/ck/ - Food & Cooking

[Anonymous No.15655427]

Why is American food like this?

[Anonymous No.15655454]

>>15655427
the real question is, why are UE countries (chill britfags, you're still in the UE geographically) actually have regulations, cause our governments are mostly anti-citizen, so these regulation in our favor seem out of place

[Anonymous No.15655470]

>>15655427
they arent even the same types of product.

[Anonymous No.15655473]

>>15655427
The US government is extremely strict with its ingredients listing requirements.

[Anonymous No.15655483]

>>15655427
>US label lists all ingredients so customers can make an informed decision
>UK version hides them away, freeze-dried strawberries are probably made of horse meat
What's the issue?

[Anonymous No.15655488]

Oats are fortified here too, it's just not on the label.

[Anonymous No.15655496]

>>15655427
And yet you're country is barely less fat than we are.

[Anonymous No.15655512]

>American food discloses its ingredients instead of hiding them
What's wrong with that?

[Anonymous No.15655514]

Looks like cherry picking a different version of the product to shill on /ck/ because Americans live rent free in your head

>Left
Instant oatmeal strawberries and cream flavor
>right
Oat so simple, probably thier health marketed verity, doesn't claim to be instant, isn't strawberry and creme flavor missing the creme entirely thats probably where a large portion of lefts ingredients come from

[Anonymous No.15655520]

>>15655496
Christ, british slags are scary. I like baked beans, though, I can't imagine toast adds anything, but I'd eat it.

[Anonymous No.15655529]

>>15655514
No, it's not the health marked variety, and yes, the packaging states ready in two minutes. The cream is included in the "flavorings".

The difference is the Uk one expects you to use milk while the US is expecting water. That's why it's full of gum and palm oil and creamer and shit. The UK doesn't really truck with this dairy abolitionism nearly as much as America does.

[Anonymous No.15655579]

>>15655427
just buy the other one.

[Anonymous No.15655624]

The really funny part is that there are no strawberries in the US one. Just strawberry flavored apple.

[Anonymous No.15655637]

>>15655624
>>15655529
See
>>15655579

You've been bamboozled by cherry picking.

[Anonymous No.15655713]

>>15655427

Its a long story OP, but the short version is that we have a habit here in America of establishing legislature that supposedly will benefit a specific group, or do a specific thing. But in practice and over time does precisely the opposite.

In the food production and distribution industry, there are a lot of >100yr old laws that were passed at the turn of the 20th c. or even during the 19th c. that were intended to help or protect small businesses and farmers, which over the past 100-150 years had the exact opposite effect, or were exploited in some way buy bigger smarter business.

Also the way that food, drug, and food&drug labeling laws work here have a large influence. The short version again, is that there are many laws and regulations to be followed, enough to drown out anyone without deep enough pockets from getting their product to market. These regulations are of course, supposed to keep us safe from companies with unscrupulous intentions. But again, in *practice* they keep out small entrepreneurs while providing a safe system for unscrupulous companies to get their Jollies...Err, I mean munees. They can slap "organic" or "natural" or "fresh" or w.e the fuck they want on the package, because the law says they HAVE to tell us whats in it. So every package has a million mile long list of whats ACTUALLY in it somewhere in the ingredients section, at a non-standardized area of the packaging, somewhere in microscopic print. Meanwhile on the FRONT of the container (standardized), in READABLE and aesthetic print, you get what is essentially just a diversion these days, but a description of what you would normally assume you are buying.

Not a coincidence imho, that the point in our recent history when processed foods were introduced to our food environment in a major way is the same point of time when cancer diagnosis became prevalent in a major way in the US.

...I'm almost done

[Anonymous No.15655794]

>>15655713
>someway buy bigger smart business
>>buy bigger business
>>>BUY

kms.

But yeah also what everyone else said about comparing like kinds and yadda yadda.

Here's a couple books if you actually want some answers to the questions you seek:

"The Dorito Effect: The surprising new truth about food & flavor" - Mark Schatzker
https://www.amazon.com/Dorito-Effect-Surprising-Truth-Flavor/dp/1476724237


"Food Fight: The inside story of the food industry, America's obesity crisis, and what we can do about it" - Kelly D. Brownell
https://www.amazon.com/Inside-Industry-Americas-Obesity-Crisis-dp-0071402500/dp/0071402500/ref=mt_other?_encoding=UTF8&me=&qid=


optional: "Chicken: the dangerous transformation of America's favorite food" - Steve Striffler (Wouldn't recommend this unless you wanna spend a long time as a vegetarian afterwards).
https://www.amazon.com/Chicken-Dangerous-Transformation-Americas-Favorite/dp/0300123671


And finally MAKE SURE you watch the documentary "Food Inc" Its the quickest and easiest to digest way to get a lot of information about this stuff.
There is also a companion book to the documentary, which I HIGHLY recommend. its "Food inc: How industrial food is making us sicker, fatter, and poorer - And what you can do about it" by Karl Weber.
https://www.amazon.com/Food-Inc-Participant-Industrial-Poorer/dp/1586486942

[Anonymous No.15655837]

>>15655427
Dumb people who never challenge any authority unless its because of phantom racism or because someone is trying to ban military styled weapons. Americans will eat cancerous by-products that Europeans view as toxic waste. We pride ourselves on such stupidity, and actually chastise the few Americans who object to eating garbage.

[Anonymous No.15655845]

>>15655794
Food Inc is awesome.

[Anonymous No.15655871]

>>15655427
>>15655624
>>15655529
>>15655713
>>15655837
>Redditors actually falling for clickbait because these self-hating whites can't accept that America actually has regulations to make you list ingredients, including on the actual Quaker Oats product in >>15655579
You seriously need to return to /r/politics

[Anonymous No.15655895]

America is not a country it is a business and its citizens are the cattle.

[Anonymous No.15655902]

>>15655895
You too are the cattle who fell for the clickbait without seeing the real American version

[Anonymous No.15655923]

>>15655520
I tried it for myself and it actually tastes pretty good. If you're skeptical then just make some beans and dip some toast in like its a chip.

[Anonymous No.15655928]

>>15655871
Why do these products sell then? Because Americans are too lazy/stupid not to buy them.

[Anonymous No.15656361]

>how come one product has different ingredients than another?

[Anonymous No.15656394]

>>15655470
yes they are.

[Anonymous No.15656413]

>>15655928
You took the most obvious bait ever. Congratulations, you are the weakest fag, goodbye.

[Anonymous No.15656422]

>>15655845
>>15655794
>Food Inc
Almost took this guy serious for a second.

[Anonymous No.15657292]

>>15655427
Everything on the left is hidden behind "natural flavouring" on the right

[Anonymous No.15657376]

>>15655473
This: it’s the same product but bongs aren’t required to list all of the additives

[Anonymous No.15657406]

>>15655520
It tastes exactly how you would expect. I imagine it's one of those things that you would only enjoy if you grew up with it.

[Anonymous No.15657468]

>>15655427
Those are two different products by the same company.

[Anonymous No.15657649]

>>15655427
not reading replies but everything in parentheses doesn't have to be listed in uk/eu, a lot of those big scary sounding words on the bottom of the us are vitamins and minerals, and natural flavouring sounds like some bullshit umbrella term the US one would have to spell out everything for

[Anonymous No.15657837]

>>15655871
If you think it's okay to list apple pieces with artificial strawberry flavoring as "freeze dried strawberries" in Europe, you must be retarded.

[Anonymous No.15657854]

[Anonymous No.15657897]

>>15655427
Pic related is the nutrition label pulled directly from the website. https://www.quakeroats.com/products/hot-cereals/instant-oatmeal/strawberries-and-cream Reviews say they changed the recipe.

>>15656394
The products in the OP aren't the same, nor are they trying to appeal to the same market. The "simple" denotation is very visible, and it is exactly what it says: simple fucking ingredients. They aren't even the same flavor, or trying to go for the same taste. The "US" product is clearly trying to imitate fake tasting "strawberry and cream" flavor, which they achieved. At least 7 of the ingredients in it are also minerals/vitamins. Two/three of the ingredients are of concern: sunflower/palm oils, and red 40. The oils were likely used for the texturing. The red 40 because it isn't real strawberry (artificial strawberry flavor.) Everything else is 100% fine and okay.Check the reviews for the Strawberry & Cream product, they changed the entire recipe and quite a few reviews hate the "simpler" (or "better") recipe; because it likely doesn't taste as processed, as fake ("good"), or whatever. There's a reason ingredient lists are so long in the US (discounting long chemical names or fucking vitamins,) processed foods aim to taste good and that's it.

If you're buying processed foods for its ingredient quality (or lack thereof) you're doing it entirely wrong.

[Anonymous No.15657952]

>>15655427
Well, ignoring the fact that is comparing dissimilar products, this shit's come up time and time again when it comes to wretched cunt mom blogers regurgitating this shit. It's always somehow US vs UK and nothing else. And it's mostly because the one thing the UK doesn't stomp on everyone's nuts for is food labeling. You can take identical products from the US and compare the US vs UK label and they are half the length because the vast majority of the shit is just lumped under "flavouring" in the UK. The world all eats the same garbage, and I'm going to stab the next mother fucker that talks shit about the US being lardasses, when all you fucking euros are only about 3 percentage points behind us on pretty much every metric.

[Anonymous No.15657961]

>>15655427
>one country has strict labeling requirements
>the other doesnt

[Anonymous No.15657985]

>>15655427
The product on the right specifically says it has simple ingredients. We have those too, asshole. But it's just to appeal to hippies like the jerks who run your weird faggy country.

[Anonymous No.15658007]

>>15655454
>being in a political organisation geographically
Imagine being this much of a retard

[Anonymous No.15658018]

to different products bonehead. At first you had me. The US one has fake cream and other shit to stabilize it, the UK version is just oatmeal and freeze dried fruits.

[Anonymous No.15658021]

>>15657854
This. It's mostly communists though, at least here in the Netherlands you can hear the same people berating others for being bigots yet claiming ''all Americans are fat and stupid''. It's asinine to the point of cringeworthyness because it's like a mantra: it's repeated so often it becomes a truth in its own right in the mind of the normie. They'll even allude casually like "*sigh* Americans..." thinking they made some snide comment and people will laugh about it. Sure, there are a lot of stupid Americans but sadly there are a lot of stupid Europeans too. Difference is that most Americans are polite enough not to make a cultural trope out of it.

[Anonymous No.15659029]

>>15657837
>He fell for the clickbait but still won't admit it and is trying to defend himself
Europeans really are fucking stupid

[Anonymous No.15659168]

>>15655454
Its called the EU you moron.

[Anonymous No.15659178]

>>15659029
It's literally a product that exists
That OP is a silly comparison doesn't invalidate that

[Anonymous No.15659226]

>>15655520
Not British. No brit would mistakenly make beans on plate with toast on the side when trying to make beans on toast.

[sub swap No.15659302]

>>15655514
>creme
wtf is that?

[Anonymous No.15659331]

>>15655496
Silly bitch can't even get the beans on the toast properly
Would not eat breakfast with/10

[Anonymous No.15659488]

>>15655483
you couldn't even find a decent ingredient to meme so you invented horse meat strawberries. Pathetic

[Anonymous No.15659515]

>>15659331
If that guy were actually processed properly instead of just being oiled and put on a table he could probably become delicious porchetta.

[Anonymous No.15659551]

>>15658021
What? I'm pretty sure that Americans do it as weel. The only difference is that they actually make a difference between European country, while European think that there is no difference between southerner and Northerner or Coasties and Fly-over states inhabitant.

[Anonymous No.15659596]

>>15659551
europe doesnt really come up very often

[Anonymous No.15659749]

>>15659515
At first I was gonna disagree but he probably got that fat on essentially what is livestock feed.

It would be pretty easy to set up the slaughter, the idiot is a gimp masochist. Blindfold him and hang him upside down. Give him a massage to relax him, then shoot him between the eyes and then bleed him out. If you have him hanging spread eagle you pretty much have the work done for you, he's fucking hairless, maybe a quick run of a torch to scald whatever hair is on his skin, then disembowel. Save the liver for pate if it looks good enough.
I would probably turn the breasts into prosciutto, his legs into Jamón.

The backstrap would be obviously be eaten fresh.

The main issue is this guy is easily around the weight of an industrial hog. Slaughtering him legally constitutes murder, and it's going to take a good minute to finish him. You need a group of cannibal buddies to help you. Maybe if you bring him to some remote tribe that still practices cannibalism you can share him with some grateful villagers without too much worry about legal ramifications.

If you could somehow bring him to North Sentinel island or some remote African/Indian area where you know cannibalism is practiced, you can just make up some bullshit story that the peoples got him and you managed to escape.

[Anonymous No.15659893]

>>15655454
>cause our governments are mostly anti-citizen, so these regulation in our favor seem out of place
The EU does some good stuff sometimes. Didn't they ban mobile phone roaming charges?

>>15659168
Imagine not knowing that French people say UE you fucking moron.

[Anonymous No.15660712]

>>15659488
You're not nearly as autistic as I am. Pathetic.

[Anonymous No.15660738]

>>15655427
Exact same shit US regulation requires more detail in ingredients list.

[Anonymous No.15660740]

>>15655427
Both are bad.

[Anonymous No.15660983]

>anglo talking about food quality
lmfao

[Anonymous No.15661067]

what the fuck is a riboflavin? PASS

[Anonymous No.15661172]

>>15659893
>admitting to being french

[Anonymous No.15661249]

>>15661172
worse still, a belgian

[Anonymous No.15661254]

>>15661172
I'm not French. I'm just not dumb either.

[Anonymous No.15661910]

>>15661249
Not Belgian either. I'm British. I just have a basic level of general knowledge that I thought most non-stupid people also had.

[Anonymous No.15662430]

>>15661910
> I'm British.
lmao that's even worse hahahahaha

[Anonymous No.15662467]

>>15662430
Enjoy seething, retard.

[Anonymous No.15663772]

Companies are allowed to poison us since it generates more income for them and the healthcare industry

[Anonymous No.15664962]

>>15655454
god youre so fucking retarded

[Anonymous No.15664974]

>>15655427


"Natural Flavoring" Can mean anything.

[Anonymous No.15666128]

>>15664974
Outside of America we know it isn't newspeak for 50 toxic chemicals

[Anonymous No.15667153]

>>15655496
10/10 in bongland btw

[Anonymous No.15667838]

>>15666128
It literally is

[Anonymous No.15667994]

>>15667838
Wrong amerilard, we have actual food regulations over here