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15758001 No.15758001 [Reply] [Original]

Why isn't stout more popular? You'd think beer with more alcohol would be in demand.

>> No.15758027

because most beer drinkers in the us prefer either cheap weak piss water like bud or some hipster ipa that's overloaded with hops to cover up the taste of it actually being cheap piss water.

>> No.15758039

>>15758001
>You'd think beer with more alcohol would be in demand.
IPAs have that covered

>> No.15758068 [DELETED] 

>>15758001
Only fags drink nasty pisswater microbrew ipas
american beer is ALL shit

>> No.15758318

I like stout but I can understand not liking it. Most stouts (eg Guinness) don't have a much higher alcohol content than larger

>> No.15758327

>>15758001
Dark beers are my favourite, and have the most interesting results involving food also.

>> No.15758341

>>15758027
>overloaded with hops to cover up the taste
This opinion was outdated 10 years ago. I wonder why it still gets propagated in places where poor knowledge of brewing is rampant.

>> No.15758357

>>15758027
>ipa that's overloaded with taste to cover up the taste

>> No.15758373

>>15758341
well because in a surprising amount of places the only IPAs people have tried are either out of date bottles of Lagunitas/Goose Island/etc sitting in the fridge at the local bar or else crappy local craft beer that's indistinguishable from mediocore homebrew

>> No.15758560

>>15758341
Probably because they bought into the memes and tried drinking Dogfish Head first because 'a moron on the internet hyped it'. Dogfish Head is TERRIBLE and tastes eerily like Steel Reserve. There are many fantastic IPAs but Dogfish is not one of them. However Dogfish was heavily, heavily shilled to hipsters looking to not only get hammered but to feel all bourgeois doing it.

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>>15758001
i don't know why the anti-IPA brigade on /ck/ proposes stouts as some sort of anti-hipster beer. hipsters love stouts like they do IPAs.

>> No.15758592

>>15758560
what's a good IPA

>> No.15758634

It depends where you are but stout have been very popular in UK but not so much in countries like belgian where they prefer their dark beer without roasted malt. Personally I prefer the Belgian way of doing it.

In US people like IPA, and stout taste nothing like it so it's not very surprising it's not that popular.

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>>15758592
>USA west coast
Russian River Pliny the Elder
Stone Ruination
Ballast Point Sculpin

>USA New England
The Alchemist Heady Topper
Trillium Congress Street
Tree House Julius

>UK
Verdant Putty
Deya Into the Haze
By the River Doubleheeder
Beak Parade

>> No.15758738

>>15758001
Literally the only good type of beer

>> No.15758754

>>15758027
You know that small beers were a big thing in human history. Also you won't find a more satisfying beer than cheap American beer to quench your thirst in the middle of summer. Fuck off retard.

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>>15758754
>you won't find a more satisfying beer than cheap American beer to quench your thirst in the middle of summer
The words of a docile American NPC who has never expanded his horizons. Honestly try a decocted Helles or Czech Pilsner some time. No watery macropiss even comes close to the crisp, crushable refreshing bliss that those lagers provide.

>> No.15758933

Because stouts are slightly more unapproachable in flavor compared to say an easy drinking pale ale or pilsner given how roasty it is.
Also stouts are generally more expensive so not the first choice of the bargain consumer.

>> No.15759269

>>15758591
that's cause they know nothing about beer

>> No.15759279

>>15758001
Stout is perceived as less approachable because retards like you perpetuate the "stout has higher ABV" notion. For fuck's sake, Guinness is the most popular stout in the world, and it has a lower ABV than Budweiser.

>> No.15759333

>>15758027
>in the us prefer either cheap weak piss water like bud
Pale lager is drank in great quantities all over the world.
You don’t seem to know much about beer.

>> No.15759934

>>15758001
I like how drinking a bunch of stout turns my poop black.

>> No.15760121

>>15758001
Because boks exist

>> No.15760134
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15760134

stouts are my favorite kind of beer. my best homebrew recipe is for a stout, it's a "clone" of pic related

>> No.15760146

sometimes i like to grab a warm/flat fallen soilder and dump like 1-3oz of coffee in there (depending how much beer left in there) and it taste like a stout. i wont drink more than two or threee of them desu

>> No.15760153

>>15758001
Stouts are incredibly popular. The 3 styles damn near every brewery makes are ipa, stout, porter. I see just as many meme stouts now as I do meme ipas

>> No.15761318
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15761318

>>15758001
Nigga wine exists

>> No.15761335

>>15758001
Beer is literally bread water

>> No.15761359

>>15761335
You're thinking of kvass

>> No.15761388

>>15761359
Nah mate,ancient Egyptians and Sumerians made beer by fermenting pieces of bread in water(also adding honey sometimes)

>> No.15761398

>>15761388
Well, why don't you go ask them if I give a shit. Modern beer is not made that way, and modern kvass is.

>> No.15761404

>>15761398
That was a dumb joke for the most part

>> No.15761407

>>15761404
Then why aren't I laughing?

>> No.15761414

>>15761407
I'm sorry :(

>> No.15761575

>>15758001
There's so much other strong beer than stouts.

>> No.15761597

>>15758001
Watch out for the Guinness Shits™

>> No.15761604

>>15758592
Goose Island
Dale's

>> No.15761616
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15761616

one of the most popular imported beers in the USA is a stout

>> No.15761629

>>15761616
This stuff sucks

>> No.15761635

>>15761629
yes, it does.

>> No.15761640

>>15758001
Stout is the marmite of beers; you either love it or hate it

>> No.15761656

Stout is like Guinness right?

>> No.15761673
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15761673

Dragon's Milk is pretty good.

>> No.15761705

where do you even go to buy all these special brands of beer? when i go to the grocery store all they have is guinness. and the liquor store only sells liquor.

>> No.15761718

>>15761705
If you have to ask then don't worry about it. Enjoy your off-the-rack pilsner

>> No.15761731

>>15761705
Well, stuff like Dragon's Milk isn't hard for me to find because I live in Michigan. New Holland is Michigan beer.

>> No.15761923

>>15761705
Anywhere that sells beer

>> No.15762036

>>15761673
/thread

>> No.15762209

>>15761705
try an upscale grocery (the one where the rich people go)

>> No.15762221

>>15758001
Many countries levy higher taxes on beverages that exceed a certain level of alcohol. That's why most beers stick to 5%(varies by country)

>> No.15762368

>>15758001
can someone recommend me a stout that doesn't taste like coffee
i've only had a few but they've all tasted like coffee to me, and i hate coffee

>> No.15762546

>>15762368
Well, I love coffee.

To each his own, I guess.

>> No.15762554

>>15762368
Left hand nitro milk stout. Any sweet sounding stout really. The lactose really mellows the bitterness

>> No.15762792

>>15761673
>dragons milk
>not a milk stout

>> No.15762798

>>15761705
At a shop that specializes in selling craft beer or online.

>> No.15763048

Irishfag here

If you drink Guinness from a can, it will suck
If you drink Guinness from a place that doesn't know how to pour it, it will suck
Murphy's is better than Guinness, except in Dublin

>> No.15763186

>>15762546
your tastebuds are fucked. likely a smoker and/or 40+

>> No.15763835

>>15758373
So you deliberately tried only shit and are complaining that all of it is like that?

>> No.15763841

>>15758775
You just don't get it because summer doesn't exist in your miserable dystopia

>> No.15763855
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>>15758068
>american beer is ALL shit
Thanks for that hot take yuropoor

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>>15763855
>posting racist beer
Literally any craft brewery can make a passable BA stout, usually better than KBS too.
Also 99% of Europeans know that there is good beer in America, you just got baited by one of your own.

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15764669

Niggas here is yer solution

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>>15763048
Guinness Foreign Extra from a bottle is better than all of those.

>> No.15764689

>>15764669
>macrolager that isn't German or Czech
Why even bother

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>>15764604
,>Giving a fuck about someone being racist

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>>15764690
>someone
>thinking corporations are people
>giving money to racist businesses
I'd rather be part of the solution brah

>> No.15764737

>>15764696
It was just people at the brewery. Unless they were making beer that murdered minorities, the business isn't racist. People were. And who actually fucking cares that they made jokes about blacks

>> No.15764742

>>15759269
Brewers tend to love both too. Usually it's 3 or 4 styles that you'll see professional brewers make and drink in their free time - heavyish/imperial stouts, heavy or sessionable IPAs, Tripels, and clean lagers/kolsches.

>> No.15764832

>>15764689
Because I'm a Venetian nationalist

>> No.15764834

>>15764737
They let it happen for a long time and quite honestly there are plenty of more ethical breweries brewing beer of equal or better quality.
Good craft breweries are a dime a dozen so there's no reason not to take your pick of the more socially/environmentally aware ones.

>> No.15764851

>>15758592
Sierra Nevada's Celebration IPA is my personal favorite. If you can't into IPAs, start with pale ales. Oskar Blue's Dale's Pale Ale is a tremendous beer, and you can't go wing with a classic like Sierra Nevada's Pale.

>> No.15764858

>>15761616
Only technically importated because the Guinness sold in the US is actually brewed in Canada, not Ireland.

It's okay out of a can or on draft, still tastes like water but the nitro makes it fun. But yes, in any case, Guinness is most definitely the Bud Light of stouts.

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>>15764858
All Guinness in the world originates as unfermented wort extract made in St. James' Gate in Dublin, which is then shipped around the world to regional brewing sites where the extract is hydrated and fermented into the final product. These include Logos, Nigeria and Montreal, Canada as well as a couple of other smaller places. The logistics of Guinness is pretty interesting desu

>> No.15764957

>>15764901
Can we all tell them to stop letting Molson use their own yeast on the Canadian Extra Stout? It's fuckin' gahbaj.

>> No.15764969

>>15758591
hipsters don't like IPAs or stouts

maybe stouts are actually more hipster if there's some local regional brewery that's been mass-producing them for ages

>> No.15764971
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15764971

Porter > stout

>> No.15764973

>>15761318
>valpolicella
boomer detected

>> No.15764977

>>15764971
BUT WHERE THE HELL'S THE LINE!?

>> No.15764984

>>15764851
Celebration is so good. I stockpile it every year.

>> No.15764985

>>15764977
>>15764971
there really isn't, stouts have roasted malts where porters don't, that's about it
the flavor profile can overlap so greatly that you wouldn't be able to tell if something is a porter or a stout by taste alone necessarily
but IN GENERAL, I suppose stouts have more "burnt" flavoring and porters are more malty
But again, people who say they like one vs the other more than likely found a good porter/stout they liked, looked at whether it was a porter/stout, then declared that the beer style of their favorite beer > the other beer style

>> No.15765051

>>15764985
lol, I know. It's just something I say when one of my biz-buddies makes a sessionable stout or an imperial porter. Even the roasted/black malt thing isn't true 100% of the time - it's almost a bacon-level cheat to use a pinch of black malt or roasted (unmalted) barley, and no high-L crystal or heavy/foamy malts to get some dark 'porteriness' into what would otherwise be a dark blonde or red ale. For my own stuff (the stuff I spearhead at the brewery and the stuff I make in my kitchen), if the end result is heavy and opaque, I call it a stout. If it's lighter and I can see through a pint of it, I call it a porter.

That line in particular started when I dropped off a keg of Germanned up "Dubliner Porter" to my local bar last year just before (everything closed for) St. Paddy's. The owner was a bit drunk, and she got all uppity - "I ordered a stout, like Guinness!" "This is a bit heavier and a bit darker. I've got a 12 pack in the van, we should probably have a tailgate party about this the next time you come out for a smoke. Bring [the head bartender]." ... long story short: "I like this. Why the hell is it a porter? I don't usually like porters. WHERE THE HELL'S THE LINE!?"

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>>15758001
because porters are better

>> No.15765213

>>15764834
Again, so what? Did they hurt anyone? No. They made jokes and said the word nigger. I couldn't care less since that has been every single work place I've ever been at. The only genuine race based hatred I've experienced were hmong vs koreans.

>> No.15765306

>>15765132
Baltic Porter's its own animal - closer to Imperial Stout than most other dark beers.

>> No.15765467

>>15765213
They said nigger directly to a black employee. I get that we're all epic gamers here but surely you have a scraping of empathy somewhere for the dude that had to put up with bring discriminsted against. To me it just indicates a general unpleasant culture within the company, which brings me back to my question: Why would you give your money to them when there are a hundred other, better options?

>> No.15765497

>>15758001
Also stouts are more tasty than meme ipas

>> No.15765503

>>15758027
Hops are expensive

>> No.15765533

>>15765467
Get the fuck over it. They said a word near a black person. It wasn't even at him to my knowledge. If they were violent or neglected qualified people based on their race, that's shitty. I hardly buy any beer from outside my state anymore regardless, but I'm also not going to stop buying a product because someone said nigger in the company. That's retarded.

>> No.15765604

Take the beer journey:
>Piss beer
>piss beer extra flavour
>one good beer followed by piss
>cheap but ok beer
>expensive tryhard beer
>expensive good beer
>whatever just not piss
>piss beer

>> No.15765759

>>15765533
Suit yourself racism-enabler
I'll be be over here with all my ethically produced bangers on the right side of history!

>> No.15765804

>>15765604

Hello fellow day drinker

>> No.15765902

>>15765759
The beer industry is dominated by white cis men. That's not ethical. Do. Better.

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Got these for st pat day

>> No.15766090

>>15764604
>>15764696
>>15764834
>>15765467
Niggerfaggot.

>> No.15766100
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15766100

I only drink Coors Banquet

>> No.15766104

>>15760134
Recommend me some stouts, anon

>> No.15766105

>>15766100
Johnny lawrence did nothing wrong and larusso is an illegal kick throwing faggot

>> No.15766111

>>15761616
>A beer company patented a nitrogen ball technology that makes stouts taste better in a can
>it's wasted on the most watery fucking "stout" in existence, barely tastes like anything to begin with

>> No.15766117

>>15758733
>Russian River Pliny the Elder
Fuckin love this. The RR bars are always full

>> No.15766119

>>15763186
>Be me, 24
>never smoked
>fucking love coffee and regularly drink it black

>> No.15766669

Barleywine > stout

>> No.15766791

Too heavy, puts me to sleep

>> No.15766834

>>15758001
I like using stout in camping stew
something really nice about it

I also just like drinking it, but that's less fun

>> No.15766850

>>15760134
Look at the tidy pint, the head on that, hnnnnnnggg

>> No.15766999

>>15758027
>some hipster ipa that's overloaded with hops to cover up the taste of it actually being cheap piss water.
If anything stouts are the style that is most lenient for covering up brewer incompetence. A poorly brewed IPA is more noticeable than a poorly brewed stout because hops don't cover up botched fermentations like roasted malts do.

>> No.15767882

>>15758001
As a stout lover I'll tell you the truth

Most people dont like beer so they drink inoffensive lightweight beers with mild tastes to fit in

Worth noting that mild beers do have a place though

>> No.15767943

I live in Dublin Ireland and usually drink Prazsky lager which is maybe the cheapest lager here, but it seems to me made in Czechia and it's OK. Other than that all other beers are mostly made in Ireland, from Stella to Heineken to Bavaria or Coors Lite, which is my second go-to. Guiness gives me terrible hangovers.

>> No.15767950

>>15764675
>implying theres 1 foreign extra

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I got really into stouts/barleywines/quads/etc and became a fatass fairly quickly despite having a fast metabolism. Stop drinking if you value your physical and mental health

>> No.15767989

dark beers tend to be overly sweet and "empty" tasting, like the body just isn't where it needs to be

>> No.15768264

>>15765966
>4.6% alcohol

>> No.15768624

>>15765902
Find me more people like my self-proclaimed "1-drop-white bulldyke" Estonia (real name Anneke, but "Dark like a Baltic Porter, and she'll fuck you up twice as fast!") and I'll hire ever last one, but I think she's an uncommon type of mutant. Too strange to live, too rare to die. She's got a wicked wit, a great work ethic, she's great with clients, and her recipes never suck.

>> No.15768680

>>15767986
I don't.

>> No.15768787

>>15768264
For a dry stout... yeah.

>> No.15768802

>>15758001
not sure what it is but around the age of 26 my body started having issues with certain beers. Drink milk stout and suddenly feel like I have ot burp and throwup rest of night, end up burping out foam and feel overly full off a few beers in an uncomfortable way

might be gluten intolerance not sure but kinda avoiding them since

>> No.15768810

>>15768802
How are you with milk? Sounds like lactose intolerance to me.

>> No.15768824

>>15768810
probably not lactose since I eat cheese and ice cream alot still, havent had milk in forever tho

looking it up more might be acid reflux

>> No.15769223

>>15758592
Three Floyd's Gumballhead or Hopslam
Toppling Goliath Pseudo Sue
probably whatever your local microbrewery is cooking up

>> No.15769252

>>15760134
i love Rasputin, everything North Coast puts out is great but Rasputin is really good. Too heavy though, which is my beef with stouts- after two you're pretty much too full to drink more. It seems like a lot of microbreweries are making tasty stouts these days, mostly tasting like desserts. I had Stone's mexican chocolate stout a few days ago (Xocoveza?) and it was super tasty. My local spot made a cinnamon bun stout that was really good too. Peanut butter stouts tend to be good

>> No.15769310

>>15765467
>>15765759
i was not previously aware of a controversy with Founder's and generally agree with you on most political points but you are being such a faggot about it and shitting up an apolitical discussion with woke bullshit that i'm going to buy a 12 pack of all-day next time i'm at the store just to spite you.

>> No.15769329

>>15768624
what the fuck are you even talking about, shut the fuck up who cares

>> No.15769524

>>15768624
Is this one of those AI-generated posts I keep hearing about?

>> No.15769668

>>15758733
Stone and Ballast Point are ass and overpriced

>> No.15769681

>>15769329
>>15769524
Get me an angry black lesbian for my brewery, or go off and fuck each other's hats, you hideous Bud swillers.

>> No.15770065

>>15764834
Lay off the IPAs and Soylent for a while you turbofaggot

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>>15767950
I mean the good one obviously, brewed in Dublin.

>> No.15771036

>>15770458
>foreign extra
>foreign
>Ireland
>foreign
>all Guinness is made from extract from Ireland

Bruv.....

>> No.15771054

>>15758754
>American beer
>It's literally Lager
Oh right it's """American""" like mac and cheese

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>>15771036
>what is marketing
I bet you think your local pizza place is really "world famous" too

>> No.15771495

Stout has the same problem as statbucks coffee: tastes burnt.
porter > stout

>> No.15771502

>>15771495
Porter tastes like fruit-glazed arsehole
I much prefer a roasty toasty stouty boi

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>>15771502
I'll defer to your experience licking shitholes, but i'm not convinced your worm-ridden tongue knows what non-human fruit tastes like.

>> No.15771548 [DELETED] 

>>15765467
Fuck niggers, drink fosters.

>> No.15772064

>>15758754
>quench your thirst
>beer
What the fuck

>> No.15772070

>>15772064
Lighter beers are refreshing

>> No.15772123

>>15772070
I can sort of see that, and know of a few that I really enjoy on a hot day but they won't quench your thirst bro

>> No.15773052

>>15772070
German Leichtbier >>>>>>>>> American Light Lager. 2-3% ABV but still flavorful and enjoyable to drink.

>> No.15773714

>>15773052
Nah. Coors light is the king. Miller lite is acceptable