/ck/ - Food & Cooking

[Anonymous No.15444893]

Which country has the best table manners?

[Anonymous No.15444898]

>>15444893
>table manners
autism

[Anonymous No.15444902]

India

[Anonymous No.15444912]

>>15444902
they have table manners, they are just different from "western" table manners.

[Anonymous No.15444916]

>>15444912
I wasn't being sarcastic though. I really like their food and eating culture.

[Anonymous No.15444917]

>>15444893
English

[Anonymous No.15444945]

>>15444916
Agreed. Unironically think eating more than just pizza with my hands would be cool

[Anonymous No.15444956]

>>15444893
continential style for me please

[Anonymous No.15444958]

>>15444956
I sometimes do this to confuse my American friends (I'm also American) they think I'm so crazy sometimes

[Anonymous No.15444964]

>>15444893
China

[Anonymous No.15444965]

>>15444956
>>15444958
I always thought this was the normal way to eat but it seems there's also an American way.

Weird.

[Anonymous No.15444978]

>>15444965
>I always thought this was the normal way to eat but it seems there's also an American way.

I keep discovering new versions of this. For every normal, logical, rational behaviour/convention, there is a retarded and idiotic american counterpart.

[Anonymous No.15444981]

>>15444893
Japanese or Continental are both extremely prim and autistic, everything else is pretty reasonable basic etiquette.

[Anonymous No.15444982]

>>15444945
unironically, a very, staggeringly large number of humans around the globe eat foods with their hands that are commonly eaten with utensils in other countries in question - sort of reverses the question in turn. utensils just cost resources, money, time, and unnecessary effort I think.

[Anonymous No.15444983]

>>15444956
You mean normal.

[Anonymous No.15444985]

>>15444982
Tools and utensils separate humans from animals.

[Anonymous No.15444988]

>>15444978
I'm american and lefty and I've always thought right handed people were just retarded in general but my dad told me that in WW2 there were some POWs that escaped and one got caught because he switched hands while eating. I might just be remembering a steve mcqueen movie though I don't know

[Anonymous No.15444989]

>>15444956
Im incontinent

[Anonymous No.15444996]

>>15444989
I'm a snake

[Anonymous No.15444999]

>>15444985
they also separate us from the devil. did you know the queen banned forks? you had to sneak your own fork into meals

[Anonymous No.15445000]

>>15444985
Utensils are unnecessary for 90% of food. Only situations I can think of where utensils are an absolute necessity are chunky soups/stews where you want to eat the meat together with the broth, or something like ice cream/mousse.

[Anonymous No.15445001]

>>15444985
>* Richelieu was a stickler for table etiquette. The story goes that he once exposed an imposter pretending to be a nobleman by observing the uncouth way he dealt with a plate of olives, but it was the use of knives at dinner that particularly irked him. The practice of reaching across the table, stabbing things with a knife and raising them to the mouth was one thing, but the postprandial habit of picking one's teeth with a knifepoint finally caused Richelieu to snap. According to a 1975 exhibition catalogue from New York's Metropolitan Museum of Art, "even as distinguished a guest as Chancellor Séguier" was prone to doing it. Richelieu wanted it stamped out.

there was a point in time when you had nothing but a dull knife and a spoon to eat with, and for everything else you had to use your hand

[Anonymous No.15445002]

>>15444999
>double trips
Checked. What am I looking at here? Your claim sounds like another brainlet "DURR IT WAS ILLEGUL 4 PESANTZ 2 OWN SWORDZ!" historical take, what are you referencing?

[Anonymous No.15445004]

Germany of course.

[Anonymous No.15445005]

>>15444996
You leave American table etiquette out of this.

[Anonymous No.15445006]

>>15445002
whoops I meant the church

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fork#History
>The fork's adoption in northern Europe was slower. Its use was first described in English by Thomas Coryat in a volume of writings on his Italian travels (1611), but for many years it was viewed as an unmanly Italian affectation.[13] Some writers of the Roman Catholic Church expressly disapproved of its use; St. Peter Damian seeing it as "excessive delicacy".[9] It was not until the 18th century that the fork became commonly used in Great Britain,[14] although some sources say that forks were common in France, England and Sweden already by the early 17th century.[15][16]

[Anonymous No.15445014]

Germans seem to know what's up
>The curved fork used in most parts of the world today was developed in Germany in the mid 18th century while the standard four-tine design became current in the early 19th century. The fork was important in Germany because they believed that eating with the fingers was rude and disrespectful. The fork led to family dinners and sit-down meals, which are important features of German culture

check out this spaghetti fork. I wish I could see it in action

[Anonymous No.15445021]

>>15445006
I see no mention of forks being banned anywhere. The Church was right about it being unnecessary, by the way. From their point of view, it was a gay and unnecessary fad that strayed from traditional table etiquette.

[Anonymous No.15445030]

>>15445021
I guess it looks like they only denounced their use at best. it was proper to bring your own dinnerware though
>By the 14th century the table fork had become commonplace in Italy, and by 1600 was almost universal among the merchant and upper classes. It was proper for a guest to arrive with his own fork and spoon enclosed in a box called a cadena; this usage was introduced to the French court with Catherine de' Medici's entourage

https://books.google.com/books?id=bcaXzXPP8ooC&pg=PA43&ved=2ahUKEwia6oOvq6_uAhWGZM0KHfm5Cf8Q6AEwDnoECBEQAg#v=onepage&q&f=false

[Anonymous No.15445053]

>>15445030
>Medici
Rothschilds of the Italian renaissance. No wonder they took off lol

[Anonymous No.15445057]

>>15445006
Cool 400+ year old reference bro.
This is relevant how?

[Anonymous No.15445104]

>>15445057
Shut the fuck up faggot, culinary history is cool, especially medieval and enlightenment/colonial cuisine. Utensils and cookware are part of that. Learn something for once, you fucking ignoramus.

[Anonymous No.15445291]

>>15444958
How do americans eat?

[Anonymous No.15445295]

>>15445291
>How do americans eat?

[Anonymous No.15445299]

>>15445295

[Anonymous No.15445302]

>>15445001
Everything eaten by hand was subject to napkin etiquette - there are very many rules regarding what to do.

Same deal with most current eaten by hand cultures.

>>15444893
As for OP's question, I'd say I've seen the highest general level of table manners in Austria and England, but it's always pot luck with the plebs.

US and Spain are the worst from my experiences.

[Anonymous No.15445303]

>>15445291

[Anonymous No.15445305]

>>15444945
I remember back in college this Saudi dude just came in for the semester so to be nice me and my friends went and found a shawarma joint to grab lunch with him at (Kosher is Halal apparently) and he ended up getting falafel over rice. The problem is the Shawarma joint forgot to give him utensils. We offered to grab some and he said fuck it I ate like this back home and formed his hand into a conical shovel formation and started shoveling saucy falafel rice into his face at mach speed.
It was quite a larf.

[Anonymous No.15445306]

>>15445295
And after cutting they need to switch hand in order to use the fork

[Anonymous No.15445353]

>>15445305
Based Saudi

[Anonymous No.15445359]

Americans eat the way my mum would yell at me for eating when I was little. We weren't even posh I grew up in cattle country in rural NSW Australia.

[Anonymous No.15445405]

>>15444958
I've always eaten this way, but I'm left handed

[Anonymous No.15445439]

>>15445295
>>15445303
no seriously, how do they do it

[Anonymous No.15445442]

>>15445306

[Anonymous No.15445921]

>>15445439
That is seriously how we do it, all though that image is exaggerating a bit. You just switch the utensils between your two hands so that your dominant hand always holds the one for what you're doing. The pic rel is some guy cutting like a toddler though.

[Anonymous No.15447558]

>>15445921
do americans really lack the fine motoric skills to lift a fork up to their mouth with their non-dominant hand?

[Anonymous No.15447677]

>>15445439
No one except actual boomers actually does the hand-switching thing every bite. Normally we just do it the normal way, though I have noticed a lot of people will cut up the entire meal first, then put the knife down and eat everything with the fork in their right hand, which seems stupid since it lets it get cold faster

[Anonymous No.15448531]

>>15445014
Dude they used forks 200 years before that. Stop trying to make Germany happen

[Anonymous No.15448556]

>>15444985
>>15444999
>>15445295
>>15445303
150 years ago the majority of people in the west used knives to eat everything that wasn't soup. And sometimes even the soup.

Forks were invented solely for spaghetti and were frowned on in high society for some time before being adopted by them and later others. They didn't become common in America until 50 years later than Europe.

It then took time for them to use forks for shit that wasn't pasta.

The fancy ass European aristocrats who weren't Italian still savagely stabbed at all their food until only relatively recently.

[Anonymous No.15448570]

>>15447558
A lot of Americans aren't taught etiquette, so it's not practiced. It was mind-blowing to me as a kid growing up here, watching people all through the country straight fisting a fork and pen the same as a toddler.

[Anonymous No.15448633]

>>15448570
My parents taught it to me as a young child. But as family dinners devolved into eating in separate places or at different times, or into watching TV while eating, it became less and less important. To the point that I didn't even think to include it in my mental checklist of "things my parents taught me that I need to remember to teach as a parent as well". Hopefully I don't forget it now.

[Anonymous No.15449068]

>>15444893
It certainly isn't America. That is, unless they're promised black on white porn and Velveeta.

[Anonymous No.15449427]

>>15444893
Ethiopia

[Anonymous No.15449585]

>>15444893
Japan?

[Anonymous No.15449727]

>>15444893
Luxemburg

[Anonymous No.15449737]

>>15444893
Sure as fuck isn't america

[Anonymous No.15449744]

Italians, they invented the spoon/knife.

[Anonymous No.15450336]

Upper class British people especially old money.

[Anonymous No.15450566]

>>15444893
>all these fuckers showing Euros that we eat like my grandpa did when he was 6 years into dementia

Doing God's work boys

[Anonymous No.15450595]

>>15444893
Compare the amount of napkins you get with your food at fast food place in America and Europe.

In Europe, you get one or maybe two. In the US, you get 4-6, because you are expected to mash it all over your face and hands like a toddler.