/ck/ - Food & Cooking

[Anonymous No.15422414]

Hey all, what foods/drinks help with alcohol cravings? I abuse booze and need to take a 3 month break minimum for a medical test. I've managed to abstain for months at a time but alcohol is always on the forefront of my mind.

I start in 3 weeks, thanks in advance for any help!

[Anonymous No.15422439]

>>15422414
They won't see alcohol in your blood after that long. All you need is a few days off

[Anonymous No.15422459]

>>15422439
Oh, to be clear, it's not about alcohol being in my blood, it's that my mom has an autoimmune disorder that I might have inherited, however a false positive can come up when the liver is particularly strained. To narrow down exactly what is wrong, my doctor needs to isolate whether this is alcohol induced or inherited.

[Anonymous No.15422464]

>>15422459
phenibut perhaps, dunno if that's good for the liver though, and its even more addictive than alcohol. Never use it more than 3 days per week

[Anonymous No.15422470]

>>15422459
Oh I see. I don't really know to be honest. Maybe weed could be a good substitute that won't affect the liver? Of course physical activity would be the best, but I know that's not gonna happen

[Anonymous No.15422474]

If you are craving for something like red wine - try some bitter berry (e.g. aronia, cranberry, blueberry) or cherry juice. Or get an strong coffee. You also can try some herb tea, like fennel, licorice, anise, lavender, sage or camomille (these herbs are also very nice mixed together).
Good luck!

[Anonymous No.15422478]

>>15422459
liverwurst sandwiches to help liver

[Anonymous No.15422489]

>>15422464
Yeah, I'm not looking to replace one addiction with another, I just looked at that stuff, and I bet it would be something I enjoyed a little too much.

>>15422470
Weed really just kinda knocks me the fuck out and prevents me from being productive. Not that I won't have it sometimes.

>>15422474
Thanks for these, I'll consider them.

[Anonymous No.15422510]

>>15422439
They have new tests that work up to a week

[Anonymous No.15422518]

>>15422414
i was once prescribed wellbutrin to help with alcohol cravings. it did nothing for me but maybe something for you

[Anonymous No.15422534]

>>15422518
I've been prescribed naltrexone but it made me really sick the first time I had it. I sure as fuck didn't want to drink, but that's because I felt like I was going to die. I might try it after a week off of booze and see if it helps, but I'm still hoping for some more natural methods.

[Anonymous No.15422547]

>>15422414
Just eat a big meal around 7pm. If ever I feel like drinking the feeling goes after eating anything.

[Anonymous No.15422559]

>>15422478
This. Liverwurst sandwich on seeded rye, with kewpie mayo, coarse mustard, zucchini pickles, and maybe some baby spinach (could be left out).

The only issue you'll find is that once you stop drinking a lot of vodka, it's no longer cleans your system or even your teeth. You might have to start brushing again, if you haven't in years.

[Anonymous No.15422560]

>>15422414
Gotta find something else to occupy yourself. Exercise is a good one

[Anonymous No.15422569]

>>15422518
Not OP, but I've personally found that welbutrin/bupropion makes me feel like shit when I drink, and I imagine that's part of the action. Of course, I'm so far gone that I expect to feel like shit and it really doesn't dissuade me much any more.

[Anonymous No.15422581]

>>15422518
They’re just going off the placebo effect but making money off of you by using a real prescription drug that can fuck your dick up instead of sugar pills.
Might as well use a tic tac and believe it will kill your alcohol cravings. It will be just as effective.

[Anonymous No.15422592]

>>15422581
not if you already realise it's going to be placebo

[Anonymous No.15422609]

>>15422547
That's more or less my plan, but that still leaves like 11 hours in the day to be thinking about booze.

>>15422560
Not saying I won't exercise, but I hate exercise. It's something I put myself through for a result, not something that brings any kind of joy.

[Anonymous No.15422612]

Cola and other sodas, sweet food and drinks in general can be nice, some of you fat fucks will eat sweets when you're drunk but that always makes me feel like shit physically so I appreciate them more when I'm not drinking. Candy like jolly ranchers or similar are good because one lasts a while. Coffee is good too, I had to sit through this boring as FUCK presentation for work the other day and it was getting to the point of actually making me depressed and on a break I had a coffee and it made it more tolerable, more than just waking you up coffee has been shown to help with depression.

Besides just food, do things that being drunk makes you worse at. Play some difficult or competitve FPS or spaceshooter game, read something complicated, excercise maybe

[Anonymous No.15422622]

>>15422414
Lots of people talk about having quit with Kratom.
Just be careful with it, it's unregulated and can carry salmonella.

[Anonymous No.15422628]

>>15422612
>read something complicated

This is actually a good tip, OP. I never drink when i'm trying to read a novel in a foreign novel because i'll forget all the progress i've been making in the book if i do.

[Anonymous No.15422635]

>>15422559
Kek

[Anonymous No.15422649]

>>15422581
Bupropion's notable for having no common sexual side-effects nor does it cause weight gain like other similar medications. It's well-documented in anti-addiction treatment, though not commonly recommended for alcohol addiction due to how it's metabolised by the liver and potential serious side effects from the interaction.

Not to say medication should be used as a first line treatment in addiction in the first place, but it's not to be disregarded.

[Anonymous No.15422679]

>>15422622
Kratom is ridiculously addictive lol, the way cigarettes are more than the way heroin is, because it's pretty mild and can be bought easily so I've seen people have a really hard time shaking it. It is pretty nice and not harmful afaik but if OP is asking fucking /ck/ what he can do to not drink idk if it's the best option lol

[Anonymous No.15422680]

>>15422628
a novel in a foreign language*

[Anonymous No.15422694]

Have you tried non-alcoholic beer?

[Anonymous No.15422708]

>>15422559
Based

[Anonymous No.15422728]

>>15422694
I've had it before, but it's pretty costly and pointless, in a sense. Maybe if I got invited to something where lots of people were drinking. But when I take a break, I normally have to quit going anywhere that has alcohol, which is pretty much everywhere these days.

[Anonymous No.15422773]

Take this prescription to your township dispensary:

Cocaine and Oranges - take as needed, morning through afternoon
Opium and Milk - once daily, before bed
Therapeutic duration: 3mos

>t. Time-traveling doctor from 1899

[Anonymous No.15422783]

>>15422534
>I've been prescribed naltrexone but it made me really sick the first time I had it.
I thought that's what it was supposed to do

[Anonymous No.15422787]

>>15422414
Non alcoholic beer and seltzer has always worked for me. Currently doing dry january as I was puking blood last month. Also eat candy for some dopamine.

[Anonymous No.15422817]

>>15422783
Nah, you're thinking of Antabuse. Naltrexone is specifically for cravings and cutting out the relationship between alcohol and pleasure receptors in the brain.

[Anonymous No.15422818]

>>15422622
I use kratom, but don't see how it would help. You can get a euphoria effect from it sure, but it's not the same from alcohol. Besides, that's still just replacing one thing with another.

[Anonymous No.15422830]

>>15422818
kratom is nice to relax and listen to some music, or take your mind of some physical pain you have (in my opinion), but indeed it's not even close to a replacement for booze, the effects are too different and it's also addictive.

[Anonymous No.15422841]

does your mom have aids? oh no

[Anonymous No.15422885]

>>15422817
That is what I was thinking of, you're right. Good luck regardless.
>>15422818
the one time of my life (thus far) that I kicked a daily habit, a small quantity of kratom actually was how I broke the routine. It doesn't mix well with booze and seems to, I don't know how to put it.... Like how scratching an itch feels good but scratching anyway with no itch doesn't feel like anything.

That said, for OP's purposes, it is supposed to effect the liver. I don't know a whole lot and it doesn't seem there's that much hard data on the stuff in the first place. I just know that a lot is bad for the liver and that kratom+booze is capitalBcapitalN Bad News for the liver at that.
But it could be worth considering picking up an ounce from a headshop, just to help with the first day or two. Playing with fire though, I'd guess.

[Anonymous No.15422915]

>>15422841
No, she has lupus. I got a blood test in October and my ANA came back speckled, which is a sign of like 9 potential things.

>>15422885
Thanks anon. I've tried kratom before. It might be something I have on hand if I'm having a really bad particular day, but I shouldn't abuse it like I do booze, where I'm a daily drinker.

[Anonymous No.15422922]

>>15422414
have some grappa my friend. it's a good substitute for alcohol.

[Anonymous No.15422936]

>I'm gonna stop for three months!
>I'm gonna start in three weeks
NGMI degenerate

[Anonymous No.15422974]

>>15422936
There's no way I'm getting through the NFC/AFC Championship and the Super Bowl without drinking and sharing some time with my dad/some friends. It's all about setting realistic goals and timelines. Three weeks won't be the difference whether I live or die.

[Anonymous No.15422980]

>>15422974
dont listen to faggots like that. Just stay realistic and try to solve your problems in your own time and way.

[Anonymous No.15422983]

>>15422915
>lupus
HUNGRY LIKE THE WOOLLF

[Anonymous No.15422992]

>>15422974
>>15422980
GMI

[Anonymous No.15423009]

>>15422414
Now that I think about it, you could switch to kava. Though do the research on that one. It has its own share of warning labels. The big thing is you really don't want to mix alcohol and kava together. You will want to be at least 24 hours sober before you use kava. Supposedly kava has a "reverse tolerance", so you eventually need less kava to get the euphoric effect. Some swear it's much safer however. Though I don't know how it will interfere with your tests.

>>15422830
As an alcoholic I don't find kratom too addictive, but I think it just depends on the body. One body might be more addictive to depressants like alcohol. Another might be more addictive to opioids.

>>15422885
Alcohol and kratom never made me feel any different. Heard alcohol would enhance kratom but it didn't seem to do anything, bad or good, for me. In regards to the liver anything you need your liver for to break substances is a risk when combine with alcohol or other substances that need heavy use of your livers enzymes.

[Anonymous No.15423033]

>>15422974
You could at least start cutting back now. How much do you drink? Is it daily? Could start cutting the total number of drinks back to help ease yourself out of it. Which you would want to do anyways if you're a heavy drinker. Maybe get to a point where it's an only weekend thing, or special occasions like the Super Bowl. Then pray you don't relapse.

[Anonymous No.15423038]

>>15422922
That's basically like saying vodka is an alcohol substitute...

[Anonymous No.15423048]

>>15423033
shut up

[Anonymous No.15423055]

>>15423033
Yes, it's daily. And it's very hard for me to cut back. Once I have a few, my inhibitions go out the window and I say "fuck it." Not to mention, setting aside special occasions means I'll just start making excuses for everything to be a special occasion.

I'm also unemployed right now, with no one to hold me accountable, so keeping it to the weekends would just be arbitrary. But, I know I can set goals and stick to them when it comes to 100% abstinence and not having alcohol in the house.

[Anonymous No.15423115]

>>15423055
>a few, my inhibitions go out the window
>I'll start making excuses
I know these feels. Sometimes anything could be a "special occasion". The dumbest shit would suddenly be a good reason to drink.

>neet
And this feel. Had a very alcoholic summer last year. I don't want to think about the money I spent weekly. Past month too. It is a bit easier to cut back once you got responsibilities, but sometimes that doesn't even stop me.

[Anonymous No.15423122]

>>15422414
Not sure if it will stop the cravings, but valerian root is essentially natural Valium. It will help the withdrawals, but then you have to taper off of it too.

[Anonymous No.15423124]

>>15422464
phenibut dependency sounds fucking awful

[Anonymous No.15423150]

>>15423115
the common phrase is that "One drink makes you drunk", which comes from the literal truth that, regardless of tolerance or how much it takes for you to feel "the kick", drunk or not, your first drink has objectively altered your judgment. It's why sober nerves of steel go limp so, so fast, once you've made the decision to start.

[Anonymous No.15423176]

As a alcoholic myself the best I have is absolutely massive intake of green tea literally constantly, and to keep busy.

By keeping busy I mean literally come home, no not go on the internet, do not waste time, clean something, walk around, have a shower, do some weights, etc etc etc.

One after the other. If I stop doing things and chill I will start drinking.

I must keep up unending tasks to not destroy body further.

[Anonymous No.15423283]

>>15423038
it is my friend, nastrovye!

[Anonymous No.15423287]

Apparently ketamine treatment is effective for alcohol abuse, especially if it's associated with habits/rituals.

[Anonymous No.15423289]

>>15423124
yeah it is, you'll have tremors and wont sleep for nearly a week
t. been there done that

[Anonymous No.15423299]

for me, I go with tea or apple cider

[Anonymous No.15423469]

>throw it all out
>don't buy any
>sit it out

[Anonymous No.15423526]

>>15423469
the way

[Anonymous No.15423564]

>>15422773
>Orange: slowly sucked, a substitute for alcohol.
Thanks, Doc.

[Anonymous No.15423612]

>>15422414
If you really can't stop you could always go for a vivitrol injection, apparently they use it for alcohol. as opposed with opiates, what i took it for, so I don't know how effective it really is for that.

[Anonymous No.15423805]

>>15422414
Water.