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15435297 No.15435297 [Reply] [Original]

Do you track calories in food you eat, /ck/? How much do you typically eat?

>> No.15435311

hmm lately ive been eating very little throughout the day but then i binge on high calorie food at night

>> No.15435312

>>15435297
That image looks so gay, do people really live like that?

>> No.15435318

counting calories is a mental illness

>> No.15435320

>>15435297
where did the second chocolate bar come from
why didnt he track it
i guess that takes up most of the extra cal
whats the point of that picture

>> No.15435322

>>15435297
I don't track calories holy shit what kind of faggotry is this

>> No.15435324

>>15435297
I prep all my food on Sunday. I eat 3000-4000 of clean calories a day. I miss eating on a whim but it’s much healthier this way and gives my body what it needs for my training.

>> No.15435328

>>15435318
nah, ketofags are the true mentilly ill

>> No.15435332

>>15435297
no ive never counted calories in my life, im a grown man not a fucking instagram selfie bitch or dudebro /fit/fag with mealprep

its not hard to eat a balanced diet and stay healthy/fit with exercise, counting calories is dumb as fuck unless you're literally so fucking dumb you have absolutely no idea what a balanced diet is or a general idea of your food intake

>> No.15435333

>>15435297
How the fuck do you eat so much in a day

>> No.15435335

>>15435312
no anon, its a detailed editorial pic meant to explain how some people on diets fail to count calories correctly

>> No.15435338

>>15435324
>food prep
back to >>>/fit/ mouthbreather

>> No.15435340

>>15435324
Do you cry if you have an extra peanut butter spoon out of the jar or are you a normal human being?

>> No.15435354

>>15435340
im guessing they have absolutely no self control unless they're told what to do
so if they have an extra spoon of peanut butter that probably snowballs into 3 tubs of icecream and a bucket of fried chicken or some garbage

>> No.15435356

>>15435335
>Oh nooooooo I ate an extra spoon of peanut butter and had some vinegar/salad dressing with my salad, now I have to stay three more hours on the gym and cry in the bathroom to burn those 20 more calories i ate, how can this happen to me?

>> No.15435360

>>15435354
That makes more sense

>> No.15435363

>>15435335
>diets
dumbest shit ever, I grew up around overweight family always been skinny myself and now almost in my 30s still kept skinny

the whole mindset of "dieting" is fucking retarded, if you want to lose weight change your lifestyle don't try and diet for a fortnight and expect the world to change

>> No.15435378

>>15435363
changing your lifestyle means diet you dumby

>> No.15435385

>>15435297
What a retarded graphic. Calories is almost a completely meaningless metric to begin with, and even further than that they’re getting those 400 calories from high fat things like butter and cream.

>> No.15435392

>>15435297
My TDEE is really low so when I'm trying to lose weight counting is a necessity. Otherwise I don't

>> No.15435400

>>15435297
I actually have always done a great job of tracking my calories. I'm sure that I'm not perfect but I've always counted things like the butter/oil that I cook something in, etc. Never understood why people wouldn't do that.

Typically I'm usually around 2200-2600 calories per day. I used to be a lot better at sticking around 2000 though.

>> No.15435406

>>15435378
yes "diet" not "dieting"

changing your lifestyle doesn't mean following a diet guideline for a few weeks it means changing your food diet permanently

>> No.15435408

>>15435320
I know right? And a second spoon of peanut butter? I get the salad dressing and the cooking butter since you might easily overlook the calories they add, but peanut butter, chocolate, sour cream? You're only cheating yourself if you decide not to count those.

>> No.15435413

>>15435378
The point anon is making is that eating a tbsp less of peanut butter isnt going to cut it. That’s not a “diet,” that’s the same as fat fucks who get Diet Pepsi with their cheeseburger and fries. “I had half the amount of sour cream on my taco for lunch, that means I can have an extra big bowl of ice cream after dinner!”

>> No.15435419

>>15435406
Changing your diet permanently is still dieting.
The term you are looking for is "crash dieting", not dieting in general.

>> No.15435426

>>15435363
>ive never had to diet so fuck dieting

>> No.15435429

whoops accidentally ate a chocolate bar while counting carbs

>> No.15435436

>>15435419
"dieting" is a temporary change
"diet" is what you eat

there's a difference

>> No.15435443

>>15435426
yes because I'm not a dumb fat fuck, I have fat genes and still have remained fit probably because I grew up around such fat slobby people who disregarded exercise and balanced diets it made me notice how important these things are

the reason I've never had to go on a diet is because I don't eat like an amerilard and sit around on my fat ass all day

>> No.15435446

>>15435297
Why count calories if you're not bodybuilding? It's pretty easy to stop eating like a fat fuck, just stop eating so much

>> No.15435452
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>>15435297
I have to eat ALL THAT on the right just to start gaining some weight?

>> No.15435459

>>15435436
Dieting and then stopping and getting fat again is crash dieting.
Limiting your intake from a previous higher level is dieting, even permanently.

>> No.15435465
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>>15435297
I'm cutting right now so in a deficit. I've been eating 980kcal max every day since August. I don't get that hungry even at a deep deficit though because I eat a ton of protein and low calorie veggies, I even often pass out on the couch after dinner from food comas after stuffing myself, but never going over 980 calories.

>> No.15435469

>>15435408
I'm assuming that it's not that you literally got an extra measuring spoon of PB and for some reason didn't count it, it's that you scooped some extra peanut butter out of the jar but didn't think to consider that as part of your calories. Same with just putting some sour cream on the potato (now the extra chocolate bar... c'mon). People do it all the time, it's why a lot of people are "dieting" but don't lose weight, they're way underestimating how many calories they're eating.

I'm helping my aunt lose weight and this was a big issue with her. She said she was watching her calories, eating healthy, but the weight was barely coming off. I was over her house to help with a project and and saw that she was doing little things like eating a handful of potato wedges after they were done cooking but before she plated them, not tracking dressings/sauces/condiments because she figured they were low enough, not counting oil she used in cooking, eating a spoonful of peanut butter while making a PB sandwich, etc. It's not necessarily huge amounts of calories (50 here, 100 there, etc) but it builds up during the day to where she should have been losing 1-2 lbs a week and was instead losing 1 lb every other week or so.

>> No.15435480

>>15435452
just use more butter/oil/cheese/milk in every dish you make. a spoonful of oil has 120 calories, an extra spoon already brings up whatever you're eating to 240.

>> No.15435493

>>15435469
Bingo. I have this same problem with my mom. I go so far as to track her calories for her (I make all of our meals). Then all of the time I'll find a can of BBQ Pringles or something with a bunch out of them (and no one else is ever around to eat them) gone from the can. I ask her why she didn't mention that she ate them and that I'd have tracked them, but it's always "Oh uh, I forgot, I wasn't thinking about it". Well shit, if you eat like a dozen Pringles that's about 150 calories right there.

>> No.15435495

Maybe for athletes who need to be at exact weights/bf% requirements, but for your average overweight person, a better model would just be learning to eat healthy food that will keep them fit.

Nobody wants to count calories forever, and when you lose the weight and want to keep it off, are you going to keep counting everyday?

>> No.15435502

>>15435452
How can anybody afford to buy that much food? I'm happy with the breakfast and lunch.

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>>15435320
>where did the second chocolate bar come from

>> No.15435518

>>15435318
Post body

>> No.15435521

>>15435502
Eggs aren't expensive.
A cucumber isn't expensive.
A bell pepper isn't expensive.
A potato isn't expensive.

>> No.15435528

>>15435443
you sound like a LARPing fatass

>> No.15435534

>>15435333
>>15435452
Why are people even on a cooking imageboard if they don't like eating too? 2k calories is barely enough to sustain a sedentary male without much muscle mass. I started autistically counting calories as I could literally eat all day and got fat as a result, Iost 100 lbs in total. Pic related makes me laugh because you don't simply "forget" to count your second chocolate bar, you're lying to yourself, like most people going on a diet.

>> No.15435541

>>15435356
>20 more calories
The peanut butter alone would be 80-100 calories. Those six extra chins may have obscured your view.

>> No.15435550

>>15435534
There's a brainwashed coven of actual anorexics and bulimics on 4chan. Normally they stick to /fa/ but they're around.

>> No.15435554

>>15435534
Wrong way around, anon. I'm on a cooking board BECAUSE I fucking hate cooking and eating to the point I'm underweight af. I came here to figure out how tf to fix that. Well, I like cooking nowadays, but I still struggle to eat three meals.
>I started autistically counting calories as I could literally eat all day and got fat as a result
Didn't work for me

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>>15435550
mfw I have to ask the thinspo thread for advice finding clothes which fit me because I'm not even trying to be a skeletonlet, this is just how I am naturally
everything's like a goddamn sailcloth hanging off my body

>> No.15435567

>>15435541
fatties have no idea how many calories food has and have zero clue what they're actually eating. a tablespoon of peanut butter is 100 calories, a banana is 100 calories (120 if it's a big banana), and a whole avocado has 20 more calories than a hershey's chocolate bar. shiiiet

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>>15435516
How?! Wtf is this real?!!

>> No.15435590

Keep a food journal just to put your consumption in perspective. I don't necessarily count (loosely estimate) calories. It's simply useful to see that you mindlessly ate a bunch of bullshit you didn't need to. You can claim to be completely in control of your intake but I guarantee you are rounding up and down all the time. And if you are fat, your health is suffering due to your ignorance.

>> No.15435591

>>15435521
>A bell pepper isn't expensive
That's the only one I will differ with you

>> No.15435596

>>15435318
Better than being fat.
Eventually you should be able to have a good idea of how much you're eating without counting

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>>15435518
Hey you literal homo, if you say "post body" you should actually post body. You're probably some dysmorphic faggot that thinks pic related is DYEL

>> No.15435606

>>15435591
Buy them in season, donut.
If you're really poor then get the ones on the discount shelf that are starting to look wilted.

>> No.15435616

>>15435541
I must be underweight (by my height) but if it makes you happy thinking Im fat and you are some godly being that counts calories go ahead. I stand by my words
>Oh nooo I have an extra peanut butter spoon I'm going to die and become a fat fuck if I don't track every exact calorie intake I have not even the air i inhale must be counted might jesus forgive me for having some salad dressing

>> No.15435634

>>15435554
I'm the anon you replied to, not giving you advice here, you probably picked up a lot of that by yourself, browsing /ck/. Just telling you how intrigued I am by the issues you face, learning how to cook because you hate to eat never really occured to me, we really are complete opposites in that matter. Shows how thin people's brains are wired differently from those of fat people. And even with a BMI of 21, I will always consider myself a fat person in mind, as eating lots has given me a feeling of warmth and safety ever since. That will probably never change either, one can only actively suppress those feelings or start seeking them elsewhere.

>> No.15435646

I don't track calories at all because my job keeps me physically fit. I eat fast food every single day and never exercise on my days off.

>> No.15435655

Still looks better than what I'm currently eating.

>> No.15435672

>>15435646
My buddy used to run around for his job all day, now he works at a call center and gained 15 pounds. Like the adult scenario of eating whatever you want in HS because you don't have a car so you walk everywhere and have after school sports, then graduating and eating the same. His body required less energy but still had the same appetite that he did when he was running everywhere.

>> No.15435709

Wow lots of fatty cope in here. >>15435340
Nah. I don’t even count my calories. I know I’m eating between 3000-4000 calories a day though. Yesterday for example, I had meatloaf and mashed potatoes that weren’t prepped. I’m still losing weight though because I run so much.

>> No.15435745

>>15435338
Go fuck yourself faggot. That board is gay as fuck

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>>15435586
i reeanacted
the chocolate gets removed at the cut, you see that some of the cubes are smaller

>> No.15435761

>>15435747
I just can't believe it, witchcraft anybody capable of ripping off chocolate companies like this must be hanged who knows what other sorcery they use

>> No.15435767

>>15435761
no it doesnt make more chocolate...

>> No.15435771

>>15435709
I wasn't trying to came off rude with that so sorry man.
But I'm amazed how quickly you people came with the "fat ass cope" strawman when someone differs with what you say

>> No.15435778

>>15435767
What are you saying don't you see that gif? Is like an extra piece of chocolate every time, if you do it long enough it creates a new chocolate bar

>> No.15435788

>>15435778
no it's fake look at the image i posted
some of the cubes became smaller!

>> No.15435794

>>15435318

Found the HAES advocate topkek.

>> No.15435797

Don't drink soda. Don't eat candy or ice cream. Follow that diet and obesity drops 50%.

>> No.15435802

>>15435778
By god he's right

>> No.15435816

>>15435493
I think part of it is the perception of something being "just a snack" or "just a little" not really mattering. But like you said, that's about 150 calories... not a lot on its own.. but if you do that every day, or even twice a day, you're impeding your progress.

I've also noticed that my aunt's generation thinks more about the vague idea of what's healthy rather than nutritional breakdown. She was buying these bags of salted nut mixes that were 400 calories each, and that was a "healthy snack" in between meals.

>> No.15435823

>>15435745
exactly, don’t come queering up ck with your muscle pictures

>> No.15435828

>>15435747
>>15435767
>>15435788
Don't listen to this liar, he doesn't want you to know about the unlimited chocolate hack

>> No.15435840

>>15435297
Tracking calories? I'm not a twink

>> No.15435847

>>15435816
I've noticed that with older people too, my mom included. They say they don't eat a lot, and maybe that not eating enough is the reason they're fat (HA!). Well sometimes they're half right. If they laid out everything they ate in a day it might visually look like a small amount of food and might not weigh out much, but density or how much space the food takes up doesn't matter. What matters is how many calories everything has.

Yeah you might have only eaten 8 saltine crackers and a side of black coffee for breakfast but 8 saltine crackers has 300 calories (5 eggs has the same amount of calories). And then when they get to lunch they think back to how "little" they had for breakfast so they indulge in an extra helping or extra trimmings at lunch time. So they basically had enough calories for breakfast to consist of a full meal, plus lunch and all the extras they justify giving to themselves. And that's how you get fat and gain 10lbs every year.

>> No.15435856

I'm in the process of losing weight right now, so I'm limiting to 1,200 calories or 1,500 if I do a workout. I've been obese for years and I've basically found out that if my ass doesn't track calories meticulously, I end up slowly overeating until I just say "eh fuck it" and start the cycle of lose/gain/lose all over again.

>> No.15435860

>>15435297
there's no fucking way all of the food pictured in that photo is 1400 calories

>> No.15435878

>>15435840
Are you a cute bear? UwU

>> No.15435888

>>15435860

2 HB Egg: 150 cal
2 Slices bacon: 80 cal
Bell Pepper: 30 cal

Apple: 95 cal
2 Tbsp peanut butter: 180 cal
Greek Chicken Salad: 250 cal

Steak: 600 cal (avg)
Baked Potato: 160 cal

That alone is 1,545 cal from a simple Google search and I rounded down a bit; its entirely plausible that it has that many calories.

>> No.15435891

>>15435860
>two hard boiled eggs (80 cals per = 160)
>bell pepper strips (around 30)
>three strips? (100 apiece = 300)

>chicken portion (around 150; probably cooked in come oil = 250ish)
>salad (150ish)
>apple (80)
>peanut butter (100)

>green beans (25ish)
>steak (400ish)
>tomatoes (25)
>potato (150)
>chocolate (200)
>berries (50)

I have it at about 1920.

>> No.15435893

>>15435297
Yeah I weigh everything, even my spinach and broccoli. Shredded as fuck too, only way to do it.

>> No.15435896

>>15435860
Eh, it seems like it can't be but with some general estimates it adds up.

2 eggs: 140 calories
2, maybe 2 and a half bacon slices: 100 calories
Coffee: 5
1 orange bell pepper: 25

1 chicken breast: 200 calories
Misc vegetables: 30 calories
Apple: 90 calories
Looks like about 2 tbsp peanut butter: 180 calories

Steak: 250 calories
Large baked potato: 250 calories
Chocolate bar: 100 calories
Cup of berries: 65

>> No.15435897

>>15435888
You're overestimating the size of the steak pictured.

>>15435891
You're overestimating chocolate and bacon.

>> No.15435898

>>15435888
>>15435891
Comparing the steak to the green beans and potato I think that's a smaller filet mignon, it's probably ~300 calories or so.

>> No.15435907

>>15435860
Breakfast:
>black coffee: 0
>2 eggs: 120kcal
>3 strips of bacon: 139kcal
>1 bell pepper: 30kcal
Total: 289

Lunch:
>veggies: 30kcal
>1 cup of chickpeas: 210kcal
>4.5oz of chicken: 210kcal
>apple: 95kcal
>1 spoonful peanubutter: 100kcal
Total: 645

Dinner:
>4oz steak: 77kcal
>1 cup greenbeans: 30kcal
>3 cherry tomatoes: 6kcal
>1 cup raspberries: 65kcal
>half a dark chocolate bar: 115kcal
>1 large potato: 200kcal
Total: 493

Overall total: 1427kcal

>> No.15435909

>>15435847
I've found that older people don't count alcohol calories at all. A couple of glasses of wine a night can run you 200-300 extra calories easily, and I've seen older people down whole bottles of wine when they're supposed to be dieting. Same with beer, 150-ish per bottle but they completely ignore it.

>> No.15435912

Processed foods are incredibly calorie dense from the sugars added and bloat you from the copious amounts of salt added.

You can legit eat more if you cook and tastefully season all your own veggies and meat.

Calorie counting is only restrictive or annoying when you have to focus on a deficit. Once you get to your goal weight maintenance calories + occasionally working out are sufficient to eat whatever you want, in moderation.

If you just restrict yourself to lose weight then go back to having huge food benders and eating nothing but fast food you’ll just gain it back, then hate it even more when you have to relose weight.

Eat the single cookie, the single slice of pie/cake. Don’t get a large fry, get a small one with your burger. Don’t drink your calories daily.

>> No.15435917

>>15435909
My mom doesn't drink but that too. Gram for gram the most caloric things in order are: Fat, alcohol, carbs, protein. Drinking the second most caloric thing out there on top of regular meals is a one way ticket to lbs town.

>> No.15435932

>>15435909
My dad's an alcoholic and does about 6-8 shots of hard liquor every night. Complains about not being able to lose weight when he's basically tacking on 600-800 calories right there. Completely ignores this when I point it out, will sometimes pour out even more if I mention it.

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>>15435860
Autist coming through. Holy shit them macros tho

>> No.15435983

>>15435975
>those macros
it's beautiful, perfect balance

>> No.15435993

>>15435893
you really don't think with the basic knowledge you have you could use common sense and eat a relative amount without religiously counting out the calories?

>> No.15435997

>>15435322
It's useful when you start dieting if you have a poor sense of the caloric content of what you eat.

>> No.15436001

>>15435932
your dad is a retard lol

>> No.15436017

>>15435993
Professional body builders weigh out everything. Ever macro counts when you're striving for as close to perfect as possible. He might not get fat or could stay pretty fit, but weighing food is common or necessary to get jacked.

>> No.15436020

>>15436001
When it comes to losing weight? Oh yeah. He's one of those people where if you point out any negative eating habit he'll do it harder to spite you, when it just hurts himself. It's an ego problem.

>> No.15436035

~2-2.4 kcal in one meal 20--23
i count carb/pro/fat for everything i've eaten for past ~6y in a latex logbook
calories are moot since excess fat gets used for heat or gets desposited if sufficient insulin present and insufficient fat leads to using fat stores; i've been at 70kg +-1kg for 4-6y

>> No.15436043

>>15435993
Not if you want to reach very low bf %, sure you could but it would be a risk most people who take bodybuilding seriously wouldn’t want to take. Even professional bodybuilders who have been eating and training optimally for 30+ years calorie count. It comes with the territory.

>> No.15436047

>>15435465
Congratulations! You're literally starving to death very slowly.

>> No.15436050

>>15436017
>Professional body builders
yes but i dont think the poster is a professional bodybuilder or athlete where 0.5% bf is going to be the difference between silver or gold

>> No.15436063

>>15435465
Are you taking supplements? I eat 1500cal/day and I still need a multivitamin and sometimes calcium to cover all my bases.

>> No.15436066

>>15436047
Nah man, I have fat preserves. As long as I eat enough protein, nutrients, and electrolytes I won't croak. Just like that guy that ate zero food for a year. He was monitored by doctors and was only given pills to fill his nutrient needs. I don't get the doctors but I'm also not eating nothing either.

>> No.15436069

>>15436063
Powders, supplements, and vitamins.

>> No.15436120

>>15436066
Not that guy, but you do realize that doing this makes your body go on starvation mode and retain as much bodily fat it can for the sake of keeping you alive? Not saying you will die from it, but you are hindering your own progress by doing so.

>> No.15436127

>>15436066
Here's the guy https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Angus_Barbieri%27s_fast
Make you get salt.

>> No.15436138

>>15436120
>starvation mode
It's literally impossible to eat at maintenance or a deficit and gain weight. Starvation mode is a myth used by fat middle-aged women to make themselves feel better about having midnight snacks, it's calories in calories out. I've cut before, you can't get fat unless you eat too much.

>> No.15436146

>>15436066
Don't listen to ideologues and copy-paste, brainless people like those who've replied to you. Just read, and lead by example.
Others should suffer the health consequences of their naivity, stupidity, and superciliousness. offer help and information only when they request it.
Educating people forcefully is a lost cause.

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Which ones would you pick?

>> No.15436179

>>15435297
have been for a while
went from 280 to 190 lbs doing so
intake currently averages around 2900 a day when sedentary which is evidently my maintenance
i could probably get to 180 without atrophying too much muscle if i reduced intake to 2200 for a bit while exercising but jesus christ i feel like i'm starving at that level

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>>15435516

>> No.15436197

>>15436154
>think about those people that spent all that time being miserable and eating nothing but bananas only to gain all that weight back anyway when all they had to do was eat a little less of what they're already like to eat

haha dummies bet there's a lady out there right now eating cabbage soup for lunch

>> No.15436204

>>15436138
>that reading comprehension.
I never said you would get fat, you fool, your body will just retain as much fat as it can and decrease your metabolic rate so that it consumes as little fat as it can to survive in order to make it last as much as possible.

As I said, it is not going to kill you or anything, but it IS hindering your progress by making it much slower than it could be if you did more exercises instead or tried atkins diet for example.

But you know, you do you,

>> No.15436223

>>15435297
only a woman would put butter in the pan to cook bacon lol

>> No.15436235

>>15436066
>I don't get the doctors but I'm also not eating nothing either.
Listen, I'm by no means an expert on this topic, but aren't those two completely different things? Fasting and eating at a deficit I mean. If you're fasting (eating nothing at all), your body will quickly switch to getting energy solely from your fat reserves. Eating at such a high deficit though, your body is still in the mode for getting its energy through normal food, but simply doesn't get enough of it? At least that's what logic would tell me, by my own experience the human body doesn't always work logically though. I wanted to comment on your self-discipline, too, how long is it until you've reached your goal weight?

>> No.15436246

>>15435771
That wasn’t directed towards you

>> No.15436251

>>15436204
It makes sense that my metabolic rate drops if my body is getting smaller, since it's not using as much energy. Don't buy into atkins, they're just protein shakes you use to replace meals. Why replace meals with milkshakes when you can have real food instead?

>>15436146
I've gotten all sorts of advice from family, friends, and coworkers. Questioning my diet because they saw me eating some ice cream but it's true, the results speak for themselves no matter what they say.

>> No.15436257

>>15435297
Nope. I just don't eat between meals, don't drink anything with calories in it, and don't eat dessert. That worked pretty well for me.

>> No.15436262

>>15436050
I’m not a professional bodybuilder but I enjoy the challenge of being extremely low bodyfat and I also enjoy the superiority I feel over fat people and the seeth I cause them when they see my chiseled jaw and abs. Also just because your not competing/professional doesn’t mean you shouldn’t adopt the knowledge of professionals in your chosen sport/hobby. Saying that it’s pointless to count macros/calories like a competitive bodybuilder because I’m not competing is like saying the guy who enjoys running long distance shouldn’t attempt to adopt the training habits of olympians because he will never be one. Wanting to improve isn’t a bad thing.

>> No.15436276

>>15436197
Hey, all they needed to do was also check off the "How to Stay Thin After Losing Fat" booklet.

>> No.15436286

>>15436235
At a deficit your body has no choice but to tap in to fat reserves, whether you're eating a little or nothing at all. And thanks, 980kcal a day takes time to get used to but it's about going in with a strategy. Eat whatever you want but quickly you learn how to eat the most for your caloric buck or go to bed hungry, just so happens that lots of vegetables and protein do just that. I reach my goal mid-march, then I up my calories slowly every week until I hit maintenance.

>> No.15436304

>>15435297
Only dumbfucks don't count those little extras. OMAD + 7000 kcal deficit (based on 99% nutrient tracking) + running my ass off = losing 2.5 lb per week.

If you can't lose weight, you're not trying.

>> No.15436316
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>>15435324
here is some chicken and rice i'm about to eat.. not the best but pretty decent with some sharp cheddar on top

>> No.15436331

>>15436316
Some of the easiest and most nutritious meals are just some kind of meat and vegetable slop that looks like shit but taste great.

>> No.15436358

>>15435312
I was wondering how the fuck you eat 2 hard boiled eggs, what appears to be about a strip of burnt bacon, a bunch of raw orange pepper, and a tablespoon of butter.

>> No.15436402

>>15436251
>Don't buy into atkins, they're just protein shakes you use to replace meals. Why replace meals with milkshakes when you can have real food instead?
Are you retarded or just trolling? Atkins diet has nothing to do with shakes, you fool, it is all about eating meat and eggs while cutting all carbs!

If you can spend 15 days only eating meat and eggs you will start burning fat like a motherfucker, then you can slowly increase your carb consumption by adding vegetables to your meals over the course of the following weeks.

But you know, do whatever, there are many ways to lose weight, does not matter which one you pick. I just mentioned Atkins diet because my brother did it to lose weight and he finally weighted less than me after decades of constant abuse on my part over his weight problems, so I know for a fact this works.

But as I said, you do you.

>> No.15436418

>>15435794
No, it's just that if you're not retarded you can just look at the calories on food before you buy it and tell when you're eating too much naturally. I've met people who would go to a restauraunt and go on phone software to log every ingredient they ate during the meal. Casual approaches to dieting usually work better anyway

>> No.15436423

>>15435893
post body

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>>15436423

>> No.15436446

>>15436402
I thought you were talking about their atkins line, but that diet is called Keto now. Keto works because all the protein you eat fills you up faster and you don't get insulin spikes from the carbs that can leave you hungry. But you don't have to cut out carbs. Keto works for carb addicts, the mf'ers that take a bite of bread or pasta and lose all self control. But ultimately it's because he was in a calorie deficit I guarantee it. 'Grats to your brother tho.

>> No.15436461

>yes
>too much

>>15435318
No, but it leads to something similar.

>> No.15436492

>>15435297
>1 tbsp butter to cook with
cook what? the eggs are boiled, the peppers are raw and you don't add fat to fry bacon
>peanut butter
do americans really just eat peanut butter out of the jar as "dessert"
Oh, and the plates are overcrowded

>> No.15436496

i eat mostly starch, and only weigh my food.

>> No.15436515

>>15436444
kek

>> No.15436536

>>15436446
>but that diet is called Keto now.
Nope, not at all.

Atikins IS a keto diet, but not all keto diets are equivalent to Atkins.

In Atkins you DO need to cut the carbs completely for 2 weeks during phase 1 for the induction effect to kick in. This is what causes your body to burn fat madly withoun't going into starvation mode during your cutting diet due to the calorie deficit.

So yeah, it is not the same as a normal keto diet, although the concepts are very similar, if you go to /fit/ they can teach you more than I can about it.

>> No.15436557
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15436557

>>15436423
Ok here you go

>> No.15436559
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>>15435297
>Do you track calories in food you eat, /ck/?
Yeah.

>How much do you typically eat?
About this much, pic related. Depends if I end up going over or not but I usually don't unless I cook something really fatty like ribs.

>> No.15436568

>>15436557
somehow this is more homo than this pic:>>15436444

>> No.15436569

>>15436568
Cope harder fatty

>> No.15436582

>>15436557
>he doesn't know about image search
you're a guaranteed larping fatty lmao

>> No.15436616

>>15435297
With that little selfcontrol you can never lose weight

>> No.15436632

>>15435297
>1 tbsp butter to cook with
Tracking the tablespoon of butter you cooked your egg in is a form of mania.

>salad dressing + extra PB out of the jar
>dollop of sour cream + extra chocolate bar
These are fair.

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>>15436582
More cope, enjoy my big juicy thighs fagboy

>> No.15436795

>>15435516
i can believe it's the same gif still. it needs an update to hide it better.

>> No.15437111

>>15436559
what app?

>> No.15437124

>>15435297
>counting fat, proteins and fibers in the calories
lmao.

>> No.15437161

>>15436017
You have to both weigh the food and calculate the weight and macros that will be lost when cooking.

>> No.15437172

>>15435297
1 tablespoon of butter is literally nothing. Simply rounding up is good enough. Everything else is clearly them just adding shit assuming you ate it, which is not right at all.

Very easy to count calories, they key is to always round up and you'll end up underweight in no time.

>> No.15437186

>>15436632
You can't simply *forget* you ate an extra chocolate bar. I mean, who the fuck eats a chocolate bar with their meal? I don't even fucking eat strawberries let alone one meal a day. I drank a 60 cal bottle of Kombucha and ate a 400 calorie bag of candy. Like I didn't eat anything else, cook, or add anything. I don't binge eat, so what the fuck is this image saying?

The retard in the image eats 3 meals a day for no good reason, and talks about tracking lmaooooooooooooo

>> No.15437205

>>15436632
There's 100 calories in a tbsp of butter or oil. If you keep dumping more and more into the pan each meal it adds up.

>> No.15437211

>>15436632
>Tracking the tablespoon of butter you cooked your egg in is a form of mania.

There's 102 calories in 1 Tbsp butter. Seems like the calories in salad dressing peanut butter, dollop of sour cream, etc, are around the same amount if not more. So why is it mania to track 102 calories of butter but not mania to track 102 calories of peanut butter?

>> No.15437215

>>15435297
>dollap

it's dollop you infographic retard.
And no, because counting calories is gay.

>> No.15437244

the one on the left even is so much food at every meal i don't believe it's only 1400

>> No.15437313

>>15435586
>How?! Wtf is this real?!!
Nothing is real, this is just another glitch in the matrix.

Wake up!

>> No.15437361

>>15437244
The power of high density veggies. If you imagine it without all the vegetables it's looks like a lot less food. But if you took out the veg you'd actually only be subtracting about 200 calories, not counting the potato because potatoes are one of the highest calorie vegetables.

>> No.15437564

>>15437111
iTrackbites. It has its plusses and minuses but overall I think it's pretty good. I pay for it, but the app is 100% functional even if you never give them money. I don't even remember what the paid features are honestly and the only reason I'm paying now is because I forgot to cancel before the sub renewed.

>> No.15437609

>>15437205
>>15437211
Because I really do think that tracking the oil you cook your egg in is getting granular to the point of obsession and end up not seeing the bigger picture. If you cooked every meal in a skillet and 100% of your cooking oil was absorbed into that food you'd be eating 300 calories more than you would otherwise. Which isn't insignificant but is the least of your worries compared to the food you're frying in it and what you eat through the rest of the day.

Just my opinion though so ymmv.

>> No.15438408

>>15437361
i donno a bacon egg breakfast, chicken lunch AND steak dinner seems like an excessive day

>> No.15438428

>>15438408
>meat bad
>eat the bugs

>> No.15438439

>>15435465
Height gender and activity for context? For you to not starve you have to be like 5'0 and sedentary as fuck

>> No.15438440

>>15435534
I'm on ck because I'm learning to be a house husband

>> No.15438458

>>15436235
>implying your body wont break down liver glycogen then muscle tissue

>> No.15438471

>eggs are boiled

>bacon doesn't need butter to cook

>peppers are raw

what was the "butter to cook with" supposedly even used for?

>deliberately mentioning the steak being grass fed

I get a strong sense the person who wrote this is over 40

>dollap

>> No.15438495

>>15435297
no and until i'm about to throw up

>> No.15438501

>>15435297
Butter to cook what?
The bacon already has its own grease and the peppers can be roasted, cooked with the bacon grease or eaten raw

>> No.15438502 [DELETED] 

>>15435363
Everybody is on a diet. The word means the stuff you eat.

>> No.15438503

>>15435311
Literally me. I don't eat a thing during the day then I have a large meal for dinner and sweet snacks throughout the night that could be fruit, ice cream or chocolate.

>> No.15438509

>>15438439
To break even at a basal metabolic rate of 980 kcal you'd need to be a:

-3' 10" tall male, weighing 80 lbs.
-4' tall female, weighing 110 lbs.

Those are generous weights too and are at the high end of "healthy" BMI. That person has an eating disorder and is slowly starving themselves to death.

>> No.15438513

Like that other anon, I've been on a diet (and will be again soon) where I'm trying to stay sub 1,000 calories. My actual restriction is under 1,200, but like the image above, I aim for 1k assuming I'm actually fucking up and missing something, or packaging is slightly off. A couple hundred calories can really change progress.

And yes, I understand a long-term lifestyle change is better than doing this, but I'm an alcoholic who can only manage to quit for a few months at a time because booze is part of my career and I don't really want to quit permanently. So I lose weight as fast as I can while on my annual break.

>> No.15438515

>>15435297
Who the hell has time to prepare that many proper meals a day. This is clearly a day off in which case calorie-counting is out the window.

>> No.15438519

>>15438439
>>15438509
Did either of the two of you bother to read he's on a cut, looking to intentionally lose weight? It's not maintenance.

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>>15435385
I know you.

>> No.15438578

>>15435297
What was the butter for?

>> No.15438603

>>15438428
why is it always extremes with you people?

>> No.15438641

>>15438603
Because calling eating a completely normal three meals "excessive" is right out of that particular playbook.

>> No.15438656

>>15435297
>>15435408
Why the fuck would you even cook that breakfast with butter? You have bacon. Use the rendered fat.

>> No.15438803

>>15435318
based
t. carni king :^)

>> No.15438806

>>15438641
they look like restaurant meals

>> No.15438818

>>15438806
I was first going to ask "If you can't cook basic meals like this yourself, what are you doing here", but then I remembered where I was.

>> No.15438826

>>15438818
i meant portion wise
the meals are pretty lame

>> No.15439017

>>15435297
Counting calories is for psychotic idiots. Just do OMAD. Eat whatever you want, but only one meal, in the early evening. Don't eat anything for 24 hours afterwards. Easiest way for a loser with low willpower to keep from gorging into a fat tub or lard.

>> No.15439048

>>15435340
I don't think anyone's crying over it.
Fatties usually say they're counting calories and get their numbers completely wrong, then cry that "they've tried dieting, but it doesn't work!", when in reality they're having the equivalent of 10 extra tbsp's of PB throughout the day, which is almost 1,000 extra calories.

>> No.15439067

>>15435297
I estimate fairly accurately because I used to count them for years. Im not a retard who underestimates the calories in oil or conveniently forgets to count something.
>cooking 2 strips of bacon in 1tbsp butter instead of its own fat
>spoonfuls of pb out of the jar
>2 whole bars of milky sugar treats for dinner
>too sedentary/manlet to not lose weight eating below 2k
Do Americans really? Is this picture satire?

>> No.15439068

everyone accidentally eats an entire extra fucking chocolate bar sometimes!

>> No.15439105

>>15439068
I think you're missing the point of the image. It's not like "oh, I had another full size Snickers alongside a full meal," but more like, "oh, I'll just have a tiny bit more chocolate, it can't be THAT bad." Like >>15439048 is saying. Things add up. Hell, even I was counting calories at one point and assumed raw carrots, cauliflower, broccoli, and cherry tomatoes were basically guilt free. The next thing you know, you've eaten half of your daily calorie allotment. Now scale it up to where you're not fucking up by 50 calories, but 200, and suddenly everything is fucked.

>>15439067
You're being autistic about the specifics.

>> No.15439128

>>15435606
>donuts
>in season
tfw no seasonal donut

>> No.15439131

>>15436316
SLOPPA

>> No.15439158

I tend to gain weight over time unless I'm consciously very active. I hope that I lose a bit in summer and it balances out in winter, but I'm getting older each year and less likely to 'adventure' so it usually means I gain a few pounds a year. I did count calories for a time and I lost tons of weight. It is very useful to put into perspective what a portion or serving actually looks like as otherwise it is easy for things to start inflating and perspectives get screwed up. A tablespoon of mayonnaise is a depressing amount which barely comes off the spoon let alone satisfies a mayonnaise craving. Same with peanut butter or butter in general. What happens is you start eating shit like whole heads of cabbage because a pound and a half of cabbage is equal to a tablespoon of oil. You just stop eating things which are high in calories (and are nice) because otherwise you'll be starving all the time. It really fucking works, but it is very depressing.

I tend to eat what I want now and I tend to gain a few pounds a year. I usually skip breakfast, keep lunch under 300kcal and then do whatever the fuck I want for dinner. Risotto with butter and parmesan, pan fried steak based in garlic and herb butter, three cheese lasagna with oil and lemon dressed red salad, salmon en croute and baked potato with cream cheese and chives, braised pork shoulder with broccoli, mushrooms and cashew nuts, slow cooked curried mutton with ground almonds and double cream. Wine or cocktail aperitif. Red and white wine with dinner. Cocktail or spirit digestif.

>> No.15439206

>>15439067
The image was likely made for women. They're the ones usually following a diet focused on a calorie deficit and aim for very low calorie restrictions. A small woman might have to aim for sub-1500cals a day in order to lose weight.

>> No.15439214
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15439214

Even during periods when I'm not physically active my eating habits just seem to adjust naturally and I stay at normal weight

>> No.15439222

>>15439158
You basically have 3 options.

>eat a little of the yummy stuff
but if the good stuff is really calorie dense you'll either have to settle for small portions or eat enough of the good stuff to make you fat
>eat almost none of the yum stuff except for special occasions as a treat
depressing

or the most sensible option
>eat a little bit of the yum stuff paired with a lot of the low calorie stuff and hope that it gets you full
I think that's the whole point of having your salad before your main meal or a salad as a side dish. Or incorporating veggies in your dishes, like instead of 70% pasta 30% random vegetables, you bump it up to 40% pasta 60% veg. You still get a little bit of the creamy/carby/fatty thing but you fill up so much on a pound of lettuce that you still get to leave the table full and not go to sleep hungry.

Have you given the last option your best shot?

>> No.15439243

>>15439222
Get rid of the pasta and add a source of protein instead

>> No.15439247

>>15436204
Low calorie diets work if you pair them with a lot of low intensity exercise like walking. Even if your metabolism drops, you can still do exercise, it'll just make you feel tired and shitty.

>> No.15439261

>>15439222
I can't fathom how people would rather have like, two slices of pizza instead of a good amount of well seasoned chicken and some greens. It would just drive me crazy to be that empty and hungry for the 30 second dopamine rush.

>> No.15439275

>>15439261
most of them fill up on pizza even if that means eating 4 or more slices. madness.

>> No.15439276
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15439276

>carbsfags have to count calories

>> No.15439278

>>15439276
they also get to count their grandchildrens birthdays

>> No.15439282

>>15435634
>And even with a BMI of 21, I will always consider myself a fat person in mind
I know that feel. Went from 33.5 to 21.5.

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>>15439276
>Carbs bad

>> No.15439296

>>15439284
>>15439278
found the seething fatfags/poorfags/vegans

>> No.15439318

>>15439275
4 slices is a day's food if you're trying to lose weight. If you're mostly at maintenance and you splurge one day? More power to you. As someone who got fat at one point in their life and lost it, pizza's not worth the opportunity cost for a more filling meal.

>> No.15439324

>>15435297
>extra pb
>extra chocolate bar
assuming people actually eat chocolate with their dinners, who just neglects to track this stuff, the sour cream too.

>> No.15439326

>>15437609
An extra 300 cal/day equates to around 2.65lbs less weight loss over a month.
It's significant.

>> No.15439331

>>15439296
>Le strawman cope
Sure buddy, I'm one of those things because there is no other way I can differ with you (;

>> No.15439347
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15439347

>>15435297
I could eat all 6 of those plates in one sitting.

>> No.15439371

I used to count calories like an autistic madman.
I made spreadsheets and documents of everything I would eat.
Then I gave up and didn't give a shit.
Now I plan to do it again to lose this Xmas fat.

>> No.15439393

it sucks that some losers really live like this

>> No.15439399

>>15437609
>Which isn't insignificant but is the least of your worries compared to the food you're frying in it and what you eat through the rest of the day.
That's the entire point of the image numbnuts. It shows how fairly insignificant things can add up to a significant number.

>> No.15439416

>>15439347
is ceramic good for you?

>> No.15439598

>4 eggs for breakfast

>> No.15439805

>>15438519
980 is a very extreme cut.

>> No.15439833

>>15435297
Around 1500 calories a day. I was born with a puny stomach. It's good in some ways, but bad in others.

>> No.15439854

>>15435297
>How much do you typically eat?
yes

>> No.15439872

>>15439598
uh

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>>15435586
It's an optical illusion.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Missing_square_puzzle

>> No.15439903

>>15435297
Am I wrong or is there easily more than 1400 for the food on the left. Maybe like 1800 calories.

>> No.15439955

>>15435297
I roughly track it by eating higher calory foods because I'm underweight. But at the end of the day, I sure as fuck won't know how many calories I've consumed

>> No.15440017

>>15435318
As someone who counts calories whenever I feel like I’ve gained an unacceptable amount of fat, I kind of agree. All the fun out of eating and cooking disappears when you’re measuring every ingredient by weight to accurately log into myfitnesspal

>> No.15440094

>>15439903
There's probably about 1100kcal on the dinner plate alone, so yeah.

>> No.15440297

>>15435562
>naturally

>> No.15440347

>>15435297
I used to and so now I always have a rough sense of how many calories are in something. It's definitely useful. That said, it's better to pay close attention to your body sensations, eat when you're hungry, pay attention while you're eating, chew a lot, etc.

>> No.15440786

>>15435297
My TDEE is 1700. I eat close to that, but I exercise a bit.

>> No.15440792

>>15440094
That steak is tiny as fuck bro, no way that's 1100. Even an excessively large potato isn't going to break 400.

>> No.15440799

>>15435297
the only thing sadder would be to track the number of steps i too in a day https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bBr8pIWd-wY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FG1NrQYXjLU

>> No.15440808
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15440808

>>15435297
I'm on a 500 calorie crash diet for the next 2 months. Most of my calories come from whole milk.

>> No.15440817

>>15439393
Post body

>> No.15442040

>>15435318
fatty

>> No.15442122

only ONE chocobar for dinner!?

>> No.15443038

>>15440297
Yes
I have no appetite

>> No.15443041

>>15443038
Hmm, actually, it's more that I feel no urge to eat when I'm hungry. It's like it's just a mild, easily ignorable inconvenience, even if I'm starving.
/blog

>> No.15443062

>>15435297
Never done this but I feel like doing it like pic related would just make me more anorexic

>> No.15443064

>>15439805
What does that matter? He's doing what works for him. If he eats right and takes vitamins, along with exercise, it's not gonna kill him.

>>15440017
Lots of people need to stop thinking of eating as "fun." I know some are naturally responsible, but those who look at food as fuel are likely better off. I know that's hard to adhere to, I personally could do better with it, but still.

>> No.15443193

>>15435297
I'm probably in the 3k range. I'd lose weight if I paid attention and kept it in the 2k-2500 range.

>> No.15443214

>>15443062
How can you be anorexic without counting calories? Isn't that like Anorexia 101?

>> No.15443292

>>15436461
>>yes
>>too much
who are you quoting

>> No.15443353

>>15443214
If you just don't eat, or eat very little, you don't have to count how much you're not eating.

>> No.15443354

>>15443214
I just don't eat because the thought usually makes me sick and drink water so I don't feel like I'm starving

>> No.15443478

>>15435297
I used to only when I was transitioning from a bulk to a cut or vice versa. And once I didn everyday for a year but wasn't really necessary. You can just watch you weight and body and adjust diet so not really necessary to count once you do that.

>> No.15444256

>>15435297
Reddit cringe

>> No.15445403

>>15435413
A decrease of 200 calories will result in a weight reduction even if it is small, you fattie

>> No.15446189

>>15435311
>>15438503

https://www.waldeneatingdisorders.com/popular-searches/night-eating-syndrome-nes/