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which is healthier?

>> No.15584494

>>15584492
Olive oil

>> No.15584499

>>15584494
pssh

>> No.15584503

don’t care, both have their uses

>> No.15584505

moderation

>> No.15584509

>>15584505
That's wiggity wiggity wack.

>> No.15584510

Flaxseed oil

>> No.15584513

Both are good, avoid vegetable oils , they are literally cancer.

>> No.15585442

>>15584492
A better comparison would be Ghee vs Olive Oil. As a spaniard I would go with the latter, not even checking facts.

>> No.15585472

>>15584492
Did you put that picture together yourself on Paint?

>> No.15585485

>>15585442
>Ghee
My entire live I have heard everyone call it clarified butter, only now did everyone started calling it by their poo name because it’s trendy

>> No.15585683

>>15585472
Found on Google.

>> No.15585695

>>15584492
>which is healthier?
>>>/fit/

>> No.15585746

>>15584492
Olive oil doesnt have trans fats

>> No.15585788

Olive oil but it tastes like shit

>> No.15585833

>>15584492
Coconut and peanut oil. Butter is way tastier though.

>>15584494
>>15585746
>>15585788
Olive has a too low smokepoint to be useful for all kinds of cooking. It's more like a dressing that you add after the cooking is done.

>> No.15585849

>>15585833
>Olive has a too low smokepoint
olive oil has a high smoke point.

>> No.15585859

>>15585849
Not really if you compare it to something like sunflower oil.

>> No.15585870

>>15585833
I'll call adam
I'll do it! I swear

>> No.15586876

>>15584492
Both are good for you.

>> No.15587769

>>15585746
Trans flats are aktually healthier for you because 41% of them spontaneously degrade

>> No.15587786

>>15585485
ghee isnt the same as clarified butter theres a different flavour from a different process

>> No.15588005

>>15584492
Butter; it has some protein.
If you're a girl or you somehow otherwise manage to hit 1g of protein per pound you weigh, then olive oil.

>> No.15589332

>>15584492
Objectively, high-quality olive oil. But in moderation high-quality butter isn't exactly bad for you. Especially if eaten with roasted vegetables.

Low quality olive oil and butter are both bad for you. Shit olive oil is usually a blend of canola and soybean oil with very little actual olive and cheap butter is watery, flavorless and lacking the nutrients that come from good milk.

>> No.15589358

Oil, DUH!

>> No.15589377

>>15584492
Butter has less calories so I'd use it

>> No.15589630

Animal fats

>> No.15589829

Generally speaking, solid fats are less healthy due to hydrogenation.

>> No.15589840

>>15585859
It has a higher smokepoint than suunflower oil.

>> No.15589844

>>15584492
Oil. Check out studies some time. Protip: couple of shit studies don't overturn the tens and hundreds of actual good ones.

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15590531

>>15589844

>> No.15590536

>>15584492
Saturated fats are the most healthy for you, so butter.

>> No.15590538

>>15584492
>eat a block of butter
>drink a bottle of melted butter
sounds equally bad

>> No.15590548
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15590548

>>15589840
>he smokes his oil instead of drinking it

>> No.15590959

>>15589840
>>15585859
>>15585849
>>15585833
olive oil =/= extra virgin olive oil

>> No.15590999

I bought ghee this weekend. It doesn't seem to taste or smell very good, and it doesn't say I have to refrigerate it, which I'm dubious of. I'll probably go back to butter for most stuff and olive oil for everything else.

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15591027

How about this shit I found at walmart? They had pig and duck next to it but it's expensive as fuck so I just went with beef.

>> No.15591045

>>15591027
don't eat it i pooped in it

>> No.15591049

>>15591027
Literally the most un healthy shit you could cook in. Th FDA recommends vegetable oil or canola oil because they are the best for you.

>> No.15591052

>>15584492
Why not both when used correctly?

>> No.15591071

>>15591049
>vegetable oil
You mean soybean? Do remember that the FDA recieves donation bribes from various companies to push narratives.

>> No.15591116

>>15591049
This is bait

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15591127

>>15591049
>trusting the FDA

>> No.15591144

>>15591045
Damn, I was really looking forward to trying it. Thanks for the heads-up.
>>15591049
>fats are bad for you
Sure.

>> No.15591156

>>15584492
Butter, go full fat or go home.

>> No.15591356

>>15591071
>>15591116
>>15591127
>>15591144
Actual schizos, please take your meds. There is no conspiracy by food lobbyist to make you eat more grains and soybeans. Meat us unhealthy. Whole grains and vegetables should be the foundation of your diet.

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>>15591356
>Meat us unhealthy.

>> No.15591378

>>15591356
>grains should be the foundation of your diet
8/10. Almost convinced me you were serious.

>> No.15591867

>>15585442
Ghee, it sure is boring around here

>> No.15591879

>>15585833
>which is healthier?
>DAH SMOOOOK POINT!!1!
dumbass.
>what's your favorite color?
>MOUNTAINS AREN'T ORGANISMS

>> No.15591902

>>15591867
I've tried ghee and I couldn't stand it, horrible flavor. It wasn't some adulterated crap either, it was the real McCoy and it was just unpalatable. Give me butter or extra virgin olive oil any day.

>> No.15592023

>>15585746
animal trans fats are good, its hydrogenated oils that are poison

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>>15591052
My god, finally somebody with some fucking sense! It seems like half of /ck/ gets their nutritional info from realalternativehealthnewstoday.biz-type cash grabs and Joe Rogan and thinks that they'll cancel out their obesity and alcohol abuse and live forever if they subsist entirely on butter-soaked steak and eggs.

>> No.15593008

>>15584492
do americans really like arbequina ?

>> No.15593084

>>15584492
current research suggests that one should replace butter with a better oil or another better fat than butter if one consumes butter
also, neither should be heated as heating lipids produces HNE which observably damages blood vessels
neither is generally necessary for health

>> No.15593500

>>15591356
>There is no conspiracy by food lobbyist to make you eat more grains
There literally is. It's cheaper to produce which is why they want people eating it. Did you know the american heart association was founded to promote EVOO?

>> No.15593547

>>15593500
There's no institution that lobbies for the entire food industry; dairy workers produce pro-dairy propaganda, ranchers produce pro-beef propaganda, etc.

>> No.15593559

>>15584492
It depends on how the cow, that the butter came from, was raised.

>> No.15593560

>>15593547
Where is all this pro-dairy, pro-beef propaganda? All I ever see are articles about how dairy clogs your arteries and beef makes you a nazi

>> No.15593613

>>15593560
On fit.
GOMAD and 1kg beef mince every day.

>> No.15593638

>>15591356
>"Whole grains and vegetables should be the foundation of your diet."
>a thread about cooking fats

yeah this was bait right?

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15593729

>>15593560
>All I ever see are articles about how dairy clogs your arteries and beef makes you a nazi
Maybe you should spend less time consuming outrage porn on twitter and 4chan then, you absolute mong.
>https://www.opensecrets.org/industries/lobbying.php?ind=A04
>https://www.opensecrets.org/industries/lobbying.php?ind=G2300
>https://www.statista.com/statistics/470429/dairy-products-industry-ad-spend-usa/
>https://web.archive.org/web/20160107214942/http://www.nodpa.com/checkoff_2008%20report%20on%20check%20off%20programs.pdf
etc.
And this doesn't even cover the bunk "research" these industries (and every food industry) churns out.

>> No.15593761

>>15593729
Doesn't dismiss my point at all. Anyway, remember that the mongols ate nothing but meat and dairy and they conquered and raped almost the entirety of asia

>> No.15593933

>>15593761
>Doesn't dismiss my point at all.
You asked where the pro-dairy, pro-beef propaganda is. These industries spend millions trying to convince consoomers like you that their products are healthy, and you took the bait so you could feel better about shoving Big Macs into your hamhole.
>Anyway, remember that the mongols ate nothing but meat and dairy and they conquered and raped almost the entirety of asia
And the majority of Europeans ate nothing but grain-based sloppa and they conquered the entire world. Though your premise isn't even correct:
>"Human diet and land use in the time of the Khans—Archaeobotanical research in the capital of the Mongolian Empire, Qara Qorum, Mongolia"
>"An investigation into diet and economy in ancient Mongolia through multiple biomolecular datasets" (can't link b/c 4chan thinks it's spam)
Their pastoral diet was supplemented with plants. But even then,
>"“Dietary Decadence and Dynastic Decline in the Mongol Empire”
they had serious issues with fertility and poor life expectancy.

>> No.15594203

>>15590959
>using a damaged goods whore olive oil instead of pure extra virgin olive oil.

>> No.15594295

>>15593933
Evidently it doesn't work since all we ever see is how cheese will kill you and steak is for nazis
>And the majority of Europeans ate nothing but grain-based sloppa
Yeah, the peasants. Do you unironically think the soliders were eating that garbage?

>> No.15594306

>>15585485
>five syllables versus one
Gee I wonder why

>> No.15594387

>>15593933
>grain-based sloppa
Boatloads of cheese, hence lactose tolerance.

>> No.15594398

>>15584492
Lard > Tallow > Ghee > Butter > Everything else

>> No.15594411

>>15584505
this. Both a fats and should be used sparingly.

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15594438

>>15594295
>we
i.e. NEETs on 4chan and le epic bacon xD diet fad followers on leddit
It's the only thing *you* see because you spend all of your time in places where you can circlejerk over all of the imaginary evil people calling beef-eaters nazis. In reality, the meat and dairy industries are extremely influential and objectively spend millions on consumer-facing propaganda just like every other large ag industry. Jesus Christ you are stupid
>Do you unironically think the soliders were eating that garbage?
Yes you absolute retard; do you actually believe that rank-and-file soldiers were treated to expensive food?

>> No.15594468

>>15594438
Funny how medieval kings and napoleon accomplished literally nothing. They just jerked themselves off over muh throne and muh fancy cooking. All their sovereignty was previously established by the romans, it was handed to them. I'd like to see an account of what roman soldiers ate. And, there is literally nothing you could show me to convince me to abandon the health benefits of dairy and red meat

>> No.15594528

>And, there is literally nothing you could show me to convince me to abandon the health benefits of dairy and red meat
I don't mean to butt in, but that sounds like an indicator of mental illness or extreme stupidity.
If one cared about health and were shown evidence of the contrary, why would one not abandon their position?
Or is it hyperbole?

>> No.15594546

>>15594528
Considering milk is one of the foods promised by God upon arrival in the Promised Land, I don't see how it could be bad

>> No.15594551

>>15594528
And yes it's hyperbole. I'm >>15594546 and also the person you quoted. My point is that the bs the other guy is posting isn't going to convince me and neither are his "academic studies"

>> No.15594555

>>15594468
>I'd like to see an account of what roman soldiers ate.
A standard healthy med diet with regional variations depending on where they were stationed. Grain-based, a significant contribution from seafood and olive oil, around 63g/day red meat on average:
>https://www.repozytorium.uni.wroc.pl/Content/119367/PDF/Agnieszka%20Tomas,%20WHAT%E2%80%99S%20FOR%20DINNER%20TODAY.pdf
>And, there is literally nothing you could show me to convince me to abandon the health benefits of dairy and red meat
I can tell that you care more about your feelings than the facts, yes.

>> No.15594564

>>15594555
So plenty of seafood plus a pound of red meat a week. Almost exactly the same as mine. My point stands
>I can tell that you care more about your feelings than the facts, yes.
See the post above yours

>> No.15594578

>>15594546
God isn't real and even if he was he also invented unhealthy foods

>> No.15594612

>>15594564
>So plenty of seafood plus a pound of red meat a week. Almost exactly the same as mine. My point stands
Why are you shilling so hard for the meat industry if you're ostensibly eating a well-rounded diet?

>> No.15594622

>>15594612
Huh?

>> No.15594636

>>15594622
You were insinuating that the meat and dairy industries are good boys who don't spend millions pushing out propaganda to mislead consumers into believing that they are healthier than they really are.

>> No.15594640

>>15594636
I didn't think I was implying that but apologies if that's how it came across

>> No.15594651

>>15594636
>spend millions pushing out propaganda to mislead consumers into believing that they are healthier than they really are.

literally every industry does this

>> No.15594659

>>15594651
Not the vegetable and grain ones, obviously.

>> No.15594672

>>15594651
That was the initial point.

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>>15584492
comparing triglycerides for health is like debating which crackpipe u use to smoke crack is healthier

>> No.15594691

>>15591356
meat is based and grains are cringe, simple as

>> No.15594725

>>15584492
Bacon grease

>> No.15595778

>>15584492
Lard

>> No.15595828

>>15590531
>I take my knowledge from bro-science youtube videos
lol ok

>> No.15595841

>>15595828
You know studies can be fudged and are often funded by the corporation looking to profit from the product. If you looked right now, you could find studies saying certain foods are good for you and bad for you. Like wine, for "muh oxidants" but you're drinking alcohol which creates free radicals.