cook those by the time he's 12.
Cheese and pepper went through a lot of advertisement in the last 5 years or so and it's mostly a tourist trap that's cheap to make and is marketed as high level cuisine.
A decent introduction to italian restaurant could be watching the italian kitchen nightmares, which is not hosted by an unsufferable cunt btw.

>> No.15903253

>>15900704
>what is joke

>> No.15903264

>>15900718
That's not a MoP lmao

>> No.15903269

>>15901425
Typical Amerifat falling for his rightoid propaganda

>> No.15903676

>>15903269
raked

>> No.15903737

>>15898719
your "carbonara" sounds disgusting

>> No.15903745

>>15898635
It definitely is,is that negative?

>> No.15903751

>>15901496
My professor told us that was the point of the book in a certain sense,a constant swirl of irony and dream (la vida es un sueño etcetera) but I don't remember much

>> No.15903773

>>15903247
That's an interesting programme I watch it sometimes

>> No.15904047

>>15903773
take a shot everytime they say "flavour explosion"

>> No.15904072

>>15899867
I like you too

>> No.15904105

>>15904047
Damn that's a neat drinking game

>> No.15905974

>>15899641
parmeggiano reggioano Is not a type of pasta

>> No.15905978

>>15900704
Please, illustrate us with your wisdom and knowledge in marxist doctrine

>> No.15906689

>>15898635
>it's literally just pasta with oil and some garlic
Yes it is. The fact is that in italy aglio e olio is a basic dish you make when you are in a hurry or you want to eat while drunk at 5AM with friends

The funny thing is that American have a big mouth and have the needs to sensationalize everything they make and they made such big deal about this dish because they are tastelet manchildren.
Probably they saw eating it in some shows and become a meme

>> No.15907885

>>15899867
This, exactly. It sums up why Italian food, when made properly, is so good

>> No.15908800

>>15901413
>>15898649
Post pics. I'll wait.

>> No.15908851

>>15898635
Do people really pay for pasta at restaurants lol? A fool and their money....

>> No.15909679

>>15898635
>poorfag gruel
nope. organic whole wheat pasta and a decent jar of sauce is great. if you can't spend 10 minutes to boil some spaghetti and microwave some sauce and instead eat a whole bag of chips or some other garbage you basically deserve to be fat.

>> No.15909730

>>15908851
most people just like to be waited on anon. i've learned most "rich people" are in debt, but they like the "im rich" feelz. truly wealthy people's brains don't even touch the mundane habits and chores of daily life they literally just show up and it's there

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>>15899867
Very true. Unless every single ingredient is absolutely crucial to a dish, a good way of improving it is simply to remove stuff

>> No.15909755

>generations of italians make tasty pasta recipes with minimal ingredients and we end up with several classics that easy, cheap and tasty to make
>this is bad because it's not french cuisine or stuff japs come with like folding an omelette thousand times over

>> No.15909756

>mfw I put parsley on my 'nara

And there's nothing you Mussolini's can do to stop me!

>> No.15909771

>>15909756
I'm not even going to argue your culinary preferences, but did you really feel the need to shorten a 9-letter word?

>> No.15909791

>>15898635

Most of "fancy cuisine" is. You think French would touch frogs and snails if not the post-revolution famine? You think Sushi is something exclusive, and not a way of serving very little fish or other seafood with a bunch of cheap rice and abundant seaweed? You think Chinese chose to eat dogs, bats, cats for the flavor? You think abundance of chili in Mexican cuisine was to make it taste better, and not make your stomach secrete enough acids to deal with half-spoiled meat?

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>>15898635
protip: italian cuisine isn't just pasta
the average italian only eats an average of 65 g (0.14 lbs) of pasta per day, roughly equivalent to one dish every other day

you can find plenty of time consuming, expensive and challenging recipes if you're interested, some classics are:
>tortellini in brodo
>tortelli di zucca
>lasagne alla bolognese
>ossobuco alla milanese
>vitello tonnato
>cacciucco
>panettone
>pastiera

decent source of italian recipes in english:
https://www.giallozafferano.com

>> No.15910028

>>15898635

Yeah, whats wrong with that? Are you under the impression that expensive=better?

>> No.15910057

>>15898719
I posted yesterday that Italians have one of the most snobby and autistic food cultures.
>MAMA MIA! you cannot use bacon in carbonara! You have to use pancetta! >My grand a-mamma would roll around in her a-grave if she a-saw this!

>> No.15910085

>>15898642
seethe, also hace sex chud

>> No.15910104

>>15910057
I don't give a damn to be honest,and most Italians aren't anal about such trivialities; then again of course we have a sizeable number of mongs,just like in every country

>> No.15910106

>>15899867
>Having to cover your dish in a bunch of different sauces, spices, and whatnot only really tend to hide the actual flavors you want to experience rather than complement.

So Indian food basically

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>>15901372
I like Italian food because it’s simple

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15910139

>>15898635
You say it like it’s a bad thing.

>> No.15910844

>>15898635
All ancient cultural cuisines are just creative poorfag gruel.